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A lot of progress is being made as android OS has now been ported to iphone 2g and 3g. Wondering if we could do the reverse on the Nexus? Now before I get flamed or whatever, its not that I want an Iphone or think its better, just like the choice is all....
http://gizmodo.com/5533312/iphone-3g-shown-running-android
iphone os isn't open source. and, a nexus one user, why the hell would want to install iphone os ?!?
call me selfish lol never used an iphone but thought it would be cool...smh ok was a thought, back to drolling over my nexus....
Wrong section, and the last comment is correct that iPhone OS isnt' open source so we'll never see it openly available. You should learn C++ and port it for us!
I agree
One of the things, the world doesn't need: an iphone os port for nexus one xD
applications
I think the best and only reason to have the iphone OS is to have so many different applications.
I wonder if there is a way to somehow boot up iphone applications on an android phone using some sort of compatibility mode? That would be ideal and give us the best of both worlds, a crazy amount of apps and android.
the prediction is 75,000-100,000 android apps by 2010. how many more apps do you need?
This iPhone isn't completely closed source. The kernel is open, and that's likely where most of the porting work would need to go anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)
go ahead and dream, dont come crying to me when apple Legal dept rips off your head and funnels in feces from Jobs himself when you actually do port it
N31N said:
go ahead and dream, dont come crying to me when apple Legal dept rips off your head and funnels in feces from Jobs himself when you actually do port it
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Why would the OP come to you and cry? are you a lawyer?
porting another operating system to a machine that you personally own will not get you into trouble.
You can limit yourself upto only provide instructions on how to do this, and not by distributing the actual image in public, you will not get in trouble for it.
I am no lawyer but a paralegal in IP.
I would agree that this is infact a good project, and/or i would even dream of porting Winmo to have a triple boot in our (What google states as the Developers phone = Nexus one).
Don't get me wrong, Android is Awesome, but having more options is always better!
It is like a PC compared to a Playstation
In Playstation, you are limited to playing PS games.
In a PC, besides the PC games, you can also play different kind of PS, Gamecube, PS2, etc. emulators.
iphone apps
I guess the amount of iphone apps does not really apply to my desire to have a compatibility mode to run them. Just the types of apps. I'm a medical student and as the iphone has much more support on this front, I think it would be quite beneficial be able to run the apps that aren't ported over to android. I hope that things will change however and more medical applications will be made for android soon. It's just a matter of time really...
I don't want the entire iPhone OS because its stupid.. if someone could reveal their scrolling physics, it would be great....
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Why would the OP come to you and cry? are you a lawyer?
porting another operating system to a machine that you personally own will not get you into trouble.
You can limit yourself upto only provide instructions on how to do this, and not by distributing the actual image in public, you will not get in trouble for it.
I am no lawyer but a paralegal in IP.
I would agree that this is infact a good project, and/or i would even dream of porting Winmo to have a triple boot in our (What google states as the Developers phone = Nexus one).
Don't get me wrong, Android is Awesome, but having more options is always better!
It is like a PC compared to a Playstation
In Playstation, you are limited to playing PS games.
In a PC, besides the PC games, you can also play different kind of PS, Gamecube, PS2, etc. emulators.
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Apples licensing agreements for their software stipulates that they only be run on specific hardware.
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Apples licensing agreements for their software stipulates that they only be run on specific hardware.
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Better yet, by law "Illegal Distributing of such" will be prosecuted and punishable by law.
as such, licensing agreement does not constitute unless it is being publicly distributed.
Although, realistically this port will never happen and if it will, i am not convinced that it will be very soon.
how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
Doing so will be a giant backward step.
how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
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how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
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I totally agree.. I mean android market is getting bigger each day and getting more popular as verizon's advertisements for the android keeps getting better.
but, to be able to run iphone apps to our beloved nexus one will be a big achievement as there are still lots of iphone apps that i wish to be developed for Android as well, like my favorite Dakeno!
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Just because the Android Market is growing, that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is exactly getting better. Apple is still beating us in the game department, and due to their sponsors - they have apps that are like... important? Or, well, more useful to some..
I don't know if Android will ever reach that polished level the iPhone has, regarding to apps that is. I don't even play games really on my phone, if they looked up to par.. then maybe. Android is progressing, though.
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Just because the Android Market is growing, that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is exactly getting better. Apple is still beating us in the game department, and due to their sponsors - they have apps that are like... important? Or, well, more useful to some..
I don't know if Android will ever reach that polished level the iPhone has, regarding to apps that is. I don't even play games really on my phone, if they looked up to par.. then maybe. Android is progressing, though.
