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PictureViewer - call for developers, designers, and beta-users

Hi all,
The idea is to create an amazing picture viewer for Android, free, open-source, and community powered. This thread is a call for Android developers, designers, and users so that we can kickstart this project.
IMO, we should start by:
1) users saying what they would like to see in a picture viewer app (in terms of UI, features, ...)
2) gathering a team of developers - everyone is welcome independent of their skill level (if you just want ot learn as we go thats great too)
3) gathering a team of designers - same as above
4) creating a few app concepts (devs and designers involved)
5) kick-off development
6) iterate the app with users feedback
So anyone (dev, designer, user) that is interested please post here the skills you are willing to contribute with, and your preferred way of communication, and project management software (IM, forum, etc)
So... what are you waiting for, get involved!
Cheers,
about me: I am the developer of RockOn (http://abrantix.org/rockon.php)

I'm in! I will be the token learner! My prefered form of contact/conversation is IM and email. I have accounts for all of the major messengers.
As for concept ideas, the ability to swipe to change picture is very high on my list. Also, as mentioned in the rock on app thread, a layout similar to the rock on layout would be nice for thumbnail viewing.

yeah, i'm happy to help out =]

I might be able to help out. Either development or testing. I prefer email, but also have Google Talk. As for project management, whatever works for everyone else works for me.

Sounds good to me. I am a C/Linux guy who dabbles in Java when he has to. I have almost no GUI skills that lead to anything besides functionality, I am an engineer. I prefer IM or group chat for lengthy design discussions.
As far as functionality I would personally like, I think the RockOn look/feel is pretty close:
Basic:
- scrolling list of thumbnails (maybe like a film roll?) while showing a larger version of the active item in the scrolling film roll
- tap any image to see full screen (best fit maximize, best fit crop, possibly scale to fit (yuck))
- auto rotate of course
- slideshow in order or random with variable delay time in seconds (1,2,5,10,15, tap only)
- optionally override screen timeout when on charger and on battery
Advanced:
- ability to rotate/delete/edit pictures
- show any picture info (mainly titles/when taken/where taken)
- transitions, possibly opengl?
- select background music playlist (which is part of why I thought RockOn was such a good fit)
- defined slideshows (like playlists for music) (maybe as easy as selecting what directories should be in this slideshow and what playlists to use for music)
- widget control to select and start/resume a slideshow (or maybe just a shortcut per slideshow?)
- show subdirectories like the built in picture viewer does? (by creating custom thumbnails)
Really out there stuff:
- integrated media station for pictures/music/movies since they can all benefit from a nice coherent GUI frontend

knoxbrder said:
Sounds good to me. I am a C/Linux guy who dabbles in Java when he has to. I have almost no GUI skills that lead to anything besides functionality, I am an engineer. I prefer IM or group chat for lengthy design discussions.
As far as functionality I would personally like, I think the RockOn look/feel is pretty close:
Basic:
- scrolling list of thumbnails (maybe like a film roll?) while showing a larger version of the active item in the scrolling film roll
- tap any image to see full screen (best fit maximize, best fit crop, possibly scale to fit (yuck))
- auto rotate of course
- slideshow in order or random with variable delay time in seconds (1,2,5,10,15, tap only)
- optionally override screen timeout when on charger and on battery
Advanced:
- ability to rotate/delete/edit pictures
- show any picture info (mainly titles/when taken/where taken)
- transitions, possibly opengl?
- select background music playlist (which is part of why I thought RockOn was such a good fit)
- defined slideshows (like playlists for music) (maybe as easy as selecting what directories should be in this slideshow and what playlists to use for music)
- widget control to select and start/resume a slideshow (or maybe just a shortcut per slideshow?)
- show subdirectories like the built in picture viewer does? (by creating custom thumbnails)
Really out there stuff:
- integrated media station for pictures/music/movies since they can all benefit from a nice coherent GUI frontend
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All very good points, I agree 100%. I'd like to add "browse pictures by swipe" to that list though, and double-tap to zoom in and double-tap-hold(xxx ms) to reset zoom.
I don't know the first thing about java/coding, but I have experience in graphical design (Android themes/icons/etc).

