I consider 800x480 for the middle end a poor resolution, at least given the big devices we've seen (none below 4'') and in the face of similarly priced Android devices which support qHD and even old flagship devices with 720p (Galaxy Nexus comes to mind). Therefore, I'd like to know what the perspective is in the medium term, 6 months or so.
It could happen but not in the next 6 months I think. MS specifically announced WP8 with three resolutions and I can't see that changing without a major OS update (at least something like the scale of mango). I think such an update is still a year or so away going by the update schedule of WP7.
The need for a middle ground resolution may come next fall when the new round of flagship devices get announced with a major overhaul in hardware and maybe one or two higher resolutions than 1280x768.
By then it could also happen that they phase out wvga in favor for qHD. I think it would make sense to phase out wvga since I have the feeling that 16:9 could become more of a standard in high end windows phones than 15:9 since both Samsung and HTC are using 16:9 in their flagship phones. Though the current major WP8 player (Nokia) is using 15:9. But all that is just random speculation from my side that could be comepletely wrong.
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Maybe its an asinine question. All I know is that my N1 was next to an Iphone 4 today, and the icons and lines on my phone was rough and jagged whilst the ****ty I4 had simple straight lines. The icons, the homescreen lines, the browser text, every single thing on that evil device was a crisp I have only dreamed of. I then set a Samsung Captivate next to the I4 and the SGS was no better, the pixels are so terribly visible on Android, and virtually nonexistant on the I4. The SGS really didnt seem any better than my Nexus, maybe because even though its "SAMOLED" (which means absolutely not a single thing after setting next to an actual high res display) its larger so that sort of evens it out. The iphone has higher resolution, but is there any software update that can make my phone near that same invisible pixel display as the I4 or will i need to wait for Android to put out a high res display to get that smooth, crisp, vibrant pixel density? I havent even heard an rumors of good displays coming to android so i sure hope some software magic can help out.
1) No, SW won't help you any.
2) Good old LCD has better quality (call it "actual resolution") than PenTile AMOLED, that's the reason. Resolution in specs has nothing to do with it. From any distance beyond 5 cm you won't tell the pixel density difference between 800x480 and 960x640 SLCDs.
So, I guess you'll either have to settle for SLCD device, or wait until there's non-PenTile AMOLED screen available.
P.S. It has been discussed in General section.
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Just came through the petition raised by famous GSMArena.com for designing the Smaller devices (Around 4-4.3" Inch) with same powerful feature as their High End Devices. If you guys feels to support, Below is the link to sign it.
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Over the last few years, Android has taken the smartphone world by storm, climbing to the top spot in just about every major market out there. The Google platform offers a mix of features that can't be matched by any of its competitors and is offered on hardware so diverse that it has covered almost every conceivable market segment.
However, with recent trends in flagship droids, we feel there's a substantial group of users that is being ignored. As Android top dogs all choose huge screens for their high-end offerings, those looking to experience the most capable hardware in a mid-sized smartphones are left out in the dry. Despite the large number of companies committed to the Android cause, there's not a single manufacturer to come up with a handset to match the raw power and display brilliance of the Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One or Sony Xperia Z in a shell that's as easy to pocket as, say, the Apple iPhone 5.
Now, that's not to say that Apple's approach is better than those of its Android counterparts or that large smartphones are in any way bad. The market performance of all those flagships speaks loud enough and there are a number of reasons why super capable hardware makes more sense on larger displays.
However, we firmly believe there is a huge number of people who would gladly trade screen estate for portability as long as that doesn't involve further compromises. As things currently stand, replacing your large Android flagship with a mid-size phone will mean you have to live with a chipset of less than half the processing power and a display with quality and density way below the high-end standard.
Here are what we believe will be the most important boxes that such a device needs to check.
Footprint and profile similar to Motorola RAZR i or Apple iPhone 5
A 4.2" display of at least 720p resolution (1080p would be an overkill on this size)
Top-of-the line chipset (Snapdragon 600, Exynos 5 Octa, Tegra 4)
Adequate camera
That's definitely not too much to ask as using current technology it's perfectly possible to create such a smartphone. We are certain that a large part of the reason why manufacturers haven't invested enough effort in the development of such smartphones is the false assumption that there's not enough demand for it.
