Hey guys.. recently I sold my Oneplus Two after using it for 1 year and bought new LG G4. But I bought it thinking I can enjoy entirely new things. But unfortunately I lost my enthusiasm. I didn't love the phone for many reason. 1. Battery life is very low. 2. No unlock bootloader. 3. No root for Marshmallow. 4. Phone heats up very quick. And many cons too. Now I'm planning to downgrade to phone with good specs and not too high end. So I thought of choosing Nexus 6. What do you guys think ? Is it a right choice to buy used one with 203 dollar ? ...
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the n6 might have too high of specs for you
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the n6 might have too high of specs for you
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Simms i didnt mean that way.. But i mean not high end because i dont want people to point me at the phone such as Nexus 6P.. But do you think its a good idea if i move to Nexus 6 now ? Because its already 1 year old if im not wrong.
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I came from G4 to a Note 5 then to a Nexus 6. And would much rather have the Nexus 6 than either of those. I think you will be satisfied.
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Simms i didnt mean that way.. But i mean not high end because i dont want people to point me at the phone such as Nexus 6P.. But do you think its a good idea if i move to Nexus 6 now ? Because its already 1 year old if im not wrong.
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yea, the n6 is still a great phone, even though its not brand new
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yea, the n6 is still a great phone, even though its not brand new
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Yea planned to buy... Do you Think used one with 32gb at 203 dollar is worth ?
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Just this month I had an option to upgrade to a new phone. I chose buying a used Nexus 6 instead. I could not be happier. It has what I always try and make phones, stock android. There is still tons of developing going on. I don't even care that it is an older phone. I had the LG G3.
We can't answer that. Only you can. Nexus like you said yourself is considered old, however many of us would not consider the phones out now a considerable upgrade.
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Yea planned to buy... Do you Think used one with 32gb at 203 dollar is worth ?
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I bought mine for $650.. so $203 is a no brained.
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Yea planned to buy... Do you Think used one with 32gb at 203 dollar is worth ?
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You need to ask yourself whether 32GB is going to be enough storage for your needs. The Nexus phones don't have expandable storage.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You need to ask yourself whether 32GB is going to be enough storage for your needs. The Nexus phones don't have expandable storage.
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sure it does.. just not via sdcard.
I don't know about you, but in the OP's situation I wouldn't want to have to play around with a dongle sitting in my USB port simply to increase my storage space. Using a USB OTG device is inconvenient except in certain use cases, such as at home backing up a device with TWRP. USB OTG may be expandable storage, but it's simply not optimal. Thus the OP still needs to ask himself whether 32GB is enough.
I don't think 32GB is enough, not without being ruthless in your space management. I know you'll probably disagree, but I'm willing to lay odds that as an owner of a 32GB model you're pretty ruthless in your space management. Owners of 64GB devices have the luxury of not having to be so ruthless, and I really think it adds to the enjoyment of the device.
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I don't know about you, but in the OP's situation I wouldn't want to have to play around with a dongle sitting in my USB port simply to increase my storage space. Using a USB OTG device is inconvenient except in certain use cases, such as at home backing up a device with TWRP. USB OTG may be expandable storage, but it's simply not optimal. Thus the OP still needs to ask himself whether 32GB is enough.
I don't think 32GB is enough, not without being ruthless in your space management. I know you'll probably disagree, but I'm willing to lay odds that as an owner of a 32GB model you're pretty ruthless in your space management. Owners of 64GB devices have the luxury of not having to be so ruthless, and I really think it adds to the enjoyment of the device.
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I don't use otg, but it is an option in expandable storage.. you said there aren't any options. I have a 32gb n6. I bought it in nov, 2014. anyways, 32gb is more than enough for me. and I mod my device, nearly daily. and have 2 3.5gb+ nandroid back ups in my storage. before n6, I always had 16gb. now 32gb is spacious for me. also, I'm an amateur photographer that only uses the n6 for photography. what I don't do is keep music on my device, that's what seems to save me. I use google play music services, and I always have that to use. when I take a subway home from work, I'll download several albums to listen to, beforehand. BTW, on tmobile, unlimited high speed data, in NYC
I forgot about USB OTG as an option. I stand corrected on that.
Like I said, you're ruthless in your space management, where I don't have to be. That however doesn't mean I'm not. If I were to put my stuff on your device, it would all fit with about a gigabyte left. Having used devices with far less storage, space management became an art form with me. But on this device, not worrying about how much space I'm using is liberating, and it's that liberating feeling that makes using this device more enjoyable.
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I forgot about USB OTG as an option. I stand corrected on that.
