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I decided to change my aging Galaxy S II because its dev community becane stagnant (no kernel sources, tons of kangs). The XT sounded perfect on paper : 720p screen, 13mp camera, Krait chipset, good sound quality and some great devs migrated to it. However after a week of use I can't help but feel a bitter taste in my mouth for buying it sight unseen (this phone is very hard to get in my country). Here is my little "rant", structured in in bullet points:
1) The screen acquired TONS of microscratches in just a week. I knew sony doesn't use gorilla glass, but this is terrible. I can't even pull it out of my pocket w/o fearing that it will scratch . I am very careful with my phone (my S2 was in pristine condition after two months of use with no screen protectors/cases), so I doubt it's me. Also, the screen itself is pretty bad, but I won't complain too much about it since I read about this in reviews and various topics around here.
2) The case paint already started peeling. Not much, but at this rate it will look like it's 2 years old in just a month. Such a shame since I love the finish.
Another point of concern is the audio quality. It has a discernible hiss no matter what headphones or music app I use. It's even worse on CM10 and since I got this phone mostly for the dev community this just sucks donkey balls. Every respectable reviewer complained about the SQ of the S2 and its background noise caused by the CPU/radios and none about the XT and yet it is easier to notice on the XT.
What is your opinion about this? I've seen that some topics already covered some of these issues, but I think they need to be brought again to the attention of potential buyers.
LE: It seems that my headphone jack port is also very flimsy. It falls off every time I try to put on / take off my case.
Strange... My XT seems very robust, difficult to scratch and the ruberish coating seems perfect. Perhaps you should contact Sony and request a replacement. Check the booklets that came with it perhaps?
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1) There is a shatter proof sheet applied on it. So the micro scratches is technically on that, not on the screen itself. Peel that off and apply a new screen protector.
2) Is a known issue for LT30p? I havent seen anyone posting issues with LT30at or LT30a atm.
LitoNi said:
There is a shatter proof sheet applied on it. So the micro scratches is technically on that, not on the screen itself. Peel that off and apply a new screen protector.
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Is that sheet made of glass? I can't seem to be able to peel it. I heard that it should come with a screen protector, but i haven't found anything in the box.
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Is that sheet made of glass? I can't seem to be able to peel it. I heard that it should come with a screen protector, but i haven't found anything in the box.
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It's a very, very thick screen protector. It comes off but it takes some work. Trying to peel it off at the corners using a piece of paper seems to work best for most people, but you'll just have to spend some time on it if you really want to get it off
You should leave it on though, unless those microscratches really bother you.
On sound quality: it's perfectly fine for me and I use audiophile earbuds (these: https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7550/). It lacks a tiny bit of stereo separation and clarity, but not worse than any other phone at all.
I thought it's something like this one, but preapplied since it didn't come in the box. Any tutorials on how to do it? I already ordered a 3M screen protector which should be much harder to scratch.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pq6uy48M6s4/UGR3T6EPswI/AAAAAAAAABY/XmVScLnfV1Q/s1600/WP_000025.jpg
Also, what ROM/music player are you using?
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I thought it's something like this one, but preapplied since it didn't come in the box. Any tutorials on how to do it? I already ordered a 3M screen protector which should be much harder to scratch.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pq6uy48M6s4/UGR3T6EPswI/AAAAAAAAABY/XmVScLnfV1Q/s1600/WP_000025.jpg
Also, what ROM/music player are you using?
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In contrast to you, I am not discouraging anyone to buy it.
Well, I am using Xperia V (LT25i) and perhaps it has different build quality since it has to withstand dirt and water? It has a metal frame (looks like atleast) and rubber on the backside. It also came with an extra screen protector in the box. I know you don't care about Xperia V but maybe somebody reading this wants to know? Only downside are all these flipp flop USB-, charger and headphone openings that has to be sealed after use.
In regard to music player, PowerAmp is a must for best sound! :good:
Hope you don't feel too bad about the Xperia T and Happy New Year!
datagubben said:
In contrast to you, I am not discouraging anyone to buy it.
Well, I am using Xperia V (LT25i) and perhaps it has different build quality since it has to withstand dirt and water? It has a metal frame (looks like atleast) and rubber on the backside. It also came with an extra screen protector in the box. I know you don't care about Xperia V but maybe somebody reading this wants to know? Only downside are all these flipp flop USB-, charger and headphone openings that has to be sealed after use.
