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SGNote hardware seems more innovative+lustworthy than the Galaxy Nexus, how long before I can check this out in person in a US store?
Will it come to the US with LTE option & ICS without significant compromises in Jan-Feb?
My EVO could really use an upgrade especially as I get "Insufficient storage available" errors..
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There have been various rumors that it may come to AT&T. While I still feel it's unlikely (not going to turn this into a long post, read some of my past ones if you want reasoning) the other day someone posted that the manager in their AT&T store claimed AT&T would be getting it in March or April. Believable, considering the delay in getting the GSII. I'm very happy I went with the international one and will have enjoyed it for 6 months before AT&T even offers it. If they offer it, of which, as I said, I'm still skeptical. By then I'll be looking at the next big thing; GSIII, Note2, or something. AT&T sucks big ones.
Expect an inferior processor and outrageous data+voice plan changes from AT&T. I suspect they will create a new class of plans for the Note, since the drones at ATT seem to view it as a tablet which seemingly gives them the right to rape you on plan pricing (psst: it's a smartphone)
I imported mine. Have now, grapple with issues about the device being classified as a tablet. That's a fight I'm willing to take on since even if it launches officially in April 2012, it will suck along with pricing.
The US is so behind and archaic with mobile technology. Very embarrassing.
I was wondering how much more was known than:
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-note-detailed-for-att-4g-lte
I can likely wait 3 weeks to see if news happens at:
http://www.cesweb.org/press/events/press_event_detail.asp?ID=784
AT&T's official US version should have both HSPA+ & LTE so if battery conservation becomes more of a priority I could turn LTE off & go with HSPA+ right?
I'm generally not the biggest fan of Samsung's Super AMOLED screens as the colors look unnatural to me but this device looks like the most innovative sexy handheld (tiny bezel flatscreen touchTV in my hand with bonus pen functionality) {just as the Asus Transformer Prime looks like the most innovative tablet-book that I'm also eager to see in person}, so do the less natural colors bother anyone?
-Thanks
You heard it here first...January.
Samsung Galaxy Note Reaching US Shores in January!
Dec 17, 2011
Samsung Galaxy Note is the perfect choice for folks who want a cross between a smartphone and a tablet. The Note features a huge 5.3-inch display that satisfies this requirement. This device caused quite a stir when it was unveiled at the Mobile World Congress. But now lots of people have snapped it up since it became available in Europe and in the Middle East countries such as Jordan.
Now, you folks in the U.S. don’t need to feel envious anymore because the Samsung Galaxy Note is heading your shores this January! The SGH-I171 will be in AT&T’s shelves next month.
As such, it’s going to run on AT&T’s newly-launched LTE network. However, take note of this, it’s not going to have the Samsung Exynos chip instead it will be powered by a dual-core 15GHz Qualcomm MSM8660 processor! Exactly why AT&T would do that is unclear.
And the changes don’t stop there! According to Pocketnow, the Galaxy Note will also have a new look when it launches in the U.S. It will have the four main buttons menu, home, back, and search that a lot of you folks have gotten used to.
Linky:http://www.waleg.com/techgadgets/archives/024945.html
Disclaimer; I have no idea how accurate this info is. I'm a little skeptical as they site no reference at all save the now well known Pocketnow article which didn't give an exact US eta so...but I can't wait to get my hands on that 15Ghz chip!!! LOL
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You heard it here first...January.
Samsung Galaxy Note Reaching US Shores in January!
Dec 17, 2011
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Linky:http://www.waleg.com/techgadgets/archives/024945.html
Disclaimer; I have no idea how accurate this info is. I'm a little skeptical as they site no reference at all save the now well known Pocketnow article which didn't give an exact US eta so...but I can't wait to get my hands on that 15Ghz chip!!! LOL
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No other reference, good luck... Someone else said the manager at their AT&T store knew about the Note and said it was coming in March or April. I most likely will have been using mine for 6 months before AT&T has one available. IF they release one.
You do know that 1.5 GHz Qualcomm chip is a downgrade compared to the 1.4 GHz Exynos chip in our international version, don't you? They put that same chip in the SGSII when making a LTE version, and it was a downgrade compared to the 1.2 GHz Exynos in the international SGSII; it's going to be a serious downgrade to the 1.4 GHz version. Clock speed isn't everything, and in this case is misleading. They have to switch chips in order to implement LTE, as the Exynos doesn't support it, but otherwise the Exynos is superior.
