So to help us determine future mod capabilities such as custom recovery's and rom's any word if the at&t note 3 has an unlocked bootloader?... Only those with it in hand would be able to answer this question with the proper tools.
I don't have one in my hand but I can promise you the bootloader is locked.
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
As of right now, no one knows.
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Why now I wonder? All they achieve by locking the bootloader is potentially losing my business to another carrier...
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Sukiaki96 said:
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
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Look at the S4, still no bootloader unlock. If you want a GN3 unlocked bootloader your best option is to buy it unlocked.
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Look at the S4, still no bootloader unlock. If you want a GN3 unlocked bootloader your best option is to buy it unlocked.
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Just for my clarification, how are people installing a custom recovery and roms on the AT&T S4 if bootloader is locked? Couldn't we do the same on the AT&T N3? Thanks
The bootloader is unlocked on all Canadian versions...... Sorry to the Americans out there.. Lol. I love Canada
vince2398 said:
Just for my clarification, how are people installing a custom recovery and roms on the AT&T S4 if bootloader is locked? Couldn't we do the same on the AT&T N3? Thanks
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they are using safestrap recovery ..
Eventually, someone will figure out an exploit. The S4 uses and exploit called Loki. Since the Note 3 was just release it will be a while before anyone figure out an exploit.
I have one in hand but I dont know what tools to use to see if the bootloader is locked. Tell how to check and I will as long as it doesnt brick my device.
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Eventually, someone will figure out an exploit. The S4 uses and exploit called Loki. Since the Note 3 was just release it will be a while before anyone figure out an exploit.
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Dont think loki works with the newer firmware from att.
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Dont think loki works with the newer firmware from att.
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It worked for latest firmware of LG G2 from ATT
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It worked for latest firmware of LG G2 from ATT
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I was referring to S4
Safestrqap is the newest exploit for the s4, but Someone will figure out an exploit for the locked bootlaoder for this Note 3. I am due for an upgrade, I just trying to decide on the Note 3 or S4.
What do you have now? I have htc One and I'm getting Note 3 for a change. I'm going to sell my Nexus 7 tablet too since I'm hoping with Note it won't be needed.
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Safestrqap is the newest exploit for the s4, but Someone will figure out an exploit for the locked bootlaoder for this Note 3. I am due for an upgrade, I just trying to decide on the Note 3 or S4.
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I suggest Note 3 because of the bigger battery, snapdragon 800 and the bigger screen.
With this locked bootloader you can still root the phone right? I don't really care about anything else except for 1. Root, and 2. Adaway. These are the only 2 things I need on my phone. Thanks
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With this locked bootloader you can still root the phone right? I don't really care about anything else except for 1. Root, and 2. Adaway. These are the only 2 things I need on my phone. Thanks
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As of now, there is no root method for the AT&T variant that I know of!
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Tomorrow ill get the Canadian Note 3, is there a way to check for a locked bootloader?
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I have a friend with an AT&T Moto X. He is selling it and offered me a good deal on it. It is already unlocked (I know I may need to unlock it again if I change roms and such but I assume his code may carry over and I don't mind buying an unlock code if needed). I am very interested in the phone but would prefer to have the official stock T-Mobile rom on the phone. I can install a custom bootloader if necessary, but I cannot find an official T-Mobile rom for the phone. Does anyone know where I could find the official stock T-Mobile rom or know how I can switch it to the T-Mobile rom from the AT&T rom? Thanks
If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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I thought I should stay unlocked. I had read a few posts from people suggesting it might have to be redone though, so I wasn't sure. So It is stuck with the AT&T rom for good then I presume? The only reason I would have a desire to change the rom would be to take advantage of a perticular T-Mobile app, which I can get on the phone anyways. Would there be any notable problems that anyone knows of with using an unlocked AT&T Moto X on T-mobile?
I am using one right now and it works fine. The only possible issue is if you're in an area that hasn't had a network refarm. In those areas, you can only get 2g instead of 3g. It has the same LTE coverage either way.
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If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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You can buy the boot loader unlock code from that Chinese guy.
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If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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My AT&T Moto X is bootloader unlocked. Cost me $40 to get the code. There's quite a few threads being posted about it. I'm using it on T-Mobile right now. Once it is carrier unlocked, it stays that way. Same with the bootloader. I get LTE on T-Mobile.
