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First real review is now online, use google translates to translate the page. Seems okay, the camera is maybe a notch better than the S5's in daylight, definitely in the dark its much better over the S5. Not sure about the OIS, I would like to see the LG G3 4k Vs the Note 4's, I have a feeling the 2nd gen OIS on the G3 will be slightly better than Samsung's first OIS camera.
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http://mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml
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The Note 4 camera is much better than on the S5 - it's very obvious when you look at the high-res photos, but even just the bloom on the S5 in the night shots is gone with the Note 4.
OIS looks amazing too!
What I thought was really interesting is the side-by-side comparision of the screen on the Note 3 vs the Note 4 - that quad HD is noticeably better in the closeup.
I can't see any difference in the day shots but it is definitely better in low light. I really want to see how the note compares to the iphone 6 and 6 plus. It is also nice to see the note kicking the iphone's butt on the geekbench scores.
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I can't see any difference in the day shots but it is definitely better in low light. I really want to see how the note compares to the iphone 6 and 6 plus. It is also nice to see the note kicking the iphone's butt on the geekbench scores.
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The S5 has very "muddy"details and the Note 4 looks much cleaner with more detail. Look at 100% and you'llyou'll see it no problem.
The review also mentions that there is no delay in the night shot on the Note 4 when it has to apply the noise reduction pass. I'd imagine the OIS helps the Note 4 too.
If the Note 4 is as nice as the Samsung Alpha it will be well worth the wait
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First real review is now online, use google translates to translate the page. Seems okay, the camera is maybe a notch better than the S5's in daylight, definitely in the dark its much better over the S5. Not sure about the OIS, I would like to see the LG G3 4k Vs the Note 4's, I have a feeling the 2nd gen OIS on the G3 will be slightly better than Samsung's first OIS camera.
The review:
http://mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml
https://translate.google.com/transl...-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml
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Seems the one error in the review is stating the chipset is 20nm. The 805 is still 28nm, but some of the cellular tech is now 20nm.
Unless this review is for the Ex chip. I do not know the fab size for that.
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Seems the one error in the review is stating the chipset is 20nm. The 805 is still 28nm, but some of the cellular tech is now 20nm.
Unless this review is for the Ex chip. I do not know the fab size for that.
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Yes, the review Is based on Exynos model.
Well you should have read the title of this thread
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Well you should have read the title of this thread
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and you should have thought of a future proof name
Note 4 Exynos Review
Another Russian review is up for Samsung SM-N910C Exynos variant from HI-TECH.MAIL. What I gathered through google translate is: 1) Best Screen 2) Excellent camera , Sony module with Samsung Isocell technology (!?) 3) Exynos supports LTE-A CAT6 4) Battery same or a little bit worse than Note 3 5) Speaker a little bit better the Iphone 6 ,Note 3 but nothing spectacular here, 6) Strong CPU performance better than SD 805 but GPU is worse than Adreno 420 at least on Manhattan+T-REX gpu tests/scores, no heat problems even in demanding situations
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Another Russian review is up for Samsung SM-N910C Exynos variant from HI-TECH.MAIL. What I gathered through google translate is: 1) Best Screen 2) Excellent camera , Sony module with Samsung Isocell technology (!?) 3) Exynos supports LTE-A CAT6 4) Battery same or a little bit worse than Note 3 5) Speaker a little bit better the Iphone 6 ,Note 3 but nothing spectacular here, 6) Strong CPU performance better than SD 805 but GPU is worse than Adreno 420 at least on Manhattan+T-REX gpu tests/scores, no heat problems even in demanding situations
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I read that review, but I think we have to wait for more batterylife tests. They did the test with full brightness which is higher compared to GN3. This same site also mentioned that Galaxy Alpha did 11hrs of video playback in their tests, which I never found anywhere else. Also their benchmark number for GFXbench was quite different from other result we saw. Maybe just a firmware issue or improper results.
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I read that review, but I think we have to wait for more batterylife tests. They did the test with full brightness which is higher compared to GN3. This same site also mentioned that Galaxy Alpha did 11hrs of video playback in their tests, which I never found anywhere else. Also their benchmark number for GFXbench was quite different from other result we saw. Maybe just a firmware issue or improper results.
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I guess we are waiting for Anandtech's review to make it crystal clear.
Beautiful -- I am referring to the phone as well
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Beautiful -- I am referring to the phone as well
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Haha.
When she placed the Note 4 next to her face, I was like "Whoa! Big Phone!"