In regard to music player, PowerAmp is a must for best sound! :good:
Hope you don't feel too bad about the Xperia T and Happy New Year!
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Of course it has different build quality. The IP57 certification is pretty rough. And the screen might be different too.
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Of course it has different build quality. The IP57 certification is pretty rough. And the screen might be different too.
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I had mine since December 3rd with lots of time to test and use it. Maybe you got a faulty device, it happend to me before and I made DOA. Got a new phone in the shop next day.
Xperia V Walkman is good too, don't know if it is the same version as Xperia T.
Conclusion of Xperia V (if someone wants to know).
*No scratch on the display (one extra sheet in the box).
*Feels good in hand and sturdy built quality, no squeaky parts.
*Music and sound is fine, but if I want louder volume -I buy PowerAmp.
If it gets dirty-, too hot or scratched, just wash it with cold water.
My XT is perfect for me, I havn't any problem on screen or anything.
Sony Xperia T - Stock ROM - Firmware 7.0.3.195 - 4.1.2 Stock Leaked Launcher - Rooted soon.
Xperia V is also good and maybe more, but I like my phone !
Sony Xperia T - Stock ROM - Firmware 7.0.3.195 - 4.1.2 Stock Leaked Launcher - Rooted soon.
My T is perfectly working. No scratches, and the screen quality is superb. It also doesn't peel in the back.
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The only thing i'found is that the back cover makes a little sound sometimes if I press it, like if it wasn't well attached. Sorry for my english.
Sucks to hear that op. I have my XT since 15 November and I have no problems. The phone looks and works as new. No scratches, no poor performance. I have the newest firmware available and everything works just fine.
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Well, it isn't the performance that bothers me. Actually, the performance is great. And finally having CM10 with working project butter features is like a godsend. I'm just worried about the outer casing.
Ive had my XT since it came out in UK, its great but the only problem I have is the build quality, I don't have the flaking issue, but more the phone creaking, its quite a annoying sound. I have a case but I only have it on when I go out.
Apart from that its awesome phone
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I've also got the creaking issue. Also removed the rather thick shatter protector that has improved screen responsiveness and contract, slightly...
Would be interested in the Xperia Z though, if the price is right i'd exchange.
had my xperia t since october3rd not one scratch looks like new guess i take better care of mine that anyone else
Had mine since the 26th October. It's on O2 UK with the Bond branding.
Build quality is excellent thus far. No peeling. Screen has pre-applied protector, plus the one that came in the box. Very happy with it. Previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and had the original iPhone before that.
Android seems to have acquired 'polish' since I last tried it about a year ago.
My T seem perfect until now (buyed 12/12/12)
The only problem si the poor wifi range.. it's too low compared to my previous LG optimus black.
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No problems here so far...
Hi guys
Currently I'm using an s3 .. But am going to buy a new phone next month and I'm confused between Xperia Z and the Htc one
The only thing which I dont like about the Z is that when using the anti shatter film , the phone doesn't have good display from some angles ..
So I've searched alot to see if there is a difference in display after removing the anti shatter film .. But I found nothing
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance
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Well I must say I removed mine the other day and in my eyes the screen colours look better and to be fair that was the best thing I done for my phone is to take that **** off from the screen.
I have still got mine on and sorry can you tell me what angle is meant to be bad because I can't find it (if you understand what I am saying)
I cannot fault the XZ I have just had it over 2 months and extremely happy with it
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Maddhouse said:
I have still got mine on and sorry can you tell me what angle is meant to be bad because I can't find it (if you understand what I am saying)
I cannot fault the XZ I have just had it over 2 months and extremely happy with it
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Hi mate
You can watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhXpHULwys&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You can start from 3:30
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Make it clear that with the latest firmware update, the Xperia Z received a significant improvement in Question colors, angles and contrast of the screen!
I removed my ASF and noticed an improvement in the brightness of the screen!
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Hi guys
Currently I'm using an s3 .. But am going to buy a new phone next month and I'm confused between Xperia Z and the Htc one
The only thing which I dont like about the Z is that when using the anti shatter film , the phone doesn't have good display from some angles ..
