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Cyanogen 8? Is this next? Or is this in the works? Also is 2.3.5 next and would it be numbered a different version when Ice Cream comes out? Also is anything coming from the devs to overclock to 800 yet?
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Also is anything coming from the devs to overclock to 800 yet?
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It's been done. So very very few phones are even stable at 800, and those that could generally performed worse in benches at 800 than at lower clocks. Many of these devices bootloop above 700.
Cyanogen 8 will not come out yet since will most likely be ice cream sandwich. I am not even sure is 2.3.5 will even come out and no the devs can not overclock this device to 800mhz because is 768 is the limit of the processor. Most people's phones do not even run that smoothly at 768 anyways. If somehow the dev found a way to overclock it to 800 (impossible btw but this is just a what if kind of statement) since the processor can not handle 800 it would just overheat the thing and cause crashes.
Also, on a side note, this should not be in the Development section. This should be in general or Q&A
This belongs in Q&A for future reference.
CM8 will be next, obviously. It will be based on Ice Cream Sandwich, so no, it won't be in development until ICS is released to AOSP so that the CM team can start using that code. 2.3.5 is an update coming out soon for the Nexus S 4G that fixes wifi and network speed, as well as adding more secure NFC for Google Wallet. It won't really affect us when it is merged into CM7. ICS is expected to be Android 4.0, but it could be 3.5 if Google decides.
There is a kernel that goes over 800Mhz, but anything over 768Mhz can be unstable on some phones. I tried it and there were no real performance gains, but battery life was a lot worse. Performance was actually worse at the highest CPU clock, in my experience. Just stick with 768Mhz. It's stable and chances are that you can get even better performance at a lower clock. I get better battery and performance at 633Mhz. It all depends on each unique phone.
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Cyanogen 8 will not come out yet since will most likely be ice cream sandwich. I am not even sure is 2.3.5 will even come out and no the devs can not overclock this device to 800mhz because is 768 is the limit of the processor. Most people's phones do not even run that smoothly at 768 anyways. If somehow the dev found a way to overclock it to 800 (impossible btw but this is just a what if kind of statement) since the processor can not handle 800 it would just overheat the thing and cause crashes.
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I lol'd at this statement. Did you not read any of the posts above you?
When i began to post there were no posts yet. They must have got posted while i was typing. So seeing as the only post at the time was the op, then yes i did read the post(s) above mine.....
There is a kernel that goes over 800Mhz, but anything over 768Mhz can be unstable on some phones. I tried it and there were no real performance gains, but battery life was a lot worse. Performance was actually worse at the highest CPU clock, in my experience. Just stick with 768Mhz. It's stable and chances are that you can get even better performance at a lower clock. I get better battery and performance at 633Mhz. It all depends on each unique phone.
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I can confirm that the Godmode kernel was able to push some phones, such as mine, past 800Mhz. Although I had a faster processor speed, my battery would drain incredibly fast as well as overheat. Even though I never hit a bootloop with the kernel, the battery life, overheating, and loss of performance kept me away. Sacrificing too much for having a faster processor speed. Normally I overclock to about 729Mhz and have great battery life, speed and performance in conjunction with a min of 19Mhz and a smartass governor.
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I can confirm that the Godmode kernel was able to push some phones, such as mine, past 800Mhz. Although I had a faster processor speed, my battery would drain incredibly fast as well as overheat. Even though I never hit a bootloop with the kernel, the battery life, overheating, and loss of performance kept me away. Sacrificing too much for having a faster processor speed. Normally I overclock to about 729Mhz and have great battery life, speed and performance in conjunction with a min of 19Mhz and a smartass governor.