Then a sec later another thought followed up, "Hm... must be a petite lady!"
I owned a Note 3, so I'm aware of its size
Looks like Note 4 can display better white vs Note 3 from that first Russian review. And zoomed-in text still looked sharp when Note 3 was looking pixelated. Can't wait!
Doesn't the note 4 have a 16mp camera?? Why are they making a lower resolution for a 850.00 phone ?
I think it's because of it being water resistant? I'm not sure.
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I think it's because of it being water resistant? I'm not sure.
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I was thinking about getting one due to an upgraded camera from the note 4 because my phone is my only camera and the note 4 takes some really great pictures but jeeez downgrading 4mp doesnt sound like much of an upgrade :/
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I was thinking about getting one due to an upgraded camera from the note 4 because my phone is my only camera and the note 4 takes some really great pictures but jeeez downgrading 4mp doesnt sound like much of an upgrade :/
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The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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The pixels are much bigger, it has better low light, and better focusing. There is no doubt it is a better camera, just a lower resolution.
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See , I figured it had to be something like that . I couldnt imagine theyd be putting a worse camera in a freakin damn near 900 phone.
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Doesn't the note 4 have a 16mp camera?? Why are they making a lower resolution for a 850.00 phone ?
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High mega pixels are over rated, for one. Simply not necessary. Just a selling ploy from way back. "Bigger/more is better" Not!
No one prints these out, so simply viewing them on the phone or pc does not require such a HUGE image file. And if you did print them out, at 16MP, they should be poster size. LOL. Many users don't understand this, so they fill their SD cards up quickly with these huge image files and need more SD cards, and larger hard drives. I've wondered for years when the madness would end.
I turn my settings to midway at best. Usually lower, unless I plan to print.
I am disipointing about the chanhe samsung made regarding to aspect ratio on max resolution. Note 4 had 16/9 and now note 7 has 4/3. I dont understand why samsung bad to change a good thing. 4/3 is awefull on the wide screen on a laptop on a slideplay cause is onlu show 75% of screen.
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I am disipointing about the chanhe samsung made regarding to aspect ratio on max resolution. Note 4 had 16/9 and now note 7 has 4/3. I dont understand why samsung bad to change a good thing. 4/3 is awefull on the wide screen on a laptop on a slideplay cause is onlu show 75% of screen.
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16:9 is cropped 4:3 when it comes to photography.
Yea them sony phones have 21 mega pixel and they suck.. the note 7 has same camera as s7 which is the best camera phone u can buy, the apature is higher therfore no need for more than 12mp, note 4 has 1.3 or 1.4 lens apature I think. Note 7 is 1.7 aperture dual pixel auto focus.. but I don't take a lot of pics, I'm disappointed in the processor.. it's just a s7 with an spend and dual edge screen.. should of had 6gb ram too! BOO!
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This thread does not belong here. It belongs in the Note 7 forum not the Note 4!
This has nothing to do with the note 4 other than you are comparing it to the note 4.
TL;DR Incorrect forum.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-note-7/help
Moved to T-mo Note 7 forum as it compares against Note 4.
From the specs, the resolution of Note 7 camera is lower, but the performance of the camera has improved. Galaxy Note 7 used the same camera sensor as Galaxy S7 edge, and just optimize the camera app operation.
And an FYI, although it is 12 MP, it is also dual pixel so it will get better low light and about double pixels (think 24 mp)
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I had the S7 Edge for a few weeks and the camera is better than the Note 5 I have. The big difference is in low light settings and that is where you really see the difference. The one thing I did not like as much was the aspect ratio. It just doesn't seem right to take the pictures full screen but when viewing them they are not full screen. That is the only thing that I wish was different with the camera but now we just have to crop the pics to use them as backgrounds on widescreen devices. I would rather have the better picture quality over aspect ratio but it would have been nice if we could have had both.
More pixels doesnt equal better photos. For years iphone out shot tons of android phone with 12 and 16 mp and never had to break 8mp to do it
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samsung knows that there doing.
I had the note 3, note 4 edge and s7 edge. The s7 edge has the best camera and the note 7 is suppose to use the same camera.
So there is no doubt that the note 7 camera will be better then the note 4.
and more pixels dont always mean a better picture.
I learn this long time ago. I had big megapixel camera that took flat wash out photos. While my lower pixel cameras took way better photos.