So I've searched alot to see if there is a difference in display after removing the anti shatter film .. But I found nothing
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance
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dont take it off if you dont have a screen protector replacement...my god that screen attract more oil than my S3+S2 combine! its horrible for a flagship device..
Does anybody know if i can find an original film?Mine is very scratched and i don't want to lose the Sony logo.
Thank You
alexchris said:
Does anybody know if i can find an original film?Mine is very scratched and i don't want to lose the Sony logo.
Thank You
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It's apparently baked on the screen.
New screen if you want the Sony logo back.
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xchasa said:
It's apparently baked on the screen.
New screen if you want the Sony logo back.
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Sad, but true!
Do not have anywhere to sell!
" the phone doesn't have good display from some angles "
I think the Z's display is fantastic. The fact that the viewing angle is somewhat narrow has an upside in that ambient light seems to be blocked out more effectively.
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" the phone doesn't have good display from some angles "
I think the Z's display is fantastic. The fact that the viewing angle is somewhat narrow has an upside in that ambient light seems to be blocked out more effectively.
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not only that, but there are 2 things i don't understand with this "viewing angle craze":
1. what person uses their phone while looking at it from a narrow angle ?
i'd say that probably 99% of the time, everyone uses their phone looking more or less straight at the display.
2. when i look at the prices for extra foils that secure the device from people looking over your shoulder... i'd say we already have that feature for FREE !!! (you know, it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE ! ).
Also, from what i could see (and read) about FW .253 the "problem" seems to be mostly gone or can at least be minimized through the new display balance settings.
More importantly: as long as you don't have another phone to compare it with you, you most likely won't have as much of a problem with the display as everyone says.
At least i know that i don't have any problems with it, i actually love the display (but i had a Xperia Arc before, so the bigger, brighter screen with its hd resolution is rather impressive in comparrison :cyclops: )
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not only that, but there are 2 things i don't understand with this "viewing angle craze":
1. what person uses their phone while looking at it from a narrow angle ?
i'd say that probably 99% of the time, everyone uses their phone looking more or less straight at the display.
2. when i look at the prices for extra foils that secure the device from people looking over your shoulder... i'd say we already have that feature for FREE !!! (you know, it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE ! ).
Also, from what i could see (and read) about FW .253 the "problem" seems to be mostly gone or can at least be minimized through the new display balance settings.
More importantly: as long as you don't have another phone to compare it with you, you most likely won't have as much of a problem with the display as everyone says.
At least i know that i don't have any problems with it, i actually love the display (but i had a Xperia Arc before, so the bigger, brighter screen with its hd resolution is rather impressive in comparrison :cyclops: )
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The display is fantastic really.
Whilst flashing 253 update and wiping the z, I used my mint GS3 to do some work. Talk about an eye strain looking at text after using the Xperia Z for 2 months.
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M4cb3th said:
not only that, but there are 2 things i don't understand with this "viewing angle craze":
1. what person uses their phone while looking at it from a narrow angle ?
i'd say that probably 99% of the time, everyone uses their phone looking more or less straight at the display.
2. when i look at the prices for extra foils that secure the device from people looking over your shoulder... i'd say we already have that feature for FREE !!! (you know, it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE ! ).
Also, from what i could see (and read) about FW .253 the "problem" seems to be mostly gone or can at least be minimized through the new display balance settings.
More importantly: as long as you don't have another phone to compare it with you, you most likely won't have as much of a problem with the display as everyone says.
At least i know that i don't have any problems with it, i actually love the display (but i had a Xperia Arc before, so the bigger, brighter screen with its hd resolution is rather impressive in comparrison :cyclops: )
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i agree with you,, 99% smartphone users tend to view it straight on..(including me)
IMO for bad viewing angles as they say, well for me its a very good thing,, of course i dont want my seatmate or anyone reading what messages im reading on,, what if you have some transactions with and will probably they will knew about it cause of the better viewing angle.. privacy issues right..
when watching movies or photo viewing, ur not watching a movie tilted..always dead on..
and on topic with ASF,,,i suggest not to remove it.. protection for unwanted scratches yes, but the best thing to do put thin screen protctor on top ASF.. if it wont bother you..