Btw, on HSPA+ I got 10 Mbit down last night while out to eat downtown (though just 1.5 Mbit up.)
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No other reference, good luck... Someone else said the manager at their AT&T store knew about the Note and said it was coming in March or April. I most likely will have been using mine for 6 months before AT&T has one available. IF they release one.
You do know that 1.5 GHz Qualcomm chip is a downgrade compared to the 1.4 GHz Exynos chip in our international version, don't you? They put that same chip in the SGSII when making a LTE version, and it was a downgrade compared to the 1.2 GHz Exynos in the international SGSII; it's going to be a serious downgrade to the 1.4 GHz version. Clock speed isn't everything, and in this case is misleading. They have to switch chips in order to implement LTE, as the Exynos doesn't support it, but otherwise the Exynos is superior.
Btw, on HSPA+ I got 10 Mbit down last night while out to eat downtown (though just 1.5 Mbit up.)
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Oh yes, that's why I'll be getting the International, unlocked version (just trying to help out the OP). I was holding out a shred of hope that Samsung might be releasing a version with a 1.5Exynos (with LTE capability) but they have decided to go with the Snapdragon and I believe that especially on a device like this every bit of speed matters so they can keep that. They did the same thing with the Skyrocket...slower chip.
I believe the 1.5 Exynos will also be a quad core, hope they put that bad boy in the second version of the Note, if there is one. Wish they had made the Galaxy line with upgradable CPU's. I guess the CPU is wave soldered in and can't be changed? Probably wouldn't be compatable with the current chipset anyway if it was going from a dual core to quad core though.
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I'm going to try to get the international version, if at&t actually releases it.
I'd rather have an uncrippled version anyway.
Hopefully, if/when at&t releases it, the "confusion" over blocking it as a phone will be cleared up by then.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
"no built-in switch could be found on the Skyrocket" but "we tested the battery on both LTE and HSPA+ and came away happy in each instance".."we're confident that using the Skyrocket moderately in an LTE area will get you through your full workday and may even keep you going until bedtime".."we determined that LTE still has a detrimental effect on AT&T's smartphones, but we were just as impressed with this device's battery life in both scenarios"
"Another wild card in the Skyrocket's performance is the 1.5GHz Qualcomm APQ8060 (Snapdragon S3) CPU and accompanying Adreno 220 GPU, the same SoC setup as we saw on T-Mo's flavor. How does it hold up against the almighty Exynos processor found in so many of the other members of the Galaxy S II family? Pretty well, actually. While we've had a strong admiration for the processing prowess of Samsung's homegrown silicon, the Skyrocket's chip isn't anywhere close to a slouch either. In fact, unless you're paying close attention, you probably won't even notice a difference at all. The Qualcomm-powered device handled itself well throughout our menial myriad of tasks and didn't skip a beat.
The Skyrocket booted up in 25 seconds and was incredibly responsive from that time forward. Not once did the phone crash during our graphics-intensive activities, nor did it hiccup at any point in our multitasking. Animations were smooth as butter, as was the touch responsiveness. Let's check out a few other benchmark results for a closer look:
Benchmark Galaxy S II Skyrocket AT&T Galaxy S II T-Mobile Galaxy S II HTC Vivid
Quadrant (higher is better) 3,334 3,372 2,576 2,129
Linpack (MFLOPS) 50.6 55.0 42.0 44.5
Linpack (MFLOPS) 77.4 81.0 70.0 50.9
Nenamark (fps) 59.8 59.8 59.8 47.3
Nenamark2 (fps) 54.1 N/A 53.8 26.6
Neocore (fps) 57.7 59.8 57.0 58.0
Sunspider (ms - lower is better) 3,115 3,369 2,407 4,095"
It would be nice to see it in person regardless of which I elect & I should likely wait for CES news ..
-Appreciate the discourse
I anti haven't pulled the trigger on this one but I pose a few questions to all those who have the 8X...
Is it worth the money?
Do u see a sizable number of apps in the marketplace with the quality you expected?
Any serious improvements from WP7?
Here are some of the reasons I still haven't jumped the boat..
1. Price - I think the specs are just sub-standard. Dual-core, 4.3" etc are all a year old easily. But had it come cheap i would have been like OK...but the damn thing coats a fortune...
2. The quality and quantity of apps sucked when I had WP7. Not sure how it is now..
3. Future. What happened to WP7 is an open secret ...left mid-way, stranded on an island... not sure how far MS plans to take ahead WP8 first gen devices...(update-wise)..