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Thanks. I am glad someone at least confirmed it. I never knew about the godmode kernel as ive only been here for a little bit. Sorry for misinformed post about their not being an 800mhz kernel. As I can see, i was wrong, but also I was correct in saying that the processor can not handle it....sometimes
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Thanks. I am glad someone at least confirmed it. I never knew about the godmode kernel as ive only been here for a little bit. Sorry for misinformed post about their not being an 800mhz kernel. As I can see, i was wrong, but also I was correct in saying that the processor can not handle it....sometimes
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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For some reason my phone never works well with higher clock speeds no matter what rom or kernel i use. I get my best results at 710-352 performance.
In before bierce gives birth over ANOTHER question being in the dev section
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For some reason my phone never works well with higher clock speeds no matter what rom or kernel i use. I get my best results at 710-352 performance.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've noticed is that newer Hero's that were sold with Eclair as opposed to the original Donut, when I bought mine, are not able to reach those higher processor speeds past 691Mhz.
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i bought mine at radio shack back in september and it was still on 1.5 and ive never been able to get over 768mhz without it freezing and bootlooping its different with every hero.
i stay at 352-691 ondemand and thats plenty fast for me
Mine was running 1.5 also and it will run fine at 768 but battery life suffers so I usually run at 352/710 and battery and performance are good (depends on rom kernel)
Where can I get the godmode kernel ....
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I actually got mine two weeks after it came out.....so i mean it could just be that this phone is dead now. I never had a refurb or anything. I got it wet once but it got repaired. I've only had this one the whole time. Do you think that is the issue?
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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Hey rubyknight,
just wondering why 19? Ive seen people do that but can the processor really ever do anything at 19? if so, doesnt it affect stuff like wake. Im trying it now just to see for myself. Ive been playing with a really high min value between 480 and 576 with the high at 748 and it actually doesnt only seems to affect battery life a little, both on the .29 and .35 kernels on jaybobs roms and on OMFGB.
Thanks
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Hey rubyknight,
just wondering why 19? Ive seen people do that but can the processor really ever do anything at 19? if so, doesnt it affect stuff like wake. Im trying it now just to see for myself. Ive been playing with a really high min value between 480 and 576 with the high at 748 and it actually doesnt only seems to affect battery life a little, both on the .29 and .35 kernels on jaybobs roms and on OMFGB.
Thanks
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It depends on the cpu governor that you use.
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It depends on the cpu governor that you use.
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so update, ive run it at 19/768 on demand all day and after 11hrs 13 min its at 60% thats not bad for my phone! and there was almost no performance difference. Just the slightest UI lag... this is on jaybobs 7/8 with the .29 kernel, with background data off. And my regular usage which is not a lot. but for me its good. i wish I had tried it ages ago.
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so update, ive run it at 19/768 on demand all day and after 11hrs 13 min its at 60% thats not bad for my phone! and there was almost no performance difference. Just the slightest UI lag... this is on jaybobs 7/8 with the .29 kernel, with background data off. And my regular usage which is not a lot. but for me its good. i wish I had tried it ages ago.
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I believe that you can set the ramp up frequency and that may help with the lag. Setcpu, advanced settings, I think?
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Hi guys, I'm new to the forums. Sorry if this post is in the wrong section!
I just picked up my HTC One, and I love it. I have noticed though, that gaming seems really off. I realize that the throttle kicks in at 40c but my device still has extremely subpar gameply lag when the device is cool. With no programs running in the background, games like Jetpack Joyride have a frame "jump" ever 3 seconds or so, making it unplayable. Gravity Guy runs at about 10 frames per second, and Final Fantasy III has the same frame "jump" as Jetpack Joyride. Other games I've tried run very choppy / jumpy as well. Again, I am fully stock, and I am willing to root if I can't find a solution elsewhere. Again, no other programs are running. I have turned auto-sync off. I'm on Verizon, so the power-saver mode isn't even there, so it's not turned on. Any suggestions at all will be HIGHLY appreciated! I love this phone...it is wonderful in everyway, but gaming should be buttery smooth.
The only thing I can think of is that a lot of games are optimized to run on one core...