G1_enthusiast said:
dont take it off if you dont have a screen protector replacement...my god that screen attract more oil than my S3+S2 combine! its horrible for a flagship device..
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Have you tried treating your screen with for example a car glass wax? Keeps it free from fingerprints for quite some time without the need to get a screen protector replacement.
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Do people put another screen protector on top of the anti shatter ?
My case came with screen protectors and I dunno if I should apply it
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Have you tried treating your screen with for example a car glass wax? Keeps it free from fingerprints for quite some time without the need to get a screen protector replacement.
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no i try rain-x which have the same property but its still pretty bad.
Saw a brand new Z1 and unboxed it instore in phones4u, and the screen was perfect.
So i jumped the gun and ordered one for my wife from phones.co.uk.
Arrived this morning and tested the display, very good looking head on, but viewing angles are horrendous.
Im in two minds about keeping this, my wife probably not going to be bothered about the viewing angles so i may keep it, but this is a serious flaw in an otherwise amazing handset. Not yet checked camera or anything, this is supposed to be a surprise so dont want it to look used!
If I return it, how long should i wait before getting another one in hope of getting a better display?
Also, where is the fanboy that insisted retail units would be fine and crappy screens were restricted to pre production samples?
You bought the device knowing it had bad viewing angles and making a thread about when it is getting better lol
I'm sure you can answer your own question. You're one funny guy.
So you bought it for your wife. But your using it. So let your wife use it and let her decide. Again you bought it for her.
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Theres no point in opening this kind of threads as sony is not going to come and comment on when the displays will improve..u looked the z1 and u ordered it its ur fault dnt blame sony
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I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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I think it's just because this determines the quality of a display in general. Sony is putting low-quality TN matrices into their devices and that's a phenomenon in mobile world today because all the other manufacturers are using more advanced displays in their high-end devices (HTC, Nokia, LG, Apple - IPS, Samsung, Nokia - OLED). It's not good when you tilt the phone 30 degs. and see strong color degradation. It's not that you look at the screen at an angle all the time but even if you look 5% of the time you want the picture to be good. It's hard to spend money on this device knowing it lacks in this important aspect. This is more strange because the older Z Ultra has better display (IPS probably?).
I also understand this may not be a problem for some and I generally find the Z1 very nice device but waiting impatiently for Sony to improve the display tech.
kashppo said:
I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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Well if the phone is on a table or you're using the phone while lying on bad (just two examples), naturally the phone won't be dead-on your face.
tom369 said:
I think it's just because this determines the quality of a display in general. Sony is putting low-quality TN matrices into their devices and that's a phenomenon in mobile world today because all the other manufacturers are using more advanced displays in their high-end devices (HTC, Nokia, LG, Apple - IPS, Samsung, Nokia - OLED). It's not good when you tilt the phone 30 degs. and see strong color degradation. It's not that you look at the screen at an angle all the time but even if you look 5% of the time you want the picture to be good. It's hard to spend money on this device knowing it lacks in this important aspect. This is more strange because the older Z Ultra has better display (IPS probably?).
I also understand this may not be a problem for some and I generally find the Z1 very nice device but waiting impatiently for Sony to improve the display tech.
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One thing people dont understand is that OLED is not water proof, deteriorates very fast... and sun legibility is next to 0...
FYI Sony is not using TN display they are using VA...
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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I totally agree with each and every word you said! :good: :good:
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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Lol what a bunch of bullocks. How would you explain then the Z Ultra superior viewing angles despite being waterproof as well?
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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This is a load of rubbish, it does not have a poor screen because it is water proof - there are z1's out there with an amazing screen. Unfortunately its a bit of a lottery which type you end up with. The one i saw in the shop was perfect, mine, not so much.
rarsi123 said:
This is a load of rubbish, it does not have a poor screen because it is water proof - there are z1's out there with an amazing screen. Unfortunately its a bit of a lottery which type you end up with. The one i saw in the shop was perfect, mine, not so much.
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To be honest this thread is total rubbish.
Viewing angles, how many people want to look at the phone in any other way than being head on is beyond a joke! But I want to share a movie with me mate or gf, really? It's your bloody phone, it was designed to be looked at head on, not tilted and not really for sharing, we have things called TV's for sharing movies etc.
