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Does anyone keep their phone "naked"?

I've had my phone for a few weeks now with a case on it (body glove mirage). The case is really good, but every time I have to take it off for something I'm reminded how much better the phone feels with no case on it.
I'm curious, has anyone kept it naked? How well has it held up? I'm wondering if anyone who's done this now has scratches or anything on the metal back of the phone.
Thanks!

Mine has been naked since i got it on launch day - still looks new without a single mark on it. I have put my keys in my pocket with it a couple times, but i move them when I realize it.
No scratches on glass, metal or plastic.

I've got butterfingers so for me the case keeps me from tossing he phone across the room when I take it out of my pocket. Plust without it the phone almost feels too light

alphadog00 said:
Mine has been naked since i got it on launch day - still looks new without a single mark on it. I have put my keys in my pocket with it a couple times, but i move them when I realize it.
No scratches on glass, metal or plastic.
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Hmm. This is promising lol. I do keep it in a pocket with nothing else. I used to keep my iPhone 3g in with my keys. The back did not enjoy that, though the front stayed relatively scratch free.
gunnyman said:
I've got butterfingers so for me the case keeps me from tossing he phone across the room when I take it out of my pocket. Plust without it the phone almost feels too light
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I've dropped phones before too, thankfully not my Captivate yet. I just played with it without the case some more and it just makes life so much easier. A lot less reaching.
It's so tough. I've never used cases before because I hate the way all of them feel and the width they add. But I also don't want to destroy my phone like my 3G lol.

If you keep it naked don't drop it! The glass is supposed to be tough and scratch resistant but the paint on the metal back plate scratches easily and the plastics get dings when it hits the ground. I droped my phone twice in one day and now have a ding in each corner. That's 2 dings each time I lost hold of it. Now it has one of those film protectors front back and sides. And I have the body gloves case that I go back and forth between.
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I have also had mine without a case/screen protector since launch day. the only noticeable scratches are light ones at the top and bottom where it curves on the plastic body. other than that, the screen and back are perfect. I have dropped mine a few times, but its usually about from 2-3' up, nothing like a 6' drop.

Interesting stuff. I think ultimately I'll decide to keep the case on. Because I know that one time I drop it or get a decent scratch I'm going to be cursing myself out for not having it on there lol.
Side question: How well do we think these phones will hold their value?
I ask because I was able to sell my 3g on ebay for $130 even though the screen was dead, the camera was dead, and it was really scratched up. Not bad since I paid 200 for it a year and a half before!

InsaneJester17 said:
Interesting stuff. I think ultimately I'll decide to keep the case on. Because I know that one time I drop it or get a decent scratch I'm going to be cursing myself out for not having it on there lol.
Side question: How well do we think these phones will hold their value?
I ask because I was able to sell my 3g on ebay for $130 even though the screen was dead, the camera was dead, and it was really scratched up. Not bad since I paid 200 for it a year and a half before!
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That's the one good thing about buying Apple ANYTHING. It holds its value like crazy. I can tell you from experience that the 1 year old HTC Hero can still fetch 200 bucks. A Samsung Moment can get about $150.
The Captivates are selling on Ebay right now for about $400.

My 3G got scuffed on the back from pulling it in and out of a belt holster that was lined. I finally decided no more holsters.
As for value - I got $190 for my 8GB 3G. It is hard to say about these. Lots of people want contract free phones. Since the captivate has top notch hardware with 16GB internal and expandable storage, I think it is a good value.
If we can unlock them after Froyo (AT&T said they would after 90 days to me anyway) then I think I can get my $150 back I paid for the phone maybe more.
It is all about supply and demand. I am amazed someone paid what they did for my 3G - it is old hardware, but Apple has people fooled. iPhone 4 is going for $900 on eBay - crazy stuff. As long as Apple doesn't sell an unlocked US version contract free, the prices will stay sky high on iPhone. Captivate, not so much. The non-contract price is about $500 so in 2 years what will people pay for a used one?

Well it really depends which network and which phone I think the captivate being the only decent android on at&t will last a bit longer than maybe the vibrant and other variants like the fascinate or epic whose carriers embrace high end android phones
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i go no case.....had my iphone 3g with no case for probably a year and a half, and now i am running a naked captivate also. I actually like the feel of a case better, but have yet to find one i feel like investing in....and it looks so awesome without a case!!

I absolutely love my Body Glove case. It's the best mobile device case I've ever used, and I've had a cell phone for thirteen years.
I kept my first captivate naked for the first three days and noticed that my "Scratch Resistant Gorilla Glass" couldn't hold up to three days in the pocket of my slacks by itself. I was just beside myself as I've had an iphone without a screen protector since the phone launched, and never saw a scratch otherwise.
Seems to me that between the iPhone 4 and Captivate both having threads and threads of scratched devices, Corning needs to rethink the Gorilla Glass formula. Whatever the 3GS screen cover was made of should be the standard. I beat the hell out of that phone and not one scratch to be seen.

