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So I need to unlock my One for a trip to Europe next month. I called Sprint, we started the process and they told me that the One is already unlocked and that only the iPhone is locked. Is this true? From what I have read this doesn't seem to be the case. I have a GiffGaf SIM I tried to put in my phone and it says SIMLock enabled and doesn't allow me to do anything with the SIM. Thank you.
EDIT: 8/2/13 Here is the step by step guide to disable SIMLock. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44143251#post44143251
Thanks guys!
Page 33 of the Get Started guide for the HTC One is what you are looking for.
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Page 33 of the Get Started guide for the HTC One is what you are looking for.
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That is the number I called and talked to a representative and then a supervisor.
SephirothWGP said:
So I need to unlock my One for a trip to Europe next month. I called Sprint, we started the process and they told me that the One is already unlocked and that only the iPhone is locked. Is this true? From what I have read this doesn't seem to be the case. I have a GiffGaf SIM I tried to put in my phone and it says SIMLock enabled and doesn't allow me to do anything with the SIM. Thank you.
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Don't bother trying the sim is unlocked but the phones work out of a frequency that none of the carriers will pick up. If you're so interested in having an unlocked phone why you even with Sprint?
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Because one vacation two week vacation isn't a valid reason to switch carriers. I have my old TP2, its not a big deal. I just figured it would be nice to use my new phone while on vacation... So you are saying the only frequency that the One supports is the frequency for LTE and not that of any GSM carriers?
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So I need to unlock my One for a trip to Europe next month. I called Sprint, we started the process and they told me that the One is already unlocked and that only the iPhone is locked. Is this true? From what I have read this doesn't seem to be the case. I have a GiffGaf SIM I tried to put in my phone and it says SIMLock enabled and doesn't allow me to do anything with the SIM. Thank you.
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I went through about 6 different reps before I got a supervisor who knows anything you have to talk to international tech and then then submit a claim for you which is then reviewed by another department who then contacts you with a yes or no. It will automatically be a no if your phone hasn't been active for 90 days. They gave me that BS even with me being a rep and getting my phone given to me by HTC free of cost. So its not like I paid a subsidized price or anything but yes long process
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adrianr514 said:
I went through about 6 different reps before I got a supervisor who knows anything you have to talk to international tech and then then submit a claim for you which is then reviewed by another department who then contacts you with a yes or no. It will automatically be a no if your phone hasn't been active for 90 days. They gave me that BS even with me being a rep and getting my phone given to me by HTC free of cost. So its not like I paid a subsidized price or anything but yes long process
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Thank you for your response. So did you ultimately get it approved, or am I wasting my time until it has been 90 days? Which by the way is the stupid rule I have ever heard. I have been a long time Sprint customer why should it matter how long I have owned my phone?
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Thank you for your response. So did you ultimately get it approved, or am I wasting my time until it has been 90 days? Which by the way is the stupid rule I have ever heard. I have been a long time Sprint customer why should it matter how long I have owned my phone?
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Haven't gotten a response
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Good luck to both of you on getting your CDMA radios to pick up anything internationally.
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Good luck to both of you on getting your CDMA radios to pick up anything internationally.
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It is a CDMA/GSM phone it will work internationally, that is not the issue. The question at hand is if the SIM can be unlocked so I can use another carrier and not pay Sprints outrageous international fees. Dual CDMA/GSM phones are nothing new. I have my old Touch Pro2 from years ago if this doesn't work, which is also a CDMA phone. Unless you have something helpful to add feel free to overlook my thread.
WTF? Is Sprint now locking all GSM phones? That policy used to apply only to iPhones. In the past, all other Sprint GSM-capable equipment was shipped unlocked.
I actually think it it would be reasonable for them to ship everything locked as long as they let established subscribers in good standing remove the lock upon request. Having to wait 90 days from the phone being activated does seem ridiculous. I don't see what they gain by doing this besides aggravating their customers.
In a semi related matter... Note that I believe the Sprint HTC One only supports one UMTS frequency (2100). That could be a problem in some countries as far as data service is concerned.
The 90 day rule is only for new customers, not a new phone. If you are a long time customer, it will be no problem. Just call the international department and they can take care of it.
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The 90 day rule is only for new customers, not a new phone. If you are a long time customer, it will be no problem. Just call the international department and they can take care of it.
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Thanks for the reply. I hope what you say is true. That would be a reasonable policy to follow.