Another bloody useless thread for whinging babies!!!!
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Morlock O said:
One thing people dont understand is that OLED is not water proof, deteriorates very fast... and sun legibility is next to 0...
FYI Sony is not using TN display they are using VA...
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Like the display type governs whether or not the phone is waterproof.
Waterproofing is something sony has added to their phone, regardless of display type. And yes, the screens in Sony handsets are poor compared to the competition, but not everyone is bothered by this.
I for one can't stand when black is never black but grey, turning more towards light grey if you just tilt it a few degrees.
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Like the display type governs whether or not the phone is waterproof.
Waterproofing is something sony has added to their phone, regardless of display type. And yes, the screens in Sony handsets are poor compared to the competition, but not everyone is bothered by this.
I for one can't stand when black is never black but grey, turning more towards light grey if you just tilt it a few degrees.
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and what do you have to say about yellow turning green
http://timg.eprice.com.tw/tw/mobile..._3_SONY-_1337411f4c51a1320ad7f7ed2c7dea2a.jpg
and red turning brown
http://timg.eprice.com.tw/tw/mobile..._3_SONY-_e112861da9ad118250cf01daceedd6f8.jpg
sauce
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881355/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
if Z1 display is horrible I say OLED is also a scam.
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Saw a brand new Z1 and unboxed it instore in phones4u, and the screen was perfect.
So i jumped the gun and ordered one for my wife from phones.co.uk.
Arrived this morning and tested the display, very good looking head on, but viewing angles are horrendous.
Im in two minds about keeping this, my wife probably not going to be bothered about the viewing angles so i may keep it, but this is a serious flaw in an otherwise amazing handset. Not yet checked camera or anything, this is supposed to be a surprise so dont want it to look used!
If I return it, how long should i wait before getting another one in hope of getting a better display?
Also, where is the fanboy that insisted retail units would be fine and crappy screens were restricted to pre production samples?
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I don't see so much this problem, I'm not using my phone as a TV so view angles are important and the screen is super usable, as said before what I like more than anything else is its LUMINOSITY, is the ONLY phone that can beat the iPhone (actually the best one) under the sun. I prefer less view angles and be able to use my phone outside. That without consider that the screen has really nice colors (and realistic)
ianford10 said:
To be honest this thread is total rubbish.
Viewing angles, how many people want to look at the phone in any other way than being head on is beyond a joke! But I want to share a movie with me mate or gf, really? It's your bloody phone, it was designed to be looked at head on, not tilted and not really for sharing, we have things called TV's for sharing movies etc.
Another bloody useless thread for whinging babies!!!!
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I've been using my Z1 for like 2 weeks now.. Personally, viewing angles are a bit worse compared to the S3 but I still am quite easily able to read stuff at an angle. The yellow hue issue is placeboo really speaking... I have no issue with it to be honest...
Sean473 said:
I've been using my Z1 for like 2 weeks now.. Personally, viewing angles are a bit worse compared to the S3 but I still am quite easily able to read stuff at an angle. The yellow hue issue is placeboo really speaking... I have no issue with it to be honest...
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I can assure you there is a problem with the screen as I have both the xperia z1 and the xperia z and my xperia z has a far better screen with more contrast and colour. I am taking mine in and will be showing them both phones so they can see how bad the screen is.
The OP has spammed and run. delete the thread from the HTC employee.
Dear XDA fellows,
I currently have a Galaxy S2 but scratched its screen last Saturday.
I am thinking of buying a new phone with a low budget (less than 400€) and the Xperia Z seems to be a good phone. It looks resistant, has good specs, a big screen, big battery and is waterproof. But in order to make up my mind I need your opinion as long lime users.
Can you please tell me what you think of that device ?
Especially :
- Batter life
- Any major issue
- Resistance to scratches, drops...