Can rooting fix this problem? Please let me know if you either have the same issue I have, or if you have a possible solution. This is my second HTC One, as the first one had dust under the screen. Both devices had the same issue with gaming.
Thank you so much in advance!
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Maybe you should try a custom kernel and try to tweak the cpu governor and gpu governor a bit. For gaming you shouldn't need to overclock the htc one but to force to jump at higher frequencies more often.Go into cpu governor and change up threshold to 65 or lower and maybe you should try the gpu simple governor as well to see if there is any difference. I recommend using a tweak app like trickster mod for this.
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Maybe you should try a custom kernel and try to tweak the cpu governor and gpu governor a bit. For gaming you shouldn't need to overclock the htc one but to force to jump at higher frequencies more often.Go into cpu governor and change up threshold to 65 or lower and maybe you should try the gpu simple governor as well to see if there is any difference. I recommend using a tweak app like trickster mod for this.
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I'm a complete noob when it comes to kernels. I am tempted to return the phone and trade it in for a GS4. I shouldn't have to go to this trouble to fix this horrible lag on such a high-end phone. Any ideas? Can someone give me a link to a detailed / easy to follow process on rooting / changing throttle threshold.
I'm not new to flashing etc but i'd advise not to do it with this phone as it avoids your warranty, i'm also about to swap my phone for the 4th time.
Mine lags too on games like asphalt 8, GTA etc.
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I'm not new to flashing etc but i'd advise not to do it with this phone as it avoids your warranty, i'm also about to swap my phone for the 4th time.
Mine lags too on games like asphalt 8, GTA etc.
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I'm not gonna swap it in unless i absolutely have to. Why are you swapping for the fourth time by the way?
When taking photos at night the blacks are purple/red.
I've had quality issues with every one i've had, one of them came out the box with the camera lens scratched.
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I'm not gonna swap it in unless i absolutely have to. Why are you swapping for the fourth time by the way?
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When taking photos at night the blacks are purple/red.
I've had quality issues with every one i've had, one of them came out the box with the camera lens scratched.
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Sorry to hear that. Have you had game lag? I am just wondering if some games are not optimized for the resolution of the HTC One at 1080p...
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Sorry to hear that. Have you had game lag? I am just wondering if some games are not optimized for the resolution of the HTC One at 1080p...
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could be that they are not optimized, some of the games i had on the lowest settings and felt lag. i won't be overclocking this (gets too hot as it is)
you can have a look at this (under the tips for non rooted users)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287094
Greetings,
This driver is obtained from Qualcomm's 07 Aug 14 drivers for "Qualcomm Adreno 3xx GPU on Nexus 4, 5 & 7 devices running Google Android 4.4.4 KitKat".
All credits go to the folks at Qualcomm for making the developer version of these lib files available for us to play with.
This is for testing purposes only. Please don't flash without backing up first and then start screaming if something happens to your phone!
The package only contains files for Adreno 300 and 330. I cooked the packaged to be flashable on our SM-G900T or any SM-G900 with the Adreno 330 chipset.
I'm on a "XtreStoLite_G900T_ROM_v1.3_UVU1BNG3" ROM, which is a super clean/slim version of the stock rom. This is also Android 4.4.2, my AnTuTu benchmark results dropped from 37400 to 35800 after flashing this package.
I'm requesting someone with a KitKat 4.4.4 ROM to test this and report back their before and after benchmarks.
I appreciate your feedback,
Hmm, interesting.. I'm only on 4.4.2 or I would help out..
Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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And this means....... I'm sorry but I don't understand the purpose... Is this supposed to make Tw snappier?
Thanks in advance!
It is updating the video (graphics) drivers. It probably improves the touchWiz performance as well (don't have evidence to support this), but what i noticed was a huge performace increase in the 3D graphics score. This will make games run alot smooter and more efficiently.
To clarify, this file resembles how your Mac/PC has a video card with say NViDIA or ATi video cards and they have their own driver releases. Our phones graphic chipset is designed by Qualcomm and it gets its own drivers as well. Hope I answered your question, and didn't make it worse!