Unfortunately, I have so little experience with linux that I might as well know nothing and I'm going deeper C++ so no Java yet =( and no knowledge of GUI programming either) but I do have a suggestion, you could try a format similar to the ScatterView that is on Microsoft Surface, there is already source code that somewhat does this made my Luke Hutchinson for multitouch In the middle of this page If there is anything I can help with I would be more than happy to.
BTW: I prefer E-Mail/IM for communication ([email protected])

Take a look at the LOL Cats application. The picture browsing is great, left right swipt to navigate, up swipe to go to "film strip" and tap to zoom. It doesn't have all the features we'd be looking for but it would be a start. Perhaps they'd be willing to share some code.

I will be happy when any developer add multitouch (like in browser from JF )
and gesture

Alright so we have a few people interested in joining already, and nice ideas to start with. Let's schedule a date for an IRC/MSN/Skype conference to kick this off and start creating some app concepts and distributing tasks.
As for myself, I am really into animation-related stuff like rotations, translations, and 3d-like whenever possible. Id also like to add features for automatic categorization of pictures (for instance making dynamic albums by data- last week/month/6 months/whatever -, location, or even image similarity).

I will have a few hours Wed April 29, 2009 say 9pm-11pm EST.
Busy Thursday / Friday.
I will be free Sat May 2, 2009 after 6pm EST or pretty much any time Sun May 3, 2009 8am - 10pm EST.

@bjehsus, nEx.software, mannyb - Check your PMs
@knoxbrder - check you email (sent via the forums).

Ok well to help out with the project I'm trying to find out how to code the inertial movement for teh scatterview. If anyone has any ideas please E-Mail me ([email protected])
Edit: Please note that I have very little knowledge of Java so it will be in C++ syntax but should be easily translated from what I've been told

I am not a dev and can't really contribute to your work. However, please allow me to make one suggestion....
You already noted that you may wish to integrate the following:
widget control to select and start/resume a slideshow (or maybe just a shortcut per slideshow?)
I would suggest that you integrate a widget into your app. The widget could act like an table top lcd picture frame in which the photos change periodically.
Long press on the widget could open up the full app. Closing the app returns to the home screen with the widget on the screen.
Also, please make it so that the user can designate a folder for the widget, and one (+ the widget folder) for the full app. That way a user could have family photos alternating in the picture frame widget folder, but when the full app opens the user could look at all of the photos (widget file + regular file).
You would also have an icon in the app grid for those who didn't want to use the widget.
Just my $.02. I'm excited to see your progress and will be willing to be a beta tester if you want. I like to have photos of my wife as my "desktop" but, love photos in general. I've been waiting for an app like this!!
Thanks for considering these ideas.
***Note: If you consider working on the widget first you could enter the widget into the contest and then build the app after the widget. Just something to consider.***

maybe you can PM haykuro / JF to help you get the kernel for multi-touch and incorporate that into your photo viewer :]]
i would so pay for this!

shaneaus said:
I am not a dev and can't really contribute to your work. However, please allow me to make one suggestion....
You already noted that you may wish to integrate the following:
widget control to select and start/resume a slideshow (or maybe just a shortcut per slideshow?)
I would suggest that you integrate a widget into your app. The widget could act like an table top lcd picture frame in which the photos change periodically.
Long press on the widget could open up the full app. Closing the app returns to the home screen with the widget on the screen.
Also, please make it so that the user can designate a folder for the widget, and one (+ the widget folder) for the full app. That way a user could have family photos alternating in the picture frame widget folder, but when the full app opens the user could look at all of the photos (widget file + regular file).
You would also have an icon in the app grid for those who didn't want to use the widget.
Just my $.02. I'm excited to see your progress and will be willing to be a beta tester if you want. I like to have photos of my wife as my "desktop" but, love photos in general. I've been waiting for an app like this!!
Thanks for considering these ideas.
***Note: If you consider working on the widget first you could enter the widget into the contest and then build the app after the widget. Just something to consider.***
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We have a list of ideas we (and other users) would like to see, I will add this to our list, and we will see what happens
maybe you can PM haykuro / JF to help you get the kernel for multi-touch and incorporate that into your photo viewer :]]
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This is definitely in our list of wants! It may not happen right away, but we will have to see how the project plays out.

