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Car chargers, please recommend !

I'm going on a looooong trip next week, and will be away from home for about two weeks... Most of the driving will be of about 6 hours between hotel stops or whatever, and unless I'll be sleepy, I'll surely abuse my Note, haha. Will reach a hotel where I'll stay for 10 days, but the rest of the time will be wasted on the road...
So... a car charger is needed .
What would you guys recommend? In terms of brand, first... because I know some manufacturers write 1A on them, when they give not even half...
I've seen MOMAX chargers that give 1A @ 5V x 2 (had two USB outs) at about 15 bucks, for example.
I've also seen an orange-branded charger at 5 EUR (but it was almost double in lenght than the MOMAX one), with an included microUSB cable, that outputs 2A or 2.1A @ 5V. Would THAT one be safe to use? Or any charger that outputs >1.5A, for example...?
Also, will the phone charge faster if using a charger that gives 2A? I know it won't draw 1900mA out of it, lol, but still...

Formhault said:
What would you guys recommend? In terms of brand, first... because I know some manufacturers write 1A on them, when they give not even half...
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Formhault, last week I have purchased for my Note a Samsung car holder with 1A charger from this shop in Bucharest: http://www.alliselectronics.ro/inca...-ecsk1e1-pentru-galaxy-note-incarcatoare-auto
Unfortunately I did not test it yet on the car on a long drive and with the Note running empty; also due to the small form of the microusb plug I cannot perform any electric measurement.
I can confirm that measuring other car chargers of 0.5A and 0.7A I have found out that the o/p voltage is dropping a lot during the charging process, thus explaining the resulting low current and long charging time.
At he same shop you also can find a stand alone Samsung car charger, also of 1A at http://www.alliselectronics.ro/incarcatoare/auto/incarcator-auto-samsung-ecau16c-accesorii-tablete
Formhault said:
I've also seen an orange-branded charger at 5 EUR (but it was almost double in lenght than the MOMAX one), with an included microUSB cable, that outputs 2A or 2.1A @ 5V. Would THAT one be safe to use? Or any charger that outputs >1.5A, for example...?
Also, will the phone charge faster if using a charger that gives 2A? I know it won't draw 1900mA out of it, lol, but still...
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The output current capability of a charger has nothing to do with how much curent the phone will draw while charging (of course the maximum rating of the charger must not be exceeded), on the condition that the 5V output voltage is not going too high at the lowest current consumption (when the battery is almost full).
Good luck in finding the suitable charger for your needs!

Mobile Inverter is the solution.
Formhault said:
I'm going on a looooong trip next week, and will be away from home for about two weeks... Most of the driving will be of about 6 hours between hotel stops or whatever, and unless I'll be sleepy, I'll surely abuse my Note, haha. Will reach a hotel where I'll stay for 10 days, but the rest of the time will be wasted on the road...
So... a car charger is needed .
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Try a mobile inverter and use your prefered wall charger. in 400W range you can charger all your devices. Try here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=lawngarden&field-keywords=Mobile+Inverter
I use a chinese one here, one with two outlets and 2 usbs 1A each. It's big but it's the perfect solution. Otherwise i have a powerjolt from griffin ,5A for the phone during car navigation. http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q It's really small and stealth.
Cya.
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axelTP2 said:
Formhault, last week I have purchased for my Note a Samsung car holder with 1A charger from this shop in Bucharest: http://www.alliselectronics.ro/inca...-ecsk1e1-pentru-galaxy-note-incarcatoare-auto
Unfortunately I did not test it yet on the car on a long drive and with the Note running empty; also due to the small form of the microusb plug I cannot perform any electric measurement.
I can confirm that measuring other car chargers of 0.5A and 0.7A I have found out that the o/p voltage is dropping a lot during the charging process, thus explaining the resulting low current and long charging time.
At he same shop you also can find a stand alone Samsung car charger, also of 1A at http://www.alliselectronics.ro/incarcatoare/auto/incarcator-auto-samsung-ecau16c-accesorii-tablete
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Erm... the first one looks expensive. I don't need a holder. No-go.
The second one is expensive, too, but I think I'd rather pay that money for THAT instead of the Momax one. GOSH, they don't state the lenght of the cable. Any idea how long that is?
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The output current capability of a charger has nothing to do with how much curent the phone will draw while charging (of course the maximum rating of the charger must not be exceeded), on the condition that the 5V output voltage is not going too high at the lowest current consumption (when the battery is almost full).
Good luck in finding the suitable charger for your needs!
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Yeah... I kind of noticed that. The Note draws even 1200mA at times, and I tried with the original charger and a HTC wall brick charger (both giving 1A @ 5V). So yeah... guess the phone can draw more than the charger can provide, if that makes sense, lol.
So you're saying that even a 700mA @ 5V charger can give 1A to the phone? Or I got it all wrong?

