"Old(er)" Smartphones and their chance on OmniROM ? - General Omni Discussion

Dear Omni ROM team,
ever since waiting for my upgrade to Android 4.0.4 on my LG Optimus 3D, I was wondering, how the community would treat such devices in the near future.
Why is a 2011 smartphone already considered "old" and why not ? The Optimus 3D is no exception here and I hope I can start a discussion about this matter here.
On my Optimus 3D I can run (nearly) any app, without problems, without frameloss. I can take photos in a good quality, I can listen to mp3s, use it as flashlight, I can use youtube, facebook or use it as a navigation system. It tells me about the weather, I can recieve emails and sms and in the end I can use it as phone. Just like any other smartphone.
I have to admit, I dont have OctaCore, I dont have 4 GB of RAM and I cant use the android PS2 emulator above 12 fps. But that is okay to me. Maybe adding a lighter to smartphones would be a good idea. Or a knife, or a screwdriver...
Im not one of those "Hey, I got the newest Android Custom ROM on my device, how about you ?" guys. But for sure I dont want to be the last guy on earth using 4.0.4. Also, I wont buy a new device, just to have a newer android running.
For example, I maybe think of the day that I want to download an app and it will throw out an error ala "You need Android 4.4 to run this", while I know, that my device is still able to run that app / still powerfull enough to run that app.
I just recieved a LG G2 from my provider today and already decided to sell it on eBay. It wont recieve Android 4.3 and probably around march 2014, LG might introduce Android 4.4 for it. Might...sounds just like the story of the Optimus 3D to me. Sounds just like the story of most other smartphone brands out there.
Google claims, KitKat "was made" for devices with 512 MB RAM. Hey, I DO have that ! :highfive:
So why cant I use it ? :crying:
I know, it will never come. Neither from LG, nor from Cyanogen. Maybe as OmniROM ? I dont think so.
But why is that ? Is it "just" the huge variety of different smartphone models that makes development teams concentrate on the "newer" ones only ?
Are there just too many different smartphones around...too many to cover them all with custom roms ?
Why even include a function like OTA into smartphones, if a smartphone is already considered "old" after 1 year and beeing forgotten ?
It happened on the notebook/netbook/laptop market already. 10+ year old devices running on WIndows 7. Linux, Mac OSX and even Android (x86) made it into the PC sector.
Even the HTC Dream has a higher Andorid version then mine now. And it (nearly) works perfect.
I can see Optimus 3D development coming to a stop soon on xda. I try to understand why, but it is not easy.
What are your thoughts ?

•Lack of proper documentation .. (similar to galaxy nexus)
•Lack of a dedicated device maintainer(must for omni rom )
• that time developers now shifted to newer devices
• optimus3d was never a flagship ..hence never got any real attention..
•too heavy
•dedicated device owners who got lg g2 decided to sell g2 instead of o3d

doctor_droid said:
•Lack of proper documentation .. (similar to galaxy nexus)
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I hate LG for that.
doctor_droid said:
•Lack of a dedicated device maintainer(must for omni rom )
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You dooo like the Optimus 3D *magic hand gesticulation*
doctor_droid said:
• that time developers now shifted to newer devices
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Switch back to the Optimus 3D...if you ever had one. *magic hand gesticulation*
doctor_droid said:
• optimus3d was never a flagship ..hence never got any real attention..
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It is still very powerfull...*magic hand gesticulation*
doctor_droid said:
•too heavy
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In terms of weight ?
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•dedicated device owners who got lg g2 decided to sell g2 instead of o3d
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Im not that dedicated owner who got lg g2 and sold it. *magic hand gesticulation*
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Maybe LG will re-think about their update policy next year... x'D

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Android 2.3 for lg2x coming out in june/july 2011