- Possibility of easily flashing custom roms / kernels
- Anything I need to know about the phone
Thanks in advance for your help
Cheers
Battery life is far succeeded by Snapdragon 800 devices. The S4 Pro is getting old and doesn't have anywhere near as good the power management. Scratches are not a problem, mine is pristine after over a year, custom ROMs and stuff are easy to get. The headphone jack needs a flap, whereas the Z1/Compact and Z2 are uncovered. The bezels are quite large and the camera processing needs work (Cybershot add-ons by the community are here though). I'd go for the Z1 Compact, performance will be much better with the (still very high quality) 720p screen and much better processor. The camera is the same as in the Z1 (and Z2 if I'm not mistaken). The Z1C also fixed issues regarding the screen viewing angles (I've never noticed any issues with my Z, and have compared it side by side to a Z1).
mastawindu said:
Especially :
- Batter life
- Any major issue
- Resistance to scratches, drops...
- Possibility of easily flashing custom roms / kernels
- Anything I need to know about the phone
Thanks in advance for your help
Cheers
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My Xperia Z experience:
- Been using it for 13 months now
- Never used a case
- Screen protectors on both front and back from day one
- Dropped the phone: twice
Now to answer your questions:
- Battery life: satisfactory. It's on par with most smartphones really. 1 day of intensive use and 2 days of slight use. Surprisingly, after over a year, I didn't notice a drop of battery life.
- Major issues: poor viewing angles, you will get used to it, but it's a bit annoying sometimes.
- Resistance to scratches: if you're going to use screen protectors - nothing to worry about. If you're not going to use a screen protector - you're going to pretty much f... your phone as there a shatterproof film on it, and that gets scratched easily. So just stick the bundled protector on the front and the back and you're ready to go and safe for months. Drops ? Surprisingly resistant. After first drop it suffered a small dent on the side as it hit metal chair support directly. Decond drop - facet front on concrete - nothing happened apart from me having to replace the screen protector. The frame around the phone is ridiculously hard to scratch.
- Custom roms: very easy, full cyanogenmod support - remember that you will lose Bravia engine forever once you onlock the bootloader.
- Anything you need to know: not much really. It's a very good device with some minor flaws and a less then perfect screen. The speaker is not very loud, maybe that. Oh, and KitKat is coming in May.
Would I recommend the phone after using if for almost 14 months ? When I bought it, Sony asked a hefty £549 for it. And for that price, I would say no, at least not now of course. But for ~£300 - as it sells now - I would definitely recommend it if you don't really need the "latest and greatest". It's a good phone with some flaws, but in general a good value for your money.
Would I choose Z over Z1 Compact ? Yes, definitely, because of 5" screen - and this is up to you what size you prefer. Can't go wrong with any of them.
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Battery life is far succeeded by Snapdragon 800 devices. The S4 Pro is getting old and doesn't have anywhere near as good the power management. Scratches are not a problem, mine is pristine after over a year, custom ROMs and stuff are easy to get. The headphone jack needs a flap, whereas the Z1/Compact and Z2 are uncovered. The bezels are quite large and the camera processing needs work (Cybershot add-ons by the community are here though). I'd go for the Z1 Compact, performance will be much better with the (still very high quality) 720p screen and much better processor. The camera is the same as in the Z1 (and Z2 if I'm not mistaken). The Z1C also fixed issues regarding the screen viewing angles (I've never noticed any issues with my Z, and have compared it side by side to a Z1).
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Wrong. The Z has a good battery life, the bezels are far from beeing big and it's smooth and has a great build quality.
Also S800 has worse battery life due to the much higher clocks, i'm speaking of experience.
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Ofc what above user has said is true.. Z1 is a flop because of the viewing angles and bad battery life than actual h/w capability.. Due to more power consumption by the s/w.. XZ is far better in terms of power management and build quality than XZ1.. Hence XZ2 is here.. But still doubtful as if it would be a hit or another Z1 itself.. But one should also know that Z has been built well, first of its kind.. Waterproof works very well, but u should be very careful with the flaps and the rubber inside.. And also not a hiccup in the UI, no lags at all.. Battery life is good enough.. Use some battery saving techniques.. And Camera is quite awesome if u use the perfect settings manually although Superior Auto works better only with daylight.. It brings a lot of awesome features if u really like photography.. Camera 2 is one app which made me remove all photo editing apps on my phone.. I love music quality and Movies app supports all video formats which helps a lot.. Display is crisp and with 441ppi and Auto Brightness u can easily be able to use the phone under bright sunlight with not much of a problem.. Also the device has a lot of support from different communities and SONY actually does care for XZ more than XZ1(This is a fact provided by one of SONY devs whom i know).. Hence nothing to worry.. U will not regret buying a XZ.. Just a suggestion, be gentle with flaps.. They arent very friendly..