TekNiTe said:
Try a mobile inverter and use your prefered wall charger. in 400W range you can charger all your devices. Try here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=lawngarden&field-keywords=Mobile+Inverter
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WHAT?! LOL!
That makes me think... why not use a car battery rectifier and give it 50 amps to eat . Sorry, but that's the first thing that popped in my head when I heard "inverter".
Still not sure what that thing is, so let's proceed to the second part.
TekNiTe said:
I use a chinese one here, one with two outlets and 2 usbs 1A each. It's big but it's the perfect solution. Otherwise i have a powerjolt from griffin ,5A for the phone during car navigation. http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q It's really small and stealth.
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Heard Griffin are good!
You mean that Griffin Powerjolt (which is stated to give 1A) outputs 5 AMPS TO YOUR PHONE?!?!?!
Although that thing is cheap on Amazon... it's about 20 EUR here, in Romania . At least that's the smallest price I can find for it... so, not sure I'll go for that one .

Formhault said:
The Note draws even 1200mA at times, and I tried with the original charger and a HTC wall brick charger (both giving 1A @ 5V).
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How did you measure that 1.2A charging current, please?
Formhault said:
So you're saying that even a 700mA @ 5V charger can give 1A to the phone? Or I got it all wrong?
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No, I did not say that, on the contrary.
Here are some measured values:
0.7A car charger:
Open circuit voltage (disconnected phone):5.34V
Voltage under charging: 4.52V
Charging current: 0.6A measured on a resistor load
0.5A car charger:
Open circuit voltage (disconnected phone):5.31V
Voltage under charging: 3.16V
Charging current: 0.42A measured on a resistor load
Both chargers are doing the job, but very, very slow (2 to 3 hours from empty to full battery charge) and IF not many services are running on the phone.
Hope that helps......

axelTP2 said:
How did you measure that 1.2A charging current, please?
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Battery Monitor Widget - set the logging to every 60 seconds.
I attached the .txt logs to this post. Each log was done during charging, with Wi-Fi, Data and GPS off. Alarms were set to go off sometime in the morning (7 AM or 8, whatever), it is visible in the logs.
Even 2 and 1.6 amps were drawn at some point .
I used two chargers, because I wanted to see whether the HTC one can charge faster... if it can give more than 1A more often. It seems not, so I won't spend 10 bucks on a HTC one; will stick to the provided Samsung charger.
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No, I did not say that, on the contrary.
Here are some measured values:
0.7A car charger:
Open circuit voltage (disconnected phone):5.34V
Voltage under charging: 4.52V
Charging current: 0.6A measured on a resistor load
0.5A car charger:
Open circuit voltage (disconnected phone):5.31V
Voltage under charging: 3.16V
Charging current: 0.42A measured on a resistor load
Both chargers are doing the job, but very, very slow (2 to 3 hours from empty to full battery charge) and IF not many services are running on the phone.
Hope that helps......
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It is said that charging at lower currents/voltages is healthier for the battery. But no thank you... I'll buy a car charger that gives 1A, lol. Still haven't decided which one I'll go for, but anyway...
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Fast(er) AC Charger Recommendations

Greetings! I was wondering what is the maximum rated input current of the Xperia Z. There's no indication of it's rated input current anywhere on the phone. The supplied charger is rated at 1.5A and I was wondering if a higher amperage charger above 5V 1.5A (such as of those catered to tablets/ipad) would charge the battery at a faster rate before investing in one.
Anyone with any experience using a higher amperage charger on the Z could advice on any notable improvements in charging time as well.
Thanks!

Used a Nexus 7 charger rated at 2A and it charged fine with no detrimental effects. Charging time is about 1.5, hours from 10% to full.
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cliffordlee said:
Greetings! I was wondering what is the maximum rated input current of the Xperia Z. There's no indication of it's rated input current anywhere on the phone. The supplied charger is rated at 1.5A and I was wondering if a higher amperage charger above 5V 1.5A (such as of those catered to tablets/ipad) would charge the battery at a faster rate before investing in one.
Anyone with any experience using a higher amperage charger on the Z could advice on any notable improvements in charging time as well.
Thanks!
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While increasing the Amps will result into fast charging... the bad part is that it kills your battery life overall.