My wife just bought a Sony Camera for $200. The point is its 22MPs...The Note 4 takes better pics and is less and the Note 7 is less than that ans takes even better. ... there's a lot more variables than the number of megapixels
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taken from my 12mp S7 camera
Is there any zoom feature on the Note 7? I've looked at all the you tube videos and haven't been able to find anything.
So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
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U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
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So, on the US variant you have (maybe) the same back camera sensors, but a sony selfie camera. But from what i heard, there are phones with sony main back sensors too. How is your experience with the camera?
BTW, here are the screenshots from my exynos variant.
I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
with gcam the photos are so much better, full sun light samsung cam app is fine.
SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
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I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
Both Samsung iso cameras on my s10e exynos
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
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In my experience, in bright lights, S10 does capture more vibrant colors than Note9/S9, but when there is low light environment like bar or a room in night time, the sharpness goes haywire and colors look washed out. I can post a couple comparison pics.
Check out this Anandtech review from yesterday, they found the Snapdragon S10 camera images superior to Exynos. Even the DAC for audio 3.5mm jack is screwed up on Exynos. I may just get the stupid US locked Bootloader S10 until Samsung fixes these problems on Exynos.
Link to Anandtech review below, it is all accurate from my experience. The battery issue on Exynos is resolved however and now it meets or beats Snapdragon on battery front.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/17
You speak right of my soul. The post processing is a disaster. Just take a normal picture from, idk, a landscape. When you then go into gallery to view the image, it needs like 2-3 seconds to "optimize" it. After this, the image seems to be good at first sight, but if you just slightly zoom into the photo, you can see how unbelievable blurred and unsharp it is. At least unbelievable for a ~1000€ smartphone. My OnePlus 6 made way better pictures. I'm very dissapointed.
Why samsung why?
Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Excellent for me.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_CMOS Look the notes
The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K3J1 or the Sony IMX374. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
11: The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K2L4 or the Sony SAK2L4. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
You are wrong.
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
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JanLodz said:
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So in AIDA64 "SLSI_SAK2L4SX" and "SLSI_SAK2L4_FIMC_IS" are identical sensors from Sony?
Another topic, does your AIDA list the Sensor of the tele camera? Mine does not. (Most likely the "S5K3M3")
Anyone got any true comparison to the camera quality of these 2 phones ? I've always had Pixels literally from the Pixel 2 onwards but I'm not convinced with the camera innovation on the Pixel 5 in fact if anything I'm finding the pics rather dull even compared to my 4XL and my 3XL.
Compared to my wife's Note 20 5G my P5 takes way better photos. I have tested both side by side. I think the cameras are similar on the S20fe and Note 20.
Not to mention the P5 has a far superior OS and better update support.
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Compared to my wife's Note 20 5G my P5 takes way better photos. I have tested both side by side. I think the cameras are similar on the S20fe and Note 20.
Not to mention the P5 has a far superior OS and better update support.
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Are the Samsung pics oversaturated etc as normal ?
Not really but you can tell they look different. I prefer how the P5 pics come out
i have s20+ and p5. samsung still sucks in the camera department. about 1/5 photos from my s20 look "pretty" good. they just can't get processing right.
my p5 always takes amazing photos.
there is no contest.
My current phone is Samsung Galaxy S10+.
I really like its 2K AMOLED screen, stereo audio, UI and the cameras.
My main focus is photography and videos (mainly with rear camera) and I get mad that I can't take a good astrophotography and I don't have a fully compatible GCam (My only cons.).
What do you guys say abaout an upgrade to Xiaomi Mi 11?
It will worth sell my S10+ to buy it?
PS: My budget can't afford Galaxy S21 Ultra or Mi 11 Ultra.
Thanks bros!
Stay safe!
These smartphones don't have enough light gathering capability for good astrophotography.
At this time my prime choice is still the Note 10+ running on Pie.
No Q or 11 scope storage or other cpu cycle robbing security bs.
The Note 20U be my next choice.
Both Android and Samsung have been playing the wicked game of drop the ball.
Nobody is the winner is when playing that game
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These smartphones don't have enough light gathering capability for good astrophotography.
At this time my prime choice is still the Note 10+ running on Pie.
No Q or 11 scope storage or other cpu cycle robbing security bs.
The Note 20U be my next choice.
Both Android and Samsung have been playing the wicked game of drop the ball.
Nobody is the winner is when playing that game
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I know we are talking about smartphones, not DSLR cameras.
Take a look at the picture attached. I got this one with my old Mi 9.
When I mean "astrophotography" is take picture like this for fun.
