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Hello Guys,
I am new to android and it's very interesting for me to go through the discussions of rooting and other stuff. Brilliant!!
I just bought wildfire recently and hmm.. resolution is disappointment for me. I despirately need two things:
1. Hack for HVGA resolution.
2. Live wall paper.
It seems live wall paper is possible from my understandin after reading threads though. Is it possible and please advice me on this regard.
Thank you in advance.
Dude, no hack can push things over hardware limits... I m no android developer, but if you need higher resolution look for another android deveice..
vijaykr1985 said:
Hello Guys,
I am new to android and it's very interesting for me to go through the discussions of rooting and other stuff. Brilliant!!
I just bought wildfire recently and hmm.. resolution is disappointment for me. I despirately need two things:
1. Hack for HVGA resolution.
2. Live wall paper.
It seems live wall paper is possible from my understandin after reading threads though. Is it possible and please advice me on this regard.
Thank you in advance.
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check lcd density thread in themes and apps
I already checked lcd density app, but seems doesnt work perfectly.
I duno about you... but i think it will be really really hard for software to alter the hardware of a phone. hvga on the wildfire would be awesome... but not any sooner
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I already checked lcd density app, but seems doesnt work perfectly.
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not the app, i mean check the thread! you cant use the app u must change manually in system/build.prop
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i am using LCD Density for root. it works fine for me, on wildpuzzle v8
resolution reverts back to standard after reboot but it takes a few seconds to change again. and i don't reboot that often.
LCD Density changer never worked for me. But LCD Density for root (different program similar name) works fine and allows me to set my density to 100 (where 120 is default density) this certainly changes the resolution, whether it changes it to HVGA i dont know, but it is deffo higher resolution. with launcher pro set to 5 rows and 5 columns i have a lovely looking phone now. just waiting for our super fantastic devs to look into an overclock kernel and i will be set
I think you need to set density to 76 (not sure) to reach HVGA resolution and your screen looks fine though. Thanks for your information.
vijaykr1985 said:
I think you need to set density to 76 (not sure) to reach HVGA resolution and your screen looks fine though. Thanks for your information.
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ahh, i am well off then lol. with LCDDensity for root the lowest you can go is 100.
but like one poster above me said, i spose if you want a HVGA screen you pay the premium price for it. i am happy with my wildfire, i have to be, my wife won't let me buy a new phone for another year! i go through to many apparently. we will see though, if i buy a desire she may not know the difference
Not Possible IMO , Though I have also Worked with LCD Density Changer (Beansoft) Wildfire Looks Good With Density 100 / 110 , Any lower than than and the menu text and the Notification Icons looks Crappy.
We would need Hardware Upgrades (Better LCD) In Order to Increase it :-/ I So wish we had Better screen , Resolution is the worst Issue on Wildfire.
I just tried lcd density changer, 110 setting did nothing and 100 setting screws up the lockscreen slider and makes it laggy.
^^ Do it by small Changes , The Stock Lockscreen looks good at 100/110 , The HTC One Screws up.
I hate the Icons at Notification Bar , at 100 , too Small
true, it was the htc one that screwed, im looking at a mod to disable lock screen altogether though. kept it at 120 and did the 5 columns and 5 rows launcher pro mod.
You guys do realise that it's impossible to get HVGA on a QVGA screen?
LCD Density changer gives effect of Hi-Res Screen, but it makes a lot of apps look worse (Paper Toss is a prime example of this)
All it does is rescale some UI elements, not changes any hardware
LOL , Yeah We know LCD Density is just about "Feel-Good-Factor"
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i am using LCD Density for root. it works fine for me, on wildpuzzle v8
resolution reverts back to standard after reboot but it takes a few seconds to change again. and i don't reboot that often.
LCD Density changer never worked for me. But LCD Density for root (different program similar name) works fine and allows me to set my density to 100 (where 120 is default density) this certainly changes the resolution, whether it changes it to HVGA i dont know, but it is deffo higher resolution. with launcher pro set to 5 rows and 5 columns i have a lovely looking phone now. just waiting for our super fantastic devs to look into an overclock kernel and i will be set
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hi
Thanks for that
It works perfect, 110 is the best for me looks ok beter then 120
HCDR.Jacob said:
You guys do realise that it's impossible to get HVGA on a QVGA screen?