I've tried Sony charger rated output 1500mA
and Galaxy tab charger 2A
phone on, screen off
in 10 minutes charge, both added , just the same, 10% juice.
may try it longer next time.

Dsteppa said:
While increasing the Amps will result into fast charging... the bad part is that it kills your battery life overall.
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Would you care to explain?

Great findings! I guess it's safe to say that there is no notable reduction in charging times even with the provision of higher amperage chargers, and that the Xperia Z's power management IC can only take in 1500mA at max.
moraal said:
Would you care to explain?
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Charging at higher amperage would generate more heat and this increase in heat would degrade the battery cells at an increased rate, thus reducing the lifetime of the battery in the long run
Well unless you value your charging time (or loss of usable time) more than the cost of premature replacement of battery, then quick charging is for you. Personally, given a choice, I'd rather not charge at a higher current unless necessary, especially when time is the essence. (;

moraal said:
Would you care to explain?
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I will post when I find the correct link.

Erm I'm fairly sure that whatever amp you use the phone will only draw a set amount I used a 2500mah charger with my old phone for two years no difference in charging time nor degraded battery life or iverheating , just meant I had one charger for everything lol

That's correct, it's impossible to over-charge or charge too quickly a device by using a charger with a higher current rating than the original charger. Current flow is a RESULTING property of a particular voltage applied across a particular resistance. Applying too much voltage will usually be detrimental, but you cannot SUPPLY too much current. The device will draw as much as it needs unless it is limited by the charger's maximum current rating first.
I've been using an old Blackberry charger rated at much less than 1000mA. It might take a bit longer to charge, but I love the long, supple lead that comes with it.
SF

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Can someone explain me this...
My Xperia Z came with (1) Power plug-adapter with USB port + (2) USB to Micro-USB cable + (3) Docking station.
The (1) has Output = 1500 mA written on it, the (3) has 1800 mA on it.
Questions:
Can the USB cable transfer more than 500 mA? From reading USB page on Wiki, looks like it can do 1500 mA - 5000 mA when not transferring data so I should not worry about the cable?
What is the point of including a 1800 mA docking station + 1500 mA power plug? Does the station only charge at 1500 mA when connected with that plug or am I missing something?
Thanks, sorry for noob questions

Sushifiend said:
That's correct, it's impossible to over-charge or charge too quickly a device by using a charger with a higher current rating than the original charger. Current flow is a RESULTING property of a particular voltage applied across a particular resistance. Applying too much voltage will usually be detrimental, but you cannot SUPPLY too much current. The device will draw as much as it needs unless it is limited by the charger's maximum current rating first.
I've been using an old Blackberry charger rated at much less than 1000mA. It might take a bit longer to charge, but I love the long, supple lead that comes with it.
SF
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The charging chip it self support higher current by default, but the manufacturer chooses the charger depending on different factors, design of the phone, capacity of the battery and also their stock chargers available... they will choose the best charger to match... in most cases it will be rated lower than what the charging chip is capable of...
the charging chip has it's limits also... using regular USB cables will only provides the standard current... I've used same amperage chargers as the orignal but with different cable and charging was slower... when I switched to the original cable charging was faster and had the same time as original charger ( same amperage )
When you use the original cable and higher current charger then you will have faster charging...
My Xperia arc came with socket charger rated at 950mA and a car charger rated at 1200mA... and the car charger is really faster but only when I use the original cable, when I used a longer cheap cable the charging was actually slower... even when I'm charging non-Sony devices ( like my Note 2 ) when I use original cable ( wether Samsung or Sony one ) charging is always faster... I don't know why it might be a way to protect the standard usb cable from over-current as the standard USB current is 500mA, so the charger will normally send the usual current unless the device requested higher current then it will negotiate with the charger to send higher current the original cables might have something like impedance between some pins so the phone will detect them as original then they will negotiate the charger to send higher current or the charger might actually use the other pins to send higher current but the phone will only use these pins when it detect the original cable... if not then it will not use these pins and will have regular 500mA charging... I've always faced this when dealing with other cables... now when I want longer cable I just use USB extension cable with the original cable and it will work !

