Will the S6 have the same restrictions as the S5 (bootloader) - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.

KeithGS said:
Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
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the same.. wont have it and we need root first lol
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So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)

Correct. It is likely that this version with the locked boot loader won't get custom roms any time soon, if ever.

KeithGS said:
So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
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Correct. All I need is just root and I will be fine.
Samsung could release a dev edition but you will never see official upgrades or firmware releases on a dev edition.
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[Q] Ultimate Question - Unlocked Bootloader?

So to help us determine future mod capabilities such as custom recovery's and rom's any word if the at&t note 3 has an unlocked bootloader?... Only those with it in hand would be able to answer this question with the proper tools.
I don't have one in my hand but I can promise you the bootloader is locked.
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
As of right now, no one knows.
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Why now I wonder? All they achieve by locking the bootloader is potentially losing my business to another carrier...
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Sukiaki96 said:
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
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Look at the S4, still no bootloader unlock. If you want a GN3 unlocked bootloader your best option is to buy it unlocked.
CrashTestDroid said:
Look at the S4, still no bootloader unlock. If you want a GN3 unlocked bootloader your best option is to buy it unlocked.
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Just for my clarification, how are people installing a custom recovery and roms on the AT&T S4 if bootloader is locked? Couldn't we do the same on the AT&T N3? Thanks
The bootloader is unlocked on all Canadian versions...... Sorry to the Americans out there.. Lol. I love Canada
vince2398 said:
Just for my clarification, how are people installing a custom recovery and roms on the AT&T S4 if bootloader is locked? Couldn't we do the same on the AT&T N3? Thanks
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they are using safestrap recovery ..
Eventually, someone will figure out an exploit. The S4 uses and exploit called Loki. Since the Note 3 was just release it will be a while before anyone figure out an exploit.
I have one in hand but I dont know what tools to use to see if the bootloader is locked. Tell how to check and I will as long as it doesnt brick my device.
mimart7 said:
Eventually, someone will figure out an exploit. The S4 uses and exploit called Loki. Since the Note 3 was just release it will be a while before anyone figure out an exploit.
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Dont think loki works with the newer firmware from att.
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aalupatti said:
Dont think loki works with the newer firmware from att.
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It worked for latest firmware of LG G2 from ATT
mehdi_s82 said:
It worked for latest firmware of LG G2 from ATT
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I was referring to S4
Safestrqap is the newest exploit for the s4, but Someone will figure out an exploit for the locked bootlaoder for this Note 3. I am due for an upgrade, I just trying to decide on the Note 3 or S4.
What do you have now? I have htc One and I'm getting Note 3 for a change. I'm going to sell my Nexus 7 tablet too since I'm hoping with Note it won't be needed.
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mimart7 said:
Safestrqap is the newest exploit for the s4, but Someone will figure out an exploit for the locked bootlaoder for this Note 3. I am due for an upgrade, I just trying to decide on the Note 3 or S4.
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I suggest Note 3 because of the bigger battery, snapdragon 800 and the bigger screen.
With this locked bootloader you can still root the phone right? I don't really care about anything else except for 1. Root, and 2. Adaway. These are the only 2 things I need on my phone. Thanks
JoJo2211 said:
With this locked bootloader you can still root the phone right? I don't really care about anything else except for 1. Root, and 2. Adaway. These are the only 2 things I need on my phone. Thanks
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As of now, there is no root method for the AT&T variant that I know of!
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Tomorrow ill get the Canadian Note 3, is there a way to check for a locked bootloader?
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[Q] Is there "one-click" rooting for 4.3 (.290) firmware?