LCD Density changer gives effect of Hi-Res Screen, but it makes a lot of apps look worse (Paper Toss is a prime example of this)
All it does is rescale some UI elements, not changes any hardware
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i seeeeeee. i read the full disclaimer now on the lcddensity app and it does say it 'virtually' changes resolution or something similar. it was something new to try anyway, and it looks good i have had the phone for 3 weeks now and i dont think there has been a single night where i havent had it in my hands flashing roms and trying apps.
Oh well. So no other way to make resolution high?
Resolution Can't Increased Without a hardware Upgrade , So No Can Do.
110 seems to look best on the wildfire ... at least for me
so my note has 320dpi native, what happens when i change it to 240dpi?
are there any advantages?Disadvantages?
This is being discussed on a separate thread, bit I think it is a good idea for a thread of its own.
I tried it, and the screen is much larger. That means most things in the screen are much smaller. It appears to make most launchers smoother as well.
I find it too small for my tired old eyes, but if your sight is good, I think it is a marvellous idea. It basically becomes a miniature tablet, and most apps seem to take advantage of that.
The stock phone dialer seems to be one of the very few TW apps that does not resize. TW also does not allow more cols and rows (IIRC), so it would be best to use another launcher, and perhaps Go Dialer.
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Actually the thread is here, so this is a duplicate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487309
you see more stuff in most apps for example in settings you see more options at once. most launchers do ok as long as you adjust rows columns although sometimes widgets look weird
i run darkyrom at 240dpi only. nothing is to small for me to read and everything but s-memo seems to work perfectly *you get some weird lines, just color over it with a white and go on with drawing .
i run adw ex launcher with 10x10 homescreen layout and 7 icon dockbar.
It´s so EASY!
It´s easy: Everbody who is interested in this, should definitly give it a shot. Get DPI Changer from the market for free and try it out yourself. There es nothing (again: nothing!) that will happen to your phone, you are always able to go back to 320 again without ANY issues.
The only one thing everbody has to do before is to install another launcher (I can fully recommend Go Launcher (ex), IMAO it´s the smoothest for our Gnote) just for that one reason: Damned TouchWiz doesn´t scale correctly.
Try it out folks, deside for yourself, it´s worth it!
just modify the build.prop density to 240. The default 320 is too big and it pains the eye after many usages!
there are a couple ways of doing it
the 2 above and also an app called "Rom Toolbox" which i recommend more then the others because it also gives you alot more options for different things other then DPI aswell.
Can someone upload 2 screenshots with both resolution please?
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The biggest advantage is that you can see more in the screen. Especially useful with context menu, browser, various apps and so on.
First 240 Dpi images
Images for 320
Thanks drgopoos... 240 looks more like a phone, and 320 looks more like a mini tablet... One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
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i thought that 240 dpi is kinda crap but now changed from 320 to 240dpi and im enjoying it, looks so cool and more comfortable ;D
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One question, does dpi is the same as ppi?
I see my iPhone 4svis 330 ppi the Gnex is 320ppi and the note is 236... does that mean the resolution is lower?
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It means that the screen has less physical pixels per inch, so it can be same resolution as a smaller screen that has bigger ppi.
Which means that even tho u have less ppi on the gnote, you still have more resolution than the other phones cause of the size of the gnote's screen.
Ppl say dpi for screens but the correct term is indeed ppi. dpi is for printers.
Does the CriskeloRom can also change to DPI or not ? need depend on the launcher or not ?
I've come to expect the default lcd_density of the Note line to be set far too high based on the resolution of the screen. I had assumed it was b/c of Google's design constraints that all phones of certain resolutions must have the same density to allow apps and such to render identically, though the physical size of objects would be smaller or larger depending of the size of the screen.