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And also not a hiccup in the UI, no lags at all.. Battery life is good enough.. Use some battery saving techniques... And camera is quite awesome... I love music quality and Movies app supports all video formats which helps a lot..
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There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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No lags here [emoji15]
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There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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No lags here too! For me it is smooth and stable.
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There's plenty of "lags" in the UI, opening the app draw and closing an ago to get to the homescreen gets regular slowdown. The camera is grainy, nowhere near as good as any competitors. Music quality depends on the files you play, the Walkman app can't suddenly make some crappy, turn-of-the-century downloaded MP3s sound good quality. The movie app definitely doesn't support all formats, that's a lie.
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You must have somehow messed up your ROM.. But here, as well as the other couple of users never experienced any lag.. Not a hiccup as i say again.. And my Walkman plays all audio formats except for WMA and WAV which are utter poor quality formats hence i don't care.. And also Movies app doesn't play only one format WMV which i also don't care, but till date i have downloaded more than 500 movies atleast.. None of them gave me the problem of Not playing.. All videos play on my device with Movies app itself.. And most importantly, when copying from PC i don't select to convert and copy.. I just copy..
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You must have somehow messed up your ROM.. But here, as well as the other couple of users never experienced any lag.. Not a hiccup as i say again.. And my Walkman plays all audio formats except for WMA and WAV which are utter poor quality formats hence i don't care.. And also Movies app doesn't play only one format WMV which i also don't care, but till date i have downloaded more than 500 movies atleast.. None of them gave me the problem of Not playing.. All videos play on my device with Movies app itself.. And most importantly, when copying from PC i don't select to convert and copy.. I just copy..
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So you watched loads of movies and claimed that it will play every format? Come on, get it together.
I bought mine 2 weeks ago for 308 Euros, brand new. I must say the build quality is excellent. Battery is very good.Display is perfect, also outside.
I am coming from an LG Optimus 2x.which served me for over 2 years without any problems. But the XZ is a complete new experience. I am so happy i went for this one.
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So you watched loads of movies and claimed that it will play every format? Come on, get it together.
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Wt i meant was i never converted any videos.. And it played AVI,MKV,FLV,MP4,etc without probs.. Peace.. :angel:
Bought it !
Hi guys,
Following your good feedback I bought the Xperia Z and I have to say it is an excellent phone. Sony definitely made a milestone with this device, IMHO it surpasses Samsung in terms of quality (hardware and software) and premium feel.
Thanks to everyone who took time to give me some advises in this thread.:good:
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XZ is far better in terms of power management and build quality than XZ1..
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Z is better than Z1 in build quality? Give me a break man. Z1 is far better in build quality, believe me (I had Z1). Aluminium frame and better glass give a much better feeling of quality and premium look than the Xperia Z (polycarbonate plastics and "plastic" glass).
I dunno about the the build quality but the z has a clean design like a smooth car now they throw some chrome on it and call it z1 and it became ugly again..... It's not always progress.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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I dunno about the the build quality but the z has a clean design like a smooth car now they throw some chrome on it and call it z1 and it became ugly again..... It's not always progress.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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Theres no chrome on Z1, only brushed aluminium. And Z1 is one of the best looking phones in Xperia line out there. Did you even try to hold Z1 and compare it with Z?
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Theres no chrome on Z1, only brushed aluminium. And Z1 is one of the best looking phones in Xperia line out there. Did you even try to hold Z1 and compare it with Z?
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It is figure of speech, yes I owned one to for 3 months and it is a wonderful phone but still I think the z is smoother and cleaner. You can get mad that I do not agree with you.... Some people like flashy things and some don't. I don't.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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It is figure of speech, yes I owned one to for 3 months and it is a wonderful phone but still I think the z is smoother and cleaner. You can get mad that I do not agree with you.... Some people like flashy things and some don't. I don't.
my name is Luxor, and i'm a flashoholic.
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I'm not mad, everyone has their own opinion.
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Z is better than Z1 in build quality? Give me a break man. Z1 is far better in build quality, believe me (I had Z1). Aluminium frame and better glass give a much better feeling of quality and premium look than the Xperia Z (polycarbonate plastics and "plastic" glass).
