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Whenever manufacturers pull unexpected moves, I always get a bit curious as to why. Now, I'm perfectly aware of that megapixels doesn't mean much for the outcome of the photo, but it seems that because of the low MP in the HTC One camera, the pictures don't seem to end up as detailed as in 13MP shooters, and the low MP show again when you zoom the photo.
I'm still getting this phone, though. It's the only one that's interesting right now. Lagdung can take a hike.
Good to see that you have seen the light. I flurted briefly with an s3 which was not a bad device but doesn't compare with the 'one.'
The camera has it's pluses and minuses compared with other top end devices but, for me at least, the pluses considerably outweigh the minuses.
I am confident that you won't be disappointed.
Do you use your phone to snap pics of your mates down the pub? 4Mp with 2um sensor pixel is perfect. Fast shutter even in low light and decent file size.
Do you use it to go out and capture windswept vistas at the finest detail level possible? If so then there isn't a phone camera out there that will do them real justice - take the Canon and do the job properly.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Do you use your phone to snap pics of your mates down the pub? 4Mp with 2um sensor pixel is perfect. Fast shutter even in low light and decent file size.
Do you use it to go out and capture windswept vistas at the finest detail level possible? If so then there isn't a phone camera out there that will do them real justice - take the Canon and do the job properly.
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actually there might be one phone Nokia 808 lol
Correction: 4UP not 4MP
anyway, the camera is pretty good for general use, as long as you dont always keep zooming in on the images. quality is fine. at least it blows the Nexus 4 camera out of the water
The larger pixel size equates to a faster shutter speed that makes sense. Pictures are so good.
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Whenever manufacturers pull unexpected moves, I always get a bit curious as to why. Now, I'm perfectly aware of that megapixels doesn't mean much for the outcome of the photo, but it seems that because of the low MP in the HTC One camera, the pictures don't seem to end up as detailed as in 13MP shooters, and the low MP show again when you zoom the photo.
I'm still getting this phone, though. It's the only one that's interesting right now. Lagdung can take a hike.
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Lagdung? Is that like slow crap? LOL Uh oh, I have a laggy dung
IINexusII said:
Correction: 4UP not 4MP
anyway, the camera is pretty good for general use, as long as you dont always keep zooming in on the images. quality is fine. at least it blows the Nexus 4 camera out of the water
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Many cameras blow the N4's one out of the water. It's crap.
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Lagdung? Is that like slow crap? LOL Uh oh, I have a laggy dung
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Lagdung = A nickname I made up for Samsung.
bobsie41 said:
Good to see that you have seen the light. I flurted briefly with an s3 which was not a bad device but doesn't compare with the 'one.'
The camera has it's pluses and minuses compared with other top end devices but, for me at least, the pluses considerably outweigh the minuses.
I am confident that you won't be disappointed.
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I hope so too.
The 808 comes with a 30-300 lense? How do you fit it in your pocket?
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LOL!
4 is definitely enough for day to day shots.
But my 808. Wow. No comparison
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Don't forget about OIS. Obviously that helps with videos, but it seems to really help stabilize the hand for quick shots as well.
I have to say that after battery life (I knew from the moment the specs leaked, that 2300 mah wouldn't be enough) that the camera quality has been my biggest dissapointment, the phone has a HARD time focusing, the picture quality it's mediocre/sometimes decent and it really doesn't make sense since google is making a big deal out of the camera.
Check out the tag line for the nexus 5 on the play store: "Nexus 5 helps you capture the everyday and the epic in fresh new ways. It's the slimmest and fastest Nexus phone ever made, powered by Android 4.4, KitKat."
If you go the official nexus 5 website you will find lots of info about how good the camera is : http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
or the commercial ... it's all about the camera
Anyway, according to Joshua Topolsky, The Verge's Chief Editor, there's hope and we will get an update trying to fix what's broken, do you guys think it will really make a difference? Or is this camera simply a poor camera? Here's the quote:
"Representatives from the Android team say that software is to blame for the weak performance, not hardware, and reps tell me that a fix is coming to deal with the issues in the upcoming weeks. I've even seen an early build of the new software, and while it's only a minor improvement — autofocus is a hair faster, but still inconsistent, and picture quality hasn't changed — it's nice to see Google already at work.