Props as I already got mine unlocked with this info on day one. Sprint basically said they are not requiring an international roaming plan with this phone and that the 90 day thing for new people is to prevent them from buying their phones and selling for profit internationally.
Sprint is the only non carrier branded hardware version of the hardware available in the US as well.
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Don't bother trying the sim is unlocked but the phones work out of a frequency that none of the carriers will pick up. If you're so interested in having an unlocked phone why you even with Sprint?
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Because it should work in Europe. They he different frequency that the US.
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Props as I already got mine unlocked with this info on day one. Sprint basically said they are not requiring an international roaming plan with this phone and that the 90 day thing for new people is to prevent them from buying their phones and selling for profit internationally.
Sprint is the only non carrier branded hardware version of the hardware available in the US as well.
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Well, in that case, two thumbs up for Sprint for: quickly providing the unlock code :good: and for not branding the device :good:.
BTW, which department at Sprint gave you the unlock code?
I am on a sero plan, so my concierge. I am sure just about any other knowledgable rep can do this. So there's the rub...find that person. Lol.
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Sign into your sprint account online,mime it's showing my pin and punk unlock code. Don't know if that will be enough but maybe
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I finally got through the process enough that I am now pending approval since my device isn't 90 days old. Non of the reps I talked to knew anything, they said the iPhone was the only phone that needed to be unlocked, that my phone was already unlocked, that it wasn't possible to use an international SIM. Be persistent insist that you are correct and that your phone does indeed require an unlock. Now hopefully it comes back with no problems from the approval process, I will be raising hell if they deny my device since it is new. That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard in my life. Good luck!
HTC ONE is a World Phone
the HTC ONE supports all GSM frequencies making it a world phone capable of using local SIM in other countries. Thanks.
I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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i literally just got back from the ATT store, they wouldn't sell it to me without an ATT account
The regular price is showing $579.99 on AT&T's web site. That is way too much for the phone considering the Nexus 4 is $350 and can be used on T-mobile without any contracts. If you really want this phone then I would say walk into a AT&T store and see what they can do. Even though you don't have a SSN there may be special exemptions for students.
That's really hard to consider Moto X over SGS4 Google Play edition considering the same price, and people say the camera is really bad
Will have to take a look at Moto X in store today
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and people say the camera is really bad
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"people" say a lot.
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"people" say a lot.
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Look at the review samples or even the "photos" thread here in the X general forum.
You can sign the contracts without SSN, all you need to do is pay a $500 security deposit, they will return it to you within a year if you pay your monthly fee on time.
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I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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I went into my local AT&T this morning trying to buy one off contract. They couldn't get the transaction to process though so the manager called support and was told that Motorola/Google are not allowing the Moto X to be sold off contract at launch.
Yeah, they told me that they won't sell it off contract for the first month
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i bought mine sort of off-contract. but, instead a month-to-month "contract". pretty sure it would be pointless to buy this phone outright from AT&T. it's entirely locked down to AT&T. until someone proves otherwise, i'm unsure this "GSM" phone will work off their network.
i could be way off...
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i bought mine sort of off-contract. but, instead a month-to-month "contract". pretty sure it would be pointless to buy this phone outright from AT&T. it's entirely locked down to AT&T. until someone proves otherwise, i'm unsure this "GSM" phone will work off their network.
i could be way off...
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so how do I get them to do this? just say I want to use this month to month can I please buy this phone?
I'm on the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan. I was able to walk in buy one no commitment with no questions asked.
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I'm on the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan. I was able to walk in buy one no commitment with no questions asked.
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did you pay full $579 retail?
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did you pay full $579 retail?
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Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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awesome. thanks for the info!
unbelieveably it is vailable in Future shop, Canad off the contract. I got mine on the release day. Even the future shop sales rep was shocked that usually system would not allow him to sell outright at least for a month...
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The regular price is showing $579.99 on AT&T's web site. That is way too much for the phone considering the Nexus 4 is $350 and can be used on T-mobile without any contracts. If you really want this phone then I would say walk into a AT&T store and see what they can do. Even though you don't have a SSN there may be special exemptions for students.
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Not sure if you can get it without a contract, but I paid full price (I and under contract for another year and not yet eligible for an upgrade). I paid full retail, which in the store rang up as $540. Not sure why, since the web site shows $579.00, but I won't complain about saving $40.
BTW - the store I went to said they wont stock 32GB versions in store, they will need to be ordered online. I bought a black 16GB Moto X.
