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So I bought a Neo and played around with it on my work Note 3. It has fair amount of apps. Well today I bought a S5 Active. I moved my Neo over to it (requires reseting it.) and got gear manager installed. Surprise to me... It seems even though things like the clock face is an app that runs on the phone if the developer doesn't select that it works with a phone you can't use it. Which should be a simple change for most things however it doesn't seem that developers update their Samsung store apps. For the S5 active there are only a handful of apps even though I am sure 99% all the apps would work if the dev would click the "it works with an s5 active"
After dealing with Samsung support (or the lack of it) I tried to get on the Samsung app store webpage. It seems they are having server errors so it was been working like crap. I was kind of able to get contacts for a couple of the app dev's to ask that they update their app to work with the S5 active. Samsung app store doesn't provide contact information unless the dev adds it. One of the devs linked to his google+ page. Which showed he is working to get the same app with improvements to work on android wear.
This got me thinking. Who is going to mess with this crappy half baked Samsung store with Google coming out with Wear? I'd guess we won't see anyone making new Apps for the tizen watches, they don't even update it to work with new phones it will run on with no changes...
I just got the Neo and I am on the fence of returning it. I figured I could get by with apps I had on the Note 3 until someone got a Wear rom for it. With the lack of apps when paired with the s5 I am not impressed at all and after my research today I am liking it less. I got it over the wear because it was only 150bucks vs 225, it has a speaker and IR blaster and Android wear is lacking in features (sure to change in 6 months to a year). I figured by the time wear got up to speed there would be a rom. Thinking about it some I am doubtful, I think the speaker and IR blaster (camera if it is a gear 2) will prevent it from ever happening. None of the wear watches have these so I'd guess there isn't low level support.
I guess I need to return it and wait for the 360 come out.
I had the same problem with my active. I modified the build prop to identify my device as a regular s5 and have all the apps again.
Root required?
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WiFivomFranMan said:
Root required?
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yeah
lordmorphous said:
yeah
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What did you use as your spoofed device?
WiFivomFranMan said:
What did you use as your spoofed device?
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
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when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
treezy26 said:
when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
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Phone is rooted, not the watch. I rooted by using towelroot. Look in the particular forum for your phone for instruction, I don't want to give bad advice.
I understand how to root. My question now is, will this work with any phone?
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yopiggy said:
I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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Haha lucky me i kept my my original GG my Neo and also have the Live... Yup the live is super boring compared to the GG or Neo
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I'm quite happy with the note 4 so far and would like to keep it but I'm having issues with my Gear. I'm not sure if this is rom (currently on Null rom) related or note 4 only supports tizen, but these are my issues. I don't have these issues with my note 3.
1. When I get a text and I open it on the watch, it's supposed to clear the notification on the phone but it's not. So I still have to go the my messages on the phone and view them so the notification goes away.
2. I have my gear set up to auto unlock my phone when its near it, but it's not working. It stays locked (pattern unlock)
Anyone else with the Gear having any of these issues? If you're not can you tell me if you are using stock android rom or tizen. TIA.
interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
I'm also running null_23. Can confirm issue 2. I'm using hangouts for SMS. Not sure if notifications are dismissing for that, I'll let you know.
wase4711 said:
interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
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In some case I do put it in there but moderators always move it to Q&A which makes sense so I just put them in here.
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rcobourn said:
I'm also running null_23. Can confirm issue 2. I'm using hangouts for SMS. Not sure if notifications are dismissing for that, I'll let you know.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I tried rolling back to stock android rom but still the same. I really hope I don't have to go to tizen. I need my 60 second recoding which only can be had with Null rom.
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interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
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Wase4711, Gear 1 and Gear 2 are significantly different. Gear 1's have the option of running android OR tizen, whereas gear 2 folks are pretty much locked into Tizen and that's that.
thanks, I did not know that:good:
whats the real difference when running either of them, outside of apps you might be able to load on the android OS?
tomorrow will be a busy day, configuring the note 4 and the gear 2!:cyclops:
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thanks, I did not know that:good:
whats the real difference when running either of them, outside of apps you might be able to load on the android OS?
tomorrow will be a busy day, configuring the note 4 and the gear 2!:cyclops:
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using a regular rom on the Note 1, you can install LOTS of goodies.
Gear 2 apps are significantly more limited. IMO the gear 2 looks cleaner without that ugly wart camera.
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using a regular rom on the Note 1, you can install LOTS of goodies.
Gear 2 apps are significantly more limited. IMO the gear 2 looks cleaner without that ugly wart camera.
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that makes sense..
for me, the gear 2 had most of the things I would care about on it, plus, I knew getting the note 4 around the same time, my head would be exploding just getting that setup how I want it, let alone having to configure/learn how to use a Gear 2..Yeah, that "wart" of a camera on the gear 1 looked terrible..
How are you guys using null without Bluetooth tethering?
quick update; the gear 2 works fantastic with this phone..
I cant believe how clear and loud making a phone call from a watch actually is!