So it seems there is not simple VROOT or Kingo Android ROOT style rooting available for those who don't want to unlock the boot loader.
Anyone came across anything similar that works?
I'm aware of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331 and the instruction in there, this is not quite the same as what I'm looking for.
Not yet.
I just want to ask this though. If unlocking doesn't break anything anymore why are you guys not willing to unlock.
On one side there are users who bash the manufacturers all year long just to get their devices unlocked, to no avail. Then some super awesome dev comes by with a Santa stick and pwns the bootloaders. (ex-AtrixHD user). And there are those who have unlockable bootloaders but don't want to unlock. I do not understand why really...This is my first unlockable phone. Unlocked my N7 2013 one month from purchase. Never have been happier.
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BreakShadow said:
Not yet.
I just want to ask this though. If unlocking doesn't break anything anymore why are you guys not willing to unlock.
On one side there are users who bash the manufacturers all year long just to get their devices unlocked, to no avail. Then some super awesome dev comes by with a Santa stick and pwns the bootloaders. (ex-AtrixHD user). And there are those who have unlockable bootloaders but don't want to unlock. I do not understand why really...This is my first unlockable phone. Unlocked my N7 2013 one month from purchase. Never have been happier.
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Simple pragmatism, the only thing I want is root access, no flushing any ROMs or anything of that nature
obender said:
Simple pragmatism, the only thing I want is root access, no flushing any ROMs or anything of that nature
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Okay. I'd like the same too just for App Ops/Greenify. I love stock. But there's no one click solution yet.
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BreakShadow said:
Okay. I'd like the same too just for App Ops/Greenify. I love stock. But there's no one click solution yet.
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By the way for those who want one click boot loader unlock here is one:
http://www.kingoapp.com/sony-bootloader-unlock.htm
didn't try it myself for the obvious reasons
obender said:
So it seems there is not simple VROOT or Kingo Android ROOT style rooting available for those who don't want to unlock the boot loader.
Anyone came across anything similar that works?
I'm aware of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331 and the instruction in there, this is not quite the same as what I'm looking for.
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obender said:
Simple pragmatism, the only thing I want is root access, no flushing any ROMs or anything of that nature
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Okay. I'd like the same too just for App Ops/Greenify. I love stock. But there's no one click solution yet.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988
Otherwise just downgrade to .257, then update back to .290 OTA
Some other helpful links:
http://techbeasts.com/2013/12/18/how-to-unlock-bootloader-of-sony-xperia-devices-guide/
Otherwise you'll be waiting a while
TagEHeuer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988
Otherwise just downgrade to .257, then update back to .290 OTA
Some other helpful links:
http://techbeasts.com/2013/12/18/how-to-unlock-bootloader-of-sony-xperia-devices-guide/
Otherwise you'll be waiting a while
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OTA to 290 is useless. You only get partial root and that means you don't have much to do.
Just2Cause said:
OTA to 290 is useless. You only get partial root and that means you don't have much to do.
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Agreed. It's better to flash a pre-rooted stock-ish ROM from the dev forum.
xasbo said:
Agreed. It's better to flash a pre-rooted stock-ish ROM from the dev forum.
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Useless, I already tried iHackers (pre-rooted stock-ish) on locked bootloader and got partial root access because Sony's RIC is in the kernel now. So whatever you do, you will only get partial root unless (somehow) you disable it. And currently there's no way to do it with a locked bootloader.
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are we likely to ever see a 1 click root for 4.3?????
4.4 Kitkat will be out soon, make sense to whoever makes these 1click roots to just wait for 4.4Kitkat.
i stuck with 4.2 for now. locked BL and nothing on 4.3 to get excited about. rooted.4.2 is better. ill happily wait for 4.4
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Useless, I already tried iHackers (pre-rooted stock-ish) on locked bootloader and got partial root access because Sony's RIC is in the kernel now. So whatever you do, you will only get partial root unless (somehow) you disable it. And currently there's no way to do it with a locked bootloader.
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Have a look at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49096314&postcount=16
Seems legit, but I have not tried it.

IS the galaxy s5 going to get root anytime soon?

Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
nbrent1007 said:
Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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Odin root may or may not be possible on the ATT variant, only time will tell.
It time to return s5
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I saw a post from Chainfire indicating he was releasing auto-roots for a bunch of variants today(he didn't mention which ones but I've got my fingers crossed). Apparently the current bottleneck is Sammy's crappy d/l servers.
Looks like no dice with Chainfire, at least for now. https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/JVxv5298wdU
Apparently he needs the recovery extracted from the firmware. I checked sammobile.com for our firmware and they haven't put it out yet. I sure hope they do.
johnnyutah22 said:
Looks like no dice with Chainfire, at least for now. https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/JVxv5298wdU
Apparently he needs the recovery extracted from the firmware. I checked sammobile.com for our firmware and they haven't put it out yet. I sure hope they do.
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Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
cciechad said:
Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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You can't usually dump the recovery partition without having root...usually a custom recovery is needed...hence he needs the firmware which contains the recovery partition.
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cciechad said:
Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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Chainfire has already said more than once that it can't be dumped.
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Just curious if we will be able to root without a unlocked bootloader. With other devices I don't recall that being an issue. But then again this is the first one I've had that's been this locked down.
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jayv81 said:
Just curious if we will be able to root without a unlocked bootloader. With other devices I don't recall that being an issue. But then again this is the first one I've had that's been this locked down.
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CF root likely won't work if the ATT BL is locked, but the only definitive way to check is to get the firmware and extract the recovery, send it to CF and have him package something up and then have someone flash with Odin, if the BL is locked, then it will either fail to flash, fail to boot, or worse, also once you flash anything not deemed official you trip the knox warranty flag and your without a warranty..
djkinetic said:
CF root likely won't work if the ATT BL is locked, but the only definitive way to check is to get the firmware and extract the recovery, send it to CF and have him package something up and then have someone flash with Odin, if the BL is locked, then it will either fail to flash, fail to boot, or worse, also once you flash anything not deemed official you trip the knox warranty flag and your without a warranty..
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The only thing that worries me is the worse part. Really don't care about warranty. Just don't want a brick
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I'm pretty sure root will break some things. I was able to sign up for Isis and get the $50 credit, but my wife wasn't able since her Note 3 is rooted. Google Wallet might still work though. Ready to root though.
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cerobles1 said:
I'm pretty sure root will break some things. I was able to sign up for Isis and get the $50 credit, but my wife wasn't able since her Note 3 is rooted. Google Wallet might still work though. Ready to root though.
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Do you have xposed framework installed on her note 3? If so use rootcloak and your problem is solved.
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nbrent1007 said:
Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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will lollipop update brake root

