will lollipop update brake root - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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most likely.

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K4get said:
will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.

RiverCity.45 said:
T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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Ive been a HTC guy. new to Samsung and I have the at&t version, I want to return it and get T mobile again. I just wanted to know if this was going to be for nothing, after the lollipop update.
It's been so mush fun hex editing, s-off and all that stuff. and if it will continue after the update. from what I've read they are changing the way the kernel boots up.
thanks for the help.
again I am just a 55 year old fart who wants to customize my $700.00 phone the way I want not at&t's way.
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RiverCity.45 said:
T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely

wase4711 said:
there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
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if I am not mistaken if we are rooted we can block the OTA updates. is this correct?
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..

wase4711 said:
well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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wase4711 said:
well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?

Great choice. T-Mobile is the way to go. Welcome.
K4get said:
ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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Wrap it in aluminum foil. J/k...just be extra careful not to have quick fingers when and if you do receive an Ota.
hdad2 said:
I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
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In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.

RiverCity.45 said:
In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
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I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.

Well I returned the AT&T version and brought home a t mobile note 4.
What are your thoughts about taking the t mobile update. Can we still root and unlock the bootloader if we take the update
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..

wase4711 said:
t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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its all good, super easy to root, to flash TWRP, and to flash a new rom...there are about 5 or 6 already, and they all run really well!

K4get said:
Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.

dawheat said:
Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
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could you tell me what wanam please
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[Q] Kingo Android Root possible?

Theres a new one click root solution floating around called Kingo Android Root. The website states it works on all version up to & including 4.3. It also includes a good number of sammy devices in its supported list. Im wondering if it will work for the ATT note 3 which doesnt have a root solution yet. Im willing to guinea pig it when I get my device but was just wondering if anyone happened to try it on a different version?
Bump...im still waiting on mine but if anyones brave....
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Bladerunner1825us said:
Bump...im still waiting on mine but if anyones brave....
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If the bootloader is locked it isn't going to work until an exploit is found.
Looking into it on other forums its said to be working on several bootloader locked phones specifically the xperia z. I dont see how the bootloader would affect it as its not tryingnto install recovery or anything other then granting superuser access.
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This root method works on the S4 with locked boot loader. Of we can't get recovery at least root access for ROM tool box will be nice.
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REDFOCZ said:
This root method works on the S4 with locked boot loader. Of we can't get recovery at least root access for ROM tool box will be nice.
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Yea? Im on MF3 on my s4 with safestrap but really just running stock rooted cuz theres still some kernel bugs that need to be ironed out but if i can get it to root the note 3 ill be perfectly happy
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tried it, it gets blocked on the phone the knox notification gives a warning
blewis540 said:
tried it, it gets blocked on the phone the knox notification gives a warning
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I wonder if you can disable or force stop knox through the app manager and then try to do it. Hopefully mine gets here today so I can mess around with it. I live like 2 blocks away from an AT&T store if something goes wrong haha
I want to use the gameplayer to modify game!! Hope someone figure out method to root!
takki83 said:
I want to use the gameplayer to modify game!! Hope someone figure out method to root!
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lol same
nigerson said:
lol same
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Itll come soon enough. We have the best and brightest on these forums so im not worried at all.
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IS the galaxy s5 going to get root anytime soon?

Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
nbrent1007 said:
Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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Odin root may or may not be possible on the ATT variant, only time will tell.
It time to return s5
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I saw a post from Chainfire indicating he was releasing auto-roots for a bunch of variants today(he didn't mention which ones but I've got my fingers crossed). Apparently the current bottleneck is Sammy's crappy d/l servers.
Looks like no dice with Chainfire, at least for now. https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/JVxv5298wdU
Apparently he needs the recovery extracted from the firmware. I checked sammobile.com for our firmware and they haven't put it out yet. I sure hope they do.
johnnyutah22 said:
Looks like no dice with Chainfire, at least for now. https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/JVxv5298wdU
Apparently he needs the recovery extracted from the firmware. I checked sammobile.com for our firmware and they haven't put it out yet. I sure hope they do.
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Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
cciechad said:
Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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You can't usually dump the recovery partition without having root...usually a custom recovery is needed...hence he needs the firmware which contains the recovery partition.
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cciechad said:
Yeah thats the part I'm not following. Can't I pull this from the Phone with Odin and send it to him or does the dump function not work on the S5?
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Chainfire has already said more than once that it can't be dumped.
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Just curious if we will be able to root without a unlocked bootloader. With other devices I don't recall that being an issue. But then again this is the first one I've had that's been this locked down.
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jayv81 said:
Just curious if we will be able to root without a unlocked bootloader. With other devices I don't recall that being an issue. But then again this is the first one I've had that's been this locked down.
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CF root likely won't work if the ATT BL is locked, but the only definitive way to check is to get the firmware and extract the recovery, send it to CF and have him package something up and then have someone flash with Odin, if the BL is locked, then it will either fail to flash, fail to boot, or worse, also once you flash anything not deemed official you trip the knox warranty flag and your without a warranty..
djkinetic said:
CF root likely won't work if the ATT BL is locked, but the only definitive way to check is to get the firmware and extract the recovery, send it to CF and have him package something up and then have someone flash with Odin, if the BL is locked, then it will either fail to flash, fail to boot, or worse, also once you flash anything not deemed official you trip the knox warranty flag and your without a warranty..
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The only thing that worries me is the worse part. Really don't care about warranty. Just don't want a brick
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I'm pretty sure root will break some things. I was able to sign up for Isis and get the $50 credit, but my wife wasn't able since her Note 3 is rooted. Google Wallet might still work though. Ready to root though.
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cerobles1 said:
I'm pretty sure root will break some things. I was able to sign up for Isis and get the $50 credit, but my wife wasn't able since her Note 3 is rooted. Google Wallet might still work though. Ready to root though.
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Do you have xposed framework installed on her note 3? If so use rootcloak and your problem is solved.
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nbrent1007 said:
Is the galaxy s5 going to get root? If so how long? Can't wait to root this device!!
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question

I saw you can unroot in supersu. I was wondering if i unroot would i be able to factory reset with no probpems and would all bloatware return even though i removed them?
brezuno said:
I saw you can unroot in supersu. I was wondering if i unroot would i be able to factory reset with no probpems and would all bloatware return even though i removed them?
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No the bloatware will not return. You need to use the back to stock method. This will set the root checker back to zero and make the phone look like it's never been used.
I like my phones like I like my women.... flexible
justinswidebody said:
No the bloatware will not return. You need to use the back to stock method. This will set the root checker back to zero and make the phone look like it's never been used.
I like my phones like I like my women.... flexible
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What if I do a factory reset with a rooted device using stock AT&T firmware? It will brick?
My question goes because I'm gonna sell my device to a friend so I just want to leave it as it is, I just need to change Google account.
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Im starting not to like this phone lol.
motumbo said:
What if I do a factory reset with a rooted device using stock AT&T firmware? It will brick?
My question goes because I'm gonna sell my device to a friend so I just want to leave it as it is, I just need to change Google account.
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No. You can do a factory reset with a rooted g flex on any carriers firmware without issue(aside from losing all data). A factory reset won't unroot the device but I think you can do that through the superuser app itself.
brezuno said:
Im starting not to like this phone lol.
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I really liked the phone at first but I'm really sorry I bought it at this point. I miss my Sammy! I'm praying for loki and custom recovery:crying:
Yeah bro not being Abel to flash any roms right now and how this phone is right now got me bummed. At this point im willing to trade it for a note 3 or even the new htc one.
Guys. Honestly I've had all Sammy phones. And I've been rooting and modding and flashing for about 6 years. This is honestly the first phone I've never even had somewhat of an interest to root. I've read through the thread but right now there is no reason for me to root. Phone performs great. Looks great. Outstanding battery life. This phone is phenomenal AS IS. IMHO
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I feel you, i wouldnt.of traded my htc one if i knew that i couldnt really do amything with this phone lol. But like i say i.would like to try something different lol.
This just popped in my head. When we get kit kat (tmobile users) what if i unroot and do.the update what i get back the bloatware that i deleted since i am updating?
Kitkat update in UAE
I am from Dubai, UAE, I wanted know when i can have kitkat in my G flex?, is there is any way i can update to kikat?
brezuno said:
This just popped in my head. When we get kit kat (tmobile users) what if i unroot and do.the update what i get back the bloatware that i deleted since i am updating?
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You have to go back to stock for the update. I tried every way around that but it kept picking up on the root being tripped somehow.
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vinodpillai27 said:
I am from Dubai, UAE, I wanted know when i can have kitkat in my G flex?, is there is any way i can update to kikat?
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Didn't mean to thank you lol. It depends on which carrier you have. So far only the Korean and AT&T models have 4.4 kitkat
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Bootloader is unlockable again

