[Q] USB Audio Possible? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can anyone confirm if this has USB Audio out? If so, what cable do I need or if I need to hook it up to a DAC?
I want to hook the phone up to when I'm in my car's AUX so I can listen to music. I really don't want to use the headphone jack because 1, it's on top, and 2, I'd need to plug 2 things in if I need to charge the phone.

It does work but you will need a dac and a usb otg cable.

huxley309 said:
It does work but you will need a dac and a usb otg cable.
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That's perfectly fine. Unlike the Nexus 4, not even those will work... >_< Thanks for the confirmation.

Another option is to buy HTC Bluetooth StereoClip.
http://www.htc.com/www/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereoclip/

apa1102 said:
Another option is to buy HTC Bluetooth StereoClip.
http://www.htc.com/www/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereoclip/
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I've read many reviews of using bluetooth. From $20 to $100... they all have lower quality then direct cable. I do have a quite nice sound system in my car and quality is really important to me so I'd rather go with the direct cable.
I'm still considering selling the 4 for the One once it's available here and so far, things are looking quite good. I do hope I can have the option of choosing the higher MP camera since I am here in China/Hong Kong. I do like to be able to crop pictures.

turbocomppro said:
I've read many reviews of using bluetooth. From $20 to $100... they all have lower quality then direct cable. I do have a quite nice sound system in my car and quality is really important to me so I'd rather go with the direct cable.
I'm still considering selling the 4 for the One once it's available here and so far, things are looking quite good. I do hope I can have the option of choosing the higher MP camera since I am here in China/Hong Kong. I do like to be able to crop pictures.
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Same here, prefer cables. Using a cable to go from an iPod interface to a Samsung dock. Hopefully I could get a similar dock (or deconstruct this one) to use with the One.

HTC One is reportedly interworking with FiiO E7 USB DAC/amp:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
HTC One > USB out >> USB OTG adapter cable + USB cable provided in the DAC box >> FiiO E7 USB DAC/amp >> headphones
About the so-called OTG cable:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1155#post_8979038
Thanks Huxley!

Thanks for the info. I will definitely consider the One when it becomes available here.

Danba i know, I'm huxley on head fi

apa1102 said:
Another option is to buy HTC Bluetooth StereoClip.
http://www.htc.com/www/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereoclip/
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If history is a guide, the aptx Samsung HS3000 is likely more economical than the HTC version. AptX bluetooth is pretty good, but it will be the weak link in a high-end setup. If your environment is quiet, you can definitely hear the difference vs. wired IEMs. For car though, not bad.

danba said:
HTC One is reportedly interworking with FiiO E7 USB DAC/amp:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
HTC One > USB out >> USB OTG adapter cable + USB cable provided in the DAC box >> FiiO E7 USB DAC/amp >> headphones
About the so-called OTG cable:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1155#post_8979038
Thanks Huxley!
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I would love to try my One via a Fiio E17 usb dac / headphone amp
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

"For those that need to know, the Fiio E17 works fine with the HTC One."
http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one/30#post_9328043

HTC One & FiiO E17:
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/tag/gavins-gadgets/
stock HTC One > USB out >> FiiO E17 USB DAC >> FiiO E12 amp
"I also tried connected a Fiio E17 headphone/dac via USB. This worked really well, and I am pleased that the HTC One has USB audio out as a standard feature. As a comparison you can get USB audio out from the iPad Mini, iPhone 5 and older Apple devices, but as Apple control the authentication aspect, any USB DAC subsequently costs a premium due to the royalties Apple charges and their bespoke connectors. At least with the HTC One it is using a worldwide standard micro USB connection.
Connecting the Fiio E17 via USB to the HTC One, and using the DAC on the Fiio you begin to realise just how capable the One is in the audio department. Truly astonishing. And for the full affect you can use the Fiio E17 as a USB DAC only and feed the signal to the Fiio E12 Mont Blanc Portable Headphone amplifier, as shown below."
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danba said:
HTC One & FiiO E17:
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/tag/gavins-gadgets/
stock HTC One > USB out >> FiiO E17 USB DAC >> FiiO E12 amp
"I also tried connected a Fiio E17 headphone/dac via USB. This worked really well, and I am pleased that the HTC One has USB audio out as a standard feature. As a comparison you can get USB audio out from the iPad Mini, iPhone 5 and older Apple devices, but as Apple control the authentication aspect, any USB DAC subsequently costs a premium due to the royalties Apple charges and their bespoke connectors. At least with the HTC One it is using a worldwide standard micro USB connection.
Connecting the Fiio E17 via USB to the HTC One, and using the DAC on the Fiio you begin to realise just how capable the One is in the audio department. Truly astonishing. And for the full affect you can use the Fiio E17 as a USB DAC only and feed the signal to the Fiio E12 Mont Blanc Portable Headphone amplifier, as shown below."
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My experience with HTC One
When using various music players including my preference NeutronMP with Fiio E17 connected via USB otg cable is that HTC One outputs analog audio and thus the E17 dac / headphone amp is acting as an amplifier only.
When I use the same hardware with USB Audio recorder Pro trial it works as expected, that is Usb outputs digital audio and the E17 operates as a dac and amp.
The paid version of usb audio recorder Pro doesn't work at all.
Edit usb audio recorder pro now works fine
I am on custom Rom ARHD 4.2
Edit now ARHD 9.3 plus custom kernel
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