will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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most likely.
This is the plague we're not wanting.....buckle up!
K4get said:
will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
RiverCity.45 said:
T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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Ive been a HTC guy. new to Samsung and I have the at&t version, I want to return it and get T mobile again. I just wanted to know if this was going to be for nothing, after the lollipop update.
It's been so mush fun hex editing, s-off and all that stuff. and if it will continue after the update. from what I've read they are changing the way the kernel boots up.
thanks for the help.
again I am just a 55 year old fart who wants to customize my $700.00 phone the way I want not at&t's way.
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RiverCity.45 said:
T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
wase4711 said:
there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
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if I am not mistaken if we are rooted we can block the OTA updates. is this correct?
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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wase4711 said:
well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
Great choice. T-Mobile is the way to go. Welcome.
K4get said:
ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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Wrap it in aluminum foil. J/k...just be extra careful not to have quick fingers when and if you do receive an Ota.
hdad2 said:
I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
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In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
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In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
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I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.
Well I returned the AT&T version and brought home a t mobile note 4.
What are your thoughts about taking the t mobile update. Can we still root and unlock the bootloader if we take the update
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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its all good, super easy to root, to flash TWRP, and to flash a new rom...there are about 5 or 6 already, and they all run really well!
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Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
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Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
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could you tell me what wanam please
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Can the boooader be unlocked?

Hey, I have been out of the rooting game for some time, but I was wondering if this phone can be unlocked and flashed with something like cyanogenmod? I have done research but can't find anything conclusive. Thanks!
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ncvikingx97 said:
Hey, I have been out of the rooting game for some time, but I was wondering if this phone can be unlocked and flashed with something like cyanogenmod? I have done research but can't find anything conclusive. Thanks!
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I presume you are referring to the Samsung Galaxy S6 (SM-G920T)?
If so then yes you can flash SU and TWRP via Odin and install a compatible ROM through recovery.
That's because the bootloader is not locked. Or at least at the moment with 5.1.1
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Is this in regard to the T-Mobile model?
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Is this in regard to the T-Mobile model?
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Yes. The T-Mobile S6 variant (SM-G920T) does NOT have a locked a bootloader at present.
The S7 however does and the suspicion (though unfounded at the moment) is that once T-mobile releases the Marshmallow update for the S6 it may lock the bootloader. Thus, it is probably going to be a good idea to wait on taking the Marshmallow update as soon as it is available (if root is desirable).
So will any normal Roms available for the standard GSM s7 work with the T-Mobile model? Also, is installing twrp as simple as something like a Nexus? I haven't been in the ROM game for a while, thanks for the help guys
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So will any normal Roms available for the standard GSM s7 work with the T-Mobile model? Also, is installing twrp as simple as something like a Nexus? I haven't been in the ROM game for a while, thanks for the help guys
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There won't be any ROMs available for the S7 so long as the bootloader remains locked.
If you want to root your T-Mobile S6 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7W-3yo89UI
Sorry, I meant the s6, will I be able to install things such as cyanogenmod?
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Sorry, I meant the s6, will I be able to install things such as cyanogenmod?
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For the umpteenth time yes. You just need to make sure that whatever ROM you want to flash is compatible with the T-Mobile S6 variant (SM-G920T).
There is a T-Mobile Galaxy S6 Android Development forum here at XDA which will have a number of different ROMs to choose from as well as information and support for said ROMs.
Thanks man
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Yes. The T-Mobile S6 variant (SM-G920T) does NOT have a locked a bootloader at present.
The S7 however does and the suspicion (though unfounded at the moment) is that once T-mobile releases the Marshmallow update for the S6 it may lock the bootloader. Thus, it is probably going to be a good idea to wait on taking the Marshmallow update as soon as it is available (if root is desirable).
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Good suspicion. ..I thought of that right away myself thus why I returned my s7... The s6 with few tweaks is as nice in many aspects not all but suits my needs .
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androidddaaron said:
Good suspicion. ..I thought of that right away myself thus why I returned my s7... The s6 with few tweaks is as nice in many aspects not all but suits my needs .
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Yep. Really like my 64g S6 flat. And you are right, with a few tweaks it is a great device.

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