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Your comparing an OS that is in its Third/Fourth Iteration to one that is in its Second. To say that iPhone OS 2.0 was fluid and completely polished would be a huge lie. Back then, it did not have the ridiculous catalog of apps that it does now, nor was it as fast as it is now. In time, when Android reaches 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, ect, you will see Android reach a level of polish that the iPhone OS has. Right now, Android is seeing a huge increase in market-share. With this will come developers. With developers, more quality apps will come. Android has the momentum to do it. I would believe that Android will become polished by the end of the year, possibly early next year based off of its growth and progression.
i was browsing the web and i found an interesting video showing the htc magic running ios 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY-uRRCARJw
i was thinking that our sgs has almost the same spec as the iphone 4(processor, amount of rom and ram), it would be possible to dump ios 4 on it ! that would definetly decrease the sell of iphone 4 ! with the 4 inch SA screen ios apps and games would rock on the sgs !
i also believe that the sgs has the most powerful HW , here is the GL benchmark results showing sgs on top of other phones followed by the iphone
http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp
The biggest problem would be the resolution. The iphone 4 resolution is 960x640 and our SGS is only 800x400.
So porting iOS 4 to a SGS, sounds very dificult.
Looks fake but a very good (not nice) theme.
why would I want to do that
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why would I want to do that
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Exactly…
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Billus said:
Looks fake but a very good (not nice) theme.
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Android has been up and running on older iPhones for a few months now via dualbooting (iBoot).
Got to remember however that Android is designed to run on a variety of hardware configurations.
iOS is NOT designed to run on anything without specific Apple-selected hardware. Drivers would need to be created for each component of each phone, the resolution would need to be the same, it would need to be able to sync with iTunes to use, etc. Basically, far too much bother.
I would be more interested in the possibilities of WP7 or Meego (or maybe WebOS in the future?...) ports since they're available for lots of hardware configurations. Particularly WP7, since the Galaxy S seems to share the exact hardware requirements for the first generation of WP7 devices launching next month, including those by Samsung.
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I bought the SGS after choosing that I wanted an android phone. I didn't pick this phone and then settled for the os that came with it.
Even if legit, why would you want to do that? If you want iOS get an iPhone, it would run better on the hardware it was designed for anyway.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
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agree
I bought this phone to own it and do whatever i want with it. On the iOS, certain Mr Jobs always have a noose around your neck with 5 updates a year...
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As far as I remember that video is fake, and it was done so that an iPhone's screen was captured with some program and then played with the HTC. The guy admittedly had to record the video a couple of times by the time he managed to synchronise his finger movement to the video playing on the HTC.
I agree with the most committed Android fans here, why the hell would we want to have iOS??? Like most we made the decision for freedom and choice and to be able to create and share our own content, not just consume.
However, I am curious to know if there is a way to get IPA's to work on Android. The market is a little short on well polished games so it would be great to see if there is a way to get them onto the current generation of Android devices.
"why not"
cause "you can"
a hack is a hack, it's fun, doesn't mean you should replace android by ios for daily use. still, i'd try it for fun.
now, the video is prolly a fake anyway, but hey, you never know
Its coming out on april 1st next year a leaked samsung doc said
I was introduced to Android by installing Froyo on my iPhone 3G and dual booting it with iOS4. It made me want to sell the iPhone and get a "real" Android phone since the battery only lasted 90 mins in Froyo and it was seriously underpowered (but still faster than my mate's Magic).
Like hell, am I ever going back to iOS! To any of you who haven't previously owned an iPhone, trust me when I say that you aren't missing out on anything. Tweaking or customising anything in iOS on supported hardware was a pain in the back-side. Porting it to another device would be an absolute nightmare and really not worth the hassle!
"Why would I want to" and the like really don't add value to the conversation, dudes...
I was tempted to jump into the "can I run WM7 on the SGS" thread with the same childish smart ass comment, but took the mature path and just didn't bother reading the thread at all. Despite not being able to fathom why someone would want to, it's a legitimate technical question to ask if someone is interested in doing it.
Why the hate????
I've always known the guys at xda doing awesome things to their mobile phones, just because they can.
It's this "because we can" and "can we do this" attitude that has built xda from nothing to something very brilliant.
Had we not had such enterprising members, we'd never become the no. 1 andorid hackers in the world.
There is not a single forum that is as good and as xda.
Anyways I am very interested in this project. Dual booting the iOs is still awesome.
It's not a bad idea at all although it will take years before anything ever boots.
ikenley said:
I agree with the most committed Android fans here, why the hell would we want to have iOS??? Like most we made the decision for freedom and choice and to be able to create and share our own content, not just consume.
