S6 Ram Management Discussion(Partial Fix) - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S6

Since we've been talking about this pretty extensively in a different thread I figured I would make a new thread for discussing, troubleshooting and attempting to improve the ram management issue on the S6.
Hopefully some good will come of this
So far this Is what we've got:
Should work on all variants including the edge and possible on other Samsung devices.
Thanks to @mikeyinid for finding these and @s.rapp for answering questions, and making the instructions easier to understand
And anyone else who I may have missed who helped contribute.
Prerequisites:
-A rooted device
-A root file explorer/manager app
-A backup of your original build.prop to be safe
Explanation: (From @mikeyinid )
Here is a quick rundown on how this came about, and what we actually know.
Since I purchased the S6 on release day, I've been messing with certain things, as you can see from the ROM I posted, Looper(shameless plug). Debloating Samsung apps really helped with battery life and I was pretty happy with the results. But like so many other people, I didn't understand why my S6 killed apps so aggressively. Initially I thought it might be the memory leak we all know so much about in 5.0. So, I did a little research and found the patch for that. While it did help keep the device stable over time, apps were still being killed with no prejudice. All this time I noticed really useless services running in the background, often stuff I'd never even opened. I studied LMK and started messing with those settings. After a month of trying everything I could find documented, I was ready to give up. Yesterday I was looking through the services.jar smali for the 37,875th time and realized the DHA referenced in there has to have something to do with memory management. I kept overlooking it because I hadn't seen mention of it anywhere else. I am no smali guru, as some of you know. But it was pretty obvious DHA was influencing memory management to some extent. Samsung, although leaving us in the dark on this, was kind enough to give us props to set the values for DHA. I pulled a few that seemed relevant, added them to my build.prop, and what do you know. For the first time in almost two months of tinkering, I saw an improvement in the way my device was managing memory.
The thing everyone needs to understand; I have no clue what DHA is. It overrides every aspect of Googles LMK and seems to do so in a way that makes more sense. I'm sure someone with more knowledge than myself will be able to tune this to the point the S6 will be the multi-tasking champ. There are several other props in the smali that are probably useful. I will try to get them all with their default values posted today. This has been pretty exciting for me, I spent way to much time trying to figure out the issue to not make some sort of progress. I hope you guys enjoy the tweaks, and I hope it helps sway those of you on the fence about keeping this device to stay. It's only gonna get better
Instructions:
First find your build.prop. This is located in /system. to get to /system you need to go to the root directory using a file explorer and then go to the system folder. The build.prop will be in there. You can also use and app such as build.prop tweaker but its a bit harder (imo)
In your build.prop scroll to the very bottom and paste this in:
Code:
# MultiTasking Tweaks
ro.config.dha_cached_max=15
ro.config.dha_cached_min=4
ro.config.dha_empty_max=36
ro.config.dha_empty_min=9
ro.config.dha_empty_init=36
ro.config.dha_lmk_scale=0.545
ro.config.dha_update_max_count=5
ro.config.dha_step=2
ro.config.dha_th_rate=1.4
ro.config.dha_defend_th_level=0
ro.config.64bit_lmk_enable=true
ro.config.sdha_apps_bg_max=70
ro.config.sdha_apps_bg_min=8
ro.config.dha_ils_enable=true
ro.config.dha_ils_dyna_lmk=true
ro.config.dha_ils_rate=1.5
Now you need to find and remove any duplicate build.prop lines which may cause an issue. So look through the build.prop and remove any lines that look like these(Not the ones you just added at the bottom!):
ro.config.dha_cached_max=
ro.config.dha_empty_max=
ro.config.dha_th_rate=
ro.config.dha_lmk_scale=
Finally reboot your device and report back here!
Video Tutorial (courtesy of @Thin_Bezel )
https://youtu.be/d-vaLXF0OxY
A note from @mrapp :
"The major addendum here seems to be that when using this build.prop apps like Chrome and and those calling webpages via Webview (Tinfoil for Facebook) still suck. The kernels being tested at the moment don't appear to have this issue, so if you're capable of flashing kernels I personally recommend checking out the Vindicator thread if you're on T-Mobile/W8 or UniKernel (universal) if you're on any other device. UniKernel tests may or may not be edge friendly, so always make a backup. Lots of people have gotten in to trouble today. Don't be one of them!"
Please note we are constantly experimenting with different values so these are subject to be updated rather frequently