[Users Request] op3-op3T

[email protected]
Dear OnePlus,
We, OnePlus 3/3T users, have been discusing regarding software matters and an agreement has been put in place. We would like some features to be implemented for upcoming updates so that we could get the best out of our devices – as well as getting more stability on Nougat and also a better battery performance.
Our requests are as follows:
- White balance on videos.
- Scene settings (night, sunset…) in auto mode – it could help those who aren’t familiar with manual mode.
- Flash mode for the front camera – the screen should flash while taking a picture.
- Ability to pause a video and keep on recording afterwards.
- Slow motion with sound, and the ability to pick up what part you want it to be played on slow motion.
- Speed settings in Time-lapse.
- While activating the camera with a shortcut on a predefined button, it should directly shoot a picture.
- Ability to choose megapixel values on the camera app.
- Camera improvements in general, such as stabilization.
- Battery percentage inside a circle.
- Ability to choose clock position on the statusbar.
- Ability to use custom accent colours.
- Quick Settings Tiles panel should be pure black (turned off pixels), instead of grey.
- Add SIM toggle to the quick setting tiles again (it was present on Android 6.0)
- Advanced deep cleaning apps button - as we had in previous oxygen versions on Recents menu.
- More options regarding sound modes – improve alert slider options. (Perhaps add also vibration strength levels)
- Shelf improvements – more personalization, also regarding the Launcher in general.
- Activate / Deactivate mobile data on one single tap.
- Incorporate the possibility to disallow the device's powering off while being locked, somehow – increase security in some way so that it could prevent unwanted people to
perform a full wipe. Perhaps OnePlus could find a nice way to implement this idea.
- Ability to turn off notification sounds while the screen is on.
- Split volume panels.
- Ability to enable data traffic parameters on the statusbar.
- Option to either use app drawer or not.
- Add unread notifications counter on the application icons.
- Ability to set a Schedule for the Night Mode.
- Being able to choose which apps are allowed to turn on the screen in ambient display mode.
- Ability to disable the charging led.
Please, take into consideration our requests in order to make improve the community and every user experience.
Kind regards.

Cool! If we are more people, they will pay us more attention
Sended x2!

Pole and sended email.

Done! ? Thanks for the effort!!!! ?
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Cool bro. Great idea u are the man.

agree with everything:good:

I think this should be on oneplus forums rather than here
where they will atleast notice it
Or there is a Google doc they are asking customers to fill for any changes In UI.,can be filled in that too
I agree all the ideas are very good but I don't think oneplus will visit xda for these specific requests

We need 1080p, 720p video OIS too

Adding features the one plus 5!

The purpose of this thread is simple...
To discuss anything that will truly add features to our phone... As we know this is a light skinned version of stock Android
And here I will be presenting links to apps and threads and everyone can contribute... Which add features to Op5...
Not just ui customizations..... Features...
Definition of a feature...
Something which your phone does which it couldn't do before that app..
So come on guys.. Lets start...
Though I did hate the laggy TouchWiz. I did live the s pen and S note...
And honestly speaking you wll too...
Let's try and customize our Op5.. To the extent that we want to...
This thread will present a series of apps and threads links etc..
Which will help the user to truly add whatever features they want from whatever skin htc sense Samsung TouchWiz to their op5
And I am no developer so please help me out here...
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1.fooview
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fooview.android.fooview
Thai all add the air command and scrapboom like features to the phone ..
What it does....
Allows you to take custom screen shots and save content like scrapbook for later use...
It is also a over screen float like air view...
It kinda blows samsung air view out of the box... But ya note devices do have bigger screens...
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2.featured I am looking for
An action memo like on screen memo taking app..
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MacroDroid - Device Automation
MacroDroid is a powerful task automation and configuration app that focuses heavily on usability with a simple UI and logical step by step process.
Amazing UI. In my experience better than Tasker.