huxley309 said:
It does work but you will need a dac and a usb otg cable.
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I've got an old car dock that worked for my old Samsung phone to charge and output audio, but doesn't seem to for htc one. For the Samsung I had to run a program in the background to get the dock to output sound via usb. Is there a setting I need or background program needed to run for this too?
Any help would be awesome, thanks!

dont buy the HTC Stereo Clip A100. It doesnt work. See here http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/htc-one-and-the-htc-a100-car-clip/
A better option is the Samsung HS3000 with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable going from HS3000 headphone socket out to the AUX car input.

shannyb1972 said:
I've got an old car dock that worked for my old Samsung phone to charge and output audio, but doesn't seem to for htc one. For the Samsung I had to run a program in the background to get the dock to output sound via usb. Is there a setting I need or background program needed to run for this too?
Any help would be awesome, thanks!
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Won't happen, the whole point of a dac is it takes the digital signal from usb, and converts it to audio.
Much like how your cd player converts the data on the disc to audio, you need the necessary hardware for it to work.
A dock is just a simple usb connector, nothing more.

huxley309 said:
Won't happen, the whole point of a dac is it takes the digital signal from usb, and converts it to audio.
Much like how your cd player converts the data on the disc to audio, you need the necessary hardware for it to work.
A dock is just a simple usb connector, nothing more.
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Ok, but my old phone was capable of outputting audio this way without any other hardware. It was phone=>dock=>aux input. I thought the car dock was wired a special way so the phone knew it was a car dock, not just a regular usb connection. Once the phone knew it was attached to a car dock, it would turn on my car home screen app and run another program that I found here at xda that told the phone to output via usb instead of the speaker. But that program I think was specific to Samsung.
I could be wrong about the details of how, but the setup worked. Just curious if I could do the same with my one. Maybe not.
Thanks for your help!

Hmm well that is bizarre, i couldn't honestly say but sounds like it has hardware that's specific to that phone, so it's probably unlikely that any other would work.
I still doubt there is a dac inside the dock, but clearly somethings going on hard to say without ripping it open.
Most car docks i've seen just make use of the 3.5mm jack for this very reason.

My S3 was able to output audio through the USB port, no DAC required. I had it hooked up through a cable to my car's 30-pin Apple connector and would transmit very good sound. I was hoping to do the same with my One. No luck to this point.
I'm hesitant to go purchase a bunch of cables without knowing. Guess I'll just hook it into the headphone port.

Related

Headset Or Usb headphones?

I need a decent way to listen to music through my kasier. first of all is there a place to buy usb headphones; at a brick and mortor store. I dont really want to buy online. Or simply whats the easiest and cheapest product to buy.
no htc use usb headphones
usb headphones are kinda like external soundcards like usb speakers
kaiser dont support usb host so cant use usb devices
htc however have their own usb connection called extUSb
which apart from being usb also carry 2 analog audio lines
headsets which use extUSB can be used to listen to audio
but they must be compatible with htc
You'll be able to find HTC replacement headphones with the proprietary plug but they're usually crap. So, get one of those adapters: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2715504#post2715504 and use any good standard headphone you have.
alternatively you can use bluetooth stereo headphones...

One cable for in car audio and charge - possible?