According to the danish lg site, under FAQ of the LG Optimus 2x, they say that it'll be out in june/july 2011. So that seems to be as official they have stated a release date yet
If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
Yeah this sucks ballzzzz
Yeah it seems to be true, but have only been posted (as far as I have checked) on the Scandinavian sites for Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
I also made this post about it (maybe in the wrong section) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034970
EDIT: With a picture btw.
This means Cyanogenmod is again overtaking the manufacturer
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albireox said:
If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
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this is in line with LG italy "our scope is to provide the update in the first half of this year"
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i've just finished a livechat with italian LG support.
they have no info on gingerbread update.
Im glad there are alot of custom roms. LG fails again. superhardware lack of support
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oh my goodness when is the cyanogen gingerbread update .........
hehe who cares? I only care about CM7
The problem is there are a lot of fixes needed even within the LG Android 2.2.2, it's not all about providing GB. The stock LG software is subpar in my oppinion and the problems signaled here and on other forums needs to be addressed by LG hopefully before June.
[email protected], CM7 would be nice but for O2X is in a far from usable state.
If LG launch the 2.3 with the know how demonstrated on 2.2... I don't see how this is a good news...
CM7 is all that mater
maybe LG is waiting for cm7, and get the idea from it
I absolutely agree with the statement "Who cares, I just want CM7".
Then again, LG having the low-level dev access that they have (drivers and whatnot), isn't much easier for them to dev the update than for us to dev CM7? Moreover, wouldn't it be much easier to port CM7 if we had an LG 2.3 ROM?
Cheers.
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
69reichertm said:
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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I kind of like LG for the speed, is much faster than the Galaxy S no matter what kernel you had on it, but O2X has other problems like the poor audio quality in calls and still the software doesn't feel like it's the final version, more like a test one. I agree we should expect more because the super fast hardware is there. It's a reality manufacturers don't care about that, they act like sell only the hardware and after that, they wash their hands. At least Samsung continue to support the Galaxy S which will have GB within weeks and in the meantime we have to wait until summer to get our port on O2X. I would never buy Apple, they sell just boring super expensive and locked products, that are still owned by them even after they sell them to you. If you want Android without headaches, the best bet is on the Nexus Phones. But, in the end, you can't have everything I guess...
Wow, that was long... what are we talking about here?
Sounds like the email I recived from LG Sweden this monday which said their devs had started to work on 2.3...... but what...started? Hasn't 2.3 been out for a while??
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
rori~ said:
Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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it will be supported and if not I still have my Nexus S hehe
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[email protected] said:
it will be supported ...
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yes...I would bet it will ..only thing that counts for me
69reichertm said:
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Try the Nexus S, being just a single core hummingbird processor, the thing flies
LG Optimus 2x have the potential to be faster then the Nexus S, all you need is just to wait until more developers use the phone

will got no support soon

Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
downloadzy said:
Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
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thank you capt. obvious
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thank you capt. obvious
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lol, well said!
You are very optimistic thinking that reached 4.1 1
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I disagree. It looks to me that LG won't even update our 4x to jelly bean.
Lg are bunch of noobs.
To lg - if you are planning to fight with the likes of Samsung/HTC - offer same type of service. Like Unlock tool for the bootloader. Or unlocked boot loader from factory. At least that way we can make our own way into future updates...
I hate myself for buying a lg! Wasn't even aware of locked boot loader. Next time I will sniff around1000 times before deciding to buy a lg.
How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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there are 10a to 10f firmware and i think the update only to solve the problem and i think there will be no update because they think they do a good job...... if they reliaze it!!
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Fixes are fine by my book, ICS is already a very good platform to use. Sure, JB brings more improvements but it is game changing compared to GB to ICS.
Can you show me the fix list? I've searched a lot on google but no one seems to have it..
Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
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Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
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1. LG Optimus Nexus is not a rumor, but true
2. Yeah, maybe they're working about something (i'm f*ckin optimistic)
Although, LG's software support is crap, i'd still choose their Hardware over HTC's. And, just being chose by Google as the manufacturer for their new flagship device...LG will hopefully get more love by devs. The Optimus 4x HD is a true beast, it's a shame that LG won't unleash its true capabilities. I've been contemplating in whether to get an O4x HD (price is soooo cheap) or just wait for the LG Nexus G (which is most likely what im guna do). Either way, my next phone will be an LG. For some reason, i've becomed very bored with Samsungs, especially with my S3.
LG is going to make a conference on 24-25 oct, hope we'll get some infos about updates
http://lgepr.lge.com/CommonEmailPopup.laf?pageFlag=Notice&sendId=2698*
LG need to much time, they will update.

