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Sorry if this is the wrong place but i wasn't quite sure where it fits in if its as its not specifically directed towards the nexus one.
I've got my nexus one and i've had it since feb, enjoying the phone quite a lot at the moment. i'm in the UK and my contract will be up for renewal come December (I can upgrade in November though).
What i'm wondering is what Android phone's & tablets will be available around that time. I'm not quite sure where to start looking.
I'm quite interested in getting a tablet e.g. something like the Dell Looking Glass which i think will be out in November from the leaks i've seen!
A friend of mine has the Dell Streak which seems ok although i'm not convinced on the size for a phone.
I'd quite like to have an Evo 4G but that would be pointless in this country
Why not stick with the NexusOne?
Or maybe wait until November when we actually know what will be available in November?
I probably will as a main phone but if I can get a tablet maybe...
yea but i was also wondering if there had been any leaked stuff with what maybe coming out
I dunno its kind of a stupid question
Well, there's a new iPhone coming out.
*giggles*
Why do we have to endure weeks of waiting for the release of a new Samsung device when it has been announced? All those people at the unpacked event waving the Note 4 and Edge around on stage or within the experience stands make me jealous but also make me angry.
I never see why the phones/devices cannot be on the shelves within a week of an announcement for contract free purchases. I understand there might be negotiations with carriers but why stop those with the cash in their hands?
I also would love to know who decides on which country gets a certain device and when.
Samsung is particularly bad at this. They drag their heels with pricing, release dates and availability. Surely this can be all in place prior to their events.
It's not wrong, you're right!
Apple does very well
I know. How long does it take to mole the circuit board, etc?
Its potential for cash cow. People say Oct 5th for T-mobile. Thats 4 weeks too long.
This is one thing Apple actually does very well. Release date generally follows announcement by less than 2 weeks. Pre-orders start just a few days after the announcement.
It is very annoying. I wish they'd just wait to announce until they're closer to release. Who cares if it leaks during production? Samsung isn't as bad as LG tho, they are terrible.
This article is another reason why the wait is irritating. http://www.gsmarena.com/nvidia_files_a_patent_lawsuit_against_samsung_and_qualcomm-news-9564.php
Samsung is terrible at this. Apple has almost always released within earshot knowing the hypetrain is still there. By the time Note 4 arrives iPhone6 will be on shelves. Noone outside the geekworld is hyped about a Note 4. Even casuals know a new and bigger iPhone are coming. After the S5 dissaponting sales you'd think Samsung would pull out all stops.
Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
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preorders are already open on the sprint website and have been for a couple days http://www.sprint.com/landings/samsung_note4/index.html?ECID=vanity:galaxynote4
blame the carrier if yours isn't available for preorder yet.
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for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Well I already stated that I understood why there was a delay for carrier testing but I am talking about those who wish to buy outright. And if Apple and HTC can get their stock out shortly after announcements then why can't Samsung? Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
The devices shown at the launch were not prototypes, the production process has already begun and could have been stepped up prior to the launch.
Also, it still does not answer the question on pricing, release dates and country availability (for carrier free devices) these things need to be finalised before launch or very shortly after. In my opinion it's all just a tactic to build up some sort of hype
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Preorder is not the same thing. I only see registration for email alert. Same as T-mobile.
I find it strange that Cellphone carriers do not even concentrate in advertizing for the release of the Note 4.
This is why its nice not having carriers mess and install a bunch of bloat. I don't think carriers mess around with iPhones and install their software on it, so less time wasted on things you don't need or care about. Just get the product out and sell it.
Anyways, just poor planning really, a month is a long time in the tech world and consumer electronic hype wears off fairly fast when something else new and shiny comes out in between then.
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Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
Thats why i am getting the Iphone 6 over the Note 4, it'll be available sooner and i need a high end phone bad. Good thing is ill be able to sell the iphone 6 at a great price and pick up the note 4 when its out.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
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There is no answer other than that is how samsung chooses to do it.