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Agreed, I left iFail due to it being locked down by Dictator Jobs. However playing/hacking is fun but I wouldnt want to use it as an everyday device.
lets see what comes first, ios on sgs or duke nukem forever...
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lets see what comes first, ios on sgs or duke nukem forever...
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haha, nice one!
Hi all, I am not a hacker but am very interested in windows phone 7. Currently, I have a Samsung Galaxy S from Bell, and I was wondering if windows phone 7 can be hacked on to it since it is a near identical to the Samsung Focus?
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I am interested too. Can put in donation for the developers.
Well considering there are hardware differences between even just the Vibrant and the Captivate that require different kernels for Android I think a port of Windows Phone 7 would be rather difficult to pull off as there won't be any source released that can be tweaked & recompiled for the Captivate.
Android = Open Source (Open-source software (OSS) is computer software that is available in source code form for which the source code and certain other rights normally reserved for copyright holders are provided under a software license that permits users to study, change, and improve the software. Open source licenses meet the requirements of the Open Source Definition. Some open source software is available within the public domain. Open source software is very often developed in a public, collaborative manner. Open-source software is the most prominent example of open-source development and often compared to (technically defined) user-generated content or (legally defined) open content movements.[1] The term open-source software originated as part of a marketing campaign for free software.[2] A report by Standish Group states that adoption of open-source software models has resulted in savings of about $60 billion per year to consumers.[3][4])
Microsoft = Proprietary (Proprietary software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of its owner. The purchaser, or licensee, is given the right to use the software under certain conditions, but restricted from other uses, such as modification, further distribution, or reverse engineering.)
But, the HTC HD2 has recently booted into a real version of Windows phone 7. So, if a version of Windows Phone 7 is obtained, it could quite possibly be put onto the Galaxy S devices, you know, if a Galaxy S owner really wants to.
I don't think this is possible. No android phone has dual booted yet. Plus WM isn't as open as android so I doubt it. Its not bad to dream though is it?
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But, the HTC HD2 has recently booted into a real version of Windows phone 7. So, if a version of Windows Phone 7 is obtained, it could quite possibly be put onto the Galaxy S devices, you know, if a Galaxy S owner really wants to.
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That phone is a windows phone already though. Captivate is android
Well.. leave it up to the hackers and I know they will find a way to do it.
But... most of the hacks out there have been done with devices with a *nix backbone in it.
Apple = Free BSD
Android = Java/Linux
Windows = Windows
I think you will see some hacks for the Windows 7 phones - I'm pretty sure it won't be as nice as the Android series, nor do I think anyone would want to port Windows onto an existing Android device.
I really think someone should get windows phone 7 onto this device, I would easily choose it over froyo. I am in love with everything about that phone and would love to be able to have it on my Captivate
^so get an hd2 or samsung focus or whatever
Thats the Point dude. Samsung Focus is almost like the Galaxy S. So I could imagine, that if you can gain the source files from Focus, you can port winphone7 to galaxy s So everybody with a Samsung Focus. UNlock the phone, read out the nand, give it to a coder/dev And lets hope for the best and support him
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Microsoft = Proprietary (Proprietary software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of its owner. The purchaser, or licensee, is given the right to use the software under certain conditions, but restricted from other uses, such as modification, further distribution, or reverse engineering.)
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You or any dev is *not* authorized to hack and release the windows ports. It could become a legal issue.
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Thats the Point dude. Samsung Focus is almost like the Galaxy S. So I could imagine, that if you can gain the source files from Focus, you can port winphone7 to galaxy s So everybody with a Samsung Focus. UNlock the phone, read out the nand, give it to a coder/dev And lets hope for the best and support him
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Just offer your Captivate for trade on craigslist. You'll get WP7 a lot faster that way vs. waiting for an SGS port (because never is a really long time).
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Thats the Point dude. Samsung Focus is almost like the Galaxy S. So I could imagine, that if you can gain the source files from Focus, you can port winphone7 to galaxy s So everybody with a Samsung Focus. UNlock the phone, read out the nand, give it to a coder/dev And lets hope for the best and support him
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Captivate = Hummingbird vs Focus = Snapdragon
what...
About the only way this is going to be possible is if you have friends at Microsoft that have the authority to develop windows mobile on a phone that they have no actual interest in. Not to mention I doubt Samsung would even let them haha. In summation no you cant put windows on the captivate.
Maybe with the new MS - ARM agreement we will be able to get a working ROM for Galaxy S(I and II).
Guys , with the unbrickable mod(I have it) we can test it . And AdamOutler said it would be possible to do it because WP supports our processors.
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Guys , with the unbrickable mod(I have it) we can test it . And AdamOutler said it would be possible to do it because WP supports our processors.