Let's face it - LG sucks, really

So we always had a competitor - HTC One X. HTC released official Android 4.2.2 update with updated Sense 5.0 UI. What we will get? Nothing. Thank you LG once again. Last LG phone ever for me. Optimus 4X HD old phone? What about One X?
I knew from the beginning that LG sucks on supporting because I already bought the LG 2x in the past, poorly supported device but, the great performance and build quality brings me back to LG, ginger bread on LG 2x worked spool great and lagless that I was amazed every time I use the phone, now on my 4x I 100 Times more amazed, LG stock roms are almost perfect, y can get 10 hours of battery and only train by 8% and that's great, also the materials used on the phone are great and the performance is very cool, kicking the ass of the galaxy for example, on antutu we get like 1000 points more on cpu and floating cpu point that galaxy s3 and with a custom kernel a modifying the stock gpu frequency we can get a little more score on gpu too... so, there's it nothing that we can do in 4.2.2 that we cannot do in 4.1.2...
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LG has the best UX-device-performance combinations. the wait is worth it.
look at their G2.
Winudert said:
So we always had a competitor - HTC One X. HTC released official Android 4.2.2 update with updated Sense 5.0 UI. What we will get? Nothing. Thank you LG once again. Last LG phone ever for me. Optimus 4X HD old phone? What about One X?
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For me LG have better suport then HTC.. I was fan of HTC and i can say be happy if u get one updates, Just look exemple HTC Desire HD great phone but stucked with gingerbread, HTC says bad hardwer for ICS update, lulz. No more HTC for me
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Winudert said:
So we always had a competitor - HTC One X. HTC released official Android 4.2.2 update with updated Sense 5.0 UI. What we will get? Nothing. Thank you LG once again. Last LG phone ever for me. Optimus 4X HD old phone? What about One X?
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LG made nexus 4, that's enough for me to love the company, also it's wireless charger is amazing.
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What is better in 4.2.2 ?
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AdiSimpson said:
What is better in 4.2.2 ?
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It's a higher number, so must be better - that's why people always ***** and moan
The Apple phenomenom; "Let's rebrand the iPhone4 as the iPhone5 and everybody will want one".
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It's a higher number, so must be better - that's why people always ***** and moan
The Apple phenomenom; "Let's rebrand the iPhone4 as the iPhone5 and everybody will want one".
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for stock android, not much difference. but for lg ui, i would love the new camera interface from 4.2 in optimus g2, and all the new features from the new lg ui version. we seems to forgot that a new android version from the manufacturers is not at all the same as android update, 4.1-4.2 doesn't bring much on the stock version, but for the manufacturers update, there will be a lot of new things. you might call it gimmick features, but that is based on YOUR preferences.
see for yourself what the new version of LG interface will bring. I WANT THAT.. i don't care about the new lockscreen or the multiuser that stock android 4.2 brings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4mxN87hug
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for stock android, not much difference. but for lg ui, i would love the new camera interface from 4.2 in optimus g2, and all the new features from the new lg ui version. we seems to forgot that a new android version from the manufacturers is not at all the same as android update, 4.1-4.2 doesn't bring much on the stock version, but for the manufacturers update, there will be a lot of new things. you might call it gimmick features, but that is based on YOUR preferences.
see for yourself what the new version of LG interface will bring. I WANT THAT.. i don't care about the new lockscreen or the multiuser that stock android 4.2 brings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4mxN87hug
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for that, we have a rom that brings qslide to the LG 4X HD without any bugs at all, if you want more speed install PurePerformance Golden edition, if you want some apps from LG G2 in apps sections are LG G2 apps like calculator, music player, and task manager...
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for that, we have a rom that brings qslide to the LG 4X HD without any bugs at all, if you want more speed install PurePerformance Golden edition, if you want some apps from LG G2 in apps sections are LG G2 apps like calculator, music player, and task manager...
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lol. i want the camera app, can you give me that? so far, the lg camera app from stock 4.1.2 is the only thing that's capable of using HDR mode properly. i'm not happy with LG leaving our device behind, and i assume so is the OP. This is what the thread about, to get attention. We are not *****es. We are LG's customers. We deserve our updates. and LG should know it.
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lol. i want the camera app, can you give me that? so far, the lg camera app from stock 4.1.2 is the only thing that's capable of using HDR mode properly. i'm not happy with LG leaving our device behind, and i assume so is the OP. This is what the thread about, to get attention. We are not *****es. We are LG's customers. We deserve our updates. and LG should know it.
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i am fighting this since i have mi LG 2X...
My point of this post starts at 1:24
when you see others have, you want it too, even if you are in a different situation. If that thing didn't exist in the first place, you wouldn't think of making a noise to have it.
that video remember me to my dogs... my two dogs was the best friends, one was a aleman pastor, and the other was a rottweiler, both played togeter since kids, one day my mom bought the rottweiler a chain, after that the pastor was angry with the rottweiler... extrange? yes... and the rottweiler used to walk slower in front of the pastor like showing his new chain, that makes the pastor more and more anger... the problem was ended when i bought the same chain to the pastor too... Best friends again...
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It's a higher number, so must be better - that's why people always ***** and moan
The Apple phenomenom; "Let's rebrand the iPhone4 as the iPhone5 and everybody will want one".
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^This. Thread closed.