This was why the 1080p S4, S5, and Note 3 all running a lcd_density of 480 would show the same amount of content on the screen. Everything would just be larger on the Note 3 as it was a 5.7" screen. The Note 4 with a 1440p screen and lcd_density of 640 ends up basically having the same amount of content on screen as those phones as well (same as the LG G3). So rooting and changing this in build.prop has become a standard task for many of us.
However the Nexus 6 has a non-traditional lcd_density of 560 while having a 6" 1440p screen. Google obviously realized that using 640 would result in even more cartoonishly large icons and such on a 6" screen. However they went outside their own standardized guidelines in doing so, which should empower OEMs to do the same.
1. 560 is a good compromise IMO for most users on a 1440p screen that is 5.5" or larger. Personally I prefer 480 on the Note 4, but I understand that might make objects too small for many users. 560 on the Note 4 I think is the right stock lcd_density to balance out amount of content on the screen and size of the content.
2. The Note 3 should probably be 420 stock (vs 480), though the S4/S5 are probably fine at 480 due to their smaller screens.
Samsung - as the phablet leader, please balance out screen resolution and lcd_density on your larger screens to provide the best user experience. Before the Nexus 6, only Apple took special care in doing so when moving to larger phones. The 6+ is a good example where they didn't just make everything bigger, but also allowed more content to be viewed on the screen.
are you sure nexus 6 coming with 560 dpi
How low can we go without samsungs apps looking bad? Havent root yet but as soon as i do that was the firts thing i was planing on doing
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That was one of the first things I changed when I rooted mine, 480 is a real decent setting to use.
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are you sure nexus 6 coming with 560 dpi
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Yep - besides folks in the Nexus 6 xda forum changing their dpi confirming this, you can also see it here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/10/getting-your-apps-ready-for-nexus-6-and.html
Google did the smart thing for the Nexus 6. Now hopefully Samsung will start doing so.
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How low can we go without samsungs apps looking bad? Havent root yet but as soon as i do that was the firts thing i was planing on doing
Sent from my Galaxy NOTE 4
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Most people who change their dpi use App Settings xposed mod to set the Samsung stock apps to 640. However this is b/c Samsung seems to hard code their designs. When I changed the lcd_density on the OnePlus One, all the stock apps just adjusted seamlessly, the same way Chrome or other apps do. Dialer, camera, etc all adjusted dynamically.
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Yep - besides folks in the Nexus 6 xda forum changing their dpi confirming this, you can also see it here:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2014/10/getting-your-apps-ready-for-nexus-6-and.html
Google did the smart thing for the Nexus 6. Now hopefully Samsung will start doing so.
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wow.. google released nexus 6 with 560 dpi !!! wth.. atleast all their apps are multi dpi capable.
Samsung stock apps like dialer, camera, launcher and a few go crazy mostly because samsung dont have similar code across all their devices, hope that changes with lollipop release. From what i have noted on all the lollipop videos released so far the UI is far more consistent across s4, n3 ,s5 and note 4., this might open up proper scaling of stock apps for note 4 users @ 480 DPI
Yes, same complaint ! It is unthinkable to have the same working area as S4 , then why did we get a larger phone? To have a zoomed interface because Samsung realised that we don't have good eyes:silly: Now in all seriousness, why most and greatest Rom developers (8 out of 10) don't build a Multi-DPI Rom? Is it because of compatibility-performance issues? The interest on MULTI-DPI should have been exactly the opposite, it makes me think that most people get a Note phone only for Multimedia purposes.
Can only agree, using the Note 4 with its blown up interface feels like a toy after using the iPhone 6 plus with optimised apps and interface that uses the big screen better. And then they say that the plus is just a big iPhone. But it uses its big screen much better than my note in most of cases. Perhaps somewhere the notes big screen is used better but I can't remember seeing it using my note
I'm not so sure I get the whole DPI subject, I thought DPI referred only to the "printed resolution" in other words , that DPI is the same as PPI but you talk about DPI from printed things and PPi for digital things, am I wrong?
The nexus 6 comes with a stock value of 480 DPI and if I want to have more space available when I'm using chrome, so I can fit more text on the screen I should lower it, but by doing it am I reducing the quality also?