As I was saying before, Maybe someone can try compare Zenfone 2 services.jar with the one in samsung galaxy s6.
The Asus Zenfone 2 is knowed to had a great multitasking experience, it can keep a loot of apps even in his 2GB version, and remember that Zenfone is in Android 5.0 and don't have any problem with multitasking.
I already downloaded the firmware for Zenfone and decompiled his services.jar if someone like to try something, here is attached:

iFlasher said:
As I was saying before, Maybe someone can try compare Zenfone 2 services.jar with the one in samsung galaxy s6.
The Asus Zenfone 2 is knowed to had a great multitasking experience, it can keep a loot of apps even in his 2GB version, and remember that Zenfone is in Android 5.0 and don't have any problem with multitasking.
I already downloaded the firmware for Zenfone and decompiled his services.jar if someone like to try something, here is attached:
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I'll take a look at it, but I've already gone through several different services.jar trying to find anything that might make a difference. Everything appears to be exactly how Google intended it to be.

mikeyinid said:
I'll take a look at it, but I've already gone through several different services.jar trying to find anything that might make a difference. Everything appears to be exactly how Google intended it to be.
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I also noticed that Samsung uses the ramdisk to set VM memory settings and lmk settings rather than actually modifying the source for some reason. I tried removing all of these and letting the settings be stock google but that also made no difference
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Xileforce said:
I also noticed that Samsung uses the ramdisk to set VM memory settings and lmk settings rather than actually modifying the source for some reason. I tried removing all of these and letting the settings be stock google but that also made no difference
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Right, all of that can be controlled with init.d scripts. i set the values ridiculously high and can see that that scripts actually work. Then going the other way no matter how low I set them or even disable them, there is no difference. Still can't have more than 5 or so apps open.

mikeyinid said:
Right, all of that can be controlled with init.d scripts. i set the values ridiculously high and can see that that scripts actually work. Then going the other way no matter how low I set them or even disable them, there is no difference. Still can't have more than 5 or so apps open.
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What's a good test to see if memory management is improved? I've done some mods to lmk in my latest kernel and want to see if it helps any.
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Xileforce said:
What's a good test to see if memory management is improved? I've done some mods to lmk in my latest kernel and want to see if it helps any.
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just open apps, never hit the back button, then switch between them using recents.

mikeyinid said:
just open apps, never hit the back button, then switch between them using recents.
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Hmmm...idk still seems pretty mediocre :/ not sure if better or worse.
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Xileforce said:
Hmmm...idk still seems pretty mediocre :/ not sure if better or worse.
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Tried it on your latest kernel and it seems to be the same.

NJGSII said:
Tried it on your latest kernel and it seems to be the same.
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Yea figured...the issue apparently isn't the lmk then...
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Xileforce said:
Yea figured...the issue apparently isn't the lmk then...
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I don't know a whole about kernel stuff. Does there happen to be any oom_adj stuff in there?
I'm losing hope that this will be fixed with any update. I think moving to arm64 may have shot Samsung in the foot. What is the other arm64 lollipop device samsung has released? Note 4?.
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Xileforce said:
Yea figured...the issue apparently isn't the lmk then...
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It's not. It has nothing to do with lmk. I've messed with every possible scenario, pulled in stuff from cm and see no difference. Even changing oom_adj values in services.jar makes zero difference.

mikeyinid said:
I don't know a whole about kernel stuff. Does there happen to be any oom_adj stuff in there?
I'm losing hope that this will be fixed with any update. I think moving to arm64 may have shot Samsung in the foot. What is the other arm64 lollipop device samsung has released? Note 4?.
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It's not. It has nothing to do with lmk. I've messed with every possible scenario, pulled in stuff from cm and see no difference. Even changing oom_adj values in services.jar makes zero difference.
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I meant I thought it may help with killing recents so soon. It had some tweaks to preserve favorites among other things
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Xileforce said:
I meant I thought it may help with killing recents so soon. It had some tweaks to preserve favorites among other things
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I was agreeing with you lol.