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
Tried flashing the update and ran into a couple random fcs for a few apps. Nothing device-breaking or anything, but I also didn't notice any real difference in performance or framerate in games. But I do appreciate you posting this, I'm always up for trying a little experimentation on my device to find something new. Thanks man.
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In order to get any real "TouchWiz/Nova/Apex/etc" performance increase from it you'd have to flash this, then venture into Developer's Options and enable Force GPU rendering and Disable Hardware Overlays. And even then our device is so performance driven that you likely would likely not even realize the difference other than giving the CPU a break for a few cycles and possibly seeing a battery life increase depending on whether the CPU or GPU pulls more juice. These drivers are largely made to increase the 3D performance of your device when gaming and while it wasn't meant for us I'm glad to see someone took the time to let us benefit from it.
I'm going to flash it on an NG4 (4.4.2) release and see how it holds up to GPU rendering no hardware overlays. I don't game so if you want an objective test on that someone will have to pick up my slack. I'll report back when I know if it truly impacts it.
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Anything?
Thanks in advance!
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Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
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Don't worry, I didn't forget about you. It takes a few days to really put it through its paces. But here is what you want to know: It works in 4.4.2 Touchwiz (Alliance Rom B4 for me)
Performance Increase in ROM function and control with "Turn Off Hardware Overlays" and Force GPU Rendering: Check
So I tested this by underclocking my CPU to the point where lag was perceivable in things likes app launching, keyboard typing, app draw opening, etc. I dropped it down to about 1200Mhz on all cores and then disabled HW Overlays. It was night and day. After the GPU took over rendering my CPU clock speed hardly moved all of the items previously lagging went right back to being fluid.
So does it help with Rendering in the ROMs? Yes, it definitely can.
The other concern people have is with battery life that goes with GPU rendering and the claims are that the GPU uses more power than the GPU. In my preliminary testing, what I noticed was lower overall CPU temps while Hardware Overlays was off, lower CPU clock speeds since it didn't need to render apps, and a small decrease in battery life.
In the power draw category I need more time with BetterBatteryStats and I need to adjust some variables. I want to underclock the GPU to the point of perceivable lag (if that is possible) and then I want to adjust the governor with KTweaker and see if I can't get better battery life. I will simultaneously lower CPU speeds to keep my core temperatures down and keep the battery cool. If these things are successful and battery life is interchangeable between the two, I may run the GPU full time for rendering the ROM. Keep in mind though, only custom kernels allow this kind of tweaking. If you use a stock ROM you are stuck with CPU and GPU clock speeds where they are so battery will drain faster.
Give me about a week to test my theory on this and see if I can find an equilibrium for CPU and GPU temperature and speed. I'll post the profile I used with KTweaker when I have my results. Until then, if you want to help and find your own settings and post them here along with battery life that would be awesome.
Edit: For what it is worth, to test application launch speeds and UI fluidity with the GPU I completely turned off system animations, I set Nova Launcher Animations Speed to Faster than light and scroll speed to "Fast" (personal preference). I got the same, or better response time using the GPU to render the UI.
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Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
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Thanks for the detailed response, can I flash this over a cm rom or only "touch wiz" and/or after I updated/flash this no Mauer what rom I flash will it stay. ..?
Thanks in advance! I'm still a bit confused...
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I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
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I haven't tried it on CM yet, I'm about to flash the 09/04 build of CM11 by Albinoman with KT's kernel. But I won't flash these drivers prior to running the build 24 hours or so to make sure there aren't bugs that existed before flashing the files. So, if you've been running CM for awhile and want to test this build just nandroid, flash, and report any issues.
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Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
And once I flash this, can I go back or will it erase the update once I flash a different rom?
Thanks in advance!!