It's well worth the $40 to unlock the bootloader. You can root, install roms, and pretty much do whatever you want to your phone.
Side note: I don't think there is an official T-Mobile rom since the T-Mobile version is the unlocked GSM version.
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My AT&T Moto X is bootloader unlocked. Cost me $40 to get the code. There's quite a few threads being posted about it. I'm using it on T-Mobile right now. Once it is carrier unlocked, it stays that way. Same with the bootloader. I get LTE on T-Mobile.
It's well worth the $40 to unlock the bootloader. You can root, install roms, and pretty much do whatever you want to your phone.
Side note: I don't think there is an official T-Mobile rom since the T-Mobile version is the unlocked GSM version.
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This is the factory Dev images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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This is the factory Dev images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Okay? I was answering the OP's inquiry about a stock T-Mobile rom, and like I said, there isn't a T-Mobile rom since it's a gsm unlocked version. I don't know why you quoted me with dev images?
I read where people have flashed this to att phones and gotten it to work. Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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I read where people have flashed this to att phones and gotten it to work. Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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Oh cool. I didn't mean to come off as a jerk. If I did, I apologize. Was confused why you quoted me with that lol.
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If it is not on 4.4.2 already, you can root it and use a SafeStrap ROM. If it's on 4.4.2 already, you're out of luck. I don't think AT&T has sent out the update already, so it probably doesn't have 4.4.2.
I'm not familiar with the Moto x xt1053 at all, I've been doing some searching using tapatalk so it's not the easiest.
What I'm trying to figure out is if there's a full root method and a tether app that runs off of my phone data rather than my hotspot plan. Also if there's anything else I should know I'm getting myself into. Thank you in advance.
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I'm not familiar with the Moto x xt1053 at all, I've been doing some searching using tapatalk so it's not the easiest.
What I'm trying to figure out is if there's a full root method and a tether app that runs off of my phone data rather than my hotspot plan. Also if there's anything else I should know I'm getting myself into. Thank you in advance.
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The XT1053 is either the GSM Developer Edition or the GSM "unlocked" (includes T-Mobile SIM) from Moto Maker.
You can unlock the bootloader on it via Motorola's web site, but unless you have the Developer Edition, you void your warranty. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you can root any rom version on there.
IF you get the Non-Dev Edition and do not want to unlocked (so you keep your warranty), then you have to worry about what rom is on your phone. If it already has 4.4.2 installed, you can't root it with a locked bootloader. If you have 4.4 or lower, you can root, but do NOT take the update to 4.4.2. For more details see what I've already typed over in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/-t2702982
As for tethering, there are various options once you root depending on your carrier.
Thank you got the info! How do I know if it's the dev edition or not? If it's already on 4.4.2 can I downgrade like I would using Odin with my Samsung?
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Thank you got the info! How do I know if it's the dev edition or not? If it's already on 4.4.2 can I downgrade like I would using Odin with my Samsung?
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Dev edition is black face, woven white back, silver accents (button/camera ring) and says "Developer Edition" on the back. "GSM Unlocked' wont say Dev Edition on back, and can be black or other color backs.
as for downgrade, please take the time and use the LINK I supplied, its answered over there.
Awesome, thank you again. This one is a white front and a blue back with green camera ring, trading my lte s3 for it.
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Awesome, thank you again. This one is a white front and a blue back with green camera ring, trading my lte s3 for it.
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Its not dev edition. Then again, the warranty is non-transferrable... so unless the person you are getting it from is a friend/family member who could send it for warranty repair later, the warranty wouldn't apply to you so unlocking wouldn't impact you.
I'm not worried about a warranty at all. So basically, from what I gather, I can root no matter what, but if it's on 4.4.2 I have to unlock the bootloader first?
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I'm not worried about a warranty at all. So basically, from what I gather, I can root no matter what, but if it's on 4.4.2 I have to unlock the bootloader first?
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Yup.. as said in the other thread, if its on 4.4 (or lower), you can use SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection.
however, unlocking the bootloader & rooting is way way easier.
Awesome, I read it, just wanted to make sure I got it right. I appreciate the help!