Like I said, you're ruthless in your space management, where I don't have to be. That however doesn't mean I'm not. If I were to put my stuff on your device, it would all fit with about a gigabyte left. Having used devices with far less storage, space management became an art form with me. But on this device, not worrying about how much space I'm using is liberating, and it's that liberating feeling that makes using this device more enjoyable.
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ruthless, I'd never say that in this case. over time, I do end up deleting a lot though.
Had the G4 last year. Decided to sell it after a few months due to the subpar battery life. I do miss the camera and brighter screen, however, I prefer the N6 for the bigger screen, much better battery life, wireless charging and Project Fi. $200 for a used N6 is still a good price.
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ruthless, I'd never say that in this case. over time, I do end up deleting a lot though.
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Of course you could shunt what you delete to cloud storage. But the fact you have to pick and choose what to keep on your phone only proves correct what some sites, for example Android Authority, are saying now about devices with 32GB storage: it's really too small these days, so the OP really needs to think this through. Currently Swappa has 64GB models for a low of $280. $200 is an excellent deal for a 32GB device, depending on condition. But is the price worth the potential inconvenience the smaller amount of storage may impose?
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In my entire phone history, I have only ever owned and used 2 Android devices - the HTC Desire (with its awful amount of storage) and now the Samsung Galaxy Note. My Note is a fantastic behemoth of a phone, and perhaps even a tablet, but the Nexus 7 still appeals to me. As I like to not waste battery life of my phone, I'm not in a position to always use it heavily as I may need it to last the rest of the day rather than have it burn out after five hours of film watching in the morning. A tablet sounds appealing since I feel I no longer need a laptop besides for the occasional piece of homework where I shall need a keyboard and spend the majority of my time just on Facebook, the XDA forums, Blogger, YouTube and other basic web services. So, do you think the Nexus 7 is any good for me?
I think so, the only concern you should have is whether the small screen size jump justifies a new device. If you are fine with owning a 5in and 7in device, this seems like a nice product to do all your browsing on so you are not sucking the phone dry.
The screen jump size is pretty minimal and, in my mind, I find it hard to justify. Whilst I don't take my phone to school, however, I do like for it to last the day and giving it the intense usage of a tablet it just won't manage that. I brought the Note to purposely save the cost of a tablet also, yet this Nexus 7 seems an absolute bargain with pretty good specification. Plus, I suspect it'll have some great support and the idea of a pure Google experience interests me.
Also, is it possible to have multiple user profiles through different Google accounts on Android? As my family and I may split the costs, yet we wouldn't want each other accessing our Google accounts.
Do you think the extra 8GB to 16GB is worth the extra £41 GBP or so?
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Just wait till the end of July, hold it in your hands and decide for yourself and live with no regrets.
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But, how will I be able to hold it in my hands? Is it going to be available in shops?
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Do you think the extra 8GB to 16GB is worth the extra £41 GBP or so?
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I'd say yes
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I'd say yes
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I'm going to hold off on it for now. I don't really have the money and 2 inches isn't enough to warrant another device. My Galaxy Note is pretty great...
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The screen jump size is pretty minimal and, in my mind, I find it hard to justify. Whilst I don't take my phone to school, however, I do like for it to last the day and giving it the intense usage of a tablet it just won't manage that. I brought the Note to purposely save the cost of a tablet also, yet this Nexus 7 seems an absolute bargain with pretty good specification. Plus, I suspect it'll have some great support and the idea of a pure Google experience interests me.
Also, is it possible to have multiple user profiles through different Google accounts on Android? As my family and I may split the costs, yet we wouldn't want each other accessing our Google accounts.
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I was also curious about the mulitple profiles idea. It would be great if my wife and I could have different profiles that store credentials, bookmarks, favorite apps, etc. Anyone have insight on this?
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I was also curious about the mulitple profiles idea. It would be great if my wife and I could have different profiles that store credentials, bookmarks, favorite apps, etc. Anyone have insight on this?
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I'd love for Google to implement this themselves on tablet versions of Jelly Bean, as in my opinion tablets are a device used by more than one person unlike a phone. Yet, if I were to buy a tablet, I'd feel uncomfortable letting my family use it cause I don't want them accessing my YouTube, Gmail and all my accounts that are tied to the tab.
Do people here think it is worth it or not?
It'll be in shops a week after preordered units are shipped out according to some sources. They say just the 16gb though as the 8gb will only be available in the play store
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It'll be in shops a week after preordered units are shipped out according to some sources. They say just the 16gb though as the 8gb will only be available in the play store
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Okay. Still can't decide whether to buy this or not. I could just install Paranoid Android, which will allow me to run apps in tablet or phone mode, onto my Note and then there would be just 2 inches screen difference. Yet, a pure Google experience without the risk of flashing and the latest Android version all seems really appealing to me. I suppose it'll take me a while to safe up the cash anyway, which will give me time to think.