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Ooo that sounds like a killer combo cm + kt kernel + adreno update = project slip n slide lol nah but I'm really curious of what results you might get [emoji4]
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I'll keep you posted. I wasn't impressed overall with it's performance in Touchwiz on battery life with the CPU underclocked, so I am branching out to a more AOSP-like build. I'll keep you posted to what I find out.
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Turned out the 3D performance on antutu version 5 with this driver puts our phone one head and shoulder above everyone else!
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This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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This maybe off topic, but does this works on other devices like Z2 or HTC M8 using the same GPU?
43718 before
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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All I did was reboot into recovery, flash the ZIP and then run the test, same clock speed etc..
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Lower score, what about gaming?
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This can't be right because right now I haven't flashed the driver update and look at My score
Now imagine that's without kt kernel just stock kernel, I'm on xtralite 3.5a t-mobile, so what if I flashed the kt kernel AAAAND the adreno update.... would my phone explode?!?!
I'm thinking twice now whether I should flash thisor not. ..
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You have a good point. I think antutu v5 also rescaled their scoring system. Anyway, post your new score if you decided you want to give it a shot.
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You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
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You guys make me sad. Benchmarks are not now, nor will they ever be, an acceptable means for telling you how capable your device is. Your scores in AnTuTu are about as capable of telling you your phone's speed as your ESN is at telling people who your phone belongs to. It is just arbitrary numbers that will fluctuate up and down based on the slightest inconsistencies.
Drivers, just like in Windows/Linux/Mac, are meant to optimize the performance of your hardware. That's it. This driver likely optimizes the GPU cycles to make it more efficient and lower heat output while performing better in games. You know why hardware review sites start out with benchmarks saying what it can do in a perfect world but still ends the review by telling you it gets 75 FPS in Borderlands 2? They do that because while synthetic tests are nice, what would be the point if our games don't play better? It is the same concept here.
I'm begging you, uninstall AnTuTu, re-install your favorite mobile game and just base performance off of whether it plays better or not.
Side Note: Drivers didn't appear to do anything in AOSP CM11 when I gave it a try. Sorry I am so late on reporting in, college takes up a lot of my time. Also, using the GPU to draw your applications does eat more battery whether you use these drivers or not. So there is no marked improvement from lowering CPU speed and using GPU only to render.
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I figured since the OP stated he got less points in Antutu, I would go ahead and use the same app and test to compare...
F*ck me right?
Regardless, I don't notice anything different either, my stats are in the sig.
Hello guys I got some huge problems here.
I recently switched from my Z2 to the Z3+ and actually like the phone but the overheating is insane and especially kills Pokemon Go through CPU throttling, which runs smoothly on my old Z2 .
So far I am on 253, cleaned it up and tried a self modified and the zach beta9 Kernel and and runs quite bad on both. Is heating a lesser issue of 224? I actually do not want to reflash the whole system to 224 just to find out it doesn't get better.
Also is there a way to undervolt/underclock? I can change settings in Kernel Aduitor but I have the feeling the phone doesn't really care.
Help much appreciated - thanks!
Try Zach beta 8 kernel. Limit max cpu frequency by kernel auditor.
Still it's only your Goodluck if your device cools down. It's a bitter truth about this model.
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Try Zach beta 8 kernel. Limit max cpu frequency by kernel auditor.
Still it's only your Goodluck if your device cools down. It's a bitter truth about this model.
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Do you have a clue whether 224 or 256 make a difference?
I will try beta8 and report back.
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Do you have a clue whether 224 or 256 make a difference?
I will try beta8 and report back.
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no there was no thermal improvements between these builds, dont flash your system back
but do underclock and tell us the results!
Im also affected by your exact problem
Try this kernel, seems promising. I haven't tried it since it doesnt have twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m5z-kernel-t3421630/post67813517#post67813517
Edit: Today I have flashed 256, haven't found any improvement. As per my experience 256 haven't brought any noticable change.
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Thank you for the replies!