Plus, I get the "HD Voice" notification on the watch while calling, and its as clear as a bell!
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quick update; the gear 2 works fantastic with this phone..
I cant believe how clear and loud making a phone call from a watch actually is!
Plus, I get the "HD Voice" notification on the watch while calling, and its as clear as a bell!
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Thanks for the update. It looks like I won't have a choice but to upgrade to tizen if I want my gear 1 to play right.
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aznmode said:
Thanks for the update. It looks like I won't have a choice but to upgrade to tizen if I want my gear 1 to play right.
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its not so bad; even though there arent a ton of programs for it, i really just want it for notifications/calls/texts/email and the pedometer and work out stuff. All that works great so far on a stock, non rooted note 4
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its not so bad; even though there arent a ton of programs for it, i really just want it for notifications/calls/texts/email and the pedometer and work out stuff. All that works great so far on a stock, non rooted note 4
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Ya I use mine for mostly call, text notification, unlock feature but also camera and video recording. It beats holding a phone sometimes and having a 60 second recording (only available on custom rom) is a great.
I screwed up. I bought the Gear 2 Neo & thought it would work with Nexus 5 Lollipop
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.
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Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.
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I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.
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I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.
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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...
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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...
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How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?
carpediem said:
How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?
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For now does't work, i must back to 4.4.4 becouse with S4 5.02 not work. Terrible
carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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I tried it on a very early alpha version of lollipop on my Samsung device and it worked. But I hate to burst your bubble, it will be at least another couple of months until it is stable and more generally available. It relies heavy on gear manager which relies on the touchwiz environment. Why, for Pete's sake, this route was chosen is maybe one of Samsung's downfalls. Within two years they will be out of the market if they keep going with their business model, this consumer market does not care, but like you, will remember. Examples of such electronic giants reduced to rubble? Nokia, Nortel, Blackberry
Consumers want stuff to work, simple without all these prerequisites that are in fine print.
Tbh you are best of selling or donate it to a family member with a Samsung phone that has to be running Jellybean 4.3 or KitKat. Preferably a galaxy phone so S4, Note3, ß5 or Note4. Others.... Will not work without breaking their OS
Sad but true
Anyone tried Gear 2 Neo to see if it works with the newly pushed Android 5.0.1 on i9500 and i9506?
I'm curious if it will work from day 1 on i9505 when 5.0.1 will be pushed to these devices.
Thanks!
I have i9506, nordic edition and gear 2 neo, and they work together. Even better than on Kitkat, as s health was not receiving the Gear data for pedometer and such.
Now even that works. My s4 on the otherhand is laggy as hell with 5.0.1 , but that is not the issue here
I've installed i9505 5.0.1 and Samsung Gear doesn't work anymore. When started, it blinks a 1-2 times and crashes silently. I cannot connect to the watch with anything else (Android Wear for ex.) either.
Any ideas?
Later edit: I enabled bluetooth debug in Android Wear and tried several more times to connect through S-Gear and now it seems it connected and is trying to install additional software... hope it works out.
Haha, phone did a factory reset on the watch and now I'm trying again to connect to it .
Later edit: after managing to soft brick my phone, I reinstalled the 5.0.1 and this time, amazingly enough, Samsung Gear worked as it was supposed to so my watch is back to normal functions again.
nexus 5
so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?
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so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?
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I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.
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I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.
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Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex
hashde said:
Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex
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Answering calls work with Lollipop too,just pair watch in Bluetooth settings. Second... You should install Android rom on watch,not Tizen. There is also Android Wear mod possibility... Roms for Gear 2 should also work on Neo (except camera)
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Hey
I am using Google Pixel 4 phone and i dont see the contacts showing up on my GW3
I have checked the appropriate permission settings on both the devices and it looks good. I see some people in reddit posted this as well with a Google device. Does anyone else seeing this or found a solution.
Samsung says: reset your device
Because your not using a samsung device, well phone. Certain service apps only work on samsungs osapk.
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Because your not using a samsung device, well phone. Certain service apps only work on samsungs osapk.
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That's incorrect. This worked well with the same phone and Galaxy Watch.
Thank you for trying to correct me, yes the newest version of tizen is limited to Samsung only.
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Thank you for trying to correct me, yes the newest version of tizen is limited to Samsung only.
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shoot
Samsung support does not know about it may be then. They should have told me right away that this is a known issue. Thanks for correcting me.
Have you gone through and made sure you have everything downloaded? This year seems to require samsung accessory service to work right.
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Have you gone through and made sure you have everything downloaded? This year seems to require samsung accessory service to work right.
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Yes, looks like i have done everything. I do see the Samsung Accessory service running often. Able to transfer file and install apps to my watch from the phone.
Just pre ordered galaxy watch 4 but suddenly remembered I no longer have a ****ty Samsung mobile as I traded in for the mi 11 ultra
Does anyone know if the 4g watch would work without any issues with this phone
Tha k you
Should be fully functional...
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Should be fully functional...