So if I walked into an AT&T store and buy their Moto X full price, will they let me unlock it to use it on T Mobile?
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Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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That's cuz yous a bawlin' G.
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So if I walked into an AT&T store and buy their Moto X full price, will they let me unlock it to use it on T Mobile?
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I called GoPhone customer service and they gave me the unlock code.
Having been an AT&T customer for over 10 years now, I wanted to take my recently purchased Galaxy Note 3 on a trip to Europe, therefore, I wanted to unlock it. I called AT&T and was told (basically) that my phone can't be unlocked except after the 2 year contract period expires. Oh yeah! Forget AT&T...I'm on my own. Anyone have ideas on how to do an unlock on an AT&T Note 3 reliably?
You can try region lock away by chainfire. You have to be rooted for it to work. Good luck.
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I agree with the OP. I do not believe that carriers should have any influence or say so when it comes to phones. Why do they need to control them? Like with updates for example. What a nightmare. Why does phone phone have to be locked to them. I'm paying them for service only. UGH.
Chainfire's unlock works on M19 build and baseband. If you are on MJ5, you need to restore with a M19 build / MJ5 baseband and then root, then apply the unlock.
If you don't want to root, the only option is to purchase unlock code.
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I agree with the OP. I do not believe that carriers should have any influence or say so when it comes to phones. Why do they need to control them? Like with updates for example. What a nightmare. Why does phone phone have to be locked to them. I'm paying them for service only. UGH.
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Your not paying just for just service. When you get the phone on 2 year plan every month you paying a payment on that phone every month. That's why your bill so high. People don't realize it.
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If you don't want to have to worry about any of that then buy the phone out right and don't do a 2 year contract it like buy a car on credit you don't fully own it till you pay it off. On top of that if you don't like waiting for updates and stuff buy an unlocked Un carrier branded phone and get the update when they come out.
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Maybe try this path?
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/?
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I unlocked mine via a website. Cost me $30 but worked just fine. I am in the UK right now and using my note 3 with a pay as you go sim. I tried the region lock away here on xda but the sim was still locked.
Like you I was so mad when AT&T told me they no longer provide unlock codes. Once my contract expires I am done with them.
Hope this helps. Cheers.
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Just pay one of the many websites out there $30ish to get an unlock code based on the IMEI number. I did it with my AT&T N3 within a week of buying it and it works great Internationally.
I understand it costs money and people assume it should be free but it's a minimal amount of money not to have to deal with AT&T's bone head customer service.
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All carriers are like this from my experience. Keeping the phone locked is the only form of inconvenience they can put on people who do not want to honor their contracts and steal the phone. I called AT&T 2 months after I got my Note 3 on contract to unlock and they told me the buy-out price was 198.00.
I have a Nexus 6 on T-Mobile, and recently, due to financial issues, I won't be able to continue paying a very large bill I have with them. One reason is because I billed my Nexus 6 to my account and cannot return it. So, I am in a pickle. Does anyone know, since this device comes unlocked from Motorola, will they block the IMEI number, and if so, would I still be able to use it on a CDMA carrier like Sprint if it has been activated before the IMEI number was blocked ? I would assume any GSM carrier is out of the question, but Sprint handles their activations differently than T-Mobiles. Can anyone tell me what could happen ?
Edit 1: I have already tried to work out a payment deal with T-Mobile.....because I don't get paid until the 23rd, I won't be able to work out an extended payment schedule with them.
If you don't pay the rest of your EIP then yes they will blacklist the device. It doesn't matter if you use it on any of the other carriers. The phone will be rendered useless when it comes to cellular data.
Not to mention, you failing to pay your payments will significantly damage your credit score.
The device was not on a EIP. My credit history has been shot for awhile. They billed the entire amount of the phone to the main account balance.
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If you don't pay the rest of your EIP then yes they will blacklist the device. It doesn't matter if you use it on any of the other carriers. The phone will be rendered useless when it comes to cellular data. Not to mention, you failing to pay your payments will significantly damage your credit history.
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The device was not on a EIP. My credit history has been shot for awhile. They billed the entire amount of the phone to the main account balance.
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So have you paid off the Nexus 6 in full amount? If it wasn't paid for in full then it will be blacklisted and the phone will be useless for cell service.
If you can't pay your month-to-month bill when it comes to the Simple Choice plan then yes you can use the device with other carriers but you'll lose your T-Mobile plan (obviously).