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Plastic glass, my friend.. Less prone to get broken.. I have seen more defective Z1's with broken glass due to heating.. Z's internal design is better.. Z1's internal motherboard circuit has GPU next to CPU and hence heats more.. Z's Camera is next to CPU, hence Z heats more when Camera is ON.. Sony's design in motherboard has to get better..
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Plastic glass, my friend.. Less prone to get broken.. I have seen more defective Z1's with broken glass due to heating.. Z's internal design is better.. Z1's internal motherboard circuit has GPU next to CPU and hence heats more.. Z's Camera is next to CPU, hence Z heats more when Camera is ON.. Sony's design in motherboard has to get better..
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Heating on Z and Z1 during heavy gaming is almost the same, and that is good because Z1 CPU clocks on higher freq. and I never had problem with overheating. I worked in official Sony repair center so you don't need to explain me difference between motherboard design on Z and Z1.
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Anyone regret getting it?
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Anyone regret getting it?
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Only thing I dont like is that the USB C port cutout is too sharp. When I hold it with my finger, it seem to cut it at times
No regrets at all. Just AOSP rom would be a lot better, which should arrive soon.
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
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Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
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I've seen the Pelosi case online. The product images looked like the case didn't offer much in terms of protection, especially around the screen. Also the material seemed to be very light, possibly to keep the case slim. The case looks good and I was tempted to buy. I didn't because of these reasons.
But if you have the case and its good, please post photos in my thread. Link
I created that thread as there are very few good cases available for this device and if everyone could post photos of what case and screen protector they had on the device, it would help other buyers too.
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The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
nikhil.mehta said:
There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
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That's the Love Mei Powerful case! I saw it a few days back on ebay. Mine is on the way from China. Did you get it too?
It should arrive next week. Have you ordered this too?
The case is a bit large though.
Please post pictures of your current setup on this thread and also if you happen to receive the Love Mei case before me.
Check out the case I am currently using. I have added photos here. Also available on ebay.
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I did, until I got the unlock approval. I immediately flashed the xiaomi.eu rom and (most) of my gripes were dealt with; being android auto not working and horrible background battery drain. I still hate the home screen icon backgrounds, the fact it wont rotate, and the stock dpi... but other than that I am happy, for now.
My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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I just tried 320DPI, oh man, I love it!!! It even fixed my News360 app that I love but would only show me 2 articles per screen on this phone and now shows 6!
The only downside is that top status bar with the clock and battery and such is pretty small. But that's certainly a good compromise as the reset of the phone looks normal now, all I did was bump the UI font size up from small to medium and it all looks great.
All of the icons appear to be working fine, but I use Nova Launcher, so maybe that why.
320 DPI is pretty much a standard DPI for android, and so I expect alot of apps are tuned for that DPI.
Thanks for the great suggestion! The phone looks like a normal phone now....
Received mine today. I thought I could get by without a case but no way. It's slippery! Luckily a case came with it.
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The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Those are some good clicks mate! Like I said, camera was not a priority for me when I bought this device. I usually don't use my phone cameras a lot and only for some occasional snaps.. I knew that this device had an inferior camera compared to the competition.
Most people usually depend on their phone's camera for random clicks like when your drunk friend is doing something funny at a party or when it appears as if your dog is smiling. Random events like these, when you may not have your dedicated camera at hand. That's when your phone's camera is handy. And for casual spur of the moment clicks like these, this phone's camera is quite unreliable. In most cases those moments you intended to capture would end up as a blurry or noisy mess.
Like you said, if you put enough effort, you may be able to get a few good shots like you just shared. But that was not my point as it defeats the purpose of a phone's camera.
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I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Jeez, nothing wrong with those at all.
I agree as well. Took a few shots and pics look fine. From all the reviews, I was expecting worse.
Best phone I've ever owned.
iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5 -> HTC One -> Samsung S5 LTE-A -> Note 7 (pretty nice) -> Xiaomi Mi Mix.
This thing is a MONSTER. Fast as hell, best battery I've ever seen (better than the Note 7), humongous display, sexy as build quality, tons of RAM, tons of fast memory, fast charging, etc. I'm surprised this exists.