How about Always On AMOLED - BETA?
It's a simple app which keeps your screen on always (like MOTO devices). Nice and cool. If you pay a small amount you get an unlocked version with customization...

Loved the suggestions guys... Specially the always on amoled
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I have two minor additions I'd want added:
1. More customizable theme colors (or honestly I just want red back!)
2. Invertable color option for the system tray

TL;DR add automatic rules
I had a note 5 I loved it, unfortunately it didn't like the hot tub.. TBH I never used the pen much, but when I did it was handy, perfect for field work; snap a pic, doodle on it, send it off. Awesome! I was torn between buying a note FE or the OP5, I'm glad I stuck with OP from a 2 to a 3 to a 5. I've become a flash-a-holic.
The feature I'd love to see is "automatic rules" you can actually get access to the setting on OOS if you have nova launcher, but it just doesn't work. I'm using "#1 profile" to automatically set the phone to priority only at bed time, this shouldn't be a difficult thing for OP to add/activate to OOS.
I'd also like the old dialer, or for that matter any other dialer, swipe down to answer for me is counter intuitive. Like thumbs up thumbs down, swipe up to answer, or swipe down to reject a call.
I wish you could choose the text bubble colour in the default sms app. Like textra or Google messages (too bad they don't have a dark theme for Google messages).
A setting to switch the wireless data indicator from 4g to LTE, I'm not sure why this bugs me, but it does.

How about Tiles? Also, Virtual Hosts is excellent for setting up a root free ad block. Just download one of Steven Black's host files from GitHub and point the app to it.

Would love for buttons and gestures (especially screen off) to be able to invoke app shortcuts. Just imagine the possibilities for Tasker.

Always on display.
Notification badges on the stock launcher so I can enjoy the shelf.
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murali.tk said:
How about Always On AMOLED - BETA?
It's a simple app which keeps your screen on always (like MOTO devices). Nice and cool. If you pay a small amount you get an unlocked version with customization...
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This is a nice app and I have paid to support but the battery hit is just too much right now compared to what you get using LG or Samsung's version
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I don't understand why not a single stock ROM has long-press volume to skip track. Its such a simple feature. Its baked into every single custom ROM out there. It was there on Sony Ericsson phones (Walkman and K series). I need to get the damn phone out of the pocket, turn the screen on, unlock, open notifications shade, and press to skip a god damn song. (Not all headphones come with buttons, and not all headphones support skipping songs by multi-pressing the buttons.)

2 features I'd love added:
1. Long press back to kill app
2. Brightness slider in notification drop down. I know there is one, but you have to fully extend it to change it. My S7 had the option to place it in the first drop down.

Yeah I agree with most of you, some useful additions:
1. Badges on the Stock OP Launcher! I love it from my iPhone and sometimes forget to answer because I swyped the notification away and no badges to know there are still unread messages
2. Always On or something similar, but only if it doesn't use too much battery and no burn-in
3. Kill all apps in background with one button gesture

I'd love to see OMS commits get to OOS and probably experiment with the Kernel a bit (I know you can flash a custom, but if you'd like to stay complete stock, without unlocking). Maybe improve audio libs similar to ARISE....

How about a one-handed mode feature? That would be pretty helpful.

- Options to block QS & Power menu on secured lockscreen. (Smart Lockscreen protector app does the job, but it's service doesn't start at boot until the first unlock...)
- Skip music tracks using volume keys
- Built in Caffeine tile (the one from play store works well, but doesn't reset when turning screen off).
- Launch torch using power button long press when screen is off
- One-handed mode
- Center status bar clock

Hi guys,
1- badges for notifications. All my previous phones had this function.
2- more functions in auto mode for camera app, it's too basic for me. And in pro mode, I cannot set up the luminosity if the speed is in manual.
3- ultra power saving mode, like Samsung does, very useful when no more battery and we know no access to electricity for several hours.
4- Resize several pictures at the same time. Sometimes I need to send some pictures but the weight is too big.

