How come HTC put a 4MP camera in the One? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Whenever manufacturers pull unexpected moves, I always get a bit curious as to why. Now, I'm perfectly aware of that megapixels doesn't mean much for the outcome of the photo, but it seems that because of the low MP in the HTC One camera, the pictures don't seem to end up as detailed as in 13MP shooters, and the low MP show again when you zoom the photo.
I'm still getting this phone, though. It's the only one that's interesting right now. Lagdung can take a hike.

Good to see that you have seen the light. I flurted briefly with an s3 which was not a bad device but doesn't compare with the 'one.'
The camera has it's pluses and minuses compared with other top end devices but, for me at least, the pluses considerably outweigh the minuses.
I am confident that you won't be disappointed.

Do you use your phone to snap pics of your mates down the pub? 4Mp with 2um sensor pixel is perfect. Fast shutter even in low light and decent file size.
Do you use it to go out and capture windswept vistas at the finest detail level possible? If so then there isn't a phone camera out there that will do them real justice - take the Canon and do the job properly.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Do you use your phone to snap pics of your mates down the pub? 4Mp with 2um sensor pixel is perfect. Fast shutter even in low light and decent file size.
Do you use it to go out and capture windswept vistas at the finest detail level possible? If so then there isn't a phone camera out there that will do them real justice - take the Canon and do the job properly.
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actually there might be one phone Nokia 808 lol

Correction: 4UP not 4MP
anyway, the camera is pretty good for general use, as long as you dont always keep zooming in on the images. quality is fine. at least it blows the Nexus 4 camera out of the water

The larger pixel size equates to a faster shutter speed that makes sense. Pictures are so good.

Theshawty said:
Whenever manufacturers pull unexpected moves, I always get a bit curious as to why. Now, I'm perfectly aware of that megapixels doesn't mean much for the outcome of the photo, but it seems that because of the low MP in the HTC One camera, the pictures don't seem to end up as detailed as in 13MP shooters, and the low MP show again when you zoom the photo.
I'm still getting this phone, though. It's the only one that's interesting right now. Lagdung can take a hike.
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Lagdung? Is that like slow crap? LOL Uh oh, I have a laggy dung

IINexusII said:
Correction: 4UP not 4MP
anyway, the camera is pretty good for general use, as long as you dont always keep zooming in on the images. quality is fine. at least it blows the Nexus 4 camera out of the water
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Many cameras blow the N4's one out of the water. It's crap.
californiarailroader said:
Lagdung? Is that like slow crap? LOL Uh oh, I have a laggy dung
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Lagdung = A nickname I made up for Samsung.
bobsie41 said:
Good to see that you have seen the light. I flurted briefly with an s3 which was not a bad device but doesn't compare with the 'one.'
The camera has it's pluses and minuses compared with other top end devices but, for me at least, the pluses considerably outweigh the minuses.
I am confident that you won't be disappointed.
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I hope so too.

The 808 comes with a 30-300 lense? How do you fit it in your pocket?
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LOL!

4 is definitely enough for day to day shots.
But my 808. Wow. No comparison
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Don't forget about OIS. Obviously that helps with videos, but it seems to really help stabilize the hand for quick shots as well.

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HTC Incredible S' Camera - TOO much noise compression!

I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject making them unacceptably too soft.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
Nothing like this for me ... Pictures are perfect ... I love the cam ... Maybe its cuz u zoom in too much or something.
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Hmmm, I never zoom though.
Or maybe its just our diff opinions ... For me its perfect ... Maybe u expected something better
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chobie said:
I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
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I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I hope this is just a software problem and hopefully they could patch it via an update.
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I'm no photographer, but I noticed the file size as well, too much compression.
And waaaay to much noise reduction.
Also, you can switch of standard widescreen to normal 4:3 which results in this:
5:3 = 3264 x 1952 = 6371328 = 6.4 megapixel
4:3 = 3264 x 2448 = 7990272 = 8.0 megapixel
Hopefully we can turn off noise reduction and/or compression in the next update. Shouldn't be too hard for HTC to disable stuff right
Yes... I just upgraded from HTC Desire and I found that pics are not as detailed as before...
The compression thing should be an option, like many other DC.
I noticed the same with my IS...
My Camera 360 app's night enhancement mode is unusable now.
My N1 took beautiful sharp pictures of this same spot I took.
Now it's all blocky, soft, and washed out even though I've maxed out the resolution and size.
This makes me mad!
If it can take macroshots well, why can't it take landscape / non-macroshots well too?
1st photo: Nexus One
2nd Photo: HTC Incredible S
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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We dont have root yet though. Makes me sadder =/
HTC should update the firmware and fix this themselves. I wonder if theyll have this problem on Verizon's Incredible 2.
I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
when i load the photos to my laptop, i found all of them a little bit red...
I really can not be satisfied with this so-called 8 mega-pixel camera.
nikant said:
I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
nikant said:
got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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The most terrible scenario is using zoom. You would want to move forward a few steps, it entirely defeats the purpose of zoom.
We should rally this and send more samples to them.
What email contact did you guys use?
Hopefully they patch this with the Gingerbread update!
Maybe they had used to the bad quality of camera, because from now on, HTC is really not good at the entertainment field in mobile phone, no matter camera or music.