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/16/motorola-bootloader-unlock-razr-hd-towelroot/
Haven't tried this myself (already unlocked)
Supposedly this method will work on kitkat 4.4.2, and will allow the use of motopocalypse
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Doing this tonight before moto patches it
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Can this be used on JB stock?
sherpajosh said:
Can this be used on JB stock?
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Nope. You'll have to update to 4.4.2 in order to perform the unlock
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Leraeniesh said:
Nope. You'll have to update to 4.4.2 in order to perform the unlock
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However, once unlocked on 4.4.2, you can freely downgrade back to 4.1.2 and have an unlocked bootloader as well
Coronado is dead said:
However, once unlocked on 4.4.2, you can freely downgrade back to 4.1.2 and have an unlocked bootloader as well
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Downgrading your security version will brick your device, so I wouldent suggest it.
However, you can use AOSP 4.1.2 with it.
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Leraeniesh said:
Downgrading your security version will brick your device, so I wouldent suggest it.
However, you can use AOSP 4.1.2 with it.
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Then just don't flash the security component. Just do System and I think boot? I'd have to check mine, but I went from 4.4.2 to 4.1.2 and back to 4.4.2 again. It can be done if you are careful
Coronado is dead said:
Then just don't flash the security component. Just do System and I think boot? I'd have to check mine, but I went from 4.4.2 to 4.1.2 and back to 4.4.2 again. It can be done if you are careful
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If you update everything to 4.2.2, unlock, then flash your modem, kernel and system to 4.1.2 you might have success.
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Very happy to see an unlock method again for folks that missed out.. Sad to see it after many have moved on to other devices.
romma1 said:
Very happy to see an unlock method again for folks that missed out.. Sad to see it after many have moved on to other devices.
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The XT907 is surprisingly capable for its age.
Hoping that Verizon launches an LTE variant of the Moto G. It's a worthy successor to the RAZR M.
was this thread really necessary? the page u linked to links to a thread on xda in the razr m general section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
Unlocked it the first chance I got but for some reason the custom recovery won't work. However, if you guys got it working on your phones, mind if you can toss me the rope, so I can fix it.
Dr. Mario said:
Unlocked it the first chance I got but for some reason the custom recovery won't work. However, if you guys got it working on your phones, mind if you can toss me the rope, so I can fix it.
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not all work on kitkat..here's a link to @dhacker29 folder http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/ ....this one works if you have a Razr M on kitkat:
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img
Thanks! The Kit Kat version of TWRP works!
Now, it's time to rape the bloatwares.

Will the S6 have the same restrictions as the S5 (bootloader)

Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
KeithGS said:
Hello,
I just wanted to know if the s6 will have the same restrictions as in not being able to unlock the bootloader, or is it too early to know yet?
Thanks.
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the same.. wont have it and we need root first lol
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So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
Correct. It is likely that this version with the locked boot loader won't get custom roms any time soon, if ever.
KeithGS said:
So basically if you're wanting too install custom roms, it's probably a good idea to avoid this phone? (I'm talking about *if* root is archived)
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Correct. All I need is just root and I will be fine.
Samsung could release a dev edition but you will never see official upgrades or firmware releases on a dev edition.
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