Could they hold the announcement closer to the physical release? Yes, of course they could. They just prefer to do it this way, for whatever marketing reason.
If the marketing people thought it was strategic to announce closer to physical release, they would. But clearly they don't.
If Samsung "should" copy something apple does, its their method of announcing and SHIPPING a product very quickly post launch. That is their only major issue. Why allow other OEM's to get product out the door and lose sales and yes they do lose sales and now that apple is going big and bigger on their phones next week with a launch before the Note 4 hits stores that is a big deal and some would be Note 4 buyers will get a 5.5" iphone instead, (dumb move, but it's their choice).
I fully agree with the OP and carriers are very likely the issue. Negotiations would likely have been done already, in the US anyways its likely more about last minute bloatware and who has a "bigger" tower than anything else.
I blame Verizon, for everything lol.
Apple has more control over the carriers.
Apple has more control over the carriers and the supply chain, that is why their rollouts are quicker.
iPhone 6 on the 19th
I thought this thread would be exploding with comments about how Apple can do it in less than 2 weeks.
Anything over 30 days is crazy. The battery life on my Note 2 fading away, I've been eligible for an upgrade for months.
Now that I know the specifics of the Note 4 it has given my a chance to look at other phones S5, G3, M8 or wait for Nexus X.
The longer I wait the less likely that I'll make an 'impulse buy' I'm still excited about the Note 4 but I'm weighting the cost vs features.
What's up with the pre order pages on Samsung.com and Sprint.com? Did I actually pretty order or was it just an email notification? I didn't even receive an email confirmation.
I can't give out any details since I don't want to get anyone in trouble but basically I spoke with someone I know who is connected to Samsung and they game me some info, but it's pretty vague. They said that samsung experience shops will begin to put up new ads for the Note 4 during the last week of the month and that the shops will be getting floor models of the Note 4 during that time. The person also said that the release date will be in the first week of October, possibly October 3rd. I also heard another person say something about the Note 4 being release early, as In the last few days of September but that doesn't seem likely since Samsung themselves said October. I am assuming they got the release date confused with the day that they will be sending out floor models but who knows. (EDIT: just read this article on gottabemobile that references a September 26th early release, still skeptical they would release in September after saying October though. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/09/17/samsung-galaxy-note-4-release-date-could-be-close/) All 5 of the US Note 4 carrier variants have cleared through the FFC so it's coming, soon....ish. Take the above with the typical dose of salt.
Thanks for the info. Did your source happen to mention when the Galaxy Note Edge will release ?
I'll continue to take with spoon full of salt until something more concrete is released. Seen too many of these types of posts over the years on XDA.
I wonder if this would apply to Canadians as well? It looks like past Note's released at the same time in Canada and the USA if I read correctly. I can handle a little over two weeks until launch. I'll set myself up for that and if the info is wrong it shouldn't be much longer after that.
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Thanks for the info. Did your source happen to mention when the Galaxy Note Edge will release ?
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No specifics but my source implied it might not be available at launch according to what he has been told by Samsung.
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I'll continue to take with spoon full of salt until something more concrete is released. Seen too many of these types of posts over the years on XDA.
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Fair enough, I don't blame you. Most of the rumors about the Note 4 were dead wrong. Samsung is VERY good about keeping info secret.
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I wonder if this would apply to Canadians as well? It looks like past Note's released at the same time in Canada and the USA if I read correctly. I can handle a little over two weeks until launch. I'll set myself up for that and if the info is wrong it shouldn't be much longer after that.
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No idea, my source did not mention anything about Canada so I wont speculate. I am skeptical about the early release dates(Sept 26-28th) that are now being rumored but I sure hope Im wrong. I think Samsung might be finally realizing their mistake after seeing Apples success with the iPhone 6+ preorders.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/17/early-note-4-sales
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http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/17/early-note-4-sales
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Saw that a few hours ago, maybe my second source was not mistaken after all. If that's true I can't wait. Guess we will find out shortly.