wlkatz said:
Can someone explain me this...
My Xperia Z came with (1) Power plug-adapter with USB port + (2) USB to Micro-USB cable + (3) Docking station.
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As you've got the docking station can you tell us how it's wired?
Which pin is + and which is -
Cheers
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Thanks for all the replies, really informative.

fards said:
As you've got the docking station can you tell us how it's wired?
Which pin is + and which is -
Cheers
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Looking at the dock station from the front, + is on the left, - is on the right.
See pic + bonus
Also will be grateful if someone could answer my questions on 1st page.

wlkatz said:
Can someone explain me this...
My Xperia Z came with (1) Power plug-adapter with USB port + (2) USB to Micro-USB cable + (3) Docking station.
The (1) has Output = 1500 mA written on it, the (3) has 1800 mA on it.
Questions:
Can the USB cable transfer more than 500 mA? From reading USB page on Wiki, looks like it can do 1500 mA - 5000 mA when not transferring data so I should not worry about the cable?
What is the point of including a 1800 mA docking station + 1500 mA power plug? Does the station only charge at 1500 mA when connected with that plug or am I missing something?
Thanks, sorry for noob questions
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- Yes, the cable can easily transfer more than 500mah. No worries.
- It means the docking station is rated for a maximum of 1800mah - so if you buy a 2100mah charger, the docking station may get warm and if it fails Sony won't cover it under warranty. If you use the 1500mah power plug, then the docking station supplies the 1500mah - it's just a pass-through. The docking station itself doesn't really have additional circuitry.

wlkatz said:
Looking at the dock station from the front, + is on the left, - is on the right.
Also will be grateful if someone could answer my questions on 1st page.
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Prefect thanks!
Can now make some docks/charging clips using sugru and a usb cable
Not sure why the dock would be rated at 1800, unless they've fitted it with some circuitry, a simple micro usb to prongs would do.
I charge mine using the adapter that came with my note tablet which is 2a and also with the 2a output of an external battery pack.
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fards said:
Prefect thanks!
Can now make some docks/charging clips using sugru and a usb cable
Not sure why the dock would be rated at 1800, unless they've fitted it with some circuitry, a simple micro usb to prongs would do.
I charge mine using the adapter that came with my note tablet which is 2a and also with the 2a output of an external battery pack.
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Yes, they're right to write the 1.8A there.
because, not all microUSB survive to deliver more than an amps. They maybe melt. especially the cheap one that have very small and loose contact area.
the pogo pins too... Not so easy deliver 1.8A with pogo pins...
that's why intel processor, have 1000+ pins, but almost 300pins are for power supply only (GND and VCC). Although the chip is only 1.25volts, but the current sometimes about a hundred amps (Core 2 Extreme, Core i7)

Rashkae said:
- Yes, the cable can easily transfer more than 500mah. No worries.
- It means the docking station is rated for a maximum of 1800mah - so if you buy a 2100mah charger, the docking station may get warm and if it fails Sony won't cover it under warranty. If you use the 1500mah power plug, then the docking station supplies the 1500mah - it's just a pass-through. The docking station itself doesn't really have additional circuitry.
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Wrong. If you connect a 2.1A supply, you'll see no difference.
Charging rate is set by the phone, as long as the power supply feeding it doesn't "brown out" under the load.
2.1A, 3.1A - doesn't matter, the phone will draw less (I'll need to drain my battery down a bit to determine how much less, it's often less than whatever the wall charger is rated.)
There is a possibility that when it sees voltage on the pogo pin connectors, it increases charge current to a different value than on AC via the USB port. The ext charger handling in the pm8921 driver is really convoluted and difficult to read.

[Q] How much can the phone get charged maximum? can it handle 2A?

Hi,
I've got my phone with samsung's charger of 1A (bought it from an open store locally - it was the cheapest), so I ordered a Sony Ericsson charger of 1.5A which charges up much faster..
My question is, could it goes even faster?
I've seen some Galaxy Note 2 and S 4 charger of 2A like these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2A-USB-Wall...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5658d7a0bd
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-2A-USB-...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item51aabf953a
Could our phone handle it and charge it with the whole 2A power? could it ruin the battery with that high Ampere?
I'm asking this because I've ordered a docking station like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261247762140?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Which says 1.6A, so I was thinking perhaps theres stronger chargers out there for it..
Thanks!

im not sure about this but i believe the charger that comes with the phone is a 2 amp charger

