Display Scaling (DPI) - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone!
I have a question about the default dpi for the Note 5.
The information I've read is that the default dpi for the Note 5 is 560dpi.
With the marshmallow update Samsung users can get to a setting and change the dpi to "condensed".
This setting scales down the dpi even more.
Does anyone know how much smaller the dpi gets with the "condensed" setting?
Here is a link for the setting I'm talking about:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-dpi-scaling-setting-680736/
Sorry! Mod maybe can move this thread to the help section for the Note 5?
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10cent said:
Hello everyone!
I have a question about the default dpi for the Note 5.
The information I've read is that the default dpi for the Note 5 is 560dpi.
With the marshmallow update Samsung users can get to a setting and change the dpi to "condensed".
This setting scales down the dpi even more.
Does anyone know how much smaller the dpi gets with the "condensed" setting?
Here is a link for the setting I'm talking about:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-dpi-scaling-setting-680736/
Sorry! Mod maybe can move this thread to the help section for the Note 5?
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it does work and have very mininal effect, may be you can say from 560dpi to 550dpi

You don't have to wait for this feature to come out, I already have the dpi set to 515 and I think this should've been the default for such a device, and you can do so, as long as you have root permission on your phone.

MagnumPOS said:
You don't have to wait for this feature to come out, I already have the dpi set to 515 and I think this should've been the default for such a device, and you can do so, as long as you have root permission on your phone.
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Is it possible to set the dpi without root?
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10cent said:
Is it possible to set the dpi without root?
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No, it's not possible.

10cent said:
Is it possible to set the dpi without root?
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I've change my dpi without root, however, it makes some of the stock Samsung apps not scale properly. Other than that, everything still functions.
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/

LGmarly said:
I've change my dpi without root, however, it makes some of the stock Samsung apps not scale properly. Other than that, everything still functions.
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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I currently have the S7 Edge and confirm the "Condensed" mode doesn't really do much. It helps some but my Note 5 is coming today or tomorrow (I don't like the Edge).
I have used the ADB method on my previous phones and know it does not need root. As stated before, it looks like the stock DPI is 560. On my LG G4, we used the 540 DPI, but its stock DPI was 640. 560 seems a little low for a Quad HD resolution. It seems the S7 Edge is 640. The Note 5 may have had a lower stock DPI because the S-Pen allowed for finer control than one with only touch input.
As far as Samsung Apps, stock apps typically are a little finicky. Usually you just need to find a DPI setting that is common. 510 may not play nice with Samsung Apps. 520 or other may be recognized and work better. I do not have a Note 5 (yet!) but typically you just have to find a good DPI setting. I think older Galaxy phones used 480, which would probably work better, but may make things too small.
With that said, anyone find a good working DPI that plays nice?
UPDATE
Got my Note 5 today and already can tell the lower DPI difference out of the box compared to the S7E. Feels good. Just for kicks I enabled the Condensed option and rebooted... but didn't even notice a difference. I don't think it actually alters the DPI, but just makes things a little smaller. On both the 7E and N5... I didn't notice any change with the status bar icons/time... only in a few apps.

I have opposite question:
I had note 4 and then a9, both with biggest UI Samsung is offering. I need it, because my eyes...
I know note 4 was 640, note 5 is 560 stock. Is in n5 640 dpi also possible to set?
it is clear that new grace ui is future, it is also present in some roms for n5. this is one of reasons I go with n5. Whnat is its stock dpi (and note 7, probably)? Is scaling possible in it naturaly, as any cm rom
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thanks a lot

DPI Scaling
Yes you can edit DPI setting without root. It's under developer options.