Of course, there's no set date for a fix at this point, and I don't know how much the camera can actually be improved through software, but if the Moto X is any kind of example, there might just be a solution to this very disheartening problem."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/4/5062724/google-nexus-5-review
I don't have any issues with the camera. The iverge is so pro apple it isn't even funny anymore
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I've found no quality issue, in fact the opposite, though focus is slow
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Used HDR+ and took great photos for me. Also, have seen The Verge post a bunch of BS, not sure why people even read that crap.
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I've found no quality issue, in fact the opposite, though focus is slow
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This is the deal. The camera is quite good but the issue is the focus is too slow. They need to fix that part.
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The verge are right in this case. The focus is awfully slow. Google pioneered the instant capture feature on the galaxy nexus, dont know why they abandoned it on the nexus 4 and 5.
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I don't have any issues with the camera. The iverge is so pro apple it isn't even funny anymore
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That's just not true, and you are very biased, it seems. Like others have said, there is significant lag in the camera focus and my Nexus 5 can take much much better photos than my Nexus S, but not any faster. And that is not okay.
I get the impression that all the effort on the software side so far has gone into HDR+
My experience playing around with it is that HDR+ not only improves detail in bright/dark areas, but it also results in sharper images overall. (This is contrary to what I have found with other HDR implementations which have resulted in blurrier images). Of course sometimes you don't want to use HDR (Maybe you want to photograph a figure silhouetted against the sunset for example).
Whilst I didn't buy the N5 as a replacement for an SLR, hopefully the non-HDR mode can be improved. After all, the best camera is the one you have with you.
(I also agree regarding the camera focus. At the very least, an option to pre-focus would make a huge difference!)
Shutter is slow... but it takes decent shots
It's no secret that Google needs to work on their camera software.
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It's no secret that Google needs to work on their camera software.
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Working in a software company, I can imagine how this goes...
"Who wants to work on auto-awesome." - "Yay!"
"Who wants to work on photo-sphere." - "Yay!"
"Who wants to optimize the shutter lag." - "..."
Also, your lunch looks much nicer than my work canteen pizza
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Used HDR+ and took great photos for me. Also, have seen The Verge post a bunch of BS, not sure why people even read that crap.
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The same here, very surprised by picture quality in low light using HDR+ (for landscape mainly)... I mean im sure there are better cameras but for a phone im impressed
But i've a weird problem don't know if software or hardware but the camera app stay black screen when opened from the lock screen. it happened many times, i had to put my pin code kill the app and launch again to get the camera app working again.
Anyone got the same issue?
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This is the deal. The camera is quite good but the issue is the focus is too slow. They need to fix that part.
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As a result, it's turned my shots into unfocused poo
At least the shutterlag and slow focus should be fixable, though. I hope.
I'm not expecting Note 3-level of camera, but it'd be nice if we could have say... 70% of the Note 3's camera performance.
Here's one I took and then used Snapseed. The hw is quite capable. https://plus.google.com/101858146614640675194/posts/1jwmHP58BUk
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I'm finding the camera very usable with good results.
However, try using video mode and pinch to zoom. Does this cause Camera to freeze for seconds for others, either recovering eventually or crashing out?
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That's just not true, and you are very biased, it seems. Like others have said, there is significant lag in the camera focus and my Nexus 5 can take much much better photos than my Nexus S, but not any faster. And that is not okay.
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haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.
I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
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haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.
I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.
Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
Definitely needs to be fixed.
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Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?
You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.
If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
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The shutter lag is insane for a phone with these specs. I used Camera FX and it's much better, but all the images come out very dark.
blazeoc said:
I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.
Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
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Look this thread is about issues with the Nexus 5's camera. What good are you doing when you tell people "It's not that bad guys! You just have to anticipate the 1-2 seconds lag, I learned it too!"
It's just ignorant to tell people there is no issue with the camera at all, because you yourself can work around the lag issue. You do see that this might annoy people, especially normal users?
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
Rom choice for both phones is near similar. The camera is really up to what you mainly use it for. As a point and shoot casual photographer (not needing high megapixel count) the One has a spectacular camera. Zoe option in sense roms is fantastic, multi capture is amazing for getting that perfect picture (it will capture a ton of pictures and you pick the best of the bunch). Due to the "ultra pixel" camera, low light images come out crisper and brighter than the higher megapixel competitors. Only downfall is you will not want to crop much of the image due to lie pixel count. For day to day regular photos, it gets the job done.
In benchmarking, the S4 is a little faster, but I see no difference between the two side by side. Unlocking the bootloader, in my opinion, is easier on HTC phones than Samsung. Only downfall is going back to complete stock usually requires s-off, which if you get a One with the 1.57 hboot, you have a 50/50 chance of s-off exploit working.