That's why we've started an online petition, which we hope will help convince large Android OEMs to pay proper attention to the mid-size market segment. If you share our dream of seeing a properly powered mid-size Android smartphone with all the bangs and whistles of the aforementioned flagships, you can help our cause by following this link and signing our online petition.
If it gains traction, we'll make sure to share it with all our manufacturer contacts and draw as much attention to it as possible. Not even the best performing companies out there can afford to ignore requests singed by thousands of people, so you if you feel as strongly about this issue as we do, we urge you to make your voice heard!
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By: Robert Triggs, March 31 2014 - 9:05AM EDT
Samsung and LG are on the cutting edge of what could become a popular future trend – curved and flexible display smartphones.*The two companies have already released their first generation curved displays, the LG G Flex and the Samsung Galaxy Round. We conducted our own comparison between the two curved handsets at the end of last year. But where is the future of flexible displays heading?
According to industry insiders, who recently spoke with ETNews, LG Display will be focusing on reducing the size of its flexible displays and improving various display aspects, such as resolution, this year. On the other hand, Samsung Display is said to be developing a variety of forms of flexible AMOLED, with the aim of making the design the game changer.
Looking at LG specifically, the company’s flexible display technology is currently suffering from poorer specifications that Samsung’s equivalent. Desipite the larger display size, the LG G Flex could only muster*a 720p resolution and a pixel density of 245 ppi. Samsung’s Galaxy Round, on the other hand, managed a 1080p resolution, resulting in a pixel density of 386 ppi.
LG AND SAMSUNG ARE EXPECTED TO UNVEIL NEW CURVED SMARTPHONE DESIGNS LATER THIS YEAR.
This year, LG is planning to reduce the size of its flexible display down to 5.5 inches, whilst upping the resolution to FullHD (1080p). LG is also reportedly working to improve heating issues with its OLED design.
“Our goal is to enhance product performance a notch or higher across the board.”*LG insider
An interesting point to note is that Samsung’s AMOLED display found in the Galaxy Round isn’t actually “flexible” in the same sense as LG’s, which might explain why Samsung’s technology retains familiar specifications. As a result, Samsung’s future plans are quite different. Samsung is said to be experimenting with various curved designs, in both the horizontal and vertical planes, as well as designs involving*curved edges.
Whilst LG focuses on improving its existing flexible display technology, Samsung is testing out a wider range of designs and uses.
According to industry insiders, Samsung Display has decided to develop a product incorporating various types of curvature, which should be making its way into a future smartphone. Samsung believes that it will be the design that will determine the success or failure of its flexible AMOLED technology.
Both LG and Samsung are expected to unveil new curved smartphone designs later this year.
But hold on, we’re not close to this being a widespread technology, not yet at least. According to research firm IHS, LG Display and Samsung Display’s flexible AMOLED production capacity reached 20,000 sheets per month last year, from various production lines and display sizes. There’s no chance that current production yields could keep-up if the technology was to be used in a flagship smartphone. Low yields, high prices, and other component development costs are still limiting the production of units and availability for use in products.
“For the time being, flexible displays will not be found on smartphones very often.”*Kang Min-soo, IHS Researcher
The other half of the issue is whether or not consumers really care about curved displays. Despite being able to output around 240,000 sheets per year, Samsung and LG have only managed combined sales of less than 100,000 curved displays so far. This figure includes a range of technologies, including TVs. Perhaps new smartphones or wearables could help boost these sales figures, but for the time being flexible and curved displays will probably remain a niche.
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I really hope they don't reduce the screen size of the next flex. That's one of the things I like about the g flex is the big 6inch screen.
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I think 5.5in might be perfect. I'm thinking battery life probably won't be as good with 1080p. So people will complain about that. lol
Go down to 5.5? That bites
I am a bit confused whether to go ahead and buy a Nexus 6, given the fact that I am die hard fan of Nexus line up or to go back to other phones which I don't prefer doing. Although, I hear the camera sensor and the optics have improved from the older gen Nexus devices the performance based on review are still not on par with the top notch iPhone and Note 4 cameras.