I think the size difference is too small to be worth it. Plus the 8-16 GB limitation. You already have a device that can pretty much double up as a tablet for all the things you posted about. Just get an extra battery (and/or the 5400 mah one) and you'll be good to go.
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I think the size difference is too small to be worth it. Plus the 8-16 GB limitation. You already have a device that can pretty much double up as a tablet for all the things you posted about. Just get an extra battery (and/or the 5400 mah one) and you'll be good to go.
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I think so too. I'm looking into Paranoid Android, which will allow me to actually run tablet apps. Hopefully that'll help a bit. On a side note, do you think there'll be much of a performance difference between the Nexus 7 and Note?
Note has dual-core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
Nexus 7 has quad-core clocked at 1.3Ghz.
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I'd love for Google to implement this themselves on tablet versions of Jelly Bean, as in my opinion tablets are a device used by more than one person unlike a phone. Yet, if I were to buy a tablet, I'd feel uncomfortable letting my family use it cause I don't want them accessing my YouTube, Gmail and all my accounts that are tied to the tab.
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Try an app called "app lock", it's really useful for stopping people accessing apps with your personal info when you let them borrow your phone/tablet.
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I think so too. I'm looking into Paranoid Android, which will allow me to actually run tablet apps. Hopefully that'll help a bit. On a side note, do you think there'll be much of a performance difference between the Nexus 7 and Note?
Note has dual-core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
Nexus 7 has quad-core clocked at 1.3Ghz.
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The difference will be massive (from what i've heard) because of jellybean's "project butter". So the question is when the devs make jellybean available for you.
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I am not sure whether I "need" one either. I already have a MacBook Pro, a SGS2 and a iPad 3 wifi only. Any idea what I should do, I really want one to experience some Jelly Bean!
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I am not sure whether I "need" one either. I already have a MacBook Pro, a SGS2 and a iPad 3 wifi only. Any idea what I should do, I really want one to experience some Jelly Bean!
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The question is, do you use your iPad often? If not then what's the point? I'm pretty sure that sooner or later (if not already) there will be a port of Jelly Bean for you SGS2.
If you really want it that bad for no reason, why not just sell you iPad then buy the Nexus 7. You'll be gaining money too that way
IMHO, the answer is yes. Not only are they not including a memory card slot, but they are now intentionally removing the ability to attach external mass storage to the device. This feature has been built into android for a couple of versions now and the only possible reason is them forcing you to use their cloud, which is compounded by this being a wifi-only device.
Google, I'm really starting to be frustrated by your choices. Yes, this will be hacked to a solution, but it shouldn't have to be. I really REALLY really want to like the nexus 7 and buy one, but I just can't. Not in this handicapped format. That's just my 2 cent rant.
usb otg still works though..
Pretty sure it was just to keep costs down...
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Pretty sure it was just to keep costs down...
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For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
Seeing how Cloud functionality is Google's bread and butter, it seems only logical that they would do something like this, as they are attracting people to their ecosystem. The N7 is the perfect consumption device to do this.
For content creation, you should probably consider either an iPad or laptop, and again to hold stuff like various media and software, you would be better off with an Archos tablet, like the G9 series.
It even tells you when you try to buy the device that 'Nexus 7 was built for Google Play' it's not like they are trying to deceive people, so people with the wrong expectation that jump into purchasing one only have theirselves to blame:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb
I admit disappointment in not having microSD or the $50 upgrade for 8GB of additional storage. But I don't think Google is evil. I feel like I'm still getting a great deal out of this. Google and ASUS are making very little off the hardware, so it's natural that Google is going to put some limitations in to push people towards it's cloud content. I felt it was a reasonable compromise, so I bought one.
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For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
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I'm talking about the SD card slot. Also nexus devices haven't had an SD slot since the Nexus One. This is the way they want to go.
As far as USB storage. I'm pretty sure you can't use a USB stick via OTG without root access anyway.
I would state my opinions on both but I'm sure they differ from yours, so I will refrain to avoid a flame fest.
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For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
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30 cents isn't much per unit but when you consider it's 30 cents say multiplied by 500,00 it adds up. Jellybean isn't out yet, it could be something as simple as bug that's causing the usb issues.
El Daddy I know the sgs 2 can do usb stick via otg without root.
I don't understand what the problem is. You stated that you're not buying it, therefore you're not stuck with something you don't want. There are plenty of tablets out there; surely there's ONE with the specs you want to buy. Why call Google evil because they didn't make something YOU want? It's a business decision. What do you call the other companies that don't live up to your expectations??