mikeyinid said:
I don't know a whole about kernel stuff. Does there happen to be any oom_adj stuff in there?
I'm losing hope that this will be fixed with any update. I think moving to arm64 may have shot Samsung in the foot. What is the other arm64 lollipop device samsung has released? Note 4?.
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It's not. It has nothing to do with lmk. I've messed with every possible scenario, pulled in stuff from cm and see no difference. Even changing oom_adj values in services.jar makes zero difference.
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I have note 4 too and it has same problem with latest lollipop update, i switched to cm12.1 and now all the problem are gone, switching between apps it's really fast and apps stay in ram flawlessly.

CQ7 said:
I have note 4 too and it has same problem with latest lollipop update, i switched to cm12.1 and now all the problem are gone, switching between apps it's really fast and apps stay in ram flawlessly.
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Interesting. This gives me hope! Ty for sharing. Im pretty sure its an issue on the ROM side rather than kernel.
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Xileforce said:
Interesting. This gives me hope! Ty for sharing. Im pretty sure its an issue on the ROM side rather than kernel.
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Right, but what on the ROM side could be causing this kind of behavior? I see myself as quite tech savvy, but I'm woefully uninitiated in the inner workings of Android you guys are unraveling here.
Even after removing just about all of Samsungs proprietary stuff, just leaving the bare basics, we're still seeing app genocide as soon as we're multitasking.
It'd sure be awesome of the community fixes this before Samsung does...

Has Samsung acknowledge this issue and said they will fix it with the 5.1.1 update? Honestly, I feel like for the premium you pay for this phone, this is very ridiculous. Things like these can really make or break a purchase. I myself have not got the S6 solely for this reason, I cannot justify spending 600+ on a device which cannot even keep up with my 3 year old Nexus 4.
I hope they do fix it this month though. What are the chances they will though, the S6 is selling well so Samsung probably does not care about these things.

oxxshadow said:
Has Samsung acknowledge this issue and said they will fix it with the 5.1.1 update? Honestly, I feel like for the premium you pay for this phone, this is very ridiculous. Things like these can really make or break a purchase. I myself have not got the S6 solely for this reason, I cannot justify spending 600+ on a device which cannot even keep up with my 3 year old Nexus 4.
I hope they do fix it this month though. What are the chances they will though, the S6 is selling well so Samsung probably does not care about these things.
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The S6 isn't selling as well as Samsung had hoped. And the memory issue is probably a large part of it. I have a S4 also, and it doesn't have any issues multi tasking on lollipop. It's shameful that a 3 year old device can managed to run just about everything I throw at it with no problem.

oxxshadow said:
Has Samsung acknowledge this issue and said they will fix it with the 5.1.1 update? Honestly, I feel like for the premium you pay for this phone, this is very ridiculous. Things like these can really make or break a purchase. I myself have not got the S6 solely for this reason, I cannot justify spending 600+ on a device which cannot even keep up with my 3 year old Nexus 4.
I hope they do fix it this month though. What are the chances they will though, the S6 is selling well so Samsung probably does not care about these things.
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Samsung has acknowledged the ram issue and said they will fix it in an update. That's about as specific as they got. My guess would be 5.1.1 update though.
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Xileforce said:
Samsung has acknowledged the ram issue and said they will fix it in an update. That's about as specific as they got. My guess would be 5.1.1 update though.
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Sadly, Samsung has neither acknowledged the specific issue nor promised any updates. All the articles in the blogosphere regarding this (including the one from Forbes) cite a Facebook comment from a random Samsung employee giving an incredibly vague and generic response about future updates when asked a direct question about the memory issue by xda member johanbiff.
I'm baffled by the low level of journalism here.
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[Q] Can I root my Note 3 AT&T?