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320Dpi to 240Dpi

so my note has 320dpi native, what happens when i change it to 240dpi?
are there any advantages?Disadvantages?
This is being discussed on a separate thread, bit I think it is a good idea for a thread of its own.
I tried it, and the screen is much larger. That means most things in the screen are much smaller. It appears to make most launchers smoother as well.
I find it too small for my tired old eyes, but if your sight is good, I think it is a marvellous idea. It basically becomes a miniature tablet, and most apps seem to take advantage of that.
The stock phone dialer seems to be one of the very few TW apps that does not resize. TW also does not allow more cols and rows (IIRC), so it would be best to use another launcher, and perhaps Go Dialer.
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Actually the thread is here, so this is a duplicate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487309
you see more stuff in most apps for example in settings you see more options at once. most launchers do ok as long as you adjust rows columns although sometimes widgets look weird
i run darkyrom at 240dpi only. nothing is to small for me to read and everything but s-memo seems to work perfectly *you get some weird lines, just color over it with a white and go on with drawing .
i run adw ex launcher with 10x10 homescreen layout and 7 icon dockbar.
It´s so EASY!
It´s easy: Everbody who is interested in this, should definitly give it a shot. Get DPI Changer from the market for free and try it out yourself. There es nothing (again: nothing!) that will happen to your phone, you are always able to go back to 320 again without ANY issues.
The only one thing everbody has to do before is to install another launcher (I can fully recommend Go Launcher (ex), IMAO it´s the smoothest for our Gnote) just for that one reason: Damned TouchWiz doesn´t scale correctly.
Try it out folks, deside for yourself, it´s worth it!
just modify the build.prop density to 240. The default 320 is too big and it pains the eye after many usages!
there are a couple ways of doing it
the 2 above and also an app called "Rom Toolbox" which i recommend more then the others because it also gives you alot more options for different things other then DPI aswell.
Can someone upload 2 screenshots with both resolution please?
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The biggest advantage is that you can see more in the screen. Especially useful with context menu, browser, various apps and so on.
First 240 Dpi images
Images for 320
Thanks drgopoos... 240 looks more like a phone, and 320 looks more like a mini tablet... One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
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i thought that 240 dpi is kinda crap but now changed from 320 to 240dpi and im enjoying it, looks so cool and more comfortable ;D
big samm said:
One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
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It means that the screen has less physical pixels per inch, so it can be same resolution as a smaller screen that has bigger ppi.
Which means that even tho u have less ppi on the gnote, you still have more resolution than the other phones cause of the size of the gnote's screen.
Ppl say dpi for screens but the correct term is indeed ppi. dpi is for printers.
Does the CriskeloRom can also change to DPI or not ? need depend on the launcher or not ?

What is the best DPI for our Note

Hi folks!
I was just wondering what is the best DPI settings for our note without hindering usability.
I would like a general opinion.
320dpi fanboys not welcome!
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i run gingerbread at 240dpi, and ICS alpha at 213dpi
seem to be the best ones for each android version
160dpi on GB and well on ICS makes everything a little bit to small
240dpi is perfect due to 90% of phones being stock at this.
*s-memo does mess up on any dpi not 320dpi so remember that
213dpi on ICS brings out full tablet mode but keeps the screen readable
Where can i find info on this ics alpha? id love to give it a shot.
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Yeah it's a Galaxy Note, are you jealous?
deymayor said:
Where can i find info on this ics alpha? id love to give it a shot.
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Here we go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423795
And keep this in mind:
KNOWN BUGS
Bluetooth is unstable. Don't rely on it just yet
Battery Usage doesn't work.
MTP Mode does not work. You need to push/pull files via adb
Camera doesn't work. Will be that way until we can get our hands on a ICS
leak for the Galaxy Note
Best regards
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I've set mine to 240, and loving it. I think it's the best setup for usability and aesthetic for the Gnote. I don't think I would ever go back to the default DPI after switching it to 240.
240
From my experience 240 is by far the best. It is too small for me, but I have poor eyesight (one of the main reasons for buying the Note). For most people it should be fairly easy to adjust too, I would think.
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
cswithxda said:
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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LCD Density Modder
240 dpi the best
cswithxda said:
I'm sorry, how do you change DPI?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.birdapi.android.dpi
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Thanks guys. Another Root App Looks like I'll need to get into the water now.
BTW, what is the stock DPI? 284?
cswithxda said:
Thanks guys. Another Root App Looks like I'll need to get into the water now.
BTW, what is the stock DPI? 284?
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320, btw why u are so scared to root your phone?
Yeah 240dpi is pretty awesome so much screen to work with. Only problem is my eyes are kinda bad but I still love it regardless.
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cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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320, btw why u are so scared to root your phone?
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Because this device is kinda expensive for a Android new comer to try the water
I need to get familiar with all different kinds of commands more...
I wasn't really scared to root the phone as I may have sounded either
cswithxda said:
Because this device is kinda expensive for a Android new comer to try the water
I need to get familiar with all different kinds of commands more...
I wasn't really scared to root the phone as I may have sounded either
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There are so many advantages to rooting. Imagine running your very own Windows PC without admin rights? That what carriers, and even vendors like Samsung, are trying to force on us. It's BS.
Elusivo said:
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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And the point is?
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The point is that using a correct term to name something is sometimes not bad at all
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Even though lowering the "virtual density" to 240 will allow for more real estate on the display, I am not totally sure that the need to consult an ophalmologist won't increase likewise after that.
It is looking good when you take a snapshot though.
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And the point is?
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It was just a comment, maybe not the best place for it but the point is just to try and clear up some of the confusion that sometimes happens when ppl dive into the actual DPI meaning.
Elusivo said:
cmon guys... DPI? that's for printers...
The correct term for screens is PPI, and, it's a physical characteristic of the screen, it's impossible to change a screen's PPI after it's manufactured.
The 320dpi, 240dpi thing that you talk about and which android refers to as lcd density internally is like a virtual pitch, the spacing between each pixel displayed on the screen.
That's why when you decrease the spacing between each pixel from 320 to 240 for example you get much more spacing on the screen cause more pixels fits on the screen.
So a more correct term than DPI or PPI is PITCH. (which isn't also 100% correct cause you can't also change pitch of a screen as it is fixed, but it's like a virtual pitch setting that we can change to "fool" the OS into displaying things as if the phone had a different screen installed)
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Nah, i think we'll continue with the term "DPI" (Dots Per Inch) But you're right, there's a huge difference between DPI and PPI, but that's not the case since no one has used the term "PPI" here.