I'd appreciate your input on this :laugh:
Chad_Petree said:
I'm not so sure I get the whole DPI subject, I thought DPI referred only to the "printed resolution" in other words , that DPI is the same as PPI but you talk about DPI from printed things and PPi for digital things, am I wrong?
The nexus 6 comes with a stock value of 480 DPI and if I want to have more space available when I'm using chrome, so I can fit more text on the screen I should lower it, but by doing it am I reducing the quality also?
I'd appreciate your input on this [emoji23]
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DPI refers to androids scaling where as PPI is the physical amount of pixels per inch on the screen so a lower DPI makes things be smaller on screen (which is what you want) where as higher makes text and things larger.
Also, stock DPI on the nexus 6 is 560 where as the PPI of the screen is 493. Personally, I like 520 DPI as its smaller than stock, but not so small that you can't see anything
ajhman said:
DPI refers to androids scaling where as PPI is the physical amount of pixels per inch on the screen so a lower DPI makes things be smaller on screen (which is what you want) where as higher makes text and things larger.
Also, stock DPI on the nexus 6 is 560 where as the PPI of the screen is 493. Personally, I like 520 DPI as its smaller than stock, but not so small that you can't see anything
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Thanks for taking the time to explain [emoji57] , and every android uses 560 dpi as default ? What do manufacturers take into account when choosing the DPI, only the screen size ?
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Chad_Petree said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain [emoji57] , and every android uses 560 dpi as default ? What do manufacturers take into account when choosing the DPI, only the screen size ?
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Whatever experience they want.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain [emoji57] , and every android uses 560 dpi as default ? What do manufacturers take into account when choosing the DPI, only the screen size ?
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Nah, just the n6 uses 560 that I know of. It all comes down to personal preference on what you like.
When a manufacturer chooses a DPI they look at no only screen size, but resolution of the display because as PPI goes up DPI needs to as well
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as PPI goes up DPI needs to as well
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Not necessarily. Generally yes - but with big screens at higher resolutions, they may want to opt for more screen real estate than maintaining a proportional ratio to smaller screened devices.
Chad_Petree said:
I'm not so sure I get the whole DPI subject, I thought DPI referred only to the "printed resolution" in other words , that DPI is the same as PPI but you talk about DPI from printed things and PPi for digital things, am I wrong?
The nexus 6 comes with a stock value of 480 DPI and if I want to have more space available when I'm using chrome, so I can fit more text on the screen I should lower it, but by doing it am I reducing the quality also?
I'd appreciate your input on this :laugh:
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There is a lot of confusion and misinformation about this subject.
Fact is, that PPI and DPI are actually synonymous.
One pixel is one dot. Hence the number of pixels per inch is the same as the number of dots per inch.
The "standard" DPI/PPI resolution for Android is 160. It is so because the first Android device, the HTC Dream, was physically 160 DPI.
Now the way it works in Android, is that the SOFTWARE needs to be made AWARE of the physical resolution of the screen. This is why the build.prop file often has a parameter "ro.sf.lcd_density". This is the DPI/PPI value for the physical screen.
The kernel tells it what the overall resolution is, in the case of Nexus 6, 2560x1440. Knowing the DENSITY, and knowing the overall resolution, you can calculate the physical size of the display.
The reason why this information is necessary, is to be able to SCALE things -- text, UI elements like buttons, images -- such that they take a proper physical space on the screen. I.e., if you have a font size that displays with a character height of 1/3 inch on an HTC DREAM, then using the same number of PIXELS on a Nexus 6 would result in a character height of 1/10 inch, i.e., too small to actually read.
So instead, the fonts/UI elements/etc. are sized using something referred to as a DiP -- Density independent Pixel. This is, basically, 160 dpi. So what it does, is it SCALES everything into NATIVE pixels by the ratio between ro.sf.lcd_density and 160, so that things look the same size on the screen, and you are actually able to read it.
Now, it is technically incorrect to screw with the value of ro.sf.lcd_density, since this will convince Android that the screen is larger or smaller than it actually is. However, some people like a tighter or looser UI, so it is there in case they want to tweak it... within reason.