The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
IcyRhythms said:
That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
IcyRhythms said:
It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
jerrycoffman45 said:
turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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Thanks again
The Kingo Root seems very simple. Think I'll do that and then maybe look into some roms.
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Unhived__Mind said:
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
IcyRhythms said:
You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
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thats it auto correct got me
IcyRhythms said:
Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
Solarenemy68 said:
You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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Any word on if/when that will be a possibility?
Also, meant to ask earlier(it's also a little too late since I've already done it)does using Kingo Root disable Samsung/AT&T updates like KitKat?(still blows me away that KitKat has yet to release for this phone on AT&T)
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The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps.
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Nothing to do with RAM. RAM is where apps run. When you install an app it gets installed to storage (think of storage like the hard drive on a desktop computer).
When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
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In Windows, the more free RAM you have, the better. In Android, any unused RAM is wasted RAM. As soon as you free up some RAM, Android's memory manager is going to load something in the newly freed space. RAM cleaning programs are a waste of battery, a waste of time (both yours and the computer's) and a waste of storage (the space they're stored in). Android has a great memory manager - let it do its thing.
How much RAM will I free up by rooting
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None. You'll be using storage to store su, busybox and SuperSU. Rooting has nothing to do with RAM.
installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel?
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Install Nova Launcher. It's an app, not a ROM, so there's no warranty issue, no bricking issue and it's a welcome change from the monkey-designed TouchWiz. (The old joke that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, eventually they'd have written all of Shakespeare's works? They'd also have written TouchWiz.)
Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM
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The amount of RAM an app uses is determined by the app, not by the ROM or the launcher (which is the "look" of the phone when you turn it on).
and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
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The stock ROM works, doesn't use that much storage (I collect apps like junkyard dogs collect fleas, and I have just a hair under 29GB of free internal storage - and a lot of junk apps I have to uninstall, because I just downloaded to help people. And as far as bugs go ... I haven't seen any in general (I had to return 2 Note 3s and one of the ones I have now, which is a refurb, may also have to go back - but that's all hardware issues). If you want looks you change launchers and lock screens. (And there's a lot you can do with the settings to make things look different.)
There's really only one reason to root - because you need (or really want) to run an app that needs root permissions.
There's really only one reason to run a different ROM - because it has features that you want that the stock ROM doesn't.
All the rest is experimentation, fun and watching geniuses (and there are a lot of them on xda) at work. But remember, rooting alone voids the warranty. ROMming not only voids the warranty, it can mess up your phone. Is it $700 worth of fun? That's for you to decide. Rooting (as long as you don't use root status to mess anything up) is safe. ROMming, not so much. Still fixable - in most cases - but the first time you're stuck in a boot loop, you'll panic longer than it takes to reflash the phone.
some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM
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If you run Kit Kat you'll free up some RAM, but the official update will be out soon anyway
and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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Turn them off.
People are taking molehills and making Olympus Mons out of them. There are so many much simpler solutions to so many of the "problems" people want to "solve" by rooting or changing ROMs.
Oh, I forgot one other very important reason to root, and as a child of the 60s it should have been the first one to occur to me - sticking it to the man.
Thanks for all the help to those that responded. The last reply in particular would have been very helpful had a I not jumped the gun yesterday. I rooted my phone yesterday. DIDN'T try anything else like new themes/roms. Just rooted the phone. After about an hour the phone having issues. Freezing. Apps not opening. Then, I unrooted. Haven't had a freeze since, but the phone is still doing odd things it wasn't doing before. Apps appear to be taking longer open etc...I went to send a text message about an hour ago and when I clicked on the text to begin typing the big envelope icon covered the entire screen looking very pixelated. ugh....

Improved performance with "Performance Booster"