What I want to know is if I'll have a better photo/video package comparing to S10+
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I know we are talking about smartphones, not DSLR cameras.
Take a look at the picture attached. I got this one with my old Mi 9.
When I mean "astrophotography" is take picture like this for fun.
What I want to know is if I'll have a better photo/video package comparing to S10+
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That's a damn fine shot
I'm surprised you could do that with any smartphone. Pro cams have more precision controls to easily dial it in.
I know what your saying but a 10 mm lense grabs only a fraction of the light that a 67 mm can. Size matters
Used cam bodies and lens can be had at reasonable prices if you look.
I coming from mi 9
It wasn't worth to upgrade to mi 11, in my opinion
The mi 11 ist better in low light, but the camera is slower , slower taking pictures or slow autofocus or wrong focus.
Since I own both of them, I would probably recommend the Galaxy S20FE over the Mi 11 if you are interested in pictures. The 3 lenses on the FE really give it an advantage over the Mi 11 in my opinion (especially with the 3x telephoto). I also prefer the software processing on the FE over what you get with the Mi 11. However you can use Google Photos editor to adjust color and dynamic range on the Mi 11 photos to make them look as good as you get on the FE. The Mi 11 DOES capture more detail with the 108MP lens for sure.
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Since I own both of them, I would probably recommend the Galaxy S20FE over the Mi 11 if you are interested in pictures. The 3 lenses on the FE really give it an advantage over the Mi 11 in my opinion (especially with the 3x telephoto). I also prefer the software processing on the FE over what you get with the Mi 11. However you can use Google Photos editor to adjust color and dynamic range on the Mi 11 photos to make them look as good as you get on the FE. The Mi 11 DOES capture more detail with the 108MP lens for sure.
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I aimed for Mi 11 to keep the 2K AMOLED screen and stereo audio. I really appreciate these features.
I'm not the guy that take a picture and post it as it was taken, I always edit them in Adobe Lightroom.
I'd like to fell free to use GCam and its features without headache or limitations (My S10+ is Exynos).
Here with S10+ I make macro pictures using 2x zoom lens + macro lens I made myself.
Check the picture I attached
Ricardo Guariento said:
I aimed for Mi 11 to keep the 2K AMOLED screen and stereo audio. I really appreciate these features.
I'm not the guy that take a picture and post it as it was taken, I always edit them in Adobe Lightroom.
I'd like to fell free to use GCam and its features without headache or limitations (My S10+ is Exynos).
Here with S10+ I make macro pictures using 2x zoom lens + macro lens I made myself.
Check the picture I attached
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I see your'e really talented in mobile photography.
Currently I do own both Mi 11 and Mi 10 Pro. They do share same sized 1/1.33" sensors, but Mi 10 Pro has wider aperture of f1.69 (exif says f1.65) and Mi 11 has f1.85. Also Mi 10 Pro has 8P lens which helps with distortion and I do see some more details too.
I've attached my test image using same settings and Mi 10 Pro has clear advantage in gathering light vs Mi 11 (check picture - on top Mi 11, on bottom Mi 10 Pro (brighter). Mi 11 just has a little bit better processing and makes it just a bit quicker because of SD888. But SD865 is better optimised system at this moment. Also the processing of SD888 advantages does not matter then using gcam - there Mi 10 Pro has clear advantage. The slower aperture of mi 11's f1.85 could be possible better on daytime, but it's not the case.
My advice would be to go for Mi 10 Pro / Ultra if your'e interested in photography/ videography and especially in low light. Mi 11 Ultra is best, but it is pricey.
Mi 11 is overall very nice device to hold and use, I'm loving it. But not battery time - for me it's bad as it was with mi mix 3.
Some users suggested S20 FE with their 1/1.76" f1.8 sensor - if it's 5G version you get SD865 and imx555 - this is best regular bayer sensor for mobiles on android. No BS like on those "now ordinary" quad or nona bayer sensors with artifacts. I like how it performs. Made some test's with Mi 11 in comparision - in day time I prefer S20 FE's videos (photo's are great, but details of 27mpx wins slightly with mi 11). In low light Mi 11 has slight advantage of gathering more light / better noise control of bigger sensor (raw images). In some cases S20 FE wins, in more cases Mi 11. I hate Mi's default camera processing, so using only RAW images shot on pro mode or using GCAM. Then it has clear advantage over S20/S21 basic models (otherwise not - because of inconsistency).
Also good phone for astrophotography would be Vivo X60 Pro + - big sensor 1/1.31 and F1.57 aperture.