Tested zach beta8, didn't help. Now I am testing http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/orig-development/kernel-om5z-kernel-t3421630/ as suggested and if that doesn't help much also with http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/kill-overheating-flash-zip-t3421782.
And Stamina Mode helps at least a bit.
Statusreport: It always runs bad. But best at the moment with root patched Stock Kernel (253) and that underclocking zip. Although I think that underclocking doesn't really help at all.
Delvius said:
Statusreport: It always runs bad. But best at the moment with root patched Stock Kernel (253) and that underclocking zip. Although I think that underclocking doesn't really help at all.
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What are your temps? When does it start to throttle? Done any thermal-conf configuration to allow more heat?
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I know that @Trilliard has a very good and stable cpu governor where he has disabled two of the little and two of the big cores, this helps a lot if you underclock the remaining 4
Here are his files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/dont-custom-kernels-want-to-avoid-idle-t3409647
UPDATE: Added my edited files used to apply CPU tweaks (cores down clocked to 0.9 and 1.2ghz, two core disabled, tweaked cpu governor, power and others mods) and these files located in etc folder. Replace them and set correct permissions then reboot.
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What are your temps? When does it start to throttle? Done any thermal-conf configuration to allow more heat?
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I know that @Trilliard has a very good and stable cpu governor where he has disabled two of the little and two of the big cores, this helps a lot if you underclock the remaining 4
Here are his files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/dont-custom-kernels-want-to-avoid-idle-t3409647
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Actually I didn't know about this combination - I will try it thanks!
Do you know about a thermal-conf? Actually never tried one. The phone gets hot indeed but I still think there might be some space before it actually melts.
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Actually I didn't know about this combination - I will try it thanks!
Do you know about a thermal-conf? Actually never tried one. The phone gets hot indeed but I still think there might be some space before it actually melts.
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Thats what i thought as well i have my own here, its based on another persos post, but i dont remember where...
Anyways, his camera mod worked, but cpu throttle was not tampered with, and it caused a very unbalanced throttling... Ok yay i can use the camera linger and fluently, but when i exit the camera app, i cant use the phone couse its runnig at 348 mhz...
So i i did some modifications to it cpu never get under 840 for little cores, so your phones menues end web browsing are always safe from performance drops.
I made it to be able to play Pokemon go, and achieved a lot better resault than without any changes.. still prefer playing on my shield tablet, but if i dont have it around when theres a lot od pokestops nearby, then this will work for me.
While playing Pokemon go it does not go over 80 degrees, but using snapshat it can get to 85, so dont use snap for to long
Let me know if it worked for you!
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Thats what i thought as well i have my own here, its based on another persos post, but i dont remember where...
Anyways, his camera mod worked, but cpu throttle was not tampered with, and it caused a very unbalanced throttling... Ok yay i can use the camera linger and fluently, but when i exit the camera app, i cant use the phone couse its runnig at 348 mhz...
So i i did some modifications to it cpu never get under 840 for little cores, so your phones menues end web browsing are always safe from performance drops.
I made it to be able to play Pokemon go, and achieved a lot better resault than without any changes.. still prefer playing on my shield tablet, but if i dont have it around when theres a lot od pokestops nearby, then this will work for me.
While playing Pokemon go it does not go over 80 degrees, but using snapshat it can get to 85, so dont use snap for to long
Let me know if it worked for you!
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Oh nice! Thank you a lot! I will totally try it out directly when PTC comes back alive. X)
What kernel and governors do you use?
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Oh nice! Thank you a lot! I will totally try it out directly when PTC comes back alive. X)
What kernel and governors do you use?
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Im using stock kernel, may switch to another soon. Im using stock bcause of batterylife and idle power consumption
Im using the governor and cpu modifications in this post ; http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/dont-custom-kernels-want-to-avoid-idle-t3409647
Hmm. Still runs ****ty.
Can anyone give me a short guide how to edit thermal and governors?
According to my observations the phone gets hot and then cold. I think the throttle is more aggressive and needed and I want to make it less aggressive.
