Android Auto and USB Type C - Android Auto General

What are peoples thoughts on the compatibility of new phones with USB Type C and aftermarket head units such as Pioneer? Would it be as simple as getting a new USB Type C wire that plugs into the USB on the head unit? Or do you think it will bork the whole system and we'll have to wait for neither Google or Pioneer to issue and update?

USB-C is fully backwards compatible, because of this I don't foresee any issues?

rpjwalter said:
What are peoples thoughts on the compatibility of new phones with USB Type C and aftermarket head units such as Pioneer? Would it be as simple as getting a new USB Type C wire that plugs into the USB on the head unit? Or do you think it will bork the whole system and we'll have to wait for neither Google or Pioneer to issue and update?
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It should work just fine. You could probably just get a cable like this one and call it a day:
https://usb.brando.com/usb-3-1-type-c-male-to-usb-3-0-a-male-cable_p12379c0032d015.html

Using it fine here (Nexus 6p, USB C to USB A cable, pioneer AVH-X8700bt).
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I've got a 6P (stock but rooted) and an 8100NEX. It works just fine. It's a USB 3.1 -> USB-C cable and I've had not one issue.

I've also got a nexus 6p stock 6.0.1 using a pioneer AVIC-F77DAB with no issues. I did have an issue at the start using an aftermarket USB-C cable I purchased of ebay but once I switch the cable out to the one I got with the phone it works like a dream
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On a related note, it would be nice if the unit supported Quick Charge

lazytt said:
On a related note, it would be nice if the unit supported Quick Charge
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I've got a Pioneer 8100NEX and it works fine with the USB-A -> USB-C cable I bought. I've had no issues and it does the "Rapidly Charging" thing. I would assume all of the NEX series do if the 8100 does.
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Ah, thats good to know! I hope the new JBL unit does that too