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But I don't think Google is evil. I feel like I'm still getting a great deal out of this. Google and ASUS are making very little off the hardware, so it's natural that Google is going to put some limitations in to push people towards it's cloud content.
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They essentially neutered a good tablet (the Asus Me307t) in order to serve their own purposes. I call that evil.
Is it still a good deal? Yes. But by partnering like this, they've made it a worse deal than it otherwise would have been.
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El Daddy I know the sgs 2 can do usb stick via otg without root.
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That's probably a feature Samsung added.
Nexus devices don't have this functionality without root. (there is no way to mount it)
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They essentially neutered a good tablet (the Asus Me307t) in order to serve their own purposes. I call that evil.
Is it still a good deal? Yes. But by partnering like this, they've made it a worse deal than it otherwise would have been.
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Why do you say that google netured the Me307t? I think it more likely Asus agreeded to hold off on releasing it for a few months in return for getting manufacturing right for a Nexus tablet, now they have that and the ability to bring out their own badged device with a spec boost to help them sell it.
I refer you to Google's slogan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil
I for one take them at their word. Heck of a lot better than other companies I could name.
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Why do you say that google netured the Me307t? I think it more likely Asus agreeded to hold off on releasing it for a few months in return for getting manufacturing right for a Nexus tablet, now they have that and the ability to bring out their own badged device with a spec boost to help them sell it.
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First of all, the Nexus and me307t are the same.
As for Asus releasing an "upgraded version" or a version more true to the original, I don't find that plausible at all; economies of scale, and by then the demand for such a similar tablet would be largely sated anyway.
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For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
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The actual hardware is cheap, however the licensing is not, it would have been around $30 extra each port.
If the missing options are bothering you so much then don't buy it. Calling Google "Evil" because they made a business decision to cut cost and promote their cloud platform is a bit extreme. Now calling Apple "Evil" for using super glue to secure their Lithium-Ion battery to the frame/bezel of their MacBook pretty much making the battery irreplaceable due to the high risk of the battery being damages and spilling toxic material all over is a fair statement. If the N7 doesn't meet your requirement then wait for another 7 inch tab maybe Asus will release another version of the Me307t.
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IMHO, the answer is yes. Not only are they not including a memory card slot, but they are now intentionally removing the ability to attach external mass storage to the device. This feature has been built into android for a couple of versions now and the only possible reason is them forcing you to use their cloud, which is compounded by this being a wifi-only device.
Google, I'm really starting to be frustrated by your choices. Yes, this will be hacked to a solution, but it shouldn't have to be. I really REALLY really want to like the nexus 7 and buy one, but I just can't. Not in this handicapped format. That's just my 2 cent rant.
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Dude, take 2 seconds and read the forums. The tablet supports USB storage. Now do a favor to anyone else that reads this thread and update your original post; you're going to confuse a lot of people.
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4x the price (assumed but likely), different hardware category altogether.
No. Where did they intentionally limit mass storage? A Googler even said that it is easy for a dev to write an app for the Nexus 7 to enable USB OTG without rooting.
They had a vision for this tablet as a window into the Play Store and as a direct competitor to Amazon's Kindle. And that's what it is. Would I have liked a SD slot? Hell yes. Is it evil that Google has said they want to move away from micro sd storage? Hell no.
I know this post will enrage some people here, but it needs to be said.
Every Nexus phone since the N1 has been a FAILURE, pure and simple. The N1 set the standard at the time with class leading specs, and despite not being perfect, it still made the Android OEMs sit up and take notice, ushering in a new wave of amazing Android devices.
Since that time, from Google, we've had:
Nexus S - warmed over Galaxy S, with no killer features that was lacklustre at the time of release and quickly destroyed by the GS2
Galaxy Nexus - a phone that released with an old chipset which would not have been a problem in and of itself, if the camera and battery life hadn't been so utterly ****
And now, the Nexus 4.
This phone is so close to getting it right - decent processor, decent amount of RAM, good screen, camera is supposed to be good if the LG Optimus G is anything to go by. And yet Google eff it all up with 16GB max storage.
I've been wanting a Nexus ever since the N1, but each time Google puts a hurdle in the way of my buying it. The fact the N4 is such a stupendous price only makes this latest failure all the more annoying for me. Everyone knows the arguments for and against cloud storage, so I won't bore you by repeating them. But I feel like if I get a Nexus then I'm slowly but surely being herded into using the phone someone else's way rather than my own. Does that ring any bells for you?
The N4 looks SO good in every other aspect that I'm desperately trying to see if I can rearrange my affairs on the phone to try and make 16GB work. Get rid of the backups and ROMs hanging around. Trim down my apps, especially the large games. Jettison most of my music. Re-encode my TV and movies to a much smaller size/worse quality. I MAY be able to do it, but it's going to be a lot of extra hassle and constant moving things around. This device is supposed to make my life easier, not give me more work to do. I'm very disappointed.
