how hot can elephone m2 become before its functioning is no longer reliable - Elephone M2

Dear all,
I just got a reply from a software support team that is quite normal that my mobile gets at temperature of 70 degrees Celsius or more. Not to worry about it unless the mobile shuts itself down automatically.
The reason of the heat build up is loss of GPS signal. I can recreate the problem easily.
I ask the software company to help and they waved the problem.
What is your ideas about this.
Kind regards,
Leo.

Wait so you're saying that if I disable location services altogether it won't heatup that much?

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Kaiser gets hot (warm) after use for a long time

Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
Is your battery draining fast?
Get a battery meter and test that because I had a TyTN that did that...
same here original rom wm6.1 NL
Noel M said:
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
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If I where you I would try a diffrent radio and check what aps you are running in background/prosseses. I often use my kaiser as an wifi router and I dont think you gets close to as warm as mine streaming and charging at the same time I abuse it so hard it resets itself, now thats hot hehe. Anyway, some radio are battery monsters for me, its just about to find the best one for youreself.
I have good experience with: 1.58.25.17 in Norway, havent tried it whit duttys.
If not you can try 1.65.14.06 and 1.65.17.10 wich dutty included whit the release.
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
Noel M said:
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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i only experienced this one time when i had my gps turned on for half an hour and my phone turned into a hot potato and battery went from 95 to 15 percent.
u have to realize though that the tilt is sorta like a mini laptop and it will start getting warm after some time unless u give it some rest.
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
Noel M said:
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Unfortunately this is almost unavoidable with lithium batteries. My HTC TyTN II battery gets hot while charging, and even hotter if phone is being used (voice or data). It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging (at least they have thermal control circuits, it could explode otherwise, lithium batteries do not like the heat).
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
Hi Vcespon:
THis is horrible, I can't belive with a advance phone like kaiser something like this happen. Is there any firmware that might fix this, otherwise I will thinking to change this phone, this is unacceptable.
vcespon said:
It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging.
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
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That's not normal. If it is the case your most likely have a hardware problem. Same to the OP.
Mine also got warm and was emptying the battery in a couple of hours once the radio broke down.
Other than this, the only cases where the phone will get really hot is when using WMWifirouter to route the 3G connection to WLAN and downloading a lot. Both the 3G and WiFi radios being on and working hard, plus the processor doing the routing uses a tremendous amount of power. But the device wasn't meant to be used that way anyway.
The GPS also uses quite a bit of power so if you have that on on you might want to try turning it off.
When just talking on the phone the device should get a little warm but no more.
The battery meter would show how much of your battery is being drained when idle... mainly shut down all applications and see what the reading is and that would give you an idea if the device is defective.
I can tell ya, mine gets HOT. I sent the first one back because I thought it was defective. Also with a couple different roms it makes no difference. If your using 3G, BT, GPS, or any combination of those, that SOB will get hot. If I'm charging at the same time, it gets so hot it shuts the charging proccess down. I have to hold it over a AC vent to cool it back down.
Over all though, the only complaint I have with the phone is the heat and battery drain issue.
dead phone or dead battery
Do not know if this where to post. But my TyTn stopped charging. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out any access to the local AT&T to get a battery quick. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life? Thanks in advance.
I can say from my experience with a tytn and now a tytnII when you use them rigorously , they will get hot. I guess the real question is how hot is it really getting and what is running on the phone. Is it uncomfortable to hold?
On EDGE data with FlexMail and IM+ online, the phone stays ice cold. On HSDPA the same, it gets slightly warm. When talking on the phone with HSDPA, it gets a bit warmer.
When using GPS+iGO8 or TomTom, it gets rather warm. Add charging and it gets pretty hot. I've seen batterystatus show as high as 42C using internal GPS+iGO8+Charging.
Gets hot + doesn't charge from laptop
I've got a similar problem - Kaiser may get hot when being used as a modem and/or charging...., well I've actually had this going on from time to time and wasn't much concerned about it until now: the battery doesn't charge when connected to my laptop - ActiveSync or modem, the amber light doesn't come on, plus drains fast.
The Kaiser(so the battery) is only 3 mths old (although I use it heavily as a modem) and I guess it's unlikely that changing the battery will help here...
My kaiser gets warm too.. I guess it's because I'm hot.
Never mind
HR fixed it...
You also have to remember that these things have a 400mhz processor in them without any fan. Now when your using that processor to the fullest, it IS going to get warm. This is what your going to get from any high performance electronic item without a cooling fan. It's not unacceptable, it's the way it is. 3G, bluetooth, and WiFi can be very processor intensive depending on use, imagine all 3 on at the same time, not to mention the added heat from rapid battery discharge (which is unavoidable when using the radio).
The designers of the phone are no idiots, they designed systems that shut the phone off if it's going to get damaged. So if your worried about the heat cause it's uncomfortable, don't work the sucker so hard! ;-)
Hi to all and thanks for the replies;
My theory is that if you buy an expensive phone you need to exploit until the limit. I bought the kaiser because is a phone that can give me almost any kind of connection and I can be connect online almost everywhere. I can't stand that If I use the 3G connection for 10 minutes the phones gets so warm. I use battery status too and the temperature is like 42F after I use the phone for 10 minutes.