I really liked the phone design and lines so I went with zagg max protection. It's just like the screen protector but covers the whole body of the phone, it has no shock protection but its virtually scratch proof.
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Naked since day 1. With the exception of 2x 3"x1/4" eGrips strips I put on the back cover sides to prevent me from fumbling the phone like a wet bar of soap. Love the thin-ness and the egrips don't hinder "pocketability".

Had the Sony X10 then switched to the Captivate. I go naked just keep loose change and keys in other pocket. Love the thinness of the phone. Still searching for that perfect skin. Tried a few but just make the phone bulky. A lot of the wear and tear of a phone has to do with your job and lifestyle. Learning to adapt to how you work or play and also how soon you want another phone(gadget lust) plays a part. I tend to sell/trade a newly released phone within 6 months so I try to keep them like new. But to each his own.

Divinedark said:
I absolutely love my Body Glove case. It's the best mobile device case I've ever used, and I've had a cell phone for thirteen years.
I kept my first captivate naked for the first three days and noticed that my "Scratch Resistant Gorilla Glass" couldn't hold up to three days in the pocket of my slacks by itself. I was just beside myself as I've had an iphone without a screen protector since the phone launched, and never saw a scratch otherwise.
Seems to me that between the iPhone 4 and Captivate both having threads and threads of scratched devices, Corning needs to rethink the Gorilla Glass formula. Whatever the 3GS screen cover was made of should be the standard. I beat the hell out of that phone and not one scratch to be seen.
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been naked for about a week now and havnt got a scratch on my screen yet so i dont know u did to get your scratch. but i do still want a case just havnt got around to getting one yet and my phone is holding up just fine.

Galaxy note broken screen after only 2 weeks: anyone else?

Hello. I bought a galaxy note on 28th november. After only 2 weeks of absolutely normal and careful use, my screen is scratched and broken. Ok, it is a small crack, but it is not good.
It never fell and it never hit anything. After only 2 days, i noticed some scratchs and some other came in the days after. Then, the part of the screen between the upper edge and the speaker broke in two, with a crack (small, 5mm but still a crack) going from the edge to the speaker. I can't post a photo as i sent it back to samsung for repairs (it had also display issues). Do you know a reason for it? It should be gorilla glass, and i only kept it in my pockets without anything inside apart the smartphone. Do you think samsung will repair it since it happened during normal use after ONLY 2 weeks? I'm really annoyed and disappointed.
Anyone experiencing glass resistance issues?
Thanks

Call samsung and send it in they will fix it..
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Yes, i did it and i'm waiting, and i also adressed the lines issue and the green/banded screen, but i am in italy and i'm not sure if it is covered by warranty, it should: they can say i broke it.

The Corning Gorilla Glass was one reason I went with the SGS2.
The other reason was fear of provoking the wrath of God for having such a sensationally beautiful device (the Note). It's an awesome device, really.
But God smote those who worshiped a golden calf, too.
lol Sorry, I'm not really a religious fanatic. But yeah, sucks about your screen. Hope Sammy fixes that one up for you.

Welcome Nickelsilver and please don't take this personally and in NO way I'm defending Samsung or the Note but I have to say the neither scratches or dents/cracks come by their own.
They just don't happen/appear magically by themselves on the phone's screen/body. Maybe someone is messing with you Note without you knowing it?
E.g: I have 1mm small and barely noticeable scratch on the top left corner which I suspect it came from the ONLY 1 time my Note slipped from the passenger's seat and fell in the gap between the passenger's door/seat.

I went through 3 screens on my dell streak. Now that I have the note which is even bigger I was so cautious I treated it like a delicate fragile little flower. Needless to say after 2 weeks I noticed what appeared to be a scratch going up from the bottom middle halfway up. Turns out this is not a magical scratch that sprang out of nowhere but an actual crack on the outer glass screen. I have never dropped it but perhaps it was somehow flexed.
No warranty of course. I have ordered the glass itself from overseas and when it gets here in a month I suppose I will try replacing that piece individually as its only the outer glass that seems cracked. Hopefully they do not glue the screens together like they did in the streak ><

Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)

Gaugerer said:
Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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To OP: im sorry to hear that....hope samsung can fix it for you quick.
Ps. Dont listen and worry about this guy...he thinks only his opinions are important and others experiences are just JUNKS and BORING! Not sure why he would even bother to reply, if they really bores him that much. Maybe he really thinks that he BOOFY the witch hunter or something
Plus.. He forgot that he has also once posted a question regarding to his screen problem too here on the forum.