Finally, I hope Google come out and say one way or another NOW whether or not they intend on releasing larger storage versions later. If I were to buy this 16GB phone and then they put out a 32/64GB in three months that would enrage me. If Google were to let us know that they intend on releasing something bigger later then I would happily wait for that. But I think they'll keep us in the dark, even if they are thinking about doing it - they know that if they were to release something else later then it would be going up against the GS4 and HTC J Butterfly, which is a fight the N4 wouldn't win in a lot of people's eyes.
That's my rant over for now - feel free to agree/disagree/savage me below!!
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I'm not even going to bother with this. Anyone else or should we just delete the thread?
I don't expect they will come out NOW and say that there is a 32GB version around the corner, it'll just put people off buying one one release. If it's frustrated you that much and you need the space then I'd just wait a few months. At worst they don't release one and you will probably be able to pick a 16GB up for slightly less than the release price.
Are we seriously allowing more such threads to find its way on this forum?
Why the hell do you have so much crap on your phone? That's ridiculous.
Google doesn't "fail."
You "fail."
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I know this post will enrage some people here, but it needs to be said.
Every Nexus phone since the N1 has been a FAILURE, pure and simple. The N1 set the standard at the time with class leading specs, and despite not being perfect, it still made the Android OEMs sit up and take notice, ushering in a new wave of amazing Android devices.
Since that time, from Google, we've had:
Nexus S - warmed over Galaxy S, with no killer features that was lacklustre at the time of release and quickly destroyed by the GS2
Galaxy Nexus - a phone that released with an old chipset which would not have been a problem in and of itself, if the camera and battery life hadn't been so utterly ****
And now, the Nexus 4.
This phone is so close to getting it right - decent processor, decent amount of RAM, good screen, camera is supposed to be good if the LG Optimus G is anything to go by. And yet Google eff it all up with 16GB max storage.
I've been wanting a Nexus ever since the N1, but each time Google puts a hurdle in the way of my buying it. The fact the N4 is such a stupendous price only makes this latest failure all the more annoying for me. Everyone knows the arguments for and against cloud storage, so I won't bore you by repeating them. But I feel like if I get a Nexus then I'm slowly but surely being herded into using the phone someone else's way rather than my own. Does that ring any bells for you?
The N4 looks SO good in every other aspect that I'm desperately trying to see if I can rearrange my affairs on the phone to try and make 16GB work. Get rid of the backups and ROMs hanging around. Trim down my apps, especially the large games. Jettison most of my music. Re-encode my TV and movies to a much smaller size/worse quality. I MAY be able to do it, but it's going to be a lot of extra hassle and constant moving things around. This device is supposed to make my life easier, not give me more work to do. I'm very disappointed.
Finally, I hope Google come out and say one way or another NOW whether or not they intend on releasing larger storage versions later. If I were to buy this 16GB phone and then they put out a 32/64GB in three months that would enrage me. If Google were to let us know that they intend on releasing something bigger later then I would happily wait for that. But I think they'll keep us in the dark, even if they are thinking about doing it - they know that if they were to release something else later then it would be going up against the GS4 and HTC J Butterfly, which is a fight the N4 wouldn't win in a lot of people's eyes.
That's my rant over for now - feel free to agree/disagree/savage me below!!
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Have you seen the price of this phone you silly boy...:silly: , compare the price and what you get compared to all other similar spec devices.
Google show every other manufacturer the way again..
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There are so many people saying the same thing that I'm hopeful it will get brought to Google's attention that loads of people WANT to buy this device but NEED more storage space.
Sorry, but if they had announced a 32GB option then this device would be being hailed by almost everyone as the best thing to happen to Android ever (what with the specs and aggressive pricing). Instead, it just has a large portion of its target market banging their heads against a wall...
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Didn't even read this! I'm too excited!
All I know is whatever you're complaining about is **** because the phone is £279!
If you don't like it, buy the inferior iPhone
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I'm going to have to agree with the OP. The same people that are praising this phone have been knocking Apple for such lacking features in the past including no expandable storage, no removable battery, no LTE. Amazing how cool it is that this device doesn't have these features...
I'm not going to go into the reasons why I would like more space as it's been covered over and over in other threads.
The point of this thread is to ask why Google seems unable to spec a phone that is ahead of the curve and also meets the needs of most of its target market, without jumping through hoops like USB-OTG for this, or buying an extended battery and putting up with a rubbish camera on the G-Nex.
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edit: Sigh, I'll be nice.
(short story is that "most" of the target does not need over 16GB of space, not even close. Speak for yourself.)