Thanks 2ndammendment.
Any info on Developer Edition?
[Any chance your source has info on a Developer Edition Note 4 (Like the Developer Edition Note 3)? I missed the window on the Note 3 version and want an unlocked bootloader version for Verizon. Thanks.
I tweated Samsung india and they replied, it will be launched soon...but gave no date
Well. It seems everyone was wrong. Pre-orders tomorrow for the US and won't be available until October 17th. Whew..Talk about a botched up launch. At least we know officially tho..
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Well. It seems everyone was wrong. Pre-orders tomorrow for the US and won't be available until October 17th. Whew..Talk about a botched up launch. At least we know officially tho..
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Where did you get this information from?
apprentice said:
Where did you get this information from?
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It's everywhere now. Android central, Android authority, etc etc
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It's everywhere now. Android central, Android authority, etc etc
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Yup. 10/17. Samsung, it seems, has official confirmed.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/18/samsung-galaxy-note-4-october-17/
http://samsungmobileuspress.com/201...r-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4;-Available-October-17
Wow I wonder why the experience shops are getting ready with new ads and such at the end of the month if they aren't going to be releasing it until Oct 17th. My source was telling me about how the work schedules were being set for maximum coverage at the end of the month and very early October(I know he's not BSing me). Does not compute. Sorry guys, the info seemed legit enough to share.
Samsung seems to be surprising all of us, but in the worst possible way. What a terrible terrible launch. Releasing a product after 6 weeks from announcement is unacceptable. They got the Note 3 out even quicker than that and they didn't have the iPhone 6+ bearing down on them. Also, releasing a 32bit and 64bit version is so bizarre. Pick one and produce it like all the other manufactured do. Who ever comes up with this stuff needs to be fired pronto.
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Where did you get this information from?
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Its everywhere now since this morning. Go google it.
chong67 said:
Its everywhere now since this morning. Go google it.
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Thanks. But I read this post way before all the news suddenly broke about the release date!!!
Best of all we get it a week earlier in the UK!
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Well. It seems everyone was wrong. Pre-orders tomorrow for the US and won't be available until October 17th. Whew..Talk about a botched up launch. At least we know officially tho..
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Verizon is quoting a few days after that:
Order Date: 09/19/2014
Ship By: 10/23/2014
No news on the Edge and a launch 6 weeks after announcement. Apple announces and launches their phablet within 3 weeks of Note 4 announcement. Note 4 ads ,giving no date or reason to buy ,launch on TV.
This is why Samsung sales continously slip. They forget they got to this point by magnificent advertising and hammering iPhones and its fanboys. Now they're too busy patting themselves on the back and acting like everyone is willing to wait it our for their phone.
Its hard getting to the top, but it's harder to STAY there...
Two websites are reporting the launch date and availability have been moved up from Oct 17th the Sept 26th! I highly doubt I'll have ours in hand by this Friday, but a gut can dream, can't he?
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-release-accelerate-iphone-529198/
Has anyone seen an official announcement from Samsung about this new launch date?
That said for south korea
Reading comprehension
Fail
I've actually for three website reports of this now, two mentioning Korea, and one mentioning India, with no confirmation of an accelerated us date yet, however they are supposedly trying to contact Samsung for clarification.
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That said for south korea
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Yeah? I couldn't care if South Korea gets product today - doesn't help me in Canada. ?
Doesn't help me either, but my point of posting was to find out if everyone was getting a more recent launch date, and if anyone had gotten further information. If India is also being moved up, other countries could be moved up as well.
We are seeing a very low key launch here right now. We were actually the first people to preorder yesterday, even though they have been available for preorders since Friday. The only ads we've also seen are the snarky apple comparison ads, which don't really make Samsung look that great, IMHO.
Looks like Samsung have fail. Is this their first time?
This will be my first Samsung phone.
i wanna get mine early. come on samsung announce it for the us early!