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Lemme know. I'm unbrickable also.
sent from my unbrickable modded captivate.
I'm willing to do anything since my phone is unbrickable
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Hi b-eock and bulletproof1013
Unbrickable mod? Please tell me more. I have a Galaxy S that needs reloading....badly
Thanks
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Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Porting requires access to sources. Don't expect a positive answer on this thread
Similar hardware? I hope your having a joke, they are very,very different. iOS is a closed source operating system with tight security, even if you had the same hardware it would be very difficult to get it to boot.
Why would you want iOS 4 on an SGS? Not only are they are far from compatible, but the thought of iOS on an Android makes me sick. What improvements does iOS have over Android 2.2.1?
While we're porting obsolete and generally useless software, maybe we can port Donut and Cupcake.
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Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Next time, please post intelligent questions in this forum.
If you want iOS, go buy an iphone. No one will port it in an android phone but android is being ported to an iphone which just shows how superior android is.
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Oh god please no!!! I don't want a handicapped OS for my phone.
Hm. Why do you feel the need to ask if it is possible to delimb a horse and replace its legs with a bowl of nasty tasting tomatoe soup?
If you want iOS garbage then go buy an iphone4
Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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I don't get the strong views either, I have both, what's the problem?
In response to OP I think you already have an answer
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Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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My sentiments exactly, it gets like a bear pit in here most days, it's bad enough having to mind a toddler at home all day without having to trawl through countless "keyboard warriors" taking virtual lumps out of each other.
snapper.fishes said:
Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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I actually lol'ed at this, no offense!
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Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Similar only in the crudest of senses. The SGS has a vastly superior CPU.
Regardless of this, the reason WHY you see Android being ported to all sorts of things it was never designed for (netbooks, Iphone3gs, HTC HD2, etc...) is because Android is an open platform with available source.
The reason why you do not see things like IOS or Windows Mobile being ported, is because both are closed platforms with no source.
Whether it'd be desirable to tinker with IOS on different hardware is less an issue than whether it's actually possible. Though nothing is intrinsically impossible, I wouldn't go around holding my breath on this one.
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Similar only in the crudest of senses. The SGS has a vastly superior CPU.
Regardless of this, the reason WHY you see Android being ported to all sorts of things it was never designed for (netbooks, Iphone3gs, HTC HD2, etc...) is because Android is an open platform with available source.
The reason why you do not see things like IOS or Windows Mobile being ported, is because both are closed platforms with no source.
Whether it'd be desirable to tinker with IOS on different hardware is less an issue than whether it's actually possible. Though nothing is intrinsically impossible, I wouldn't go around holding my breath on this one.
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SGS has basicly the same CPU/GPU as the Iphone4 did you know? Its just clocked at 800mhz and uses GX 545 gpu while we have 550 (I think I got the numbers right) Also Samsung builds the CPU's for Apple while LG makes the screens. Anyways no biggy. On a dif topic I like how they are porting over Android to Iphone4 now (Iphone 3G/no 3GS). IF someone somehow manages to port over ios to SGS it would be shut down in a micron by Apples lawyers
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Similar hardware? I hope your having a joke, they are very,very different. iOS is a closed source operating system with tight security, even if you had the same hardware it would be very difficult to get it to boot.
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Oh please don't say tight. Android are very similar in Security, maybe a bit better. I read a analysis about this yesterday on heise security. Everything big with a locked bootloader, is a meal for hackers like fail0verflow.
To the Questioner. I hope you are joking. Not only the OS is diffrent based additionally the hardware is a little better. It's not the same SOC. Maybe you should by iPhone (personified) and live in ignorance what's happening in your OS.
So don't bother, the most people do that.
Is it possible to run an actual Windows Rom in an android device? I remember hearing about this probably a few years ago with wp7, I could've sworn people had figured it out. I've got an AT&T note and miss Windows, but not enough to permanently switch to a Windows device. Any ideas?
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Never
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Never
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Ignore the genius who says never. It comes down to hardware support. If you had two phones on the market with identical hardware, one running Windows Phone, one running Android, then you might be able to switch the bootloaders and operating systems. WP8 has a new secure boot which I know less about. WP7 didn't, but some of the bootloaders were still locked.
So yes, it's possible, but I don't know of a compatible Android device. The first I'd look at would be the ATIV S and the Galaxy S III, but I expect they're very different. There are a few slightly more complicated options but they're not really worth mentioning because.. developers just aren't interested.
I'm sure you could do it if you were willing to give up the rest of your life for a while. Shame isn't it? You'd think MS would release Windows Phone as a download for existing popular handsets in the same way Canonical is doing for their fledgling OS.