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I'm going to have to agree with the OP. The same people that are praising this phone have been knocking Apple for such lacking features in the past including no expandable storage, no removable battery, no LTE. Amazing how cool it is that this device doesn't have these features...
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How much is the Iphone £529, Samsung galaxy S3 £400, HTC one x + £425 ETC,
The Nexus 4 £279 Get a grip on reality and ssshhhusshh...
I will buy this phone.. 16GB is enough for me
Human nature. People can always pick things to complain about.
If the N4 has LTE and 64gb storage, they will be able to pick other **** to complain about keep whining.
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So you call the latest S4 Snapdragon Quadcore processor decent? Two gb's of ram is only decent? Please show me any phone which can muster those kind of specs, especially in that price range.
Also, the storage space of 16 gb's in my opionion should be enough for the average user. How large part of the main public do you really think store roms and nands on their devices?
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I will buy this phone.. 16GB is enough for me
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+1....:good:
Simple economics suggests that to make a device with such powerful specifications and make it available for under $300, you need to cut your costs somewhere. I would rather have 8 or 16GB of storage space than have a subpar screen, processor, or inadequate RAM. There is a specific reason why Google no longer wants a microSD card, and they have publicly stated why since 2010. Come to terms and accept it as a viable compromise, or just don't purchase the Nexus 4. The android ecosystem is large enough to make everyone happy.
kanariya said:
Human nature. People can always pick things to complain about.
If the N4 has LTE and 64gb storage, they will be able to pick other **** to complain about keep whining.
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If it had them people would complain about price size and battery life..
16GB won't work for you on the Nexus 4, but you seem to really like the Nexus One which had 512 MB, a good bit of which was taken by the OS.
Edit: Wikipedia says 190 MB for applications
Someone make a carbon back cover, that comes off easy (ok for me if nfc attenna gone)
Make it so you can remove and change batteries...
Put a micro SD card slot in the new back and wire it somehow ..
Wow that would be my dream phone...
Yeah, if only there was 32gb, kevlar back, and SAMOLED screen. This would be the ultimate phone for me....
I dont't understand why its so impossible for manufacturers to go 2/3rds the way every single time.
cheetah2k said:
Yeah, if only there was 32gb, kevlar back, and SAMOLED screen. This would be the ultimate phone for me....
I dont't understand why its so impossible for manufacturers to go 2/3rds the way every single time.
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Because if they went all the way you wouldn't buy another phone.
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cheetah2k said:
Yeah, if only there was 32gb, kevlar back, and SAMOLED screen. This would be the ultimate phone for me....
I dont't understand why its so impossible for manufacturers to go 2/3rds the way every single time.
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Super AMOLED are you kidding me
As far as 32gb do u remember how much this phone cost?
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blendobass said:
Someone make a carbon back cover, that comes off easy (ok for me if nfc attenna gone)
Make it so you can remove and change batteries...
Put a micro SD card slot in the new back and wire it somehow ..
Wow that would be my dream phone...
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Nice thought.. But it should be Locked.
Mods. Help him please
filthykid said:
Nice thought.. But it should be Locked.
Mods. Help him please
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Uhm why? Its general and its about this device. New threads really upset ppl it seems.
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Because that isn't going to happen. Ever.
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blendobass said:
Someone make a carbon back cover, that comes off easy (ok for me if nfc attenna gone)
Make it so you can remove and change batteries...
Put a micro SD card slot in the new back and wire it somehow ..
Wow that would be my dream phone...
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muyoso said:
Because that isn't going to happen. Ever.
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This.
I did not mean to discourage the guy but this won't happen. At least not this year. There have been plenty of discussions and articles relating to "what 'I' want in a phone". The company naturally doesn't care. So it's useless to make such discussion. However, andriod being open source, let all companies use the OS. Hence you got "plenty" of options to move onto. Why stick with a device you wish it "had" the features you desire?
I don't get the whole flash memory is expensive thing, it's like $1 a gig around here... I just got a 16 gig micro SD for $12 on sale. Are they making these phones so cheap that the few dollars it takes to put a little storage in makes them not afford it ?
I don't need so many apps, I don't care to much about total control, I am maybe the only one on here that is interested in Blackberry 10 phones, did you know part of the design is a BB should withstand a 20 ft drop and also a drop in a puddle ? If they happen to have a sd card, removable battery that lasts 3 days, and aren't lying about the browser being the fastest of any mobile, and add that it is higher end components I can see why people might switch to BB, i know you will laugh, but the joke is you might be able to sideload android on it and have a dual handset if you choose, or at least the apps..
I need a phone that can go threw hell and still work at the end of the day.
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This.
