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Impression.

I just used the phone for half a day and thoroughly enjoy it. On first impression, the phone is very light for the size and they give nice accessories considering the price; earphones, screen protector, case. The phone have an RGB notification light.
Interface:
-The interface is not stock Android, it's more like a modified version of MIUI. It's very usable once you install your choice of stock launcher, replace the default keyboard, and disable some of the bloat apps.
-Since it's not stock Android, I find it take a bit of time to get used to finding things in the Settings menu.
-The swipe up hardware toggles (Control center, similar to iPhone toggles) are pretty useful and more well organized than stock Android imo.
-Screen off gestures, you get many different commands (double tap on, camera, flashlight, customize your own, etc) and it work pretty good.
-Feature to display network speed on the notification bar
-"Close all" button in the recent apps menu.
-There is a feature to modify apps permissions called "Permissions of App".
-I can not find the shortcut to "Smart Lock" window anywhere, even though it is supported in the OS, if you pair a bluetooth device it will display the notification to enable it. But there seems to be no way to get to the actual Smart Lock window to enable other smart lock features, or I miss it somewhere.
Performance:
I installed all my programs pretty quick. I don't see any lag issues. All the apps launches fast and run smoothly. I don't intend to play any heavy games on a $100 phone, all the light games I play like Subway Surfer and Horizon Chase have no lags.
Connection:
Cell: The dual sim feature seems to work good. I still have to to test the signal quality, but I have to say the data speed is average. I get about 10 to 12mbps down for T-Mobile LTE speed test.
Bluetooth: I'm happy to report the Bluetooth have good performance, the motion of people lips in videos are in synced with the audio from the bluetooth speaker.
WiFi: Can reach high speed, no problem.
GPS: No problem.
Storage:
There is a strange quirk with the phone which is by default your microSD is acts as the main 'internal storage' of the phone (sdcard0), and the actual internal storage act as external (sdcard1). So it would help if you use a fast microSD. I think this is because I have the microSD inserted the first time I set up the phone. Maybe this problem can be prevented by not inserting the microSD for the first time you boot up the phone. I don't know, but I'll just live with it.
Display:
The screen is very nice for a 5.5" 720p AMOLED display. It's not going to be sharp, but it the pixels are smooth so you don't get so much of that pixelation effect. Pretty much deep black, saturated colors and good viewing angles you expect from AMOLED. It's definitely not the brightest of display though, so you might have some problem under direct sunlight.
Camera: I haven't used it too much, but it's pretty average. Like all lower end camera, it have issue with under/over exposure, also the white balance is really off on auto mode. I like the manual mode that let you control the ISO and shutter speed. It's no where bad in good lighting condition, I'd say it takes good enough details for a budget phone.
Speaker: Very average, don't expect much here.
Charging: I used my Anker quick charger and it seems to charge the device fast and safely.
Ringtones selection:
The only thing I don't like is that if you have music in your phone, when you go to change the default ringtones, it will display every single songs in your phone and you have to scroll through it. The way to remedy this is to use the file manager in the phone and create a file called ".nomedia" in your music folder, so the phone will not recognize songs in it. Once you set your desired ringtone, you can remove that file. Or you can simply use a third party app to do the job.
Aside from some quirks, I honestly have no complaints so far, I would have no problem paying the full $150 for this device. I definitely like it better than the Moto G3, except that Motorola phones tends to have superior signals and call quality compared to most other brands. I definitely will not use this phone without a case though since it's on the light side.

Couple of things I noticed
1. The navigation buttons at the bottom (Home, Back & Option) does not have backlight. Not sure if there is a LED there that can be enabled in settings. I couldn't find any setting for that.
2. The data connection drops from 4G LTE to 'H' (HSPA) when on a call.

One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.

Here are some photo samples. The main problem are over exposure, white balance detection and some lost of saturation. The quality suffers when you're indoor with less lights.
https://goo.gl/photos/j9BrJ7gcbDCXBQgD6

The LED notification light seem like its set a ways under the glass and has this really bright shining affect versus a little glow other devices have.
I must say, the amoled screen on this is quite impressive for $100 phone..
wifi and data speeds are very similar compared to my oneplus 2 (both running Tmobile)

I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.

hamilLewiston said:
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
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just use another launcher. google now, nova

eksasol said:
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
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The smart lock is really baffling. It prompts to turn on smart lock but never works after that.

tlxxxsracer said:
just use another launcher. google now, nova
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thanks, that's what i finally did

so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.