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Now, it is technically incorrect to screw with the value of ro.sf.lcd_density, since this will convince Android that the screen is larger or smaller than it actually is. However, some people like a tighter or looser UI, so it is there in case they want to tweak it... within reason.
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So basically a device like the nexus which has a 1080p 5" screen has a 445 PPI and a 445 DPI and the nexus 6 has a 5.96" display which is 493 PPI and 493 DPI, I just get confused for example because on a macbook pro retina you get a resolution which is greater than QHD but still get a "working space" of a 720p display and I assume it has to do with the DPI
Hello everyone!
I have a question about the default dpi for the Note 5.
The information I've read is that the default dpi for the Note 5 is 560dpi.
With the marshmallow update Samsung users can get to a setting and change the dpi to "condensed".
This setting scales down the dpi even more.
Does anyone know how much smaller the dpi gets with the "condensed" setting?
Here is a link for the setting I'm talking about:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-dpi-scaling-setting-680736/
Sorry! Mod maybe can move this thread to the help section for the Note 5?
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10cent said:
Hello everyone!
I have a question about the default dpi for the Note 5.
The information I've read is that the default dpi for the Note 5 is 560dpi.
With the marshmallow update Samsung users can get to a setting and change the dpi to "condensed".
This setting scales down the dpi even more.
Does anyone know how much smaller the dpi gets with the "condensed" setting?
Here is a link for the setting I'm talking about:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-dpi-scaling-setting-680736/
Sorry! Mod maybe can move this thread to the help section for the Note 5?
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it does work and have very mininal effect, may be you can say from 560dpi to 550dpi
You don't have to wait for this feature to come out, I already have the dpi set to 515 and I think this should've been the default for such a device, and you can do so, as long as you have root permission on your phone.
MagnumPOS said:
You don't have to wait for this feature to come out, I already have the dpi set to 515 and I think this should've been the default for such a device, and you can do so, as long as you have root permission on your phone.
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Is it possible to set the dpi without root?
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10cent said:
Is it possible to set the dpi without root?
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No, it's not possible.
10cent said:
Is it possible to set the dpi without root?
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I've change my dpi without root, however, it makes some of the stock Samsung apps not scale properly. Other than that, everything still functions.
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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I've change my dpi without root, however, it makes some of the stock Samsung apps not scale properly. Other than that, everything still functions.
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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I currently have the S7 Edge and confirm the "Condensed" mode doesn't really do much. It helps some but my Note 5 is coming today or tomorrow (I don't like the Edge).
I have used the ADB method on my previous phones and know it does not need root. As stated before, it looks like the stock DPI is 560. On my LG G4, we used the 540 DPI, but its stock DPI was 640. 560 seems a little low for a Quad HD resolution. It seems the S7 Edge is 640. The Note 5 may have had a lower stock DPI because the S-Pen allowed for finer control than one with only touch input.
As far as Samsung Apps, stock apps typically are a little finicky. Usually you just need to find a DPI setting that is common. 510 may not play nice with Samsung Apps. 520 or other may be recognized and work better. I do not have a Note 5 (yet!) but typically you just have to find a good DPI setting. I think older Galaxy phones used 480, which would probably work better, but may make things too small.
With that said, anyone find a good working DPI that plays nice?
UPDATE
Got my Note 5 today and already can tell the lower DPI difference out of the box compared to the S7E. Feels good. Just for kicks I enabled the Condensed option and rebooted... but didn't even notice a difference. I don't think it actually alters the DPI, but just makes things a little smaller. On both the 7E and N5... I didn't notice any change with the status bar icons/time... only in a few apps.
I have opposite question:
I had note 4 and then a9, both with biggest UI Samsung is offering. I need it, because my eyes...
I know note 4 was 640, note 5 is 560 stock. Is in n5 640 dpi also possible to set?
it is clear that new grace ui is future, it is also present in some roms for n5. this is one of reasons I go with n5. Whnat is its stock dpi (and note 7, probably)? Is scaling possible in it naturaly, as any cm rom
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thanks a lot
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Yes you can edit DPI setting without root. It's under developer options.