The talk around the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack from some phones has got me thinking... is it possible to have a cable in my car that I plug into the OnePlus3 USB C port, that then provides power AND audio out? I don't need DASH charging (but reasonably fast charging would be good), and I have a 3.5mm jack in my car, so is this possible, and if so, what would I need to connect from USB C to power and audio our (3.5mm)?
Why? My car has Bluetooth audio, but it's a pain. When I start the car it's not instant on. Sometimes it decides not to connect. Sometimes audio drops out. I also have another phone for work, but my car only allows a single bluetooth connection, so when I'm travelling for work, I'd like my work phone connected to Bluetooth for calls and my OnePlus3 connected via 3.5mm for audio. BUT I don't want another cable to connect. I want this simple and quick!
Any thoughts?!
is the BT in your car an embedded head unit?
you could get an FM-BT transmitter device like these:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...transmitter&sprefix=bluetooth+fm+tran,aps,332
which you could use instead of, or in addition to, your current BT solution
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as a side note, what you're asking for is definitely POSSIBLE, but likely a bit expensive and may not be SUPPORTED by your sound system.
Yes, my car has Bluetooth in the factory fitted head unit. Its just that Bluetooth tends to be a pain. Takes 30seconds to connect after I start the car, etc. And as my car also has 3.5mm input I was just thinking there may be a more elegant solution using USB C.
T39andcounting said:
Yes, my car has Bluetooth in the factory fitted head unit. Its just that Bluetooth tends to be a pain. Takes 30seconds to connect after I start the car, etc. And as my car also has 3.5mm input I was just thinking there may be a more elegant solution using USB C.
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like i said, there is (since USB-C can carry audio, even video and ethernet etc), but i'm pretty sure your car's head unit won't support it.
check out the BT-FM transmitter products i suggested.
2x4 said:
like i said, there is (since USB-C can carry audio, even video and ethernet etc), but i'm pretty sure your car's head unit won't support it.
check out the BT-FM transmitter products i suggested.
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Yeah, I get that, and like I said, my car has a 3.5mm input. So I need USB C -> Power and Audio via 3.5mm output. Something like the adaptor that comes with the Moto Z: http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-zs-usb-c-headphone-jack-adapter
But, I'd like to split the USB C off to provide power input as well as audio out. So I was thinking something like a USB C hub. But not sure if that would still provide the USB C Audio out as well as enough power to charge the phone.
T39andcounting said:
Yeah, I get that, and like I said, my car has a 3.5mm input. So I need USB C -> Power and Audio via 3.5mm output. Something like the adaptor that comes with the Moto Z: http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-zs-usb-c-headphone-jack-adapter
But, I'd like to split the USB C off to provide power input as well as audio out. So I was thinking something like a USB C hub. But not sure if that would still provide the USB C Audio out as well as enough power to charge the phone.
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you could try that adapter + a USB-C hub
I've used my Nexus 6P with USB-C hub to use mice/keyboard/flashdrive while charging my phone via USB-C, i assume OP3 is no different since it has USB-OTG as well (won't charge faster than 1.5A via the hub though)
What you need is a USB C DAC. Here. use an OTG cable from your phone to a hub. Plug the DAC into the hub. Audio will route out USB to DAC and then you can plug a 3.5mm cable into the DAC for high quality audio. The otg will charge the phone at the same time.

USB headphone port

Does the Nexus 6 support USB headphone adaptation? Older phone aux port is problematic. Can I use a USB adapter for audio purposes, while using standard headphones.
What do you mean when you say the headphone connection is problematic? Has it failed, or are you just not a fan of it?
Regarding using USB headphones, it probably will not work only because there is a dedicated (and superior) input for the purpose, meaning no need to add the capability to the USB connection. You probably would have better luck simply using a pair of Bluetooth headphones.
When plugged in standard headphones output is staticky and choppy. I am just curious if I can use the USB port to run audio from instead of the standard aux port.
And I answered your question. Use a Bluetooth headset as USB likely won't work.
BTW, your headphone jack needs to be cleaned. A drop of alcohol and plugging a pair of headphones in and out a few times should fix it.

Using usb-c port as audio output

Hi everyone,
Do you know if it's possible to use the USB port as audio output?
My headphones pin broke and got stuck inside the 3.5 jack. So if I can use the USB I won't have to take it to get repaired.
Thanks
andrewmsm said:
Hi everyone,
Do you know if it's possible to use the USB port as audio output?
My headphones pin broke and got stuck inside the 3.5 jack. So if I can use the USB I won't have to take it to get repaired.
Thanks
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Yes, it works with USB-C -- 3.5 Audio jack adapter (mine is branded "Google").
But the sound is only 16 bits, (DAC is in the cable), it's not as good as the 3.5 jack with PowerAmp...
It works with external USB DAC Amp's, I recommend TempoTec Sonata HD Pro around 45$ & HiBy Music app. Sound is much better with a good DAC Amp.

Usb-c 3.5mm with charge port unrecognized

Anyone have issues with there s20fe usb c to 3.5mm
headphone adapters? Everything i have had time to research said turn developer mode on and make sure disable usb audio routing is not selected. Ive done all this and im still confused is this something samsung has prevented in attempt for me to pay for bt headset?
You using the Samsung adapter?
Try toggling Developer options off.
Lol, the inconvenience of the dongle is enough motivation by itself to use bt
No im remote and i need to use the output to route my audio through an existing PA for a presentation tomorrow and this PA is analog and ancient as well. Ive already had to purchase this dongle and a 3.5mm to 1/4 cable for the sound technician.
ScottPhillips said:
No im remote and i need to use the output to route my audio through an existing PA for a presentation tomorrow and this PA is analog and ancient as well. Ive already had to purchase this dongle and a 3.5mm to 1/4 cable for the sound technician.
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If it's the Samsung dongle it has a built in DAC* and should work if the impedance is compatible with the preamp input.
Now it's getting to be a lot of if's.
I would test it first.
*To output in the analog realm from the phone you need to use a DAC interface. Raw output from the phone through the C port is in the digital realm.
yeah any dongle needs to have a DAC built into it and not all of them do. some phones have that inside, some don't like ours.
The Samsung adapter works well. I can confirm the UGREEN and SunnyLan 3.5mm+Charge adapters work as well.

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