Samsung - please revisit your default lcd_density in future phones

I've come to expect the default lcd_density of the Note line to be set far too high based on the resolution of the screen. I had assumed it was b/c of Google's design constraints that all phones of certain resolutions must have the same density to allow apps and such to render identically, though the physical size of objects would be smaller or larger depending of the size of the screen.
This was why the 1080p S4, S5, and Note 3 all running a lcd_density of 480 would show the same amount of content on the screen. Everything would just be larger on the Note 3 as it was a 5.7" screen. The Note 4 with a 1440p screen and lcd_density of 640 ends up basically having the same amount of content on screen as those phones as well (same as the LG G3). So rooting and changing this in build.prop has become a standard task for many of us.
However the Nexus 6 has a non-traditional lcd_density of 560 while having a 6" 1440p screen. Google obviously realized that using 640 would result in even more cartoonishly large icons and such on a 6" screen. However they went outside their own standardized guidelines in doing so, which should empower OEMs to do the same.
1. 560 is a good compromise IMO for most users on a 1440p screen that is 5.5" or larger. Personally I prefer 480 on the Note 4, but I understand that might make objects too small for many users. 560 on the Note 4 I think is the right stock lcd_density to balance out amount of content on the screen and size of the content.
2. The Note 3 should probably be 420 stock (vs 480), though the S4/S5 are probably fine at 480 due to their smaller screens.
Samsung - as the phablet leader, please balance out screen resolution and lcd_density on your larger screens to provide the best user experience. Before the Nexus 6, only Apple took special care in doing so when moving to larger phones. The 6+ is a good example where they didn't just make everything bigger, but also allowed more content to be viewed on the screen.
are you sure nexus 6 coming with 560 dpi
How low can we go without samsungs apps looking bad? Havent root yet but as soon as i do that was the firts thing i was planing on doing
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That was one of the first things I changed when I rooted mine, 480 is a real decent setting to use.
bala_gamer said:
are you sure nexus 6 coming with 560 dpi
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Yep - besides folks in the Nexus 6 xda forum changing their dpi confirming this, you can also see it here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/10/getting-your-apps-ready-for-nexus-6-and.html
Google did the smart thing for the Nexus 6. Now hopefully Samsung will start doing so.
pikul said:
How low can we go without samsungs apps looking bad? Havent root yet but as soon as i do that was the firts thing i was planing on doing
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Most people who change their dpi use App Settings xposed mod to set the Samsung stock apps to 640. However this is b/c Samsung seems to hard code their designs. When I changed the lcd_density on the OnePlus One, all the stock apps just adjusted seamlessly, the same way Chrome or other apps do. Dialer, camera, etc all adjusted dynamically.
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Yep - besides folks in the Nexus 6 xda forum changing their dpi confirming this, you can also see it here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/10/getting-your-apps-ready-for-nexus-6-and.html
Google did the smart thing for the Nexus 6. Now hopefully Samsung will start doing so.
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wow.. google released nexus 6 with 560 dpi !!! wth.. atleast all their apps are multi dpi capable.
Samsung stock apps like dialer, camera, launcher and a few go crazy mostly because samsung dont have similar code across all their devices, hope that changes with lollipop release. From what i have noted on all the lollipop videos released so far the UI is far more consistent across s4, n3 ,s5 and note 4., this might open up proper scaling of stock apps for note 4 users @ 480 DPI
Yes, same complaint ! It is unthinkable to have the same working area as S4 , then why did we get a larger phone? To have a zoomed interface because Samsung realised that we don't have good eyes:silly: Now in all seriousness, why most and greatest Rom developers (8 out of 10) don't build a Multi-DPI Rom? Is it because of compatibility-performance issues? The interest on MULTI-DPI should have been exactly the opposite, it makes me think that most people get a Note phone only for Multimedia purposes.
Can only agree, using the Note 4 with its blown up interface feels like a toy after using the iPhone 6 plus with optimised apps and interface that uses the big screen better. And then they say that the plus is just a big iPhone. But it uses its big screen much better than my note in most of cases. Perhaps somewhere the notes big screen is used better but I can't remember seeing it using my note