1. Badges for unread msg or any notification
2. Always on
3. Camera should have more modes
4. Blurred wallpaper on lock screen

Always on clock
Ability to have status bar icons anywhere ie: signal on left
Ability to use dual cameras for wide angle
Ability to use normal USB-C to HDMI cables (not displaylink, Chromecast and wireless solutions are not fit for gaming, one of the 1+5s strongest points)
Screen off/on animation
List view animations
Full halo support
I'll think of more but that's my list of wants

Project : petition to get true fullscreen under developer options (no more black bar)

Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !!

note 10 plus fullscreen immersive
Thanks much for posting this. I'm up to as well to get this done. I have done the immersive on other Samsung phones, s9 plus, note 9. Believe it or not this was the main reason I went on to upgrade to the this phone with the main purpose of doing the ADB Commands and get it full immersive but little did I know this is not possible with the note 10 plus. it's a disgrace that Noone seems to care about this

What apps specifically don't work with full screen. Everything I use is full screen and if not I change the aspect ratio on the app settings and it works fine.

loverde74 said:
Thanks much for posting this. I'm up to as well to get this done. I have done the immersive on other Samsung phones, s9 plus, note 9. Believe it or not this was the main reason I went on to upgrade to the this phone with the main purpose of doing the ADB Commands and get it full immersive but little did I know this is not possible with the note 10 plus. it's a disgrace that Noone seems to care about this
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It is definitely possible.
Search for "notch" module in Magisk.
Install it and then go to Settings-Developer-Notch -> select last one, no cutout.
Now immersive mode will actually be full screen. Problem is, right padding needs adjusting, otherwise the status bar icons will sit underneath the camera.
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It's not like samsung dev hasn't thought about it. But they went in the end with the lesser devil, disable the whole notch bar.
The main problem being that apps will not know to go around the camera. Nor have dynamic paddings for icons and buttons.
So for example with immersive mode on (full screen, no black bar) on all apps. You will notice that almost every app has the three dotted button, icon in the corner, which will be hidden under the camera. Samsung QC will never officially allow this.
Perhaps that's why Note10, S20 and the others, have the camera in the middle. Using immersive mode, will not cover much important info, so we might see it in the future on those phones.
But as it stands, S10 (or any corner cutout phone) will not display apps correctly, hence there will never be an official fix.
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Pro tip: Instead of enabling system-wide immersive mode and get frustrated in some apps, I remember there was a paid app, granular immersive, or something. Which allow you to enable full screen only on some apps.
But Magisk notch module has to be installed in any case.

true2you said:
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !
!
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TL;DR!!!
LOL jk man
if anything is going to get this done, itll have to be a device-wide system update that will be a major PITA for Samsung. I personally believe that not having this option is a literal mistake and to correct it, theyll have to admit that it was a f**k up from the get go. Im betting that "GoodLock" is going to be our best bet to get this accomplished as it is allowed root access from Samsung and its written by Samsung, so it can allow this "personal preference" that they should have built in in the first place.
Id bug the goodlock folks. Its probably your only hope

Youdoofus said:
TL;DR!!!
LOL jk man
if anything is going to get this done, itll have to be a device-wide system update that will be a major PITA for Samsung. I personally believe that not having this option is a literal mistake and to correct it, theyll have to admit that it was a f**k up from the get go. Im betting that "GoodLock" is going to be our best bet to get this accomplished as it is allowed root access from Samsung and its written by Samsung, so it can allow this "personal preference" that they should have built in in the first place.
Id bug the goodlock folks. Its probably your only hope
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Ha, the Goodlock folks cant even update their old stuff, forget anything new.

Tel864 said:
Ha, the Goodlock folks cant even update their old stuff, forget anything new.
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sad but true. goodlock is the most likely path we have to Samsung giving us access to modding stuff we will likely ever see. Im just glad that i can change my buttons on the bottom TBH, i like having a kitty butt as my back button LOL!!