Gorilla glass is bull****. I had dell 5 streak, and I changed the screen more than 5 times. Little drop will result in screen loss. Do not depend on gorilla glass.

My Samsung Galaxy Note are broke
Yesterday I was knocked out of the hands under my 40 days old Samsung Galaxy Note, the cover glass is cracked along its entire length as a spider's web, while the LCD screen is not damaged, that still works, receiving the touch command. The solution I found in the orders of the new protective glass over eBay. Maybe that was too much angry because it happened to me, but NOTE is too amazing, and I somehow survive.. I'll let it be when we come new safety glass

I do not think this is a witch hunt. More of an informative thread on one weakness to an otherwise amazing device. It may be that until an indestructive clear glass is created that we will continually face this on any large phone. Anything this large will flex easily and likely crack. One thing Samsung definately did right was not glue the glass to the LCD behind it. I put a clear screen cover over mine and you cant even see the crack anymore. Were this a dell streak you would have half of your screen blacked out.
This is definitely the best mobile device out there in my opinion, people should just be extremely cautious with where they carry it. Mine most likely cracked in my pocket from slight flexing.

The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
If the glass is breaking frequently on the notes,then I wonder if they really have Gorilla glass.

noteworthy said:
The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
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Not proof.

Croak said:
Not proof.
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!

noteworthy said:
I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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That demonstration glass at the beginning of the video is about 3 times thicker than what Samsung uses on the Note/Galaxy S2/Galaxy S SAMOLED panels. And it's quite a bit smaller, height/width wise (it's about iPhone 4 sized).
Thickness makes a significant difference in flexibility and shatter resistance. Which is off on a tangent, because the main reason Samsung and others uses GG and similar techniques is not for shatter resistance.
It's almost entirely for the combination of higher scratch resistance vs metals (all bets are off with sand particles) and a better tactile feel (it's smoother) than non-treated glass.

Sure it may not be as thick on the note but you are never going to flex the phone anywhere as much as that demonstration.
My point is that if it is gorilla glass,it shouldn't be that easy to crack the screen given the abuse that it is supposed to be able to take.

All these? Gorilla Glass
And all these? Gorilla Glass
How about all these? Gorilla Glass
Or maybe all these? Gorilla Glass

It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices

captainhakan said:
It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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The weight of the note will count against it during falls compared to say a very light phone like the SG2.Impact is going to be much harder if they both fell from the same height especially given te size of the notes screen.
Until they can make the note lighter,users will just have to be more careful not to drop it.Gorilla glass is not unbreakable.

I get my note tomorrow. Now I'm all paranoid

Already dented my N5

Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Endoran said:
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words

I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...

I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...

I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.

The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.

A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen

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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.

bblzd said:
Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?

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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.

Dented
In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5

bblzd said:
I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.

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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?

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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.

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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.

Found a first case of a cracked back side

https://translate.google.com/transl...ny-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact&edit-text=&act=url (original: http://kiip.ee/arvustus-sony-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact/ )
One long and "clean" crack. According to the review(er), the crack happened inexplicably; they did some tests with water and dust/sand, but no drop tests.
It makes me wonder if the Z3C has significant overheating issues. It could be that the excessive heat from 4k recording induces a temperature shock to the glass if it is exposed to cold water shortly after.
Looking at the direction of the crack, it's unlikely that it's the result of "pocket flex"

No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.

wikitiki said:
No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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Since the review doesn't mention anything about an impact to the glass, if it is indeed due to overheating, then a case would likely only increase the risk of cracking.
One possibility is that it happened during 4k video recording, since that's the one activity that makes the phone heat up the most.

But of course, there is also still the possibility that something went wrong during the tempering procedure of the glass back panel of this particular unit. Or maybe the sand test made some micro scratches and caused a weakness? We just can't know for sure.

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No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
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Yeah so avoid 4k unless you really need to record it. It seems like several Z2 owners have been experiencing cracked screens. Some were lucky and able to get theirs replaced under Sony warranty but some others aren't. Found that the warranty reviewers would often blame it on the owner for damaging it. I'm just worried that if this is a common issue, we would have to pay for repairs.

Dsteppa said:
That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
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While using a case is generally a good idea, it would actually - as I said earlier - increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
And for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it's kind of a shame if you must hide that design 24/7 in a case.

degraaff said:
While using a case is generally a good idea, it would - as mentioned in above - only increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
Also, for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it is kind of a shame if you have to hide that design 24/7 with a case.
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Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Dsteppa said:
Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.

degraaff said:
Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.
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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?