It can handle 2A through USB port.
Via the charging dock, it can take 1.8A. Is that dock you are linking to an original part?
I have two DK26 docks and both say 1.8A, not 1.6A. Although if you connect a 2A charger to the dock, it'll be fine, it just won't be using the whole 2A input.

skinsfanbdh said:
im not sure about this but i believe the charger that comes with the phone is a 2 amp charger
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I've never seen a Sony's charger with 2Amp, do you mind to picture the detailed information in the back of your charger please?
DrKrFfXx said:
It can handle 2A through USB port.
Via the charging dock, it can take 1.8A. Is that dock you are linking to an original part?
I have two DK26 docks and both say 1.8A, not 1.6A,
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The Dock I've linked is a chinese copy, not the original, the one says 1.6A on description on Ebay, Does your original DK26 dock comes with charger too? What input and output is it says on each one? (picture could help much)
Also, how do you know it can handle 2A through USB? is that for sure?
Thanks for both!

The docks come barebone. No chargers included.
The charger included on the box of the phone is rated at 1.5A.
I have a Nexus 7 2A charger and an old Nokia 1.2A charger aside from the included 1.5A charger. All work fine either via USB or via the dock.
I can't notice any mayor difference on charging times, though. 1.2A charges almost as if not as fast as the 2A one. Iphone's 1A chargers do seem to take like 4 hours to charge the phone compared to the standard 2.5h I get from other higher rated wall chargers.
There are no 2A Sony chargers as of now.

DrKrFfXx said:
The docks come barebone. No chargers included.
The charger included on the box of the phone is rated at 1.5A.
I have a Nexus 7 2A charger and an old Nokia 1.2A charger aside from the included 1.5A charger. All work fine either via USB or via the dock.
I can't notice any mayor difference on charging times, though. 1.2A charges almost as if not as fast as the 2A one. Iphone's 1A chargers do seem to take like 4 hours to charge the phone compared to the standard 2.5h I get from other higher rated wall chargers.
There are no 2A Sony chargers as of now.
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I see, I think I've cleared my doubts and I shell buy this 2A samsungs charger..
Thanks!

mcjordan92 said:
I see, I think I've cleared my doubts and I shell buy this 2A samsungs charger..
Thanks!
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I'm using a 2A as my car charger works perfect.
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It should handel 2.A but I won't remand it. I don't think it's good for battery. But one thing is pretty sure. The phone will heat more up as the charging circuit have to dissipate more excess power. Can not affirm it as I don't exactly know it's made but I'm just saying...
"I know that my English isn't perfect, but I still hope it's comprehensible." Send over the cool Xperia Z

The downside would be possibly shortening the usable life of your battery, because the higher amp charging will likely heat the battery to a higher temp.
There's no free lunch.
To me, waiting a bit longer for charging is worth it to ensure the longest charge cycle life, particularly since the battery is sealed into the device. If it was a cheap and easy replaceable battery, maybe.

Amps don't matter unless it is lower than the specification
Think about your car battery having 700amps but your car stereo is fused for 20amps. Your car stereo gets its power from the battery directly. There is no power regulation. Your device will take only what it needs. It won't effect the life of your battery. Think about the charger you plugged into the wall socket. A wall socket can generate enough current to melt metal. Lower power draw is cooler but really just make sure the voltage rating matches and the amp rating isn't too low. USB should be 5 volts anyways. The big issue with amperage, can the charger handle the draw? Example would be a 3000watt car amp drawing power from a 18 gauge speaker wire. It might work but the wire will heat up since it isn't designed to carry that much current.
In short for USB the charger amperage can be higher than the device needs but probably no less than 1/2 the rated amps for the device.

As above, you could plug in a 200A charger and the phone will still only draw the same current as from a 2A charger.
The amount of current drawn by the device is firmware controlled to protect the battery from heat damage.
The stock charger is 1.5A so the phone must draw no more than that.