Magisk meaning you need to be rooted?
a_bolog said:
It is definitely possible.
Search for "notch" module in Magisk.
Install it and then go to Settings-Developer-Notch -> select last one, no cutout.
Now immersive mode will actually be full screen. Problem is, right padding needs adjusting, otherwise the status bar icons will sit underneath the camera.
-----
It's not like samsung dev hasn't thought about it. But they went in the end with the lesser devil, disable the whole notch bar.
The main problem being that apps will not know to go around the camera. Nor have dynamic paddings for icons and buttons.
So for example with immersive mode on (full screen, no black bar) on all apps. You will notice that almost every app has the three dotted button, icon in the corner, which will be hidden under the camera. Samsung QC will never officially allow this.
Perhaps that's why Note10, S20 and the others, have the camera in the middle. Using immersive mode, will not cover much important info, so we might see it in the future on those phones.
But as it stands, S10 (or any corner cutout phone) will not display apps correctly, hence there will never be an official fix.
-----
Pro tip: Instead of enabling system-wide immersive mode and get frustrated in some apps, I remember there was a paid app, granular immersive, or something. Which allow you to enable full screen only on some apps.
But Magisk notch module has to be installed in any case.
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Click to collapse
so magisk module meaningful I need to have my phone rooted?

...

true2you said:
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !!
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Is possible to achieve it Now. Download system UI tuner. Connect phone to laptop and execute adb commands to hide the navigation bar. Disconnect phone, go to galaxy store, download Good Lock, then open up the app then download multistar . Open multistar go to the last option to stretch The screen over the camera hole. Chose options to all.... Now go to system UI tuner and select hide navigation bar.... that's all