I did not mean to discourage the guy but this won't happen. At least not this year. There have been plenty of discussions and articles relating to "what 'I' want in a phone". The company naturally doesn't care. So it's useless to make such discussion. However, andriod being open source, let all companies use the OS. Hence you got "plenty" of options to move onto. Why stick with a device you wish it "had" the features you desire?
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It's not what "I" want in a phone.
The big joke is everyone wants the same in a phone.. they want the longest lasting, toughest build, most options for expandable memory, best antennas but not cancer, longest lasting, great screen, loudest speakers for music, the most connections possible, they want it all.. updateable phone possible for the dollars... its not math. They just like to minus stuff so you buy one per year.
Vote with your dollars.. that's all you can do, and while the arrogant fail sooner or later, there is always someone else providing what you need.
Many people in China for instance have dual sim card phones, I would like that, I can see how others wouldn't want it.
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It's not what "I" want in a phone.
The big joke is everyone wants the same in a phone.. they want the longest lasting, toughest build, most options for expandable memory, best antennas but not cancer, longest lasting, great screen, loudest speakers for music, the most connections possible, they want it all.. updateable phone possible for the dollars... its not math. They just like to minus stuff so you buy one per year.
Vote with your dollars.. that's all you can do, and while the arrogant fail sooner or later, there is always someone else providing what you need.
Many people in China for instance have dual sim card phones, I would like that, I can see how others wouldn't want it.
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There is no way you r wrong here by demanding all what one can ask for. But think for a second, if you are a phone manufacturer, you would want people to buy your phones every year.. probably twice or even thrice a year.. (yeah i have seen that happen). If a manufacturer gives all what is required in ONE phone... Boooom! who would ever switch?
Take Galaxy S2's example, there wasn't really any other such high-spec'd phone from known manufacturers in 2011. Hence if u see, many people who owned S2 at that time haven't switched to S3 or any other phone in 2012. Regardless of dual-core or quad-core, the phone:
a) is snappy
b) is slim
c) has enough internal space
d) got SD slot
e) got 8 MP camera which was still standard in 2012
f) got latest Adnriod OS
g) got latest OEM UI
h) standard RAM
i) large battery
What not?
Although they threw Quad-core but S2 still sold like a Boss. Hence they need to cut out corners and save them for their new device so that they force us to switch. They run a business and what matters the most to them is profit.
Samoled smh
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blendobass said:
It's not what "I" want in a phone.
The big joke is everyone wants the same in a phone.. they want the longest lasting, toughest build, most options for expandable memory, best antennas but not cancer, longest lasting, great screen, loudest speakers for music, the most connections possible, they want it all.. updateable phone possible for the dollars... its not math. They just like to minus stuff so you buy one per year.
Vote with your dollars.. that's all you can do, and while the arrogant fail sooner or later, there is always someone else providing what you need.
Many people in China for instance have dual sim card phones, I would like that, I can see how others wouldn't want it.
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Engineering isn't magic.At every point in designing there is a decision to make.
You can get the best antenna which will give you best coverage, but it requies more battery to send airwaves all the way.
Loudest speakers, again need a bigger driver and more battery power. For adding all these features you need a bigger battery, which means a thicker phone.
Toughest build, yes things are happening e.g Xperia Z. However when Samsung comes with a phone that can take some beating as it's plastic half the crowd goes boo.
When LG comes with N4 the other half does not like it as it breaks easily.
About dual SIM, I am not sure where you live but here in India you get dual sim android phones from Samsung. So it's not like few Chinese manufacturers are making it.
Samsung has brand called Duos, there is Galaxy S Duos, Galaxy Ace Duos etc all with dual sim.Maybe they aren't getting it to the place you live as they don't see too
many people going for it. e.g in US market where out of 4 major carriers only 2 are GSM and with incompatible 3G frequencies and carrier subsidies there is no market for
dual SIM.
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I recently bought a 32 gb Nexus after the price drop and already am troubled with storage. Looking for guidance and trying to decide if its worth returning and making the upgrade to the moto x pure since it has expandable storage. Was planning on using the nexus 6 for google fi. Could someone give me insight.
Insight on what exactly? I've been using the 32gb variant for 5 months now and have no trouble with storage. Not sure what could possibly take up so much storage besides music, movies, etc. To remedy this I would suggest using a cloud based storage to stream if you want to listen to music. There's also the option of using a small flash drive such as this one: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...1445546891&sr=8-2&keywords=kingston+micro+usb
Hopefully this was helpful.
Not enough? What exactly is the issue with storage. I've got a 32gb, with 2 ROMs, tibu backup, twrp backup and still have 15gb left
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It's just that after backing up all my apps contacts and only placing 10 gigs of music on my phone I'm finding myself with only 3 gigs to spare. Cloud storage is currently not an option since I'm planning on leaving a unlimited data plan to go to google Fi and in my current budget I have room for a 2 gig capacity. I have an hour long commute a day so music is a must haha.