Comparing the Nexus' usage of the new camera sensor compared to the old and smaller sensors in iPhones - the analysis from review and my reference across many websites only indicates that the end result is mainly the product of post processing software. I am not sure whether I am correct in saying so. The same applies for Xperia line up as well, inspite of Sony producing the latest sensors and bigger sensors in their devices iPhone continues to better those.
Therefore I am assuming Nexus 6 is having all the capacity to produce great low light and quality images additionally with the latest Camera APIs present in Lollipop - can we improve the shots by using a third party software? Will this work? If so please name a few good ones that can beat or on par with iPhones or Note 4?
The response will decide whether I will continue to be a Nexus loyalist or going back to the rumored Galaxy S6 that might come with a light packaging in terms of OEM softwares keeping the Android as pure as possible to enable faster updates in the future.
Thanks for all your responses in advance.
Hi, I'm using Camera FV-5 and I'm getting great results! It has also RAW capability and plenty of settings. I'm sure, that photos from N6 using this app are comparable to photos from iP6+ or Note4
Check these links bellow to make your own decision:
youtube.com/watch?v=tdLgf9DmALY&feature=youtu.be
phonearena.com/news/Nexus-6-beats-the-iPhone-6-Plus-by-a-mile-in-our-blind-camera-comparison_id64437
camerafv5.com/pages/nexus6-raw-samples.php
(i wanted to include these links as urls, but because I'm new here I can't do it)
IMHO it's just about user how good or bad results can be. Of course, you can do bad photos with every phone.
I honestly get great photos from my nexus 6. There is a whole thread in general where we show our pictures. Check it out.
I have personally used the iphone 6 (my fiancee owns an iphone 6) along with the sony xperia phones. I currently own a nexus 6 and I have to say when it comes to taking pictures or recording video, the sony xperia is the winner, but the nexus 6 is a close second. I was very surprised at the iphones picture capability but still does not keep up with the nexus 6 or the sony. You have to remember sony controls about 90% of the movie production cameras along with the leader is 4k technology (in the USA) they have an enormous budget for video recording equipment and lens equipment hence that is their largest area of business. My background is through BestBuy. I worked in the home theater department (TV's and video gaming) for a while now and recently moved to geek squad. Through my experience with using all these devices, I still have to say the nexus 6 is a better phone as a whole. They each have their pros and cons but overall I am very satisfied with my nexus and wouldn't trade it in for a sony xperia. I am also a huge Sony fan because of their television panels (I own a sony 4k TV) but the nexus took the cake for me because of the more up to date processor components and overall processor speeds along with other small details about the device that i admire. even the Sony representative at my store will admit the nexus is a better phone.
I hope my opinion of the devices are helpful.
Thanks for the input
Hi all three, very useful opinions and convinces me. Not sure why these reviewers are always boasting about iPhone cameras while they use some of the old Sony sensors. Not sure when they plan to stop singing this praise.
Having said that, I hope apps like Camera L and Camera FV5 would improve the camera on an Xperia Z3 as well as I also love that phone for it's water resistance and underwater capabilities.
I would be interested to see a sample from FV5 and an iPhone side by side. But after reading all the inputs here, I am bit relieved from my dilemma between Note 4 or Nexus 6. Now I just need to wait for Galaxy S6 launch and their plans on March 1st and see whether Mi Note Pro is launching by then and finally decide.
My other option I had was for a Lumia 930, although not pretty sure what I would be losing in terms of other functions when I move into Windows OS. I have heard that on iOS you are limited in terms of sharing anything to anything while in Android it is more flexible. Not sure how Windows OS behaves. Definitely shortage of apps persists.
I have always stayed away from windows based phones and even computers. I use Linux and I love android. Through many debates with colleagues and friends the one thing we all agree on is iOS is more of a basic user friendly system but with many limitations and android is a much more customizable platform where you have many more capabilities to do practically anything you want. I have heard that windows based OS is first of all, a huge installation and runs slow unless you have a basic computer for a phone. Windows based devices tend to crash too. I feel they are limited as well in their overall capabilities. So if you like having full control over your devices and like customized themes then android is the way to go. If you like simple then iOS. Remember there are no 2 alike android devices but everyone who has an iPhone has the same basic layout except maybe a wallpaper.