Few things i noticed after upgrading to Android Q

I made a post after getting pie update and now, here is an in-depth list of features of android Q in ZMP M1
all phones are not getting the same features
removing screen lock /fingerprint doesn't save you from password after update (at least it didn't work for me ) make a backup of everything in case you need to reset
list of things I'll suggest making a backup
WhatsApp chat
google photos
apps with es file explorer or any such file manager
settings + contacts+ call log+ messages from settings backup
notification led :
I like to turn it off all the rime even when charging but in android Q I couldn't find any way to disable it during charging
i was checking my old post about pie
1. Ambient Display : settings>display>advance>Ambient Display
It works only when you get a notification (its dope would like it being enabled always) though Daydream nowhere to be found.
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so ambient display is gone screensaver is back (edit: its renamed and moved to display lock screen area as new notification toggle)
volume panel:
change volume click more slider button and this is how to devolve UI it shows a big screen covering prompt to show sliders
font in developer settings only two options device default seems better
no third-party launcher supports the new gesture navigation but it is a problem on google's part
left earphone to week? there is audio balance in assessability settings
vibratin and haptic feedback in assessability
not the true dark mode in assessability settings dark theme and color inversion options are nearby enough to test what we could have got for dark mode
dark mode doesn't get turn back to a light mode in live wallpaper
assessability volume key shortcut might come in in handy for some but it makes a notification sound
there is charging sound and vibration in sound settings might want to turn it off, I have seen Samsung charging sound but Asus just makes the phone vibrate with a faint sound might scare people who don't know as it's on by default in android q
I am getting the rotate once button in navbar when autorotate is off I am using two-button navigation and a small circle when using gesture
the lockdown option to prevent unlock by any other means now also prevents notification to show can be enabled in display>lock screen display> show lockdown option
in gesture navigation you can swipe up and continue in an app to make it go smaller beyond it should go
to start android it asks for setup screen lock password it is stepping in the right direction but we should have it in kernel/bios as once entered in recovery mode anyone can reset a phone
QR code to share wifi available
still no way to monitor or block devices connected to your hotspot
default Bluetooth name QCOM-BTD Qualcomm's BLE chip?
widgets to settings shortcut there should be system UI tuner after opening it shows this funny warning message
apps notificatio>notification snoozing useless button more useless because cant see snooze option in youtube notification
battery saver got new auto turn off at 90% feature
battery picture in battery settings seems thick would prefer "ampere app" like stats in later versions
display don't have color temperature adjust
accelerated location something about data storage and data concent
high accuracy, battery saver, etc options for location not available
google play system update is 1 January 2020 please update it
security patch is 5nov 2019
privacy section is great but would like fingerprint prompt in autofill scenario as like for wifi sharing
digital wellbeing well let's skip it as I already have 18 unlocks 1 hr30 mins in the settings app and will have 4hr+ in youtube so let's skip it
verificatin code auto fill in google settings I something nice to have but also worrying
now you can directly launch apps from app info after force stopping
in about phone >emergency info> medical info you can add your profile pic and emergency contacts
dev options> picture color mode sRGB does this option even work any were?
in dark mode theme when searched in settings there is a white padding
dev options> game driver properties I don't know what it does perhaps boost graphics performance
feature flags section in dev options shows nothing except experimental (edit: these were removed in Q beta 3)
system traces have many options like pre CPU buffer and in the category, it has some tick box options and possibly CPU performance after we stop getting updates
swipe up to recent in any navigation option seem a bit too sensitive
audio seems of though I only watched youtube (Linus tech tips) so far that is without headphones
in dev options audio Bluetooth codec shows APTX HD and other option which might make Bluetooth audio great
in dev options profile HWUI seems new but not sure what it is the bars shown on-screen seems familiar
in dev options adaptive notification priority makes no difference and doesn't have any description but a quick google search shows it is supposed to make low notification priority genital
in dev options apps can be installed in external storage option
in dev options force activities resizable doesn't work in split-screen view but I may be doing something wrong
also I hate the lock icon when unlocking also there is no center icon with face/fingerprint or padlock in lock screen
in dev options wifi entending option might help in office or home to extend wifi if it works
in dev options enable freeform windows doesn't work
in dev options forced desktop scant be tested as no video output but wireless display might allow haven't tested
in dev options I enabled bubble notification will add things that can access it
in dev options auto fill section is too vague and I am not getting what anything does
in the last pie post I said
2. icons in overview/multitasking screen
Settings>apps>default apps>home app> quick setup(new name for launcher3)>home screen>home settings>change icon shape >go back to your preferred launcher.
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it is now in theming in dev options
also ambient display (not to be confused with screensaver) kicks in when getting notification while the screen is off (edit: realized after posting this Asus renamed and moved to it to display> lock screen display> new notification )
widevine changed to L3 its used to stream Amazon Prime Video, BBC, Hulu, Netflix, Spotify, and Disney+ use Widevine DRM to manage the distribution of premium content. as a college student who has no job and already has to spend money on Jio internet I don't have any above-mentioned subscriptions and if you do use any services according to other beta testers you won't be supposably able to access them while in beta.
camera app
in pro mode no shutter speed control option
max iso in pro mode is 1600 like in HMD global camera
auto video encoder is h264
portrait mode has extremely bad edge detection
night mode isn't that good
no fps option for video like 24,25,29.98,30,60 fps etc
no raw support in stock camera app resulting in assumption camera2api isn't enabled by default, though I enabled it in pie and it carried forward maybe so I am not sure.
it is a bit long but if you are reading this then thanks for reading till the end I'll format the whole thing later

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There's really no option for notification led,
You get wake display for new notifications in lock screen display
I don't like that either its ugly pie sliders were better.
Is that even important fonts are fonts and generally no aosp thing gets custom font support and Google sans are for pixel things. Idk about which fonts will our phone get.
Third party launchers will work after December android security patch builds.
Dark mode is in display options and works good.
I don't know what dark theme and wallpaper have to do.
The srgb thing works but android or its apps aren't made to use srgb colors default is rgb which is used by most of the web.
Feature flags were removed by Google in beta 3 of Android 10.
Force activities resizable makes apps which don't work or don't allow split screen (insta) are made to be opened in split screen.
Enabling free form works and can be accessed from recent apps screen - click the app icon - open in free form. (don't know how you tested it)
Auto fill helps in password managers to fill in usernames and passwords.
It's in wake display also same to your missing ambient display.
Other things I've left are either too much to explain / really broken / I don't care of those since I don't use it.
Widevine has changed to l3 you didn't notice.
Sound output isn't very great it'll be fixed in next build I've reported that to asus.