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Uzephi said:
Rom choice for both phones is near similar. The camera is really up to what you mainly use it for. As a point and shoot casual photographer (not needing high megapixel count) the One has a spectacular camera. Zoe option in sense roms is fantastic, multi capture is amazing for getting that perfect picture (it will capture a ton of pictures and you pick the best of the bunch). Due to the "ultra pixel" camera, low light images come out crisper and brighter than the higher megapixel competitors. Only downfall is you will not want to crop much of the image due to lie pixel count. For day to day regular photos, it gets the job done.
In benchmarking, the S4 is a little faster, but I see no difference between the two side by side. Unlocking the bootloader, in my opinion, is easier on HTC phones than Samsung. Only downfall is going back to complete stock usually requires s-off, which if you get a One with the 1.57 hboot, you have a 50/50 chance of s-off exploit working.
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tnx for such clear answer :good:
You could find more images in the forum, but here is one I just randomly took. This was taken in a very dark part of the parking lot. The image actually turned out brighter than how dark it really was. No editing, just straight from the capture.
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Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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HTC One is "sensual" i can't say the same for the Galaxy.
The 4 UP camera is not a problem and much more better than the 13 MP of the Gs4 if you use manual settings
About the sound the One wins again
In fact except these points the 2 phones are equivalents and balanced
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HTC One is "sensual" i can't say the same for the Galaxy.
The 4 UP camera is not a problem and much more better than the 13 MP of the Gs4 if you use manual settings
About the sound the One wins again
In fact except these points the 2 phones are equivalents and balanced
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Yes, the sound is amazing on the one, he specifically didn't ask about that, but it is true, the audio driver on stock based roms is amazing.
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Besides battery, the camera seems to be the biggest dividing factor. How much can updates improve a camera after launch?
Also, what about apps from the store. I don't mind using a 3rd party app for the camera if it's better.
Basically, hardware vs software for the camera?
J_Bone said:
Besides battery, the camera seems to be the biggest dividing factor. How much can updates improve a camera after launch?
Also, what about apps from the store. I don't mind using a 3rd party app for the camera if it's better.
Basically, hardware vs software for the camera?
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nothing is going to fix the narrow field of view that the camera has. but everything else is software, which can be updated. the only way an app is going to make things better is if the app is able to process the image on its own. if you want to learn a bit more on it, the latest android central podcast, episode 203, talks about why they think the moto camera is never as good as it should be.
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Besides battery, the camera seems to be the biggest dividing factor. How much can updates improve a camera after launch?
Also, what about apps from the store. I don't mind using a 3rd party app for the camera if it's better.
Basically, hardware vs software for the camera?
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nothing is going to fix the narrow field of view that the camera has. but everything else is software, which can be updated. the only way an app is going to make things better is if the app is able to process the image on its own. if you want to learn a bit more on it, the latest android central podcast, episode 203, talks about why they think the moto camera is never as good as it should be.
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Android Police and other sites did a breakdown of Android L awhile back. Guess what they found? A lot of Camera APIs. So most likely Google finally improved camera software which would definitely help the camera. In terms of hardware, the camera sensor is the same as in the G2 and G3, and those phones take good photos. It must be a software issue, since 4.4.4 isn't that good with images
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...image-capture-photographers-everywhere-cheer/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...bles-burst-mode-thorough-control-photos-much/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8274/understanding-androids-camera-hal3
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Android Police and other sites did a breakdown of Android L awhile back. Guess what they found? A lot of Camera APIs. So most likely Google finally improved camera software which would definitely help the camera. In terms of hardware, the camera sensor is the same as in the G2 and G3, and those phones take good photos. It must be a software issue, since 4.4.4 isn't that good with images
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...image-capture-photographers-everywhere-cheer/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...bles-burst-mode-thorough-control-photos-much/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8274/understanding-androids-camera-hal3
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it is more than that though. the oems do not have to use those apis. and those apis really don't have anything to do with the convesion from light to a pic. this is why i referred to the podcast. here is how it was explained. a camera sensor pics up light. and it is up to the firmware to take that data and turn it into a picture. this firmware is not the api. and moto could license better firmware to give us better pics... but from the looks of it they would rather save some cash. it does not matter that the sensor is the same 'sensor' that is in the gs4, g2, and g3. the 'lenses' are most definitely different and the firmware that converts the light into a pic i also very different from that in the lg and samsung.
i think moto will improve upon it just as they did the last moto x. but i don't think it will ever take as good of pics as the g3.