I have LG Optimus 4X HD since 2012. It was good until I upgraded to JB 4.1.2 (official). Severe battery drain, game lags, heating etc forced me to install custom ROMs. First tried CM, better than stock but not as good as I wanted; then tried MIUI V5, much better than both stock & CM. Never tried custom kernels though. I even tried other Chinese ROMs (based on stock) to see if better. Battery, UI etc were more than satisfactory with MIUI but lags in games and sometimes hanging while opening apps were still frustrating. Then one day I saw "Performance Booster" somewhere & gave a try with free version first. It drastically changed the performance then I installed donate version which improved overall experience. As mentioned in the app it didn't improve benchmarks but improved phones performance for sure. In other words, it saved my money from buying a new phone. Now I don't need new one as I have 'Huawei Mediapad X1' for reading, games & watching videos, which I bought here in China for less than 300$ (it's 400 Euros outside China).
So what is it? I don't try to be rude, but at least you can share where we can find it or something. I know Google it's a good friend but I don't know what exactly. BTW thanks for share your experience
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So what is it? I don't try to be rude, but at least you can share where we can find it or something. I know Google it's a good friend but I don't know what exactly. BTW thanks for share your experience
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I think it's not allowed to post links to apps here in this forum so didn't post. You can search in play store, it's there, give a try & see yourself.
{fd}ware said:
I don't think that it's forbidden to post links, as long as you don't earn money by doing so (for example adfly links). But I'm not absolutely sure.
I've also searched the app on the Play Store, couldn't find any app called "Performance Booster" though.
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Im guessing hes talking about this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.performancebooster Which i would highly recommend not using.
This is from the description:
Performance Booster will change the kernel process for managing all layers such Android Runtime in Core Libraries and Dalvik VM layers, User Libraries layer, Application Framework layer, and Applications layer.
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This is gibberish, makes no sense. And thats the best description they give of what it does. All of this *developers* apps look fake and possibly/ quite likely are malicious in nature. All their apps are 86K in size
I have tested by curiosity, and my conclusion is "I haven't seen any clear effect"
So... immediately uninstalled
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This is gibberish, makes no sense. And thats the best description they give of what it does. All of this *developers* apps look fake and possibly/ quite likely are malicious in nature. All their apps are 86K in size
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Got curious and decompiled the apk. Most of the stuff is license checking. Otherwise it sets a few process management properties and that's all.
Adam77Root said:
Got curious and decompiled the apk. Most of the stuff is license checking. Otherwise it sets a few process management properties and that's all.
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So generally speaking, pretty useless eh?
MidnightDevil said:
So generally speaking, pretty useless eh?
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Mostly yeah, which is why this thread is finally being moved into general section (where all shares are supposed to go into) as well as closed.