LG's L40(kitkat) vs P900(ICS).. Cheated by LG

I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Money Money Money :thumbup:
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.
I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.
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I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.
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+1, i think the best manufacturer were we can go is sony?? :noidea:
as i can see today sony is the only manufacturer that providing at least the sources for old phones?
I think it's worse that they wont give out all the code needed to optimize and improve the Tegra2 cores for O2X than updating it themselves.
(since they obviously aren't very good at it)
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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.
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Well they could at least give out a stable ics ota
The official ics update is crap as hell totally unusable, i would have sold this phone but thanks to the wonderful devs of this community I'm still using it ?
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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That L40 is dumb but no doubt like the L3 it will be a great kids phone.
But our P990 will not get love from LG mine is 2 years old now and it was the last of them to be seen here in New Zealand, most people will break or loose the phone by now why develop for such a small audeince, dont forget our phone only have about 384mb of ram and they do not support NEON instuction either it was meant to be over at 4.2 but TonyP and pengus got us a bit further.
Even if you look at the specs i dont think the L90 would be a good replacement for the P990 mainly because of the price im guessing it will be more than the Nexus 5 which cost now the same amount as the P990 cost me two years ago.
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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nvidia drivers are closed source and they do not update the drivers any more - and the tegra2 does not even support neon-instructions - thats why LG stopped developing
and because the phone now really is too old - i mean, a 3 year old smartphone is already a dinosaur, what other company still develops updates for such old phones?
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.
akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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i bought O2x to my girlfriend last summer,and that was BIG mistake, she need phone,fast,and...luckily we have our developers that make awesome stuff but still, and than i bought to my self O4x, another mistake...i think that that is last tegra device i EVER buy,this is just unforgivable, devices with a lot potential don't receive updates that they deserve ,i won't put so much blame on lg, because htc one x even won't receive kitkat, because of nvidia(nvidia shame on you,you better stay away from smartphone scene,just make people angry) ...except if K1 go open source,than maybe can be an option for buying,but after that i doubt....almost dead in my book,just sad
akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.
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In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.
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well the annoying thing is that they both are the best companies. LG and nVidia did the gratest things, LG invented the first dual-core phone (our O2X) and the first 4K TV, nvidia invented first 3D Vision on PC's and so on..... They are grate companies but when it comes to who gives less f***ks LG and nVidia are the first :laugh: and they are terrible at software developing. :crying:
Agreed, I have owned my last nvvidia phone.
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The only direct responsible for this situation is nVidia. Those who were in active in this forum the last couple of years know perfectly well how it all went down and, even though it was LG the one who should push updates for the o2x, its always been nVidia that obstructed development efforts due to its notorious closed-source policy. In the end of the day, its perfectly understandable for a company to stop supporting a 3-year old device, considering the silly pace in which mobile tech evolves. Keep in mind that the o2x hasnt been the worst of examples in this area. Even though it still holds the record for longest update holdout (16 months to go from Android 2.2 to 2.3 - even mentioned in Wikipedia) it has seen 2 major OS updates: 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0. Direct competition doesn't differ too much in this sense (SGS 2.3 to 4.0.4 to 4.1, HTC Thunderbolt 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0) with some 'flagships' that year seeing much less (see Droid Bionic). We should really be grateful that some amazing devs happened to join this forum and dedicated lots of time and knowledge to maintain this phone and get it where it is right now. It's been some time that i dont use my o2x (passed it on to my gf - still runs great) and moved to an iP4s due to Google's frustrating incapability to write a decent low latency audio API (Apple is the undisputed king there). So even though im not planning to move back to Android before this embarrassing situation is resolved, Im absolutely convinced that ill never, ever buy an nVidia powered phone again, no matter what they come up with. So yes, once more: nVidia, F**k You!
oh no
Not only lg even htc ndivia powered device such htc one x didnt get kitkat update, they have twice power engine than o2x. I think owner of htc one x cry louder than us thanx to nvidia :crying:
This isn't the first time that LG cheats his users.
Just remember the Optimus 3D updates...
Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
Linus Torvals complained about Nvidia because of the lack of their support for Linux and Android. I think it was a good opinion that he said what he thinks about that company. For computers, AMD and ATI have a great support for Linux, which is really nice. Too bad I noticed too late what a fault it was to buy an Nvidia pc, too.
BS86 said:
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.
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Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.
cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.
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every manufacturer unfortunately has some closed source parts, some more, some less, but some can't be avoided - but yes, sony has the best open source approach and therefore the best custom rom base