Deryck thanks for the link on the usb android memory reader that thing looks tiny and awesome. I was just looking at insight on keeping the nexus 6 or switching the moto x pure. Do you own that one that you sent me?? I like the idea of usb memory reader I just was worried about it possibly damaging the usb port since I keep my phone in the cupholder of my car. Just curious if you worried about durability. Also I know that stickmount is root required and have no idea if rooting causes any harm to google fi.
BlueEyes that's sweet you have so much room! Before adding anything to my phone the phone is at 25 gb. haha
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It's just that after backing up all my apps contacts and only placing 10 gigs of music on my phone I'm finding myself with only 3 gigs to spare. Cloud storage is currently not an option since I'm planning on leaving a unlimited data plan to go to google Fi and in my current budget I have room for a 2 gig capacity. I have an hour long commute a day so music is a must haha.
Deryck thanks for the link on the usb android memory reader that thing looks tiny and awesome. I was just looking at insight on keeping the nexus 6 or switching the moto x pure. Do you own that one that you sent me?? I like the idea of usb memory reader I just was worried about it possibly damaging the usb port since I keep my phone in the cupholder of my car. Just curious if you worried about durability. Also I know that stickmount is root required and have no idea if rooting causes any harm to google fi.
Root will not mess with google fi.
The moto x pure is a nice phone but if you can find a way to work with the storage on the nexus then you'll save a few hundred dollars. I do not own that device I linked to but would not worry about durability, if it is just sitting in the cup holder there shouldn't be any damage done.
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I have about 15gb of space left, but I keep all my large sized games for my previous device. This as a daily driver is really about managing space. Do you need 10gb of music? I'd consider a separate device dedicated to just music if it were me.
Thanks for the great idea Asacado I'll just convert my old galaxy s4 as a pure music and entertainment powerhouse! This will work quite well! No need to give up wireless charging bigger screen and first to update over some silly moto x pure!! Thanks everyone for helping <3 the xda community.
blueyes said:
Not enough? What exactly is the issue with storage. I've got a 32gb, with 2 ROMs, tibu backup, twrp backup and still have 15gb left
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I wasn't trying to be rude, just tossing personal storage information. I had no idea what was going on, just storage issues or whatever the exact wording was.... And you go into attack mode with your attempt at witty sarcasm.. Congrats.. Remember who's the genius who started a whole post instead of a simple Google search.
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Doesn't have to be all or nothing, cheap 32gig or new motox... Is the 64gig nexus not $50 more anymore?
Moto x will never compare if you want customization and fast updates.
I had 13GB of music on my phone, well over 3-4 hours, and still had 5GB left after apps, pictures, and misc stuff, all on my 32GB Nexus.
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i learned to deal with 16gb when all nexus were offered that way, 32gb is extremely easy to deal with. but my completely unlimited tmobile account helps, as i learned to keep stuff like music in the cloud. right now i have 3 nandroid backups, 6gb of photos, and much more. and still gave spece left
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I wasn't trying to be rude, just tossing personal storage information. I had no idea what was going on, just storage issues or whatever the exact wording was.... And you go into attack mode with your attempt at witty sarcasm.. Congrats.. Remember who's the genius who started a whole post instead of a simple Google search.
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OMG :c I didn't mean to be sarcastic I was just really excited to know that all of it was a possibility.!! I haven't really flashed phones since an htc evo and I forgot how minimal phones can be. My last phone was the newest LG G2 and it had constant issues when I unlocked the bootloader so I had to return to bloatware. :'c For your backups are they total backups or just radios and the important things? Sorry again for sounding sarcastic total accident.
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OMG :c I didn't mean to be sarcastic I was just really excited to know that all of it was a possibility.!! I haven't really flashed phones since an htc evo and I forgot how minimal phones can be. My last phone was the newest LG G2 and it had constant issues when I unlocked the bootloader so I had to return to bloatware. :'c For your backups are they total backups or just radios and the important things? Sorry again for sounding sarcastic total accident.
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My twrp is full system, data and boot. I wipe caches prior to backing up to decrease size. As davlik can be a gig itself. I backup (tibu) most user apps and app data. Sorry for getting upset. I actually like helping others and can't stand those who belittle users with less knowledge. I do have several USB otgs , like these SanDisk Ultra 64GB USB 3.0 OTG Flash Drive With micro USB connector For Android Mobile Devices- SDDD2-064G-G46 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBGYGPG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_w8zkwbMJYQA1Z
Take care and enjoy!
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