4.4.2 Vs 4.2.2 is it worth the switch?

I've seen posts of several loving 4.4 and others going back to 4.2. Is it worth it? Battery life? Are there known bugs and issues?
Imo, its still very much subjective. As much as I've frequented here throughout the years,I would probably still be considered a noob. With that being said, here are my thoughts
Initially I was regretting the update. My battery life being terrible was my biggest gripe. I decided to root it only three days of having the stock 4.4 rom. Once I did that, my battery life levels returned to 4.2 levels. I'm getting about 15 hours off a single charge which is huge for me. Not sure if rooting actually made the difference but that's the only thing I changed after I initially made the switch.
Plus I love the new camera app which isn't offered for 4.2. I just wish Google incorporated a long press to kill apps feature. Seems like the only way you can get that is through a custom rom
Also, my screen rotation seems to be broken. It works on certain apps and not on others. It will work if I click on a video within flipboard, but not in my picture gallery. I can deal with it for a while but not too much longer
Reel E. Weird said:
Imo, its still very much subjective. As much as I've frequented here throughout the years,I would probably still be considered a noob. With that being said, here are my thoughts
Initially I was regretting the update. My battery life being terrible was my biggest gripe. I decided to root it only three days of having the stock 4.4 rom. Once I did that, my battery life levels returned to 4.2 levels. I'm getting about 15 hours off a single charge which is huge for me. Not sure if rooting actually made the difference but that's the only thing I changed after I initially made the switch.
Plus I love the new camera app which isn't offered for 4.2. I just wish Google incorporated a long press to kill apps feature. Seems like the only way you can get that is through a custom rom
Also, my screen rotation seems to be broken. It works on certain apps and not on others. It will work if I click on a video within flipboard, but not in my picture gallery. I can deal with it for a while but not too much longer
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You may want to look into xposed framework and either wanam or gravitybox. It will give you your long press back to kill along with a while host of other features. I could never live on a stock ROM without one of those.
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Duckman5 said:
You may want to look into xposed framework and either wanam or gravitybox. It will give you your long press back to kill along with a while host of other features. I could never live on a stock ROM without one of those.
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Dude, you are a life saver! I was able to put it on my phone with absolutely no problems. Long press to kill is back!
You wouldn't by chance happen to know how to fix the screen rotation problem would you?
Reel E. Weird said:
Dude, you are a life saver! I was able to put it on my phone with absolutely no problems. Long press to kill is back!
You wouldn't by chance happen to know how to fix the screen rotation problem would you?
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Honestly, no. That's really weird that it's hit or miss like that. There's a reason they pulled that update, though. I'm wondering if there's not different hardware revisions or something and 4.4.2 just works better with some than others. Only suggestion I could make is make a nandroid, do a factory reset, and see if that fixes it. If not, just restore your backup.
Did you make any other modifications or delete any system apps after rooting?
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Duckman5 said:
Honestly, no. That's really weird that it's hit or miss like that. There's a reason they pulled that update, though. I'm wondering if there's not different hardware revisions or something and 4.4.2 just works better with some than others. Only suggestion I could make is make a nandroid, do a factory reset, and see if that fixes it. If not, just restore your backup.
Did you make any other modifications or delete any system apps after rooting?
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I actually saw something that suggested it was related to the removal of the Samsung hub app. I could probably do a reflash but I'm Judy now getting all my settings finalized. Idk man
Reel E. Weird said:
I actually saw something that suggested it was related to the removal of the Samsung hub app. I could probably do a reflash but I'm Judy now getting all my settings finalized. Idk man
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No idea how or why that might make a difference, but I made a backup of mine with Titanium Backup and I've attached an archive with the files in it. You can use that to reinstall it. I just froze all the stupid system apps on my phone. I figured it was safer that way. Anyway, let me know if that works. Hope it does.
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can anyone upload the camera app+need apps for camera from 4.4.2 ?
Duckman5 said:
No idea how or why that might make a difference, but I made a backup of mine with Titanium Backup and I've attached an archive with the files in it. You can use that to reinstall it. I just froze all the stupid system apps on my phone. I figured it was safer that way. Anyway, let me know if that works. Hope it does.
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Damn, thanks dude
My only "issue" is that I was trying to free up some internal memory. Freezing apps doesnt get rid of them right? It just suspends them from showing up in your app tray correct?
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d31v1d said:
can anyone upload the camera app+need apps for camera from 4.4.2 ?
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Why not just d/l the new google camera app from the play store? Its better (at least it is to me) than the stock camera.
Reel E. Weird said:
Damn, thanks dude
My only "issue" is that I was trying to free up some internal memory. Freezing apps doesnt get rid of them right? It just suspends them from showing up in your app tray correct?
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Why not just d/l the new google camera app from the play store? Its better (at least it is to me) than the stock camera.
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System apps live on a different partition from your regular apps and so do their .dex files (for odexed roms, which stock usually is). So no, unless you need to push some apps (supersu? ) to the /system/ partition, there is no need to free up space. Just uninstall updates and freeze.
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LG Please know we hate this. Let us turn this annoying feature off

This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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painedglass said:
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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TWRP now too.. ROMS will be flowing soon.
Meh, I left the steaming pile of hardware failures that is a Nexus 6 for the G4. Volume rockers stopped working on the first one, new phone had screen issues, ya, the N6 isn't the greatest phone ever.
lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Angry much?
painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Because clicking a check box to unlock the bootloader is so hard. Root takes time on all modern devices.
Hahaha... Now root being available, I've installed debloated ROM and 3000mah battery serves me really well. Not to mention boost in speed as well. On stock ROM, I was missing my nexus 5 so much.
I hope you stuck around for a little longer. Feels like beasty phone just got injected with the steroid.
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Agreed....I was fed up with this phone.....root came and glory glory amen it's a better phone. Even with just a simple debloated ROM....can't wait till they really tweak the stock ROM like crazy. I probably won't go aosp....because of the camera app...whole reason I bought the phone...it deletes the side car RAW file in the default gallery aosp can't do that...neither can manual camera app or Fv5
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The thermal throttling and stuff needs some crazy tweaking...and a better kernel...my apps have to re draw too much...memory leak somewhere
Kingaries79 said:
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
ExTREmE99 said:
this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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I checked and I still get the dialog box, make sure the option is checked in the call settings. I'm not sure what you mean about the notification bar, but I can drag down and click on the call, which brings me back to the call.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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Thanks for this
Seems like a really silly reason to get rid of an otherwise awesome phone...
What's funny is that the current root methods as dangerous as they are. Are no more dangerous then when I had my Evo4g, and that team didn't have something like "OEM Unlock" to make it easier. No risk, no reward.
Not to mention that you can drag that icon anywhere on the screen so i dont see how it can be so intrucive during other app usage. Also why dont you just talk on the phone, your on a call, pay attention and stop playing with other apps, real easy
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Apex said:
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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your point is?
Would you be so kind as to elaborate on
XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts
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*Nougat 7.0* List of Disabled Bloatware on S7 edge At&t Variant