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Except the Chinese ROM
The only features that don't work on the watch 3 with a non Galaxy phone is ECG and Blood Pressure Monitoring, looking at the LONG list of T&C's on the watch 4 shop page it looks the same,
ECG and BP feature only to be used by 22 years+. For accurate BP readings, a calibration is required every 4 weeks by BP monitor & arm cuff. Requires a Galaxy smartphone running Android 7.0 or above.
I found this highly annoying BTW !!!
BP, ECG, saturation, BMI (and other related) won't work.
orbital247 said:
The only features that don't work on the watch 3 with a non Galaxy phone is ECG and Blood Pressure Monitoring, looking at the LONG list of T&C's on the watch 4 shop page it looks the same,
ECG and BP feature only to be used by 22 years+. For accurate BP readings, a calibration is required every 4 weeks by BP monitor & arm cuff. Requires a Galaxy smartphone running Android 7.0 or above.
I found this highly annoying BTW !!!
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Is this guide helpful https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ce-restriction-removed-12th-aug-2021.4202685/
So the main reasons for buying the watch then lol
Maybe I'll send it back
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So the main reasons for buying the watch then lol
Maybe I'll send it back
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If you're an XDA fam, there's always a work around and we already have a work around that imma give a shot. And yes I've got an Mi 11 ULTRA and I'm expecting my WATCH 4 CLASSIC to be shipped by the 27th
Awesome I got mine yesterday 1 wk early lol happy times!!
Was a pain to get set up wouldn't connect to wear app but finally got it up and running
Plug in error a few times saying it won't give notifications and to be fair so far I can't get text notifications or any others yet lol
Turned miui optimization off and that help to connect but can't get text notifications to pop up and show on watch which is annoying
Will try the work around either today or tomorrow when I get chance I been busy
Annoying me with texts not showing up on watch
Contemplating selling my mi 11 ultra paying off my £600 early upgrade fee and getting 5he galaxy fold 3
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Awesome I got mine yesterday 1 wk early lol happy times!!
Was a pain to get set up wouldn't connect to wear app but finally got it up and running
Plug in error a few times saying it won't give notifications and to be fair so far I can't get text notifications or any others yet lol
Turned miui optimization off and that help to connect but can't get text notifications to pop up and show on watch which is annoying
Will try the work around either today or tomorrow when I get chance I been busy
Annoying me with texts not showing up on watch
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I can't seem to find the MIUI optimization button anywhere, in running MI.EU 12.5.12. can you show me where you found it.
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I can't seem to find the MIUI optimization button anywhere, in running MI.EU 12.5.12. can you show me where you found it.
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missing MIUI Optimization toggle is rather simple. All you got to do is head over to Developer options and tap on “Reset to default values” a few times. Following this, you should see MIUI Optimization reappear magically
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missing MIUI Optimization toggle is rather simple. All you got to do is head over to Developer options and tap on “Reset to default values” a few times. Following this, you should see MIUI Optimization reappear magically
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Tried that prior, doesn't work I'm genuinely looking forward to this watch next week.
BodgeKunt said:
Awesome I got mine yesterday 1 wk early lol happy times!!
Was a pain to get set up wouldn't connect to wear app but finally got it up and running
Plug in error a few times saying it won't give notifications and to be fair so far I can't get text notifications or any others yet lol
Turned miui optimization off and that help to connect but can't get text notifications to pop up and show on watch which is annoying
Will try the work around either today or tomorrow when I get chance I been busy
Annoying me with texts not showing up on watch
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Also are you saying, that I can't connect this watch until and unless I figure out how to turn off MIUI optimisation !?
It's a nice watch but I'm not a fan of the 20mm girly strap size
Needs 22/24mm
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If you're an XDA fam, there's always a work around and we already have a work around that imma give a shot. And yes I've got an Mi 11 ULTRA and I'm expecting my WATCH 4 CLASSIC to be shipped by the 27th
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Can you link me the work around please and I hope it's easy to do as I'm useless lol hope your watch arrives early for you like mine has
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Can you link me the work around please and I hope it's easy to do as I'm useless lol hope your watch arrives early for you like mine has
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[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - TIZEN - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ TIZEN WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Active2 and Watch3 (as mentioned, Samsung Tizen Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country restriction...
forum.xda-developers.com
That's the one
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[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - TIZEN - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ TIZEN WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Active2 and Watch3 (as mentioned, Samsung Tizen Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country restriction...
forum.xda-developers.com
That's the one
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Thanks
Tried to do it I'm so confused lol
Got it on phone but watch says I need to download ECG and blood pressure bit but I can't seem to do that pmsl I'm so useless
New gaming pc here in a few days so be easier doing it on pc than .y phone
Thanks for the link bro
BodgeKunt said:
Just pre ordered galaxy watch 4 but suddenly remembered I no longer have a ****ty Samsung mobile as I traded in for the mi 11 ultra
Does anyone know if the 4g watch would work without any issues with this phone
Tha k you
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Yes