It took longer than I thought it would considering its Samsung but I read an article announcing their working on a second generation of the tab s. There wasn't much info nor were there any specs so I didn't post the link. Hopefully this one will fix all the minor issues. Considering what the original was this new one should be the top dog for awhile. Has anyone heard any other info?
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Yes. Article in Android Authority. 9.x" and 8.0" Tab S2
They're gonna be 4:3 ratio which sucks for media.
Sigh, please be a rumor with this 4:3 crap! What are we reverting to a simpler time?
Grrrrrrrr!
4:3 is very good for everything else besides watching movies, but I guess if you use your tablet for watching movies mostly then yeah it's going to suck.
What I want is better speakers (probably not gonna happen) and I want less air gap between the glass and screen to make the screen look even better.
Better speakers would definitely be nice but I'm not sure how good they'd be in a slim casing. New tab will most likely get the toned down tw. I couldn't wait to root and get rid of tw, its the #1 that keeps me away from Samsung phones. I love the note 4...
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Im pretty sure its going to have the new exynos chip. Like the ones made in korea that had a tad newer chip then the ones we have now. And probably a fix on the overheating issue.
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Im pretty sure its going to have the new exynos chip. Like the ones made in korea that had a tad newer chip then the ones we have now. And probably a fix on the overheating issue.
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+1 on the over heat issues, been having it all day(playing hearthstone)
I'm very happy with my 10.5 and looking forward to 5.0.1. It helped reduce lag on my note 4 considerably - its virtually non existent now, and the battery life is better so I can't wait to receive it on my current tab s - hoping it will kill the lag. I don't think I'll upgrade this time round to be honest. It all works well (side sync and throw to my samsung UHD TV works a treat).
Ok, perhaps it would be a change of pace having a smaller screen but.... I really hope they offer this tablet in 32 or 64gb (128, yeah right) this time and kill 16gb once and for all.
No tablet should have 16gb in 2015. I paid extra to buy the 32gb 10.5S just on principle.
Here are some leaked specs....rumored.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/02/19...y-tab-s-2-8-inch-and-9-7-inch-specifications/
I think 4:3 would be an improvement. As some others have said, 16:10 is good for movies. For everything else 4:3 is better.
I think I'd actually prefer 3:2, but either that or 4:3 would make me upgrade from my Tab Pro 10.1. I can't really get used to 16:10, it only feels right when watching movies.
I felt the same way. I would absolutely positively never use a device with 4:3 aspect ratio.
Then I got a nexus 9. Figured I would hate it. But I found that movies were actually fine on it. It is more a psychological thing about unused screen space I think, because I found it no more distracting than 2.35:1 aspect ratio on 16:9.
But what made me really love it was having books, magazines, textbooks and comic books fill the screen completely. Very comfortable if one does a lot of reading.
And the strangest thing: I found myself surfing the web in portrait! Caught myself one day... though...whoa...when did I start doing that? Didn't even think about it. Its strange but 4:3 makes a web page feel like you are reading a book.
As a disclaimer, before someone gets on my case for daring to mention the nexus 9 on a Tab S forum: I own a Tab S 8.4 and a Tab S 10.5 so I do have a basis for comparison.
And for what its worth, I still watch most movies on the Tab S because the Amoled screen is unparalleled for movie watching.
A new 4:3 Tab S with Amoled I think I would be a remarkably versatile tablet and in retrospect I think I would be fine with the idea.
I disagree. Tablets are more for media consumption than anything else and 16:9 is the standard so anything closer to that would be better for me. I owned ipads and would upgrade every year up until the ipad air with I owned for a week and returned it. The black bars watching movies made the 9.7" screen feel a little bigger than my note 3! Switched to a note 10.1 2014 and it was so much more immersive because the video occupied more of the screen. On flights all the ipad people I sit beside usually ask about my tablet and the fact that the video looks so much bigger on my device than theirs, so I'm hoping the new device will be 16:10 and include an SPen, as it is so much more useful on a tablet than on a note device.