Hello there,
I'm looking for a list of applications that I can disable without ruin other features or apps but I found nothing. If anyone have a list of that apps please share with us. :highfive: I already disable the at&t apps and other that I don't use with Package Disabler Pro. My battery was on %100 at 10pm and overnight is down to %93-%94 with all apps closed and nothing running in the background, is ridiculous.
Post your list of the most be disabled apps for S7 Edge At&t Variant!! :good::good:
elnene03 said:
Hello there,
I'm looking for a list of applications that I can disable without ruin other features or apps but I found nothing. If anyone have a list of that apps please share with us. :highfive: I already disable the at&t apps and other that I don't use with Package Disabler Pro. My battery was on %100 at 10pm and overnight is down to %93-%94 with all apps closed and nothing running in the background, is ridiculous.
Post your list of the most be disabled apps for S7 Edge At&t Variant!! :good::good:
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Overnight, mean 1 hour or 10 hours? Usual usage of battery on stand by is around 1.5% per hour. I got all att apps off plus some Google apps like Google play or music. In standby mode my phone is using around amount I said 1.5% per hour.
Clicking from Edge of Galaxy
Why has no one posted about this. I'd like an updated system list to disable too. This is what I have so far, some are installed by me and just temp disabled. I figured with more than 700 views someone would have already done this lol.
I'm sure there is more Samsung and Android stuff, come on people lol. Post your disabled lists for comparison.
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rbedell said:
Why has no one posted about this. I'd like an updated system list to disable too. This is what I have so far, some are installed by me and just temp disabled. I figured with more than 700 views someone would have already done this lol.
I'm sure there is more Samsung and Android stuff, come on people lol. Post your disabled lists for comparison.
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Appreciate the effort, but the image is compressed beyond readability. Might want to cut it in half upload again as two separate images?
Duckman5 said:
Appreciate the effort, but the image is compressed beyond readability. Might want to cut it in half upload again as two separate images?
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Are there really people disabling Samsung Pay? Hard for me to believe. I've only been using it for like 6 months and I've earned well over $100 in free stuff. Just for using tap and pay with my same card instead of just swiping the card. Totally worth it. Just building up a note 8 fund.
Hmm wow all that is disabled damn, you might as well buy a flip phone!
Venom0642 said:
Hmm wow all that is disabled damn, you might as well buy a flip phone!
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Less than usage makes for a smoother operating system. Plus when I need something I can just re enable it.
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ShrekOpher said:
Are there really people disabling Samsung Pay? Hard for me to believe. I've only been using it for like 6 months and I've earned well over $100 in free stuff. Just for using tap and pay with my same card instead of just swiping the card. Totally worth it. Just building up a note 8 fund.
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I would use it if it worked with my bank card. My CC works with it but that encourages me to spend on credit.
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ShrekOpher said:
Are there really people disabling Samsung Pay? Hard for me to believe. I've only been using it for like 6 months and I've earned well over $100 in free stuff. Just for using tap and pay with my same card instead of just swiping the card. Totally worth it. Just building up a note 8 fund.
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I'd rather have root and it only works credit cards, which I'm trying to pay off not add to.
im half tempted to ditch the U firmware and put the stock at&t firmware back on mine, im tired of waiting for an update and i miss calling over wifi, my signal is horrible in the part of town where i live.

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