Is the camera as good as the reviews and you tube make out ?

I use a slr as my main camera as I do wedding photography as a hobby
I'm looking for a portable camera which will give me as much choice in settings as my slr and looking at the reviews and you tube the galaxy camera seems to be the one
Question from you users is it really as good as the reviews, are there any issues ? Do the settings really work ? I use aperture for slowing down shots for water etc and I see the camera has the settings so do they work ?
I am going to go into my local jessops tomorrow but wanted for opinions
Thanks
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Come on 29 views and no one can help me out ?
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30 views now and have no answer for you cause I'm using a different phone just read your thread for maybe finding a new camera compatible.
Ask Google in the mean time. Good luck
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Good Enough
Hi, I've had my camera for almost a week and I'm very pleased with it. Manual settings work ok I guess, I managed to take this picture of the moon the other night using manual settings.
Keep in mind the res of this picture is not the original!
moon
is this with 21x zoom ?
robb13 said:
Hi, I've had my camera for almost a week and I'm very pleased with it. Manual settings work ok I guess, I managed to take this picture of the moon the other night using manual settings.
Keep in mind the res of this picture is not the original!
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robb13 said:
Hi, I've had my camera for almost a week and I'm very pleased with it. Manual settings work ok I guess, I managed to take this picture of the moon the other night using manual settings.
Keep in mind the res of this picture is not the original!
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Had a play today the first thing which struck me was wow
The zoom is awsome and if half the features work as they should I'm Flogging my slr and getting one of these babies
Build is really good and the high res screen makes viewing pics a dream
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pileiba said:
is this with 21x zoom ?
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Yes, 21x and manual settings!!
mancuk29 said:
Had a play today the first thing which struck me was wow
The zoom is awsome and if half the features work as they should I'm Flogging my slr and getting one of these babies
Build is really good and the high res screen makes viewing pics a dream
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To play a little devils advocate: The pictures this camera produces are very good, but to be totally honest a half decent SLR will blow it away in terms of pure picture quality as it is in high-end compact/superzoom territory.
Internals from this camera are quoted to come from the Samsung WB850F, and one would imagine Samsung has done some more work on them to qualify a price almost twice what you can pick one of those up for now - as well as obviously the android benefit
I mean you're effectively getting the serious hardware from a SGS3 in there... That and the screen is absolutely phenominal, makes most camera displays look like very pathetic toys.
It sold itself to me anyway I was there on launch day for one.
mancuk29 said:
I use a slr as my main camera as I do wedding photography as a hobby
I'm looking for a portable camera which will give me as much choice in settings as my slr and looking at the reviews and you tube the galaxy camera seems to be the one
Question from you users is it really as good as the reviews, are there any issues ? Do the settings really work ? I use aperture for slowing down shots for water etc and I see the camera has the settings so do they work ?
I am going to go into my local jessops tomorrow but wanted for opinions
Thanks
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It depends on what you class as a review. The Samsung promo videos are excellently produced and really show off the countless features. I haven't seen too many in depth reviews so far.
My own experience is that it looks stunning, build quality solid, screen is outstanding, features are impressive, performance is excellent. But as for photographs, it still depends on 3 things... Lighting, Artistic eye for a good shot and a moderate level of understanding how cameras should be set up. These are pretty much standard for any camera you use away from the one built in to your average phone. Get these right and you can produce excellent shots that will make you proud.
molotov_sh said:
To play a little devils advocate: The pictures this camera produces are very good, but to be totally honest a half decent SLR will blow it away in terms of pure picture quality as it is in high-end compact/superzoom territory.
Internals from this camera are quoted to come from the Samsung WB850F, and one would imagine Samsung has done some more work on them to qualify a price almost twice what you can pick one of those up for now - as well as obviously the android benefit
I mean you're effectively getting the serious hardware from a SGS3 in there... That and the screen is absolutely phenominal, makes most camera displays look like very pathetic toys.
It sold itself to me anyway I was there on launch day for one.
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Considering the OP shoots with an SLR and does wedding photography as a hobby - I have a feeling the Canon G12 will deliver superior image quality and more features that matter for a serious photgrapher for only $379 (Actually, only $299 now at B&H...), compared to the Galaxy Camera which is designed for posting to your Facebook wall at $120 (Edit: $200 right now) more. As you mention, it has the internals of a FAR cheaper P&S camera, and I'd be shocked if it delivers significant improvements in IQ over that model. After all, the $200 extra in price over the WB850F (currently $300 after rebate at Adorama) can easily be explained by the display, touchscreen, Exynos4 CPU, and at least $100 wasted on a 3G radio interface few people will use. (Most will tether to another device.)