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I made my own modifications to the thermal engine. It is pretty bad for battery I guess but I had a very good expierence playing Pokemon Go with it today. Yes the phone gets hot. Like it doesn't drop below 70°C while playing and regulary hits 80°C but it works good. No dark screen, no 0 CPUs downclocking. So far it's fine for me, maybe I get squeeze even more out of it.
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Update:
I made my own modifications to the thermal engine. It is pretty bad for battery I guess but I had a very good expierence playing Pokemon Go with it today. Yes the phone gets hot. Like it doesn't drop below 70°C while playing and regulary hits 80°C but it works good. No dark screen, no 0 CPUs downclocking. So far it's fine for me, maybe I get squeeze even more out of it.
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Done any other modifications to your file for a while? Or is it working good for you now? What's your SoT?
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Done any other modifications to your file for a while? Or is it working good for you now? What's your SoT?
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Still working good for me. Not sure if I can really squeeze out more and as long as it works at the moment I do not have a good motivation to try anything else.
No idea about SoT. Always running around with a powerbank. Probably bad, it is not designed for good battery life.
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Still working good for me. Not sure if I can really squeeze out more and as long as it works at the moment I do not have a good motivation to try anything else.
No idea about SoT. Always running around with a powerbank. Probably bad, it is not designed for good battery life.
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Allright thanks i might try your conf if i cant get mine to work like I want
In some games i get lag spike like gta san anders play on medium seatings and rawensword 2 i use game tuner but not help . how to increase performance for gaming maybe custom kernel or overcloking if its possible for it or some kind programs I'm new in android staff.
If the graphics on the 815 don't work for you then surely don't replace it with an 813/819. The GPU is supposed to be better on the one you have.
I don't think these are gaming tablets really. I don't know any that are but that's not my thing. They do have more RAM and better screens than most other tablets.
any other option ?
Maybe Apple is better for gaming? I really don't know. Hopefully a clueful individual will answer you. I am too new to the whole tablet world to know much.
i find gltools maybe its improve performance i see a lot of video of it . but its need root access? who have experience from it ?
I guess you could change the thread title and perhaps get more help.
bump any suggestion? i need to improve performance for some games not to much a bit game now rawensword runs 20 fps sometime drops to 15 in fights :/ i like to boost to 30 fps any suggestion i try different programs but no luck :/
The issue is simple. The Exynos version throttles like mad with continuous high usage (games and video SW rendering). And you can do nothing about it. From what I read, the snapdragon version doesn't throttle as bad/at all. I recommend switching to android 6 if you haven't done that already, as it increases the performance by a little bit, as well as setting the resolution in those heavier game to 50% and force capping the frame rate to 30.
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The issue is simple. The Exynos version throttles like mad with continuous high usage (games and video SW rendering). And you can do nothing about it. From what I read, the snapdragon version doesn't throttle as bad/at all. I recommend switching to android 6 if you haven't done that already, as it increases the performance by a little bit, as well as setting the resolution in those heavier game to 50% and force capping the frame rate to 30.
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I've had the exact opposite experience.
The snapdragon version lags with many games while the exynos version played all these games smoothly...
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It's certainly peculiar. I couldn't play Asphalt 8 for too long without setting the resolution all the way down to 50%(1024x768). At 1080p it'd start lagging really bad on me in about 3-4 minutes at best. That doesn't mean it doesn't have an adequate overall performance, it's flying, but anything as heavy as asphalt or worse would bring it to its knees.
strange in asphalt 8 i have no lag run rely smoothly only san andres and rawensword run not what great san andres 25~28 medium graphic rawensword 22 in fight with max distance other setting cant change.