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Docks

Who here has purchased a Vehicle or Desk (or any other dock you found for your Atrix HD), and what are your opinions about that docks?
I own both the Vehicle and Desk docks and i don't like how the audio cable isn't built into the vehicle dock like it is in the desk dock. otherwise i like both of the docks.
a note on the vehicle dock: you need to find the right sized case to fit properly in the dock without the inside part. I bought the Incipio Feather Case, and it was too small and the phone looked like it had no support inside the car dock so i had to add the inside piece back in and remove the case from the phone every time i use my car.
My phone will not fit the desk dock without removing the case. But the desk dock doesn't do anything I care about; it didn't even come with the HDMI cable. It's nothing more than an oversized kickstand....but it was free
The car dock was also free. I like that the vehicle dock works better with my case because the plug part slides independant of the frame. I don't like that there's no option to keep it from auto launching vehicle mode. The reason they do not have it automatically plugging into your audio jack is because if you have bluetooth on your radio (and I do) it would look cheap to have a cable hanging all the time.
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jeffdaman said:
My phone will not fit the desk dock without removing the case. But the desk dock doesn't do anything I care about; it didn't even come with the HDMI cable. It's nothing more than an oversized kickstand....but it was free
The car dock was also free. I like that the vehicle dock works better with my case because the plug part slides independant of the frame. I don't like that there's no option to keep it from auto launching vehicle mode. The reason they do not have it automatically plugging into your audio jack is because if you have bluetooth on your radio (and I do) it would look cheap to have a cable hanging all the time.
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Have you tried disabling car mode app? That should keep it from launching.
Go to settings> apps>all> find vehicle mode, select it, then disable.
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jeffdaman said:
My phone will not fit the desk dock without removing the case. But the desk dock doesn't do anything I care about; it didn't even come with the HDMI cable. It's nothing more than an oversized kickstand....but it was free
The car dock was also free. I like that the vehicle dock works better with my case because the plug part slides independant of the frame. I don't like that there's no option to keep it from auto launching vehicle mode. The reason they do not have it automatically plugging into your audio jack is because if you have bluetooth on your radio (and I do) it would look cheap to have a cable hanging all the time.
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I am it came with a 3.5mm cable, but it doesnt have a built in plug for it. The charger cable can also be disconnected, and they had fine in older car docks as well as the desk dock
The RAZR/RAZR MAXX docks work as well. One of the users over at AtrixForums,com has successfully used the RAZR Desk Dock (89527N) with the Atrix HD. It's essentially the same as the one they are selling for the AHD, but it can be found for cheaper (not sure if the insert might be different). I am using the RAZR Dock Station (89526N) with the AHD. in addition to the HDMI and audio ports, it also has 3 USB ports and includes the HDMI cable. The USB ports function perfectly with the AHD.
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I have a question for anyone who has the car dock for the AHD (whether you got it free from AT&T or Costco, or purchased it retail). Did it come with a charging/audio cable? I got mine in the mail today from the Costco rebate thing (mailed the rebate form 2 weeks ago today before Thanksgiving) and it had the dock assembly and the mounting arm/suction cup... No cables. I tried the charging/audio cable from my Atrix 4G car dock and it works perfectly (including audio), but I'm wondering if the cable was supposed to be included or perhaps its only included if you buy retail.
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Yes, my came with a USB charging cable and a 3.5mm audio cable.
diamond12 said:
Yes, my came with a USB charging cable and a 3.5mm audio cable.
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Where did you get yours?
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Mine also came with both cables and I got it for 5 bucks on eBay
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hwlester said:
Where did you get yours?
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Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008N8GHDU
Note that the USB cable is not the same as the one that comes with the Atrix 4G dock p/n SKN6394A, which also has an audio connector at the end
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
It is p/n SKN6428A, which is just a micro USB to USB cable.
diamond12 said:
Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008N8GHDU
Note that the USB cable is not the same as the one that comes with the Atrix 4G dock p/n SKN6394A, which also has an audio connector at the end
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
It is p/n SKN6428A, which is just a micro USB to USB cable.
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So, you essentially got just a charging cable which plugs into the dock and also an auxiliary cable which you plug from the headphone jack to your car?
$20 for that cable? Ouch.
SirHoover2010 said:
Mine also came with both cables and I got it for 5 bucks on eBay
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How about yours? Does the USB cable carry both power and audio like the 4G one did?
My 4G cable works fine with this dock, even though the Atrix HD is not listed as compatible on that other cable. If Motorola is just including plain cables, perhaps Costco is counting the bonus charger and cables they gave me as the cables I'm supposed to use with the dock. Costco didn't include an aux cable, though.
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hwlester said:
So, you essentially got just a charging cable which plugs into the dock and also an auxiliary cable which you plug from the headphone jack to your car?
$20 for that cable? Ouch.
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Well, I kept the 4G cable. Definitely don't wanna be plugging in an audio cable. Can also confirm the 4G cable works fine. It's actually funny, if I also plug the headphone the sound stops coming from the dock and comes from the headphone output.
diamond12 said:
Well, I kept the 4G cable. Definitely don't wanna be plugging in an audio cable. Can also confirm the 4G cable works fine. It's actually funny, if I also plug the headphone the sound stops coming from the dock and comes from the headphone output.
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Aha, so you GOT both USB and auxiliary cables, but you're using the 4G cable like I am.
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hwlester said:
The RAZR/RAZR MAXX docks work as well. One of the users over at AtrixForums,com has successfully used the RAZR Desk Dock (89527N) with the Atrix HD. It's essentially the same as the one they are selling for the AHD, but it can be found for cheaper (not sure if the insert might be different). I am using the RAZR Dock Station (89526N) with the AHD. in addition to the HDMI and audio ports, it also has 3 USB ports and includes the HDMI cable. The USB ports function perfectly with the AHD.
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Just got a RAZR dock station too and can confirm the USB ports work perfectly. Keyboard, mouse and flash disks!
diamond12 said:
Just got a RAZR dock station too and can confirm the USB ports work perfectly. Keyboard, mouse and flash disks!
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Good to know. I haven't tried a USB mouse or keyboard, but I suspected they would work as well.
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Help with chargers / cables

Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
EDIT:
I figured it all out. I ended up order the following:
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB to USB C Cable ( This will be my data / sync cable)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S8GU2OC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB C to USB C Cable ( This will be for my car)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKL4TY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Vinsic 3A USB C Car Charger (This has a USB C and a USB Port)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
The Cable Matters USB to USB C has been confirmed compliant by Benson Leung so I wont have to worry about it frying any USB ports on my computer. lol
Rektifying said:
Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
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Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to burning out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
EeZeEpEe said:
Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to bring out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Thank you for clarifying. I thought I had it right I just wanted to make sure.
Also, I came across a 3A car charger. I already ordered it. There were a couple reviews that stated it wouldn't run at 3A, but there were also reviews stating that it does run on 3A IF you use the USB C port only. (It has a USB and a USB C Port) So I am assuming the people who had issues were probably using the USB side.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?redirect=true&ref_=ya_st_dp_summary
gleggie said:
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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Thank you for the link! Everything I just ordered is on that list as approved! lol
minnemike said:
Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I'm trying to hunt down the article where I read it. I will update when I find it. (with a new post)
minnemike said:
Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I can't find the article I read that stated QC 3.0 (I think they were wrong anyways), but I did hop over to the iFixit Nexus 5X tear down page. I remembered that they always list the IC's on logic boards for their tear downs. Sure enough, the Nexus 5X has the Qualcomm SMB1358 Quick Charge 2.0 IC.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318