[Q] Camera MOD or Alternate APK?

So...the STOCK camera image quality is a great disappointment.
usually the end result is a grainy not so sharp and little detail captured. Pictures turn up with a lot of NOISE in them.
QUESTION: Does any one know of a alternative to getting better quality out of the sensor in the HTC One?
Maybe another APK, or a MOD or just anything else in general to get better quality?
When I take a picture outside in daylight the image size varies from 800Kb to 1.8 MB. Just by looking at the size of the file I can tell its crappy quality. My Nexus 4 was taking pictures of 2.3 - 3.4MB and it captured a great amount of detail.
Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Buy a phone with an 8mp camera.
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Buy a phone with an 8mp camera.
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So what your saying is that im pretty much SOL? lol
Your first sentence alone is enough to discredit your argument. Read some reviews from experts- I doubt you'll find any that describe the camera as "crappy".
Plus, you're comparing the file sizes of a 4mp camera and an 8mp camera, what do you expect?
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Even though it's "only" 4 megapixels, the camera in my One is better in every way than the 8 megapixel shooters in my Galaxy S 3 and Optimus G.
I don't use my camera phone to create photographic masterpieces, but it does the job I need it to do.

Could someone post the camera apk from KitKat?

I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
RErick said:
Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
BewareAlbatross said:
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
RErick said:
Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.

S4 vs Htc One today..?

Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
Rom choice for both phones is near similar. The camera is really up to what you mainly use it for. As a point and shoot casual photographer (not needing high megapixel count) the One has a spectacular camera. Zoe option in sense roms is fantastic, multi capture is amazing for getting that perfect picture (it will capture a ton of pictures and you pick the best of the bunch). Due to the "ultra pixel" camera, low light images come out crisper and brighter than the higher megapixel competitors. Only downfall is you will not want to crop much of the image due to lie pixel count. For day to day regular photos, it gets the job done.
In benchmarking, the S4 is a little faster, but I see no difference between the two side by side. Unlocking the bootloader, in my opinion, is easier on HTC phones than Samsung. Only downfall is going back to complete stock usually requires s-off, which if you get a One with the 1.57 hboot, you have a 50/50 chance of s-off exploit working.
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Uzephi said:
Rom choice for both phones is near similar. The camera is really up to what you mainly use it for. As a point and shoot casual photographer (not needing high megapixel count) the One has a spectacular camera. Zoe option in sense roms is fantastic, multi capture is amazing for getting that perfect picture (it will capture a ton of pictures and you pick the best of the bunch). Due to the "ultra pixel" camera, low light images come out crisper and brighter than the higher megapixel competitors. Only downfall is you will not want to crop much of the image due to lie pixel count. For day to day regular photos, it gets the job done.
In benchmarking, the S4 is a little faster, but I see no difference between the two side by side. Unlocking the bootloader, in my opinion, is easier on HTC phones than Samsung. Only downfall is going back to complete stock usually requires s-off, which if you get a One with the 1.57 hboot, you have a 50/50 chance of s-off exploit working.
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tnx for such clear answer :good:
You could find more images in the forum, but here is one I just randomly took. This was taken in a very dark part of the parking lot. The image actually turned out brighter than how dark it really was. No editing, just straight from the capture.
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slobo2712 said:
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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HTC One is "sensual" i can't say the same for the Galaxy.
The 4 UP camera is not a problem and much more better than the 13 MP of the Gs4 if you use manual settings
About the sound the One wins again
In fact except these points the 2 phones are equivalents and balanced
neo157 said:
HTC One is "sensual" i can't say the same for the Galaxy.
The 4 UP camera is not a problem and much more better than the 13 MP of the Gs4 if you use manual settings
About the sound the One wins again
In fact except these points the 2 phones are equivalents and balanced
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Yes, the sound is amazing on the one, he specifically didn't ask about that, but it is true, the audio driver on stock based roms is amazing.
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