No, I didn't pay off the full amount. They billed the full amount to the account instead of doing a EIP and they told me that they would work out a extended payment schedule of about 9 months to cover the total cost of the device. So yes it was the full amount, but the full amount hasn't been actually paid yet.
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So have you paid off the Nexus 6 in full amount? If it wasn't paid for in full then it will be blacklisted and the phone will be useless for cell service.
If you can't pay your month-to-month bill when it comes to the Simple Choice plan then yes you can use the device with other carriers but you'll lose your T-Mobile plan (obviously).
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No, I didn't pay off the full amount. They billed the full amount to the account instead of doing a EIP and they told me that they would work out a extended payment schedule of about 9 months to cover the total cost of the device. So yes it was the full amount, but the full amount hasn't been actually paid yet.
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Then the device would be blacklisted on all carriers unless you can call them and have them change it to a EIP from a full balance.
I can't because of my credit score.
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Then the device would be blacklisted on all carriers unless you can call them and have them change it to a EIP from a full balance.
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I can't because of my credit score.
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Then your phone is blacklisted because you are unable to pay for it. I'm sorry but you shouldn't have purchased the phone outright if you were unable to pay for it.
The only other options would be to talk to a family member or someone who trust you would be willing to pay for you until you can pay them back.
Just a bit of info for all of you out there saying if he doesn't pay his T-mobile bill the phone will be black listed, let me just 1st say False! Other carriers give no ****s if he pays T-mobile. 2nd what makes you guys think T-mobile have the power to call up AT&T, Verizon, US Cellular, Sprint Etc.... And demand them to block this one Esn? Please speak only on what you know and stop giving out bad info.
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Trevaryn said:
Just a bit of info for all of you out there saying if he doesn't pay his T-mobile bill the phone will be black listed, let me just 1st say False! Other carriers give no ****s if he pays T-mobile. 2nd what makes you guys think T-mobile have the power to call up AT&T, Verizon, US Cellular, Sprint Etc.... And demand them to block this one Esn? Please speak only on what you know and stop giving out bad info.
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The OP has a bill for his Nexus 6 that is unpaid for. Its the same thing that happens when someone is selling a financed phone that is not paid in full and has a balance. The phone becomes blacklisted and will not work on other carriers.
So unless the OP paid for the Nexus 6 in its full amount, it will be blacklisted. The whole IMEI blocking is organized with all carriers as well as international, so yes they do care.
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You ordered the phone and didn't pay the $649/$699 + taxes then your phone will be blacklisted.
If you paid for the phone in full $649/$699 but no longer want the T-Mobile Simple Choice plan, your phone is completely fine and you can use it on other carriers. You will just lose your Simple choice plan but if that was the case, its better to pay off the cycle and then cancel your service instead of just not paying the monthly plan for Simple choice (note if you have EIP and you cancel your Simple Choice plan, your EIP balance must be paid in full)
No, I didn't pay off the full amount. They billed the full amount to the account instead of doing a EIP and they told me that they would work out a extended payment schedule of about 9 months to cover the total cost of the device. So yes it was the full amount, but the full amount hasn't been actually paid yet.
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OP has not paid for it, if he does not pay the balance it will be blacklisted on all carriers. T Mobile doesn't need to tell any other carriers anything, they share a similar database. That is why if you report your phone stolen, that phone cannot be used on AT&T/Verizon/US Cellular/Sprint/etc. T Mobile is not going to call up AT&T, Verizon, US Cellular, Sprint, etc to blacklist this phone because it was reported as stolen on T-Mobile. They just have to add it into the database and it'll be blacklisted on all carriers. Its as simple as that.
So until the OP has paid the phone in FULL AMOUNT the phone is not his because its still not paid off.
I'm not giving false information, I'm a RC for a reason.
Here's a link to back it up,
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/64870?start=0&tstart=0 (it says EIP but same would be said about full balance not being paid for)
http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/2fv5d8/selling_a_phone_while_still_on_eip/
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/06/upgr...-t-mobile-phones-due-to-network-blacklisting/
I shouldn't have to go out of my way to provide links when I've already reiterated myself multiple times in this thread.
Edit: To your logic, Verizon/AT&T/Sprint has similar financing programs for their phones. The same can be said with Verizon/AT&T/Sprint, using a phone that is still financed under another carrier and then trying the device on T-Mobile won't work. Its a win-win for the carriers assuming the device is not carrier locked but regardless it will be blacklisted if a phone is still financed on AT&T/Sprint/VZW and attempted to be used on T-Mobile network.