Wall Charger with USB A and USB C ports

Is anybody aware of a wall charger that has both ports for USB A and USB C? I want to be able to charge my 5x along with my girlfriend's s6 at the same time, along with some other microUSB devices. It would be ideal for the USB C port to output 3A and the USB A port to output 2.4A. I've had no luck searching for anything like this.
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thesoldier said:
Is anybody aware of a wall charger that has both ports for USB A and USB C? I want to be able to charge my 5x along with my girlfriend's s6 at the same time, along with some other microUSB devices. It would be ideal for the USB C port to output 3A and the USB A port to output 2.4A. I've had no luck searching for anything like this.
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I've only seen a desktop multi charger. Something like 5 ports and one of them being type C.
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I'm guessing this is maybe what you're looking for. Not sure if it can charge one at 3.0 and one at 2.4 but it does have both ports. Unfortunately since I am a new member I can't post a link but it's called the "Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger". You should be able to find it if you search on google.
xVaughan said:
I'm guessing this is maybe what you're looking for. Not sure if it can charge one at 3.0 and one at 2.4 but it does have both ports. Unfortunately since I am a new member I can't post a link but it's called the "Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger". You should be able to find it if you search on google.
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Yeah I saw that one too but didn't mention it since it wasn't fast charging.
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xVaughan said:
I'm guessing this is maybe what you're looking for. Not sure if it can charge one at 3.0 and one at 2.4 but it does have both ports. Unfortunately since I am a new member I can't post a link but it's called the "Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger". You should be able to find it if you search on google.
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Good find thanks, definitely what I was looking for. Just a little expensive at $23...hopefully they start becoming more common soon.
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Anker offer a desktop charger with one USB C 3A and 4 standard 2.4 A USB ports, total output 40W. Likely to be over budget though...o
There is the Choetech wall charger with 1 x USB C and 2 x USB A ports. It can do 1 x 3 amp and 2 x 2.4 A simultaneously.
It's reviewed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...iew-choetech-39w-3-port-wall-charger-t3315872
I have the UK version and it works great with the 5x. Choetech cables (I have a C to C and A to C) are great quality. I think they make the oem cables for Google (I'm sure someone will correct me if this isn't right)
this one is also pretty good, just don't expect to be able to use all 3 ports at max output:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A8V6RI4?ref_=cm_rdp_product
perfect for a phone, a smartwatch, and an accessory though

Charging Dock?

Anyone got a charging dock? or recommend one please OP3 on its way and like to have it stood up next to the bed like!
I would also like any suggestions for a cradle/dock. There are plenty of USB C cradles listed on Amazon and other sites, but they don't seem to support the Oneplus charging system.
Anyone know of a cradle/dock that would allow me to use the USB C cable that came with the OnePlus 3?
well if it's a usb dock overnight charging should be ok regardless of dash or not? I'm thinking if there isn't one soon I'll make one or something using a dash cable.
This one I am looking:
https://www.amazon.es/Type-C-soport...68248445&sr=8-14&keywords=base+de+carga+usb+c
It is Benson-tested (Benson is the Google Engineer that started all the thread about USB Type-C compliancy). It will NOT fast-charge or Dash-Charge your phone, but it will also not make a fire out of your phone. worth a try, I think I will order it soon.
glaudrem said:
This one I am looking:
https://www.amazon.es/Type-C-soport...68248445&sr=8-14&keywords=base+de+carga+usb+c
It is Benson-tested (Benson is the Google Engineer that started all the thread about USB Type-C compliancy). It will NOT fast-charge or Dash-Charge your phone, but it will also not make a fire out of your phone. worth a try, I think I will order it soon.
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its the same im using. a bit tricky to plug the phone in without looking closely, but it works

OTG + Charging cable or hub

Hello everyone,
I'm looking for good USB Type-C compliant OTG cables. I'm stumbled upon cables that provides nice feature of keeping the phone charged while utilizing the OTG port.
Take a look at this :
http://www.banggood.com/BASEUS-USB-C-Type-C-to-USB-3_0-HUB-Adapter-Charging-Date-Sync-For-New-Macbook-Chromebook-LETV-Phone-p-1030330.html?p=QZ14021624945201505Y
or this Y cable
https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Macbook-Chromebook-Surface-Supportted/dp/B01AJMDQDG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1471884770&sr=1-1&keywords=type-c+power+y+otg+cable
Do you think these are compatible with OnePlus 3 ? or would they damage the phone if used ?
Funny you should mention. I have the Amazon one arriving tomorrow (going to attempt it with a display link adapter now that they are compatible). Either way I'll update either tomorrow eve or Wednesday and let you know!
I'm currently testing nougat on my 5x and will try on both devices.
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And the jury is in. On both my one plus 3 and 5x you can not charge and use anything at the same time. The y cable will only supply power to whatever device you have plugged in.
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Was doing a search for this exact same the anyone had any luck?

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