Lol so I read the article on gsmarena... Says Samsung moved the launch date up because "The positive reaction from consumers to those two Apple devices prompted us to launch the Note 4 earlier than previously scheduled. Samsung will be aggressive in promoting the Note 4 as it's true that we are being challenged and pressured amid a difficult situation,"
Really Samsung? How could they be so blind? Apple is androids biggest competitor... So apple releases a phablet and Samsung thinks they are going to release the note 4 almost a month later and not lose market share?
With how little of an upgrade the note4 compared to the note3 I know a few that bought the 6+ to just test the waters. With such a small upgrade they should have had this out on launch day to get as many sales as possible.
I have given up thinking Samsung has a strategy and just realized they are not familiar with consumerism... Especially western consumerism. They need to quit making lame ads about Apple and start copying apples marketing strategies while producing top of the line phones.
ATT website states 10-17 .. i have already ordered .. pre-order for ATT was 19th sept.
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What I seriously don't get, is on one hand, they say preorders are sold out.. and then on the pther hand, they say they are moving up the launch date to sell more phones.
How do you sell more phones if you are sold out, and if you wanted to sell 15 million of them, why don't you have 15 million to sell?
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What I seriously don't get, is on one hand, they say preorders are sold out.. and then on the pther hand, they say they are moving up the launch date to sell more phones.
How do you sell more phones if you are sold out, and if you wanted to sell 15 million of them, why don't you have 15 million to sell?
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Marketing!
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Yeah? I couldn't care if South Korea gets product today - doesn't help me in Canada. ?
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Add a fellow Canadian I just want "a" release date. I'm banking on getting it the same time the U.S. does.
The articles clearly state that Samsung is focusing on markets where the iPhone has not released yet.
Another buzz killer is the already advertised pre-order rebate. Ends 10/16.
That does not mean western places other than the u.s will not have a slight chance
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The articles clearly state that Samsung is focusing on markets where the iPhone has not released yet.
Another buzz killer is the already advertised pre-order rebate. Ends 10/16.
That does not mean western places other than the u.s will not have a slight chance
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I would assume even just releasing it to markets the iPhone hasn't reached yet are fairly small. I doubt apple would target small markets over large. So I still stand with another poorly handled launch.
They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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South Korea - from 26 september (in showroom has already)
India - in first days october
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Add a fellow Canadian I just want "a" release date. I'm banking on getting it the same time the U.S. does.
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i know right?? we're always left out...i pre-ordered my note 4 like 5 days after it was announced on rogers, i'm #4 in line. I was expecting a release date but got squat. pretty much the entire world knows their release date, except us
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They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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When and where? Do you have a source?
I know preorders start on the 29th but does anyone know when the phone is set to release?
Alaris said:
I know preorders start on the 29th but does anyone know when the phone is set to release?
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IIRC it's the 12th.
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IIRC it's the 12th.
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What's IIRC?
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IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
Lol OK thanks for the info
ASAP! The sooner the better!
I think that's what'll end up hurting the most..... that long wait from the 29th to the 12th... that is IF they even actually start to ship out right away on the 12th, or if we'll have another debacle like the Nexus 5 launch, where it's like the ordering process was basically a pre-order and you still had to wait 2+ weeks to actually get the phone.
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I think that's what'll end up hurting the most..... that long wait from the 29th to the 12th... that is IF they even actually start to ship out right away on the 12th, or if we'll have another debacle like the Nexus 5 launch, where it's like the ordering process was basically a pre-order and you still had to wait 2+ weeks to actually get the phone.
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November 12th is the T-Mobile release of the device. That said the N6 could release on Google Play a little sooner than that. Its not hard to imagine really.
I feel bad more for people in other countries that might have to wait MUCH longer than us to get their hands on a N6.
Yeah I would imagine it releasing a couple of days sooner on google play. A lot of the cases for it on amazon have release dates towards the end of November so I wouldn't be surprised if it released around the 12th.
I hope it releases on AT&T the same day as google play