I'm not going to argue with you about this I have worked for all of them and they do NOT share a data base. A prime example of that was when the Nexus 6 first came out people having issues activating it on other carriers than the ones they receive them from because Verizon does not share a data base with Sprint people are having those issues inactivating their Sprint Nexus 6 on Verizon even though they come factory unlocked, now they had shared the same database there would have been no issues with people transferring over there phones from carrier to carrier. I can tell you for a fact that I have taken the Verizon blacklisted droid ultra and activated on both t-mobile and AT&T , mind you that is just one example.
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Also in regards to that post for the TemoNews what they are referring to is people selling t mobile phones to other people who plan on using them on t-mobile aka locked phones if you would have sell or use a unlocked tmobile phone on a different carrier it would work whether you've paid the bill with tmobile or not.
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I'm not going to argue with you about this I have worked for all of them and they do NOT share a data base. A prime example of that was when the Nexus 6 first came out people having issues activating it on other carriers than the ones they receive them from because Verizon does not share a data base with Sprint people are having those issues inactivating their Sprint Nexus 6 on Verizon even though they come factory unlocked, now they had shared the same database there would have been no issues with people transferring over there phones from carrier to carrier. I can tell you for a fact that I have taken the Verizon blacklisted droid ultra and activated on both t-mobile and AT&T , mind you that is just one example.
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We're not talking about buying a N6 from a certain place (T-Mo, AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular, Motorola, Google Play) and then activating it with another carrier. That isn't a problem with the Nexus 6.
We're talking about when ANY phone but in this case we're talking about the Nexus 6, what would happen if OP did not pay out the balance of his phone? Meaning he purchased it off-contract and is unable to pay for the full $649/699 + taxes for the device. The device will be blacklisted on other carriers because the phone was not paid for. The OP has a poor credit score and is unable to go on a installation of monthly payment plans so he had to pay for the phone upright and is unable to pay for the phone in full price and wants to use the unpaid phone on another cellular service, it will not work because it will be blacklisted.
I'm pretty sure me and you are talking about different topics. OP is talking about not paying his bills and wondering if the phone can be used with another carrier if he didn't pay his bill for the device.
Ok so let say I go to tmobile and buy a N6 on contract and pay the 26.75 a month for a few months, then let's say the months after that I cannot pay anymore and my account goes to collections and they blacklist the phone. Because it's is a Google phone it comes unlocked. So I take that unlocked blacklisted phone to let's say att, all I have to do is get a simple from them and pop it in the phone and then all I have to do is setup the phone on my account and bam workingpbone
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Ok so let say I go to tmobile and buy a N6 on contract and pay the 26.75 a month for a few months, then let's say the months after that I cannot pay anymore and my account goes to collections and they blacklist the phone. Because it's is a Google phone it comes unlocked. So I take that unlocked blacklisted phone to let's say att, all I have to do is get a simple from them and pop it in the phone and then all I have to do is setup the phone on my account and bam workingpbone
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It doesn't work that way because each device has its own unique IMEI number. The IMEI number is blacklisted, it's the same thing on how stolen phones are reported.
If my phone was stolen and I called up T-Mobile and report that it was stolen, that phone would be rendered useless when it comes to connecting to a cellular network because the device is blacklisted. Your phone being carrier unlocked has nothing to do with evading a phone from being blacklisted.
You can read more about it,
As devices have become more sophisticated and more expensive, they are also more attractive to thieves. Recent years have seen an increased need for the IMEI DB to be used as a tool to combat handset theft by ensuring the identities of stolen devices can be shared across networks around the world. The IMEI DB also supports what is known as a “black list”. The black list is a list of IMEIs that are associated with mobile devices that should be denied service on mobile networks because they have been reported as lost, stolen, faulty or otherwise unsuitable for use. This list is stored in the Central Equipment Identity Register (CEIR) which acts as a central system for network operators to share their individual black lists so that devices denied service (blacklisted) by one network will not work on other networks. The engagement of governments and law enforcement agencies with the network operator community continues in a number of markets where handset theft is perceived to be a problem and the GSMA strongly encourages use of the IMEI DB as a platform to exchange stolen handset data. All GSMA operator members are welcome to connect to the system free of charge. To learn more about the IMEI database, please click here.