It's all about cables too. I have a 2 amp TomTom charger hooked up to a 3 metre long USB cable but it charges slower than the standard 'in the box' charger Sony supply at 1.5 amp.
More cable and wrong core rating = more energy lost or wasted. I actually had to ask a sparky about this one, but it's true. Cable length, rating and core make all the difference.
For instance.
If you hooked up a 3 amp charger (I had one for an old phone) to a cable that can only handle 1 amp then you will only get 1 amp into the device, probably melt your cable too over time.
Honestly, the best bet is to use as near as dammit to the original rating on the included in the box charger. Electricity is a funny thing, it can screw your phone up in ways only time and noting the battery life will show.
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[Q] Best Car Charger

I am looking for best car charger, my phone will be all day on in the car, and I am looking for best solution for charging in the car, and fastest.
I found few good chargers but not sure are they support quick charge
Samsung OEM ECA-U21CBE Micro-USB 2-Amp Rapid In-Car Power Charger
and
Car Charger, iOttie RapidVolt 5Amp/25-Watt Dual Port USB Car Charger
Or is there some third better solution? Sorry I can't post links
thank you

anything above 2A is consider fast/rapid charge and barely any difference than the "quick charge" not to mention, saving a few mintues might do more harm than good to your replaceable battery.. at 2A, the phone will go from 6-10% battery to 50% in about 25 minutes.
Anker:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
Ottie:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTBOUWO/
I have the Anker and would buy it again, and has tons of positive reviews..

Thank you, what about Verizon Quick Charge 2.0?

I have used Verizon QUALCOMM version and would recommend the quick charge version if you want to take advantage of the quick charge. If time to charge I not an issue then obviously any high amp charger like the units cited above such as iottie would work

Is quick charge healthy for battery in my case? Or maybe should I get slower one?

I am using the Airdock.
While I can't say I loved it with the S5 (was falling off) the flat back of the Edge fits perfectly on it so I'm much happier with it.
Fun streaming video, back passengers can watch video off of it with the car speakers...
works well.

rhesus98 said:
While I can't say I loved it with the S5 (was falling off) the flat back of the Edge fits perfectly on it so I'm much happier with it.
Fun streaming video, back passengers can watch video off of it with the car speakers...
works well.
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I think we are talking about chargers

TozABG said:
I think we are talking about chargers
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Airdock is a wireless charger.

TozABG said:
Is quick charge healthy for battery in my case? Or maybe should I get slower one?
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faster charging will always put a bit more wear on battery than charging at a slower rate. most people here will probably swap devices often so probably doesn't matter for them. if you plan to keep your device for a few years and want max battery life then maybe use a 5V 2A charger instead (one that i've linked to above).
2A is still "fast charge" the only difference is it's Quick Charge 1.0 which is at 5 Volts compared to Quick Charge 2.0 that runs at 9 Volts.
better example:
Quick Charge 1.0 - 5V @ 2A (5V * 2A) = 10 Watts of power
If your phone is at around 8-10% you'll get to about 50% charge in about 30 minutes.
Quick Charge 2.0 - 9V @ 1.7A (9V * 1.7A) = 15 Watts of power (up to 12V * 3A = 36 watts for some tablets)
If your phone is at around 8-10% you'll get to about 50% charge in about 20-25 minutes.
Quick Charge 2.0 will only be a little bit faster once the battery gets to around 50-60%, then it will throttle down to Quick Charge 1.0 rates to keep the battery from getting too hot and causing excessive wear.
All Quick Charge 2.0 devices are also backwards compatible with Quick Charge 1.0, meaning that you can use a Quick Charge 2.0 device with a Quick Charge 1.0 supply, and visa versa.
In short: Quick Charge 2.0 will only save you about 15 minutes to completely charge your phone compared to the normal 5V @ 2A chargers.

Get Verizons branded car charger with fast charge. Workscexcellent, and AND has a little flashlight right above the micro charge plug, which comes in super handy in dark car. Very well made.

tft said:
anything above 2A is consider fast/rapid charge and barely any difference than the "quick charge" not to mention, saving a few mintues might do more harm than good to your replaceable battery.. at 2A, the phone will go from 6-10% battery to 50% in about 25 minutes.
Anker:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
Ottie:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTBOUWO/
I have the Anker and would buy it again, and has tons of positive reviews..
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Thats not true, Yes its better
if you want Fast charge it has to have 9v out
others have 5v out even tho some have a 2.4amp out not a fast rapid charger

Good Car charger
Search Amazon for ASIN:B00ZA1E3IE

I've got two of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Getwow-Charge-Dual-Port-Charger-Adapter/dp/B00V347I9S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437142458&sr=8-2&keywords=getwow+quick+charge+2.0&pebp=1437142467005&perid=0CTJ7JA68RAQ65CF2GVN
One in my car for my S6 Edge, one in my wife's SUV for her Note 4. Both work fantastic. They have one QC 2.0 port and one 2A port. Check it out!

Not sure whether this Car Air Conditioner Vent Mount is for you or not.