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The Snapdragon S4 Plus Dual-Core has been announced in February this year, been included in the first phones in April and performs pretty much the same or better than the Quadcore Nvidia Tegra 3. So the hardware performance is in no way lacking. The only phones that have a more powerful hardware at the moment are the Nexus 4 and LG Optimus G which use the Quadcore variant of the same Chip (Qualcomm Krait Core).
Aside from that it uses the Camera-assembly of the HTC One X, uses a 720p RGB display that is second in pixel density only to a single Sony phone so I don't see too much of it's components to be substandard after all (even leaving the "system is optimized for the hardware it runs on" argument aside).
The SDK for WP8 has only been available to most developers since Monday last week, the Marketplace is accepting new Apps since Friday. So the App situation is currently pretty much the same as on WP7.
On 3 no one can give you a definitive answer (which you might know as you have posed the same question over and over again previously).
Following that iFixit teardown of the Nexus 4, it looks like LG and Google did kit out their new flagship with LTE after all—at least, there's a Qualcomm multi-band LTE chip in there—it's just not active. But why whack in a 4G chip and not bother to use it?
There are a couple of theories. The first is network restriction: perhaps one or more mobile carriers have called dibs on an LTE-equipped version to be "released" at a later date. Another theory, as suggested by Ars Technica is that LG's just left the chip in there as a throw over from the Optimus G, on which the Nexus 4 is based, to reduce manufacturing streams. That's possible, but why put a chip in there that costs you extra cash if you weren't going to use it?
On the bright side, perhaps now we'll have a reason for people to actually root stock Android. Maybe, just maybe, someone will be able to activate that dormant LTE chip and gift the Nexus 4 with 4G. That really would make Google's flagship absolutely killer. (Update: As eagle-eyed readers have pointed out, an LTE chip is of limited use without an LTE radio. Maybe someone can hack that together, too...?)[iFixit via Ars Technica]
http://goo.gl/7fegr
What do you guys think about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996994
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Apparently, there have been some rumors floating around the last few weeks about a new version of the Nexus 4 being released to address storage space issue.
...But besides that, it seems that Google is also sneaking in CDMA support, meaning those of us stuck on Verizon might finally have a chance at this.
Has anyone else heard the rumors? What do you think? Supposedly, there's slated to be a presentation at Google I/O about the new Nexus 4, focusing on its support for Key Lime Pie. So, we'll find out definitively one way or another in a couple weeks. However, until then, speculation might as well run rampant.
Links:
http://www.sidhtech.com/news/lg-nexus-5-4-verizon-sprint/1003003/
There was a second article about it floating around a couple weeks ago, but I haven't been able to find it. I'll link it here if I stumble upon it again.
No.
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daft_inquisitor said:
Apparently, there have been some rumors floating around the last few weeks about a new version of the Nexus 4 being released to address storage space issue.
...But besides that, it seems that Google is also sneaking in CDMA support, meaning those of us stuck on Verizon might finally have a chance at this.
Has anyone else heard the rumors? What do you think? Supposedly, there's slated to be a presentation at Google I/O about the new Nexus 4, focusing on its support for Key Lime Pie. So, we'll find out definitively one way or another in a couple weeks. However, until then, speculation might as well run rampant.
Links:
http://www.sidhtech.com/news/lg-nexus-5-4-verizon-sprint/1003003/
There was a second article about it floating around a couple weeks ago, but I haven't been able to find it. I'll link it here if I stumble upon it again.
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Google IO starts in 26 days... Rumors = Bull****
But I have to admit I can't wait for Key Lime Pie...
It wouldn't make any sense to release a new Nexus phone and a new version of the old model...
Storage space issue? What? There is Google Drive (or SkyDrive, Dropbox etc.) And what do you expect for the low price of the Nexus 4... (of course the hardware is great)
Anyway I hope that the new Nexus phone won’t be a 5inch eek plastic crap like the Samsung S4, the LG Nexus is perfect hope they stay on this design.
Nexus 5 with CDMA might be more reasonable...
16GB can't be short for a bunch of apps...
daft_inquisitor said:
Apparently, there have been some rumors floating around the last few weeks about a new version of the Nexus 4 being released to address storage space issue.
...But besides that, it seems that Google is also sneaking in CDMA support, meaning those of us stuck on Verizon might finally have a chance at this.