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it is more than that though. the oems do not have to use those apis. and those apis really don't have anything to do with the convesion from light to a pic. this is why i referred to the podcast. here is how it was explained. a camera sensor pics up light. and it is up to the firmware to take that data and turn it into a picture. this firmware is not the api. and moto could license better firmware to give us better pics... but from the looks of it they would rather save some cash. it does not matter that the sensor is the same 'sensor' that is in the gs4, g2, and g3. the 'lenses' are most definitely different and the firmware that converts the light into a pic i also very different from that in the lg and samsung.
i think moto will improve upon it just as they did the last moto x. but i don't think it will ever take as good of pics as the g3.
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since this is the case, Moto spending money for the license will up the price in the Moto X, which I think is not what they wanted to do. also, LG, HTC, Sony, and Samsung will most likely not sell their licenses since that is what makes them produce the best pic quality by their standards. maybe old licenses would be sold? even then, I wouldn't want competition to use my stuff. other companies may not want to sell either, so Moto would have to research themselves, which takes more time and more money which will get passed onto the consumer
off topic: so based on what you're saying, maybe that's why the Nexus does not have really good pic quality. imo, Google could still fix it up in L, which will also be passed down to Moto X since it is on vanilla Android. Google did say they want the Nexus line to eventually have a good camera experience, and L may be an answer to that. I am sure Google can incorporate the firmware in for converting light
Alot of the reviews says, nexus 6 camera experience has been a "hit or miss" from taking a good pic even with HDR on. Would it help to install a new camera app and do some tweakings over it, or better yet use an xposed module (if any) to fix the issue?
I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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A lens is proportionate to the sensor. On top of that? It's a fixed lens. They can make those extremely small when we're talking about phone sensors. There is also no mechanical shutter, meaning the lens can be even more compact. This is why mirrorless cameras have small lenses. This of course goes for cell phone lenses in general, but the reason is there's really no need to put a huge lens on a phone.
The dual LED flashes won't overexpose the image, don't worry. In the studio we use a ring flash - same concept - there are some versions that operate as a regular flash, and there's some versions that operate constant on. You can shoot with either. Studio LED lighting is even becoming a thing now, it's cool because you can control the color temp directly and change the brightness.. it's also always on so WYSIWYG. Either way your flash will operate TTL and will not overexpose Xenon - what a hotshoe flash uses - will just use a lot of energy and drain your batteries. LED is very efficient.
The ring flash appears to be too small to have the "ring flash effect", which is uniform lighting around a subject that is popular in fashion and hides blemishes.. I mean it's like the size of a finger. The source of the flash is too small to produce any meaningful difference between the "ring" flash and the regular samsung/iphone flashes. It's going to look about the same. If you see a difference, it's software.
I am just excited about the RAW support in 5.0. I am okay with an f/2.0 aperture on a device in my pocket. If I needed something better, my DSLR has a 50mm f/1.5 which is only a camera bag away
The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
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I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
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The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy
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Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
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Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
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I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
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Let us know how it goes
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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
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Then something is broken on your phone. Completely stock N6, not even root let alone disabling encryption, without HDR+ or Flash... the phone takes pictures within half a second every time.
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Let us know how it goes
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It's still FC's even after I moved the camera.apk and camera.odex into the system/app and I wrote over the Nexus's libs with the G3's. I'm not sure why its FC's maybe I can install the framework.apk from my G3 and see if that works.
Try some low light shots....
tripler6 said:
I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Any chance for Slo Mo video (at least 120fps) with this "mythical camera app"?
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Try some low light shots....
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I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
Cwoomer said:
I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
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The pics are great when you are in a very well lit place. The moment you start to lose even a little light (semi lit), the camera really struggles. I'm very disappointed to start, but I'm going to stay patient and wait for Google to fix this.
Pilz said:
I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
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The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
dannieloco said:
The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
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The G3 uses the IMX135 sensor while the Nexus uses the IMX214 which is a better sensor. So in theory the Nexus 6 is capable of better photos if the software can back it up. The G3 still uses the lib's and framework from LG no matter what camera app you are using from what I understand.
Anyone know anything about the Slo Mo capabilities? Im wanting to buy the N6 but the Slo Mo feature is really important to me. Hopefully it is possible with the sensor which everyone seems to regard as a pretty high quality sensor.