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I also need to make sure it's not a clone...
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if your interested in root check out my thread here. it has all the guides you would need to unlocked bootloader, root phone and so forth. enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
That was actually very quick and painless. I unlocked the bootloader and it was just like "hey, how's some root". I was like sure, and it was just rooted. Pretty sweet.
Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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Odin root may or may not be possible on the ATT variant, only time will tell.
It time to return s5
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I saw a post from Chainfire indicating he was releasing auto-roots for a bunch of variants today(he didn't mention which ones but I've got my fingers crossed). Apparently the current bottleneck is Sammy's crappy d/l servers.
Looks like no dice with Chainfire, at least for now. https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/JVxv5298wdU
Apparently he needs the recovery extracted from the firmware. I checked sammobile.com for our firmware and they haven't put it out yet. I sure hope they do.
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Looks like no dice with Chainfire, at least for now. https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/JVxv5298wdU
Apparently he needs the recovery extracted from the firmware. I checked sammobile.com for our firmware and they haven't put it out yet. I sure hope they do.
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Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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You can't usually dump the recovery partition without having root...usually a custom recovery is needed...hence he needs the firmware which contains the recovery partition.
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Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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Chainfire has already said more than once that it can't be dumped.
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Just curious if we will be able to root without a unlocked bootloader. With other devices I don't recall that being an issue. But then again this is the first one I've had that's been this locked down.
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Just curious if we will be able to root without a unlocked bootloader. With other devices I don't recall that being an issue. But then again this is the first one I've had that's been this locked down.
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CF root likely won't work if the ATT BL is locked, but the only definitive way to check is to get the firmware and extract the recovery, send it to CF and have him package something up and then have someone flash with Odin, if the BL is locked, then it will either fail to flash, fail to boot, or worse, also once you flash anything not deemed official you trip the knox warranty flag and your without a warranty..
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CF root likely won't work if the ATT BL is locked, but the only definitive way to check is to get the firmware and extract the recovery, send it to CF and have him package something up and then have someone flash with Odin, if the BL is locked, then it will either fail to flash, fail to boot, or worse, also once you flash anything not deemed official you trip the knox warranty flag and your without a warranty..
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The only thing that worries me is the worse part. Really don't care about warranty. Just don't want a brick
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I'm pretty sure root will break some things. I was able to sign up for Isis and get the $50 credit, but my wife wasn't able since her Note 3 is rooted. Google Wallet might still work though. Ready to root though.
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I'm pretty sure root will break some things. I was able to sign up for Isis and get the $50 credit, but my wife wasn't able since her Note 3 is rooted. Google Wallet might still work though. Ready to root though.
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Do you have xposed framework installed on her note 3? If so use rootcloak and your problem is solved.
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Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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most likely.
This is the plague we're not wanting.....buckle up!
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will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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Ive been a HTC guy. new to Samsung and I have the at&t version, I want to return it and get T mobile again. I just wanted to know if this was going to be for nothing, after the lollipop update.
It's been so mush fun hex editing, s-off and all that stuff. and if it will continue after the update. from what I've read they are changing the way the kernel boots up.
thanks for the help.
again I am just a 55 year old fart who wants to customize my $700.00 phone the way I want not at&t's way.
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T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
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there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
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if I am not mistaken if we are rooted we can block the OTA updates. is this correct?
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
Great choice. T-Mobile is the way to go. Welcome.
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ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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Wrap it in aluminum foil. J/k...just be extra careful not to have quick fingers when and if you do receive an Ota.
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I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
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In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
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In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
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I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.
Well I returned the AT&T version and brought home a t mobile note 4.
What are your thoughts about taking the t mobile update. Can we still root and unlock the bootloader if we take the update
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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its all good, super easy to root, to flash TWRP, and to flash a new rom...there are about 5 or 6 already, and they all run really well!
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Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
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Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
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could you tell me what wanam please
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Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
KeithGS said:
Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
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the same.. wont have it and we need root first lol
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So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
Correct. It is likely that this version with the locked boot loader won't get custom roms any time soon, if ever.
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So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
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Correct. All I need is just root and I will be fine.
Samsung could release a dev edition but you will never see official upgrades or firmware releases on a dev edition.
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