Has anyone else heard the rumors? What do you think? Supposedly, there's slated to be a presentation at Google I/O about the new Nexus 4, focusing on its support for Key Lime Pie. So, we'll find out definitively one way or another in a couple weeks. However, until then, speculation might as well run rampant.
Links:
http://www.sidhtech.com/news/lg-nexus-5-4-verizon-sprint/1003003/
There was a second article about it floating around a couple weeks ago, but I haven't been able to find it. I'll link it here if I stumble upon it again.
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Your link doesn't say anything about a new version of the Nexus 4 but that the Nexus 5 is only going to be a beefed up version of the Nexus 4. Kind of like what Apple did with the iPhone 4S.
kzoodroid said:
Your link doesn't say anything about a new version of the Nexus 4 but that the Nexus 5 is only going to be a beefed up version of the Nexus 4. Kind of like what Apple did with the iPhone 4S.
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Did you... read the article?
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I actually did not read the last few sentences and its all just rumors anyways. It doesn't make sense as they would have to add not only a CDMA chip but also LTE as Verizon would never let it on its network without it. Just adding CDMA alone could drive the price up at least another $50-60 from what it is now let alone what adding LTE would cost. You would be looking at a $500 phone, more likely $600 as Verizon wouldn't let Google sell it through the play store. And that would also mean Google would have to re-submit the phone to the FCC for approval for LTE. Just not going to happen as the Nexus 5 is just around the corner and will be announced in about a month anyways.
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Just not going to happen as the Nexus 5 is just around the corner and will be announced in about a month anyways.
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Why do think the Nexus 5 will be announced in about a month? They have never announced new Nexus devices until sometime in Q4 of the calendar year, traditionally in the November to December timeframe.
I've been seeing some of these rumors and I really hope it's true. I have the S3 on sprint now but I can't wait to get a stock android phone. LTE and sprint support and I'm in IMO the one and s4 are just more of the same and I really don't like OEM ui overlays. Also I don't see Google announcing a new nexus 5 next month so this seems somewhat plausible...kind of how the ns4g came to the party a little later
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Rod3 said:
Why do think the Nexus 5 will be announced in about a month? They have never announced new Nexus devices until sometime in Q4 of the calendar year, traditionally in the November to December timeframe.
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There are rumors that Google will introduce the Nexus 5 or an LTE version of the Nexus 4 at Google I/O in May. They typically show something off at that event, last year it was the Nexus 7. Also I don't really see a CDMA version of the Nexus 4, just an LTE/GSM version as Verizon is very anal about anything on its network and usually tests the crap out of it for months before they will release it. Look at the GNex disaster for a hint of how Nexus devices get introduced and supported on Verizon. And yes typically Q4 is when Nexus phones are announced and released but specs usually start leaking out months in advance. And if the Nexus 4 LTE rumors were true someone would have shown off Googles application to the FCC to license it by now for sure. Usually some android website shows off with a "look what showed up at the FCC" post. So it's just speculation on my part that at I/O Google will show off an LTE Nexus 5.
Given that a lot of manufacturers are moving to 6-month update cycles instead of annual update cycles, it may not be surprising if google does the same with its nexus line up, with 6 month incremental update cycles and annual major revision cycles.
Will it have better battery life? That is what I care about the most!
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Well, they could build the n5 as a world phone with quad band gsm, CDMA, bands 1, 4, and 17 lte and such, then add 64gb of storage sell it for 500$ and I'd be in
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zeroxia said:
Nexus 5 with CDMA might be more reasonable...
16GB can't be short for a bunch of apps...
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But practical..no...the US is the only country that uses it...
kzoodroid said:
Your link doesn't say anything about a new version of the Nexus 4 but that the Nexus 5 is only going to be a beefed up version of the Nexus 4. Kind of like what Apple did with the iPhone 4S.
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Or like any phone replacing the previous phone
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kzoodroid said:
There are rumors that Google will introduce the Nexus 5 or an LTE version of the Nexus 4 at Google I/O in May. They typically show something off at that event, last year it was the Nexus 7. Also I don't really see a CDMA version of the Nexus 4, just an LTE/GSM version as Verizon is very anal about anything on its network and usually tests the crap out of it for months before they will release it. Look at the GNex disaster for a hint of how Nexus devices get introduced and supported on Verizon. And yes typically Q4 is when Nexus phones are announced and released but specs usually start leaking out months in advance. And if the Nexus 4 LTE rumors were true someone would have shown off Googles application to the FCC to license it by now for sure. Usually some android website shows off with a "look what showed up at the FCC" post. So it's just speculation on my part that at I/O Google will show off an LTE Nexus 5.