High running temperature

I know there is another thread about this, but I feel that it does need bringing to everyone's attention, as it may not be a hardware issue...
It seems that when I have my diamond on charge, the lower section of the rear of the case gets very warm. Now at first, I thaught the battery charging or being under load was the issue, but it seems more like the area which is heating up, is the area where I assume the CPU is (to the left of the sim card slot as you look at it form the rear). When I disable all of the wireless devices it has, the temperature decreases a little, but even when sitting idle on the desk with the backlight at it's lowest, it still seems to get warmer than i'd expect it to. Not only does the rear of the device become warm, the metal sides of the case become rather warm as well, and the lower panel with the buttons in it also warms up to about the same temperature.
Could this be a faulty device, or is this actually a recognised feature of the device? (I have an O2 XDA Insignia/Diamond running in GSM mode currently). I have read that others are suffering from warm temperatures, and I'd like to know the cause, even if it's not possible to fix it.
Thanks for any info...
I've got a compact IV and mine runs hot whenever I have tt6 running, suf the net, use youtube - you get the idea -so it's not the battery. It was a lot worse before I flashed a custom ROM.
Before I got my phone I phoned up T-Mobile to check for stock and one of the stores told me that they had to send their stock back for replacement as there were problems with the phone overheating. This was also discussed for the Compact IV on another thread.
I've had my phone for a few weeks and it seems fine - just hot when I run certain programs...
it is a documented aspect of the phone... read this PDF
http://member.america.htc.com/downl..._Diamond/HTC_Diamond_User_Manual_Asia_WWE.pdf
when in idle htc isnt hot at all, but when chatging or using gps it becamo really really hot. but when using wlan,opera,msn,etc it isnt hot even worm, the temperatures are ok.
what he said
3 situations I've noticed mine the warmest.
1 - On charge (with the screen left on)
2 - Running TomTom 7
3 - After a long-ish phone call
It seems the temperature goes in line with the CPU usage and the battery discharge.
Sometimes I can feel the phone being hot in my pocket, even when in standby. I installed a taskmanager to see what application is taking so much CPU power. When I switch it on, I can see the historical CPU usage being around 50% (when the phone was in standby!). Unfortunately it drops immediatly to a reasonable 4-5% and so far I could not identify which application is the cause.
Cheers
Amin

Is anyone else's Note 4 overheating from regular use?