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But what made me really love it was having books, magazines, textbooks and comic books fill the screen completely. Very comfortable if one does a lot of reading.
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Regarding comics, the resolution used by Comixology digital comics is 1988 x 3056 which is quite a bit closer to 16:10 than 4:3.
The thing with movies is depends on the software you can just zoom in and fill up the screen. Sure you are not getting the whole movie frame and not seeing the movie as the director intended, but nobody intended you to watch their movies on a little phone or tablet either [emoji20]
on the other hand, with non movies stuff things feel more proportional on a 4:3 screen. If you're browsing the web, in landscape you have wide space horizontally that may be unused and at the same time you see less of a page vertically and have to scroll down more to read. In portrait it's too narrow and text maybe too small.
With apps like Gmail or tapatalk where you have a split pane in landscape mode, again it is too wide horizontally so the space is a bit wasted but too short vertically so you see fewer messages. In portrait mode, split pane is just too narrow and awkward so they end up using a pull out drawer design instead. Thus you have basically turned your tablet into a giant phone. Take the on screen keyboard. On the 4:3 screen, it has roughly square keys like a real keyboard, as opposed to rectangular keys like the infamous chiclet keyboard on the IBM junior. (In dating myself lol)
When I moved from iPad to android tablet first thing I noticed was most apps are just phone apps on a big screen and not really taking advantage of a large screen. I think 16:10 has something to do with it. If you look at lollipop, Google didn't even bother to do anything different on tablet. The settings app for example doesn't even fill up the screen.
Of course a great deal depends on your use mix, but I think some people just reflexively hate 4:3 because Apple uses it and they haven't had much experience with it.
I'm going yikes at the choice of the 5433. My feeling was always that we got shortchanged in getting a 5420 after SGS5 released with a newer version. I can see myself passing to wait for a Snapdragon 810/Exynos 7420 processor so that my tablet is not outclassed by my phone.
As to the 4:3 vs 16:9, I'll try anything once. Sadly, post Nexus 9, I can see a world where 16:9 tablets cease to exist (apple has a majority of the tablet market in the 4:3 factor so other than Google's insistance, as a competitor, that's the way the world will work.
I got a Dell Venue 7840 (because I will try anything once). I can feel the speed bump. It doesn't impress me otherwise relative to the Tab S (screen is same to slightly worse, dimensions are within 10% on thickness and 2% of length/width and it weighs more. Post having that and playing at the store with a Nexus 9, I feel like samsung could take the tab s, do nothing but replace the processor and have a 2015 flagship.
My concern is that the rumor mill says the battery will be only 3800mah. My T705 has 4600. Battery efficiencies are always improving, so Samsung should be striving for as big a battery as possible, not just rely on newer chips and a lower resolution screen to save power. Better, bigger batteries are super important for all mobile devices. Just getting by is a mistake. Do you get that Samsung?
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Here are some leaked specs....rumored.
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I sure am hoping the Tab S 2 leaked specs are indeed just made up for clickbait! The screen - the one outstanding feature of the original Tab S and the main reason people (inc. me) bought it - sounds like it will be far worse. It will be shrunk, have a worse resolution and a 100% media-hostile 4:3 aspect ratio.
Having used my Tab S (with CyanogenMod of course) for a while now, I'm convinced that the quality of the screen is the most important aspect of a tablet (far more so than CPU/GPU/RAM specs) and if Samsung make the screen worse like the leaks claim, then they're not onto a winner in my books.
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I sure am hoping the Tab S 2 leaked specs are indeed just made up for clickbait! The screen - the one outstanding feature of the original Tab S and the main reason people (inc. me) bought it - sounds like it will be far worse. It will be shrunk, have a worse resolution and a 100% media-hostile 4:3 aspect ratio.
Having used my Tab S (with CyanogenMod of course) for a while now, I'm convinced that the quality of the screen is the most important aspect of a tablet (far more so than CPU/GPU/RAM specs) and if Samsung make the screen worse like the leaks claim, then they're not onto a winner in my books.
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I've learned not to pay leaks any mind especially when it comes to samsung. They've hurt a lot of feelings over the years with expectations. They know they hit a hr with the tab s display it would be a shame and a death sentence to lose a products main feature.
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