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Trevaryn said:
Ok so let say I go to tmobile and buy a N6 on contract and pay the 26.75 a month for a few months, then let's say the months after that I cannot pay anymore and my account goes to collections and they blacklist the phone. Because it's is a Google phone it comes unlocked. So I take that unlocked blacklisted phone to let's say att, all I have to do is get a simple from them and pop it in the phone and then all I have to do is setup the phone on my account and bam workingpbone
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So ignorant.......
An unlocked phone means your phone itself can be used on any carrier without needing an unlock code. But when your phone is network blocked, this database is shared amongst other networks in your region, so all carriers in your region will block your device from grabbing any signal as your IMEI is sent to the network. If it goes through the security check and doesn't have any IMEI blocks in place, then you're fine, but if it's blocked, your phone will not get signal.
Your phone can still register on other networks in other countries, but as for your T-mo plan, you're in a region where your IMEI is blocked. So your phone is essentially blocked from being used unless you sell it to another person in another country.
Yes you are right but your phone will only be blacklisted on tmobile! Dude I've ****ing done this before. I used to make a living flashing blacklisted phone to other carriers. I would take bad esn phone from whatever carrier and put them on a different one. Done it hundreds of times.
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Trevaryn said:
Yes you are right but your phone will only be blacklisted on tmobile! Dude I've (MOD EDIT) done this before. I used to make a living flashing blacklisted phone to other carriers. I would take bad esn phone from whatever carrier and put them on a different one. Done it hundreds of times.
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No your phone will be blocked on other carriers too, read my post underlined and bolded. That talk of evading the IMEI blacklisted talk is not prohibited on XDA and is generally illegal.
Not paying a phone for $649/$699 + taxes and then trying to evade IMEI blacklist is a huge no. So stop please.
MOD EDIT: Please don't swear.
Like I said I have DONE this. OP can believe whoever he wants it makes no difference to me. BTW the phone I had b4 this N6 I got from CL and it was blacklisted on Verizon but I had it activated on both t-mobile and AT&T at different times.
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Trevaryn said:
Like I said I have DONE this. OP can believe whoever he wants it makes no difference to me. BTW the phone I had b4 this N6 I got from CL and it was blacklisted on Verizon but I had it activated on both t-mobile and AT&T at different times.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591672
One day your luck will run out. The phone goes on the stolen blacklist because the phone, in essence, is stolen. The OP agreed to purchase the phone, had it billed 100% to his next billing statement, and kept the phone without paying for it.
I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
Limeybastard said:
I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
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I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
No real cons for grabbing the unlocked version other than native video calling will not work on the unlocked version. Promptness of updates from T-Mobile vs Samsung direct is also something to consider. I'm speaking from the point of view of a stock T-Mobile N8 vs an unlocked N8.
ggrant3876 said:
I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
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I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
pros are the discount but you can also buy the tmo variant from Samsung as well. I almost bought an unlocked one from Samsung but I found out if you buy the carrier variant from Samsung, Tmobile can unlock from the day you receive it even if its financed through Samsung. Now I am betting it will be like s7 and s8 to where you can odin/adb the unlocked firmware onto the tmo device to get rid of the carrier bloat.
now the unlocked normally doesn't mean that much to me because I plan on staying with TMO anyway but I really want a Deep sea blue when it becomes available so I need to resell the one o have. I would wait until the blue is released but I cant pass up the note 7 discount. since I can unlock the TMO device on day 1, it will be easier to sell when it comes to that point. I believe all the snap dragon phones are built the same just have different software per carrier. so If my TMO device is sim unlocked, I can flash the stock Verizon firmware and will look/work just like a stock Verizon device(lte bands, apps etc).
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I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
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If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
harveydent said:
If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
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I was just reading that thread on slickdeals, damn got a head ache reading that . I was considering getting an iphone for trade in or a GS5, but aint worth the hassles or risks for me.:silly:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
Amd4life said:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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The US (SIM) Unlocked version, is Qualcomm Snapdragon powered.
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Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
DMK1111 said:
Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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My wife got her note 8 two days ago. I like it but I have a Pixel XL and have all my custom stuff on it. We were both victims of the Note 7 fiasco! She went iPhone 7 I went Pixel. She hates her iPhone so jumped on the note 8... Bouncing all over the house all happy again. They offered us $400.00 off if we turn in a phone like I have a Galaxy 5 I can still keep my pixel and get the note 8 so I might just do it.