It's hard to judge as I've mostly noticed the back of the phone getting pretty hot while playing Spider-man Unlimited (specifically in the area under the camera, indicating the CPU and not the battery). I had the same issue with my Note 2 (the phone I had before this one), except that it would only heat up when I played that game and feel normal during other tasks. On my Note 4, it seems to get hot for everything: camera use, internet browsing, etc. I thought it might be because the phone was "settling" in, but it's been about a week now. So far, unrooted and no other tweaks applied.
Anyone else experience this? Does it justify a return to T-mobile? Will they even do it for an issue like this?
I've had mine since Saturday and it's only gotten warm once and that was while playing Asphalt 8. Otherwise this is much better than my old G3 or Nexus 5
Mine used to. Then it cleared up. I can run it for hours with the screen on while I drive for work and it's fine.
Mine did, and after some digging I realized it was the ims service running up the cpu. I disabled wifi calling, restarted and I've been fine since. I havent tested my theory, but I suspect it may be that some services dont recover properly after using ultra power saving mode and need a restart to function properly.
Same problem
Me ! It happened to me, just only after 10 days that I brought the phone. What happend was It was just open the whole night while I was sleeping. It was'nt plugged to a charger nor was it connected to the internet ( via mobile data or wifi). The moment I woke up and reached for my phone, It was really hot!!! Very Very HOT!! I could not even touch it with my bare hands! So I turned it off and decided it would need to be changed because I dont know if the cpu is not good anymore. Although all the apps seem to be working perfectly fine, I just had to give it back to retailer AND ask for a new unit!!. ...
nope, cool as ice. but haven't played any graphically intense games and I am on a custom rom.
Not here. Been very cool even after extended GPS or Clash of Clans use.
I don't have a case on it if that matters.
Which is a very welcome change from my old htc ltevo, which would get almost too hot to hold.
Moved to Q&A.
So I installed CPUTemp from the Play Store and have monitored the temperature doing various tasks (there's an overlay feature which shows you the temp no matter what you're doing on the phone). While it's not surprising to get above 50C while playing a graphically intensive game, I found myself easily getting into the 60C's during regular tasks.
After contacting a T-mobile tech support rep, I was advised to reset the phone and install as few apps as possible for testing. I made sure not to install Spider-man Unlimited this time around. During the night, CPUTemp recorded a temperature spike of over 70C, when the phone was not being used and should have been sleeping!
Unfortunately, xda search and Google have not been very helpful in determining how high a temperature is too high for this device to be operating at.
Anyone have any clues if what I'm seeing is too high (indicating a defective device that needs to be replaced)? Is anyone willing to install CPUTemp and give me an idea of the kind of temperatures you're seeing while doing things like internet browsing, email, phone calls, etc.?
If you are concerned about the temp, you should exchange it. Full Stop.
Regarding the CPUTemp app, I couldn't find that one.
Do you have a link to the app you are using?
drdoombot said:
It's hard to judge as I've mostly noticed the back of the phone getting pretty hot while playing Spider-man Unlimited (specifically in the area under the camera, indicating the CPU and not the battery). I had the same issue with my Note 2 (the phone I had before this one), except that it would only heat up when I played that game and feel normal during other tasks. On my Note 4, it seems to get hot for everything: camera use, internet browsing, etc. I thought it might be because the phone was "settling" in, but it's been about a week now. So far, unrooted and no other tweaks applied.
Anyone else experience this? Does it justify a return to T-mobile? Will they even do it for an issue like this?
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Are you running a custom rom? If so, sounds like a kernel issue.
Will Rickards said:
If you are concerned about the temp, you should exchange it. Full Stop.
Regarding the CPUTemp app, I couldn't find that one.
Do you have a link to the app you are using?
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If only it were that simple! You basically have to prove to T-mobile that the phone is abnormally hot, but that's hard to do if you don't have a baseline.
By the way, here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en
Also, just to repeat: this is an unrooted, unROMed, unmodified in any way Note 4.
I installed that app and tested last night.
Normal temps in 40 - 45 degrees Celsius.
Playing clash of clans it got into the mid 50s.
It never got near 60.
My phone ran hot when I left nfc on all the time . As soon as I turned it off I have been running perfectly cool
I left the CPU Temp running longer.
Temps were between 34 and 57 degrees.
40s for normal use.
drdoombot said:
So I installed CPUTemp from the Play Store and have monitored the temperature doing various tasks (there's an overlay feature which shows you the temp no matter what you're doing on the phone). While it's not surprising to get above 50C while playing a graphically intensive game, I found myself easily getting into the 60C's during regular tasks.
After contacting a T-mobile tech support rep, I was advised to reset the phone and install as few apps as possible for testing. I made sure not to install Spider-man Unlimited this time around. During the night, CPUTemp recorded a temperature spike of over 70C, when the phone was not being used and should have been sleeping!
Unfortunately, xda search and Google have not been very helpful in determining how high a temperature is too high for this device to be operating at.
Anyone have any clues if what I'm seeing is too high (indicating a defective device that needs to be replaced)? Is anyone willing to install CPUTemp and give me an idea of the kind of temperatures you're seeing while doing things like internet browsing, email, phone calls, etc.?
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I don't know if you're still facing that problem or not but I just wanted to share my experience with your device's predecessor the note 3 because I happen to monitor the temperature most of the time, so while browsing it can get to 53 celsius degrees after a while and loading heavy websites, in games it's mostly in the 50-63 zone depending on how intensive the game is but certain games would push the temperature to 66 and sometimes 69 degrees, I know that the operating temperature of my SOC is 0-70 degrees but it never gets above 70 (Iam using cm11 rom with custom kernel and faux123) keep in mind that you have a faster chip so you might get a bit higher temperatures.
I just use this and I am good.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
Never encountered overheating with the T-Mobile Note 4, but with the AT&T Note 4 I have. Either it has to do with the software (which Firmware you currently have installed) or defective hardware. In the general norm, it also depends what you have running in the background or the particular app being used at the given moment. I had overheating issues with the AT&T Note 4 and nothing was installed. AT&T was a PITA.
Even when playing games my Note 4 doesn't heat up at all. Only when charging. Compared to my S4 becoming incredibly hot.
I would suggest returning the phone. I tested out my Note 4 today for the first time. No games on it. Downloded some apps. It overheated and I was very , very disappointed. Will be returning this unit.
drdoombot said:
So I installed CPUTemp from the Play Store and have monitored the temperature doing various tasks (there's an overlay feature which shows you the temp no matter what you're doing on the phone). While it's not surprising to get above 50C while playing a graphically intensive game, I found myself easily getting into the 60C's during regular tasks.
After contacting a T-mobile tech support rep, I was advised to reset the phone and install as few apps as possible for testing. I made sure not to install Spider-man Unlimited this time around. During the night, CPUTemp recorded a temperature spike of over 70C, when the phone was not being used and should have been sleeping!
Unfortunately, xda search and Google have not been very helpful in determining how high a temperature is too high for this device to be operating at.
Anyone have any clues if what I'm seeing is too high (indicating a defective device that needs to be replaced)? Is anyone willing to install CPUTemp and give me an idea of the kind of temperatures you're seeing while doing things like internet browsing, email, phone calls, etc.?
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[Q] heat issue C6603