My theory for a possible bright future for G Flex

I reckon that android is not the future (since not much being done on it for the flex) but in fact windows 10 mobile.
Sounds crazy but if u look at it maybe it isn't:
The Xiaomi mi4 is a snapdragon 800 n that is one of the very very few phones atm that can run android or win10m.
Microsoft are big and experienced enough that I wouldn't be surprised if they released a universal ROM that works on multiple different kinds of systems ala much like normal windows can (Which is part of my expanded theory what they'll do to really penetrate the market).
Is there any hope in my theory? Lol
Anyone agree with me? Cmon I'm trying to bring hope to our beloved phone. Heh.
mrw187 said:
Anyone agree with me? Cmon I'm trying to bring hope to our beloved phone. Heh.
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I wanna believe it man! believe me!! but is there a real future for this monster of a phone?
2far said:
I wanna believe it man! believe me!! but is there a real future for this monster of a phone?
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Lol cool somebody else has hope.
Of course man! I am unaware of cell phone getting a newer rom skipping various version of android but as we say theres always a first time for everything even though could be the last one we see. I mean this phone still pretty powerful though. D800 under hood, 2gigs starts to be n issue but who cares not every body uses 70 to 100 apps, plus we install roms specially to get the most out our devices! What is it?? What is making this premiun devices not to get enough android development!!??
mrw187 said:
I reckon that android is not the future (since not much being done on it for the flex) but in fact windows 10 mobile.
Sounds crazy but if u look at it maybe it isn't:
The Xiaomi mi4 is a snapdragon 800 n that is one of the very very few phones atm that can run android or win10m.
Microsoft are big and experienced enough that I wouldn't be surprised if they released a universal ROM that works on multiple different kinds of systems ala much like normal windows can (Which is part of my expanded theory what they'll do to really penetrate the market).
Is there any hope in my theory? Lol
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you are talking about a mobile phone that was completely abandoned by LG but had strong potential, i am literally still stuck at android 4.2.2 on this phone and i can tell you it is absolutely terrible , i am probably buying a letv 1 pro instead, basically my point is that this phone is dead and un supported by any one frankly
2far said:
I wanna believe it man! believe me!! but is there a real future for this monster of a phone?
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2far said:
Of course man! I am unaware of cell phone getting a newer rom skipping various version of android but as we say theres always a first time for everything even though could be the last one we see. I mean this phone still pretty powerful though. D800 under hood, 2gigs starts to be n issue but who cares not every body uses 70 to 100 apps, plus we install roms specially to get the most out our devices! What is it?? What is making this premiun devices not to get enough android development!!??
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multimzain said:
you are talking about a mobile phone that was completely abandoned by LG but had strong potential, i am literally still stuck at android 4.2.2 on this phone and i can tell you it is absolutely terrible , i am probably buying a letv 1 pro instead, basically my point is that this phone is dead and un supported by any one frankly
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Damn!! I feel sorry for you, you're even worse off lol at least I'm on KitKat.
Good for u bro, but O which this thing could get freacking N!

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