This looks like same as adaptive fast wall charger:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-LN915UBESTA
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4JGELS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Did anyone try it?

shaq1907 said:
This looks like same as adaptive fast wall charger:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-LN915UBESTA
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4JGELS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Did anyone try it?
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I bought this one. Didn't fully test yet but when I plug this, it says "fast charging". It would be better if this has light notification. But it's good that it charges fast.

Does the Mix ship with a 3.0 fast charger?

This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.

knives of ice said:
This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php

That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?

audscott said:
Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
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yes, as i posted i am well aware the phone is quick charge 3.0 capable. my question though is the charger that ships with the phone a quick charge charger. there are other xiaomi phones that are also quick charge but the user has to provide their own quick charger.
if i were to guess i do not think this charger is a quick charger based on my results compared to my nexus 6.

wu5262 said:
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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I got an Aukey QC3 5-Port Charger.
I'm trying to get my device empty right now (tough though as it lasts pretty long) and will test it afterwards.
Gesendet von meinem MIX mit Tapatalk

I compared the included charger with my Anker quick charge 3 charger using the Ampere app.
The given stats were marginally better with the included charger.
I'm not really sure what all the figures mean but they were there or there abouts the same, the Anker charger is Qualcom QC3 certified.
Not nearly getting the quoted charge times though with either charger.
At 53% it claimed 44 mins to 100%

Yes, it ships with a fast charger. It delivers:
5V - 2.5A (12,5W)
9V - 2A (18W)
12V - 1.5A (18W)
So yes, it's a QC2.0 fast charger.

I'm currently at 69% and on the normal charger it's 3 hours+, on the QC2.0 charger I have, it's 1.5 hours and it gave me the same for the included charger. Kind of disappointed that it's only 2.0.

after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.

knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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Which one? Link?

Thugsin313 said:
Which one? Link?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M11UT3V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
with a case you don't even know it is there.

Thx for the Link:good:

Yes BUT!!!... lol
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger

LormaD said:
What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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get a Pioneer Appradio that mirrors your phones screen and problem solved. now that i'm so used to it i can't imagine my phone's screen not being the screen of the head unit in my car everything is right there makes it so much easier

LormaD said:
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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I'm revising my previous post, it seems that the provided charger may indeed be a QC 3.0.
I've been reading that if you use USB-c to USB-c cable instead of the provided USB-a to USB-c cable, you actually get charge rate.
I've also been reading up on the QC 3.0 vs 2.0. Both will max out at 18watts. But 3.0 has a variable voltage whereas 2.0 is fixed at 5V, 9V and 12V. You can see that in the below link, there's a nice table of Watts for each QC.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
However with USB-C to USB-C, it can charge at full 29Watts. That's a huge difference.
you can see that in the description provided by Anker here
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO
You can also see here in this device
https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Charge-Charger-Foldable-Macbook/dp/B01I1OIO4A
it says 48W of power, and allocates 19W for QC 3.0 which means the other Type-C port is allocated for 29Watts.
So I think I'm going to be looking for something with a direct USB-C port as a charger.
Certainly, this may be all for not if the Xiaomi Mi Mix is limited to 18W of input anyways.

I have the Anker USB-C to USB-C charger, my initial testing indicate that the original charger (China Plug) and my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge charger (UK Plug) are capable of doing 23.8 Watts max, i tried to monitor the difference and what I noticed is the Mi Mix original charger seems to be adjusting the charging power more often (not really sure why and whether it's good). My Anker USB-C to USB-C went up to 28.9 Watts Max. All chargers seems to scale down their charging rate after battery reach 80%+ so I think the best way to test is to empty the better and start from 0%. I doubt I will be doing that test though as it's quite hard to empty battery on Mix and I am pretty happy with my Anker charger so don't think I will be using Stock one or my Samsung one.
Unless I go on holiday with multiple devices that still use old USB port, Anker USB-C to USB-C is my go to charger.

So I think what you confirmed was that the mix can take power at 29 watts.
That's good to know.

Just received this wireless charging receiver today that claims to do fast charge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX0Y5CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it does charge much faster, almost double of the one i posted originally in this thread. i'm getting a charge on it around 950ma which isn't too bad for wireless i don't think.

Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.

LaNsLyDe said:
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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That's what I'm using too! I was at 24% battery, went to sleep for 4 hours with it charging, and I'm only at 74%. There has to be a way to know when we quick charge lol