I updated to android 5.0.2 and the back back of my is getting really hot and im not even doing running heavy apps. Is this a known issue on lollipop for the xperia Z? Is there a fix?
Thanks in advance
I have the same problem and it is even turning the device off because it is getting to hot.
No..problem of heating.... Yet...
Device may hot its normal... Because its waterproof so there's no way air can get in....to make it cool...
It's also depends on the temperature on location where you live... Here in India... Now a days.. Temperature goes upto 47 degree celsius.....
So location temperature may affect the device temperature... It's Normal....

Xperia Z3 compact Very Hot. up 41° celcius.

Hi everyone, I have a serious problem with my Xperia Z3c, this don't stop to go up the temperature, this happens when I open some Applications, in consequence, the battery life go down very fast, i try to do the hard reset, reinstall again the software, but no fix that, I try to write many times To Sony, but they don't gimme any solution, in attached the screenshot for the temperature, using a little facebook, instagram and whatapps.
my version SO is:
Android 6.0.1
23.5.A.0.575
Ps: All versions have had this problem.
Thanks for the help.
giampiero987 said:
Hi everyone, I have a serious problem with my Xperia Z3c, this don't stop to go up the temperature, this happens when I open some Applications, in consequence, the battery life go down very fast, i try to do the hard reset, reinstall again the software, but no fix that, I try to write many times To Sony, but they don't gimme any solution, in attached the screenshot for the temperature, using a little facebook, instagram and whatapps.
my version SO is:
Android 6.0.1
23.5.A.057.
Ps: All versions have had this problem.
Thanks for the help.
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It is version 23.5.A.0.570 not 23.5.A.057
And my device reaches 90 degrees celsius when backing up through TWRP,for me it shows that 43 degrees is idle temperature,and my device doesn't even feel hot at all,or warm.
giampiero987 said:
Hi everyone, I have a serious problem with my Xperia Z3c, this don't stop to go up the temperature, this happens when I open some Applications, in consequence, the battery life go down very fast, i try to do the hard reset, reinstall again the software, but no fix that, I try to write many times To Sony, but they don't gimme any solution, in attached the screenshot for the temperature, using a little facebook, instagram and whatapps.
my version SO is:
Android 6.0.1
23.5.A.0.575
Ps: All versions have had this problem.
Thanks for the help.
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If you touch back of your phone is it hot? Anyway if resetting or changing sw didn't help it seems to be HW issue and you can only RMA.
Dinkec27 said:
It is version 23.5.A.0.570 not 23.5.A.057
And my device reaches 90 degrees celsius when backing up through TWRP,for me it shows that 43 degrees is idle temperature,and my device doesn't even feel hot at all,or warm.
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I don't think the phone would be running if the temperature was 90 degrees. And 43 idle seems to be nonsense too, I barely get that after an hour of intense gaming.
petr232 said:
If you touch back of your phone is it hot? Anyway if resetting or changing sw didn't help it seems to be HW issue and you can only RMA.
I don't think the phone would be running if the temperature was 90 degrees. And 43 idle seems to be nonsense too, I barely get that after an hour of intense gaming.
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It seems to be wrong temperature reading then,gonna see then with CPU-Z or some other app
Maybe the outside temperature is the problem. I'm studying in Germany but when I fly back home to Cyprus where the temperature is much higher (normal day in the summer 30-35°) I can feel that the phone is getting kinda warm
I have same problem.
From time to time my phone is getting not warm but hot. Most time is warm and never cool when i use it.
Running CE1 575 root. No custom rom.
I encouter same problem on CM12.1. I even started to cool my phone with water!
Sent from my Xperia Z3C using XDA-Developers mobile app
I've found that it's running hot since I did the Marshmallow update to 23.5.A.0.575
Overall battery life feels to be down and coupled with the loss of Stamina/Ultra-stamina I'm now looking to downgrade back to Lollipop.

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