Stock lcd_density of Note 5?

Hey - can any early receiver check the build.prop and let us know what the stock lcd_density is set to? I'm expecting 640 but it would be a nice surprise if Samsung followed the Nexus 6 and set it to 560 stock to increase the information density.
At 560 I may not need root, at 640 I will.
TIA
From some pictures I have seen, It looks like the lcd-density is lower this time! I can't confirm though
Update:
It is 560 Dpi according to arter97. At last, Samsung opened their eyes:laugh:
Source
Thanks man - great news
My build.prop contains 2 lines "ro.sf.lcd_density". One with 560 and one with 480. So I'm confused, but definitely - not 640, and that is great news indeed.

Mi MAX 2 PPI

Hi ALL.
One question. As Im LG G4 user with much higher PPI (538), does MI MAX 2 worse PPI (342) will be visible for me and possibly how much?
Can someone show screen photo or any comparision with phone with higher PPI please?
PS Sorry for my bad english.
Thank You
This is something that can only be properly compared irl, not in photos or videos. My brother has an LG G4 and I have a Max 2 and what I can tell you is that the difference is of course noticeable, the G4 has a great screen. Even the G3's screen is noticeably better. However, this isn't to say the Max 2's screen is bad. I think it comes down to how important that is to you. For me it doesn't matter, but I never used a phone with a better screen than the Max 2 for long periods of time so I never got so used to it the point I wouldn't go back.
Mi Max 2 bought PPI is very OK.
Waiting for magic 72H to unlock bootloader, root and change DPI to smth lower.
Thank U
mauecky said:
Mi Max 2 bought PPI is very OK.
Waiting for magic 72H to unlock bootloader, root and change DPI to smth lower.
Thank U
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welcome to the Mi Max 2 family bro, enjoy your new device, make yourself comfortable and have a cookie or two
No need to root or unlock bootloader my dear... Dpi can be changed with ADB
lrcquest said:
No need to root or unlock bootloader my dear... Dpi can be changed with ADB
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^^this.
Only thing I didn't like about my max 2 and it was an easy fix dropping the DPI to 360. Now it behaves like a 6.4" screen should
The best ppi for me max is 374 because you don't have banners in your browser it's possible navigate without banner, super.
Droping dpi lower then 380 - icons are blank hmm ? Solution? Changed launcher but notifications icons also are blank

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