Dsteppa said:
Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?
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Right. Well then it would be best to use one of these cases with holes in them, for not increasing the risk of cracking from heat.
I suppose that the good thing about a glass back is that, unless it is very wet, it actually "sticks" to your skin much more than any matte plastic back, so the risk of dropping is lower which compensates for its fragility. I tested this by holding my phone (xperia acro s with a soft-touch plastic back) backwards. When I put the phone on my hand with the display facing down, I can hold my hand in a much steeper angle and the phone will only start to slide off very slowly. But if I put the phone on my hand with the plastic back facing down, it will very quickly slide off at a 45 degree angle.

What is the Z3C back made from?

SenK9 said:
What is the Z3C back made from?
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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"

degraaff said:
Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"
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Since the Xperia Z, people are wondering what kind of glass it is, Sony never said what it is and just referred to it as tempered glass.

Its probably just regular ass glass haha

maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?

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maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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The rhino shield is a perfect impact protection but I doubt it will protect the glass when the temperature chances too quickly.
Sent with my Xiaomi MI2 with Tapatalk Pro

ah_hin said:
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Well, went through the reviews on Amazon and found -though generally good- somewhat mixed feedback, especially when it comes down to durability. My current Xperia M is equipped with a regular screen protector foil and it did not need any replacement since about a year. But what really keeps me off is the price of some 25$ (front) or 29$ (front and back) Rhino is calling, so one can get 10+ regular foils for that.
Anyhow, my new Z3C (hope it'll be shipped sooner ) will immediatly be foiled and secured by a case.

I hate cases, I have never had one I liked, so I end up using my phones without a case. I'll do the same with the Z1C.

There is now also a first case of screen shatter by accidental drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIFgcCoWEZs
Supposedly it fell into concrete from around pocket height.
It's also notable how there are actually chunks out of the plastic frame, rather than just scuffs.
Update: the surface texture of the concrete was "a little rough" according to the person who dropped it.

Glass cracking by itself

I have gathered up reports of the glass cracking by itself, and have come up with 6 reports already. Very concerning considering the availability of the phone. If you have a similar problem happening to you, please do post here, and if possible, please fill out this survey.
Thanks
Currently at 10 reports.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55904325&postcount=7
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861318&postcount=14 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861158&postcount=34
3/4. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...cked-shattered-on-it-s-own/m-p/844031#U844031 (2 posts in this)
5/6. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849 (2 posts in this)
7. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849
8. http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2iv7sq/z3c_back_glass_cracked_eta_on_replacement_parts/
9. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/846827/highlight/true#M525
10. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/849689/highlight/true#M636

Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far, I would guess more but lets be very conservative. 6 "cracking by itself" in 1000 phones = .6% chance
I think we should post on this over and over since it is such a huge chance of happening.

Two of those are also the same person.

The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.

maven1975 said:
The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.

Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Mine is solid too. No flex or distortion at all. And I would say 0.6% is a bit high. Their total sales are probably greater than 1000 by now. Probably closer to 1500 so that's more like .03 - .04%

But not all the 1500 user complain on XDA or the web...

Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.

Pocketability, to me, has never meant you can put a glass phone in your rear pocket.

maven1975 said:
Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...

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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
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I'm not concerned about pick pockets. If they want my phone, the could take it from my hands just as easily. So, I guess we are not to put our wallets in our rear pocket either?
I don't sit on it for long periods of time. More time than not, it is out of my pocket while seated. The issue I have is with these excuses for manufactures. I'm not starting a lawsuit or demanding a refund. I'm simply just annoyed by the arrogance displayed. Pointing the finger at consumers for using said devices the way they have been used for years.
I can see the phablet argument. Those devices should not be on your pockets. (brief periods of time) But seriously, a compact phone that risks damage by pocket? That's hardly looking at the real audience your catering too.

Its not damage by pocket. Its damage by weight and force.
Sent from my Nexus 5

My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:

CollinsJ said:
Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far
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Then they'd better shut down their smartphone department considering Apple sold 10 million units on the first weekend and the Z3C got really good previews :cyclops:

Please stop this discussion on back pockets, whether or not that pocket is suitable for phones is not for discussion here. All the reports I posted said front pockets, and that is concerning.

JorgV said:
My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?

I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.

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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
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No, I'm quite sure it wasn't. As far as I know it was idle, just being stand-by .

"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.

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"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
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Yeah, until someone is watching at the exact moment their phone spontaneously cracks, I'm not believing it. The way some people talk about the Z3C is like if you breathe on it too hard it will shatter instantaneously. My wife dropped her's from chest height onto hardwood floor with no case, screen protector, nothing. Not a scratch. Yet other people, drop it from a foot up, or having it leaning an it just tips over, and breaks... seems odd. Not calling these people liars, just that there must be more to it than that. Probably something along the lines of what bilboa1 said.