There's really no option for notification led,
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it is named as blink light there is a way to just turn it off but it still lights up when the phone is turned on which previously in the android pie it didn't
You get wake display for new notifications in lock screen display
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I realized it too late going to edit it in
I don't like that either its ugly pie sliders were better.
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the only good news I have is while in a call it shows call slider normally.
Is that even important fonts are fonts and generally no aosp thing gets custom font support and Google sans are for pixel things. Idk about which fonts will our phone get.
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no it isn't that important but I thought that it's interesting and the options are:
device default.
noto serif/ Source Sans Pro.
Third party launchers will work after December android security patch builds
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You are talking about gesture navigation, right? Teslacoilapps says this.
Dark mode is in display options and works good.
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Like the official Reddit app has a dark modeand AMOLED dark mode. the difference is #333943 and #000000. The dark mode is not truly dark but gray.
I don't know what dark theme and wallpaper have to do.
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In Android pie when you set the theme to dark mode and use live wallpaper it uses auto revert back to light mode now it doesn't.
The srgb thing works but android or its apps aren't made to use srgb colors default is rgb which is used by most of the web.
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nowadays phones are getting so powerful and people can take great pictures so shouldn't sRGB be enabled by default? like it does help semi-professional photo editing if we get a bit more color accuracy.
Feature flags were removed by Google in beta 3 of Android 10.
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I didn't know that, but now I do. Thanks for that.
Force activities resizable makes apps which don't work or don't allow split screen (insta) are made to be opened in split screen.
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My bad, I thought it allowed resizing the split-screen apps like increasing the top window while decreasing the bottom one
Enabling free form works and can be accessed from recent apps screen - click the app icon - open in free form. (don't know how you tested it)
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Samsung has a float window feature like actual windows pc like windows I thought it was like that feature i tried it as you mentioned but didn't get results i was expected
Auto fill helps in password managers to fill in usernames and passwords.
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I think this is about this line
in dev options auto fill section is too vague and I am not getting what anything does
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My question is what is
logging level
off
debug
verbose what does these mean
max request per session (it's just a field to enter a number what does it control)
max visible datasets (it's just a field to enter a number what does it control)
It's in wake display also same to your missing ambient display.
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I found it after posting this thread and didn’t get a chance to update it.
Other things I've left are either too much to explain / really broken / I don't care of those since I don't use it.
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things are too much to explain / broken but I like to deeply analyze things and couldn't find an in-depth bug list while thinking whether I should get in beta so after upgrading I made one. it has some errors but I am working on it
Widevine has changed to l3 you didn't notice.
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that's something related to Netflix i don't have an account so wasn't able to notice it, though I saw it mentioned it in Asus forums
Sound output isn't very great it'll be fixed in next build I've reported that to asus.
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I saw this problem also mentioned in the forums and I asked my friends if my phone sounds different and didn't got any negative report also I watched youtube for 4hrs on Thursday and didn't heard any difference

Would be interested to know how to turn off the lock screen. Lock screen none does not appear as an option.
Regards.

Gestures are enabled by Google after December security patch nova / most other launchers work with gestures. You can however use 2 button and 3 button navigation perfectly.
About that dark and black mode difference we don't have an amoled or led display it's an lcd so it won't make difference in battery but kind of personal choice. I like dark more than black.
The thing about wallpaper and dark thing - in android 9 dark/light theme was set by wallpaper color so live wallpapers needed to support color picker api to tell the device to keep light or dark theme. (it was half broken by asus as selecting dark theme should've disabled the api completely, but using pixel default live wallpapers they had that api so dark mode worked with them).
That srgb was being considered by Google they dropped it as it broke a lot of the things.
You can resize top and bottom windows just hold the middle line in centre and drag it where you want to put it. (I use 400 dpi so I get more steps).
It's because that feature is intended towards large screen tablets or foldables and Samsung made their own thing, (the free form window thing).
It's for devs making password manager apps or autofill apps those people need it for debugging, the logging levels are to make reports to find bugs, the max request is how many times in one field the autofill will attempt to fill in credentials. The max visible dataset is if you have multiple accounts to one app (take Gmail as example) so while trying to autofill it lists all of available accounts to show (I'm not an expert in this so I maybe wrong if needed confirm that.
About sound issue it is very real and use some good quality earphones or compare side by side with 060 running device.