For 5.1 I was using optimal rom found in development section. He also made a kernel you could over clock with synapse support found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/nn-kernel-lp-t701-t3309570.com With synapse you can force the gpu to over clock along with cpu. Download synapse from market. In setting developer options turn off hardware overlays ticking that on will use the gpu for rendering. Off (default) cpu. At least that is my understanding. Some games work better with it on others off. Minecraft on I got 60fps at 2nd highest view distance using customers textures. Yet terraria would stutter on certain conditions but never a problem with it turned off. Warning though it will make your device hot where the cpu is. I've got no idea how well you're games will play as I have never played them. I did get a noticeable difference from stock vs the above. So maybe it's an option worth trying.
Hm thx for advise but i read all posts but i don't see anything say it's for 6.0 marshmallow and my it's sm-t815 lite version i only see 810? Maybe its work for my device ?
Might be too different. Not sure.
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/676f391aa
You have mobile data and I just have WiFi. Everything else seemed the same.
On my xoom it was from Verizon I flashed WiFi only rom and kernels. Lost mobile data but all was fine. As long as the kernal matched the rom. Worse case recover backup or Odin MM back on it. Just use the kernel with a 5.1 810 rom plus whatever you need to root it. I used that kernel with a few different romps but never cm since that's liable to be experimental still on my death bed. So it felt compatible with any 810 rom. If I was you and didn't mind losing cellular data I would treat it as an 810. Maybe do a bit more research and make sure they really are similar.
its same i see ok but one question if i flash this kernel how much i can improve performance like gta san andres can i play max at normal frame rate become on max now i have 17~21 fps i ask it become i was thinking its wort or not don't want to lose warranty
If you don't want to lose warranty then stock it is. That's my advise. I highly doubt you would break it but still if you dropped it in get it. You want that available. I've seen root options that don't trip Knox but I didn't care to research because I didn't have a warranty. I knew using ct auto root would void warrenty (method I used) before doing it. Search for different rooting options to 810.
I get not wanting to void warranty but if you're over clocking it, rooting, accept it as a trade off. You replied before I edited my last post so maybe reread. They are slightly different.
um when how about performance in gaming ? there i mention it i read it make 2.0ghz for 4 core and for others 1.5 or 1.6 it make huge boost in game or just small i rely care about it. ?
That sounds right. And the gpu goes up to 700hz. I think stock is 600. I don't play the games you are so can't say for sure performance but it was noticeable for me. I set both cpu min 1,000 max whatever max it allowed like you mentioned. So if it needed cpu it was there. Gpu I did max because there is a noticeable difference going from 600 to 650 to 700. Put the min as the max. Then toggle on turn off hardware overlays. Other games preferred the opposite. Max cpu for both and min close to max, whatever for gpu and no toggle for turn off hardware overlays.
Don't do max cpu and max Gpu. To much heat without any improvement. Pick one or the other as max, other one able to if needed. Here is what I ended up with.
Mine craft liked the first option. Not sure what it was playing at before over clocking. Maybe 30-40 fps while flying in creative mode. Got up to 60 fps no stuttering unless I was at a huge super dense forest biome where you couldn't see the ground. Probably used 25% per hour. I know mine craft doesn't sound like much but I had fancy on (transparent leaves), 128bit textures, 2nd highest view (it was far), and flying really fast in creative. Even bought a controller because of it. Though it actualy plays and feels better without. To wierd.
Terraria preferred all cpu so second option. Again you think but it's 2d. It isn't optimized by any means. Even on pc that game uses more then one would believe. I played at 60 fps with no slowdowns on second option. Without over clock it would stutter fairly easily vs completly smooth. It felt like whoever programed the cpu made sure they never gave enough power at any given time as a cruel joke. With synapse I could set the min as max and over clock it.
All I can say in the end it is noticable. It was enough to get 60fps. For a 2d game, it wasn't worth playing unless it was so. Download terraria dig a bit underground, get some lighting going and some enemies. Notice the wonderful stutter and ask why, it's 2d. Then you can decide if that vs 60 fps is worth the void warrenty and possibly broken device achieving it.
can y try gta san andres on max with overclock your system ? i'm rely curios
No.
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