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Your points about the the nexus 7 makes it more likely that we see a refresh of it at I/O as it is already a year old.
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Your points about the the nexus 7 makes it more likely that we see a refresh of it at I/O as it is already a year old.
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Exactly. There isn't going to be a new nexus phone. Maybe the Motorola X, but not a new nexus. The nexus 7 will be refreshed though.
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AshtonTS said:
Exactly. There isn't going to be a new nexus phone. Maybe the Motorola X, but not a new nexus. The nexus 7 will be refreshed though.
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Android Police or Droidlife, I forget which, had an article about this rumor which was more informative than the link provided. They said Google usually introduces non-phone hardware at I/O so like you say a re-fresh of the Nexus 7 or other tablet device is what they will show off.
I thought Google was going big on Google TV this I/O? 2nd gen nexus 7 is needed and I'm guessing a nexus Google TV device.
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There is already a CDMA Optimus G, so it wouldn't be too much work for Google.
I was looking at the NV Item in the Qualcomm modem on my N4, and it had quite a few references to Verizon. Which seems a bit weird other than perhaps it being a legacy of the Optimus G CDMA version when the N4 was being developed.
As for CDMA, I'll give my usual rant that it's a dead technology even according to its standards body (3GPP2). Plus the whole eHRPD thing is just a complete mess, it tries to emulate core GSM network components for circuit switched fallback
All the CDMA providers should be racing to deploy LTE everywhere so they can switch people permanently to LTE and get rid of circuit switched fallback to CDMA.
I tried the nexus 6 and I am not the phablet guy. I prefer a mobile(music player, camera, torch, calling & messaging device) and tablet(reading & youtube).
I was told by a salesman that Google plans to release the Nexus 5 2014 or 2015 version with better CPU & RAM. Is it true??? I googled to find some confirmation about that from google but nothing from anyone.
I am planning to buy a mobile and was trying to choose between MotoX & N5. If a new version of N5 is coming, I would prefer that. I like the Pure Android version over that of HTC or Samsung.
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I tried the nexus 6 and I am not the phablet guy. I prefer a mobile(music player, camera, torch, calling & messaging device) and tablet(reading & youtube).
I was told by a salesman that Google plans to release the Nexus 5 2014 or 2015 version with better CPU & RAM. Is it true??? I googled to find some confirmation about that from google but nothing from anyone.
I am planning to buy a mobile and was trying to choose between MotoX & N5. If a new version of N5 is coming, I would prefer that. I like the Pure Android version over that of HTC or Samsung.
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Nexus 5 2014 or 2015 may happen or may not, now it's all assumptions. I haven't even heard a rumor about it. Since they have refreshed the Nexus 7 with 2013 edition, it might happen in the case of Nexus 5. Moto X 2014 edition is good phone than Nexus 5. This doesn't mean nexus 5 is totally bad. Moto X 2014 is slightly better.
As it stands now the Nexus 5 still a very very good phone, the current 801's such as the S5, M8 ect aren't all that much ahead in terms of specs they have the same GPU same amount of memory in most, only real noticeable difference being it clocked slightly higher.
And i very much doubt we see the 805, as this will take sales away from the Nexus 6.
If there is to be a refresh it probably only happen around November 2015, when we could see the latest Snapdragon be it 811, 815 or 820 in a 5 or 5.2" device with 4GB of ram and a QHD screen, which would be a proper upgrade to the Nexus 5.
As I've mentioned before the Moto X 2014 is only a side step to the Nexus 5 & tbh your just wasting money if you change to that.
To be honest I wouldn't wish a better CPU or more RAM on refreshed Nexus 5 but a better battery and camera maybe
@dudaka: Battery, ofcourse. Dual-sim, maybe a nice topping. Memory card, I desperately need it.
Thank alot to everyone for your feedback. I just wanted to know how much truth was there to the rumour.
I think the rumor is true. Google is still advertising the Nexus 5 on the Play Store, I expect to see a 2015 Nexus 5 at some point when new SOCs become available.
As of now, the 800 is still rocking. The real benefit of the 805 is the beefier GPU required for 1440p screens. If you don't play games, the 805 is hardly an improvement for a 1080p device.
Also, I hope google stays at 1080p and focuses on power efficiency, color accuracy and outdoor readability rather than pulling a LG G3.
A similar thread exists for this here. Please use it instead of having two seperate threads for the same discussion.
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