I've been using the Honor 5X a bit today so here is a comparison.
Things I prefer on the Vivo XL:
-This is a faster device. Everything about the Blu is more responsive and I don't think it's down to just the 720p display. It seems that this Mediatek CPU is actually pretty decent, games are smoother on it as well. In comparison, Honor 5X is slightly sluggy, not just in the interface, but in apps as well. This is probably due to the EMUI OS on the Honor 5X.
-Blu's UI is actually easier to understand and getting used to, especially if you're not accustomed to MIUI style interface on the Honor 5X.
-I'm not sure if it's due to the screen protector preinstalled on the Honor 5X, but the Blu touchscreen is a bit more sensitive and responsive to touch. Though it's not bad on the Honor 5X.
-The slide up "Control Panel" on the Blu is more useful with lots of options. Hate to admit it, but I prefer this slide up behavior more than Android's default because it's faster being close to your thumb. The notification toggles for the Honor 5X is missing a few options, but not a big deal.
-Blu is thinner and more light weight.
-The USB Type C connector is god sent.
-Removable battery.
Prefer on the 5X:
-Sharper screen that is very bright, its actually brighter than some highend flagship devices. The viewing angle isn't great however, but that is non-problem because it's a phone, not a TV.
-The camera is (only) slightly better. It have a bit more details and much better handle at white balance. Although the Blu camera's tap to focus is faster and more responsive. At this price range, it's not a big difference between the two phones.
-While their EMUI interface takes time to learn, it have some useful features, such as network control for apps. This let you disable data or wifi access for any apps you want, which is a very useful security feature.
-Very nice metal body.
-Finger print scanner, which I don't use.
It's a bit hard to choose which phone I would use as the daily driver. I think that if you go with the Blu, the software is good enough that you don't need to install custom roms. If you go with the Honor 5X, I believe you will need to install custom roms if you want the most out of the performance. I would have to pick the Blu Vivo XL as better value for the money, since it performs better for $50 less, and may last longer due to removable battery and USB Type C connector (more durable than microUSB). Also I like it when companies throw in free phone case and headphones, which is lacking in the Honor 5X packaging.

hamilLewiston said:
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
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wheres the guide?

Thanks you for this app

What WE want in the next Community Build! Posted on 10/24/16

We begin with a premise. We are a facebook group that has as its object the OnePlus3 (The group name’s is OnePlus3/3T ITA). We decided to collect our ideas to suggest to you what OnePlus Developer should add to our device to make it perfect.
This is the suggestion list that we hope you will implement. Many of these requests want to be implemented as a possibility of choice. When you buy a OnePlus you want to have more liberty of customization.
HOME CUSTOMIZATION:
1- A better weather application:
- more information (such as Google Now or Windows 10 PC-style)
- a better widget on shelf bar*!
*I now that i can tap on the top to open weather application but it would be nice see a greater integration with more information.
2- Ability to have another swipe from right to left to access to the news of google now (after the shell).
3- Ability to access to the app drawer as the new Pixels Launcher with a swipe from bottom to top.
4- A package of circular icons.
5- Being able to change the display grid of apps in the app drawer and the home.
6- Ability to remove the drawer and leave all apps in the home (such as iOS or Miui).
HARDWARE BUTTON:
7- Ability to set the lateral slider as follows: ringer, vibrate, silent (Also this based on the choice of people. Just put a simple option in the settings).
8- One handed mode with a swipe on central button touch.
CAMERA:
9- Frontal Flash with the use of screen brightness. We need this feature for selfie during night or dark place.
10- Manual mode during video.
11- Ability to record video in HDR mode.
12- Slow Motion with audio.
13- A best correction of the white balance in manual mode with a slider (as LgG4 or LgG5).
OTHER REQUEST:
14- A Toggle for the pocket mode (switch on/off).
15- Enter to the clock app by clicking on the time in the bar of the expanded notifications.
16- Ability to personalize the night mode with different screen temperatures. Like “twilight” app.
18- Quick access to the battery from the notification bar as in the version 3.2.X.
19- Ability to set the background of the app and the notifications bar completely BLACK (not only dark grey. That is not nice).
20- Integration of an energy saving system that would limit the use of the CPU without affecting the application synchronization and data in the background.
Even an "ultra power saving mode" as on Galaxy s6/s7 would be very nice.
21- Ability to zoom the video in the playback phase (as on LgG4 and G5) with a simple "pinch to zoom". This is a COOL FEATURE.
22- Always On function.
All of us in the facebook group OnePlus3/3T ITA want to thank OnePlus and his team for the way they are working on our terminal. We also hope that these requirements listed above will be upheld in positve way.
THANK YOU
P.S: If you (that you're not part of the facebook group) share these ideas, copy them and put them in the last question ("Do you have any advice that we can use to improve the next beta builds? Please describe in detail") of the feedback of CB 3.5.4.

All I want is for oneplus to open up their camera to third party devs... CM14 is better than anything oneplus has been able to offer, but we need a better camera!
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

This is a trascription of a Carl Pei's interview to XDA's community : "We want to, and we’ve been talking about internally. So there’s a challenge with the camera because if we want a blob, then there are two major challenges. The first one being, the code relating to the camera is on a lot of layers, so you have something related to the camera on the framework level, something on the Android level, something on a system level. So we’re gonna have to rewrite a lot of code to be able to separate it in a way that allows us to blob it. And the second reason is, if we were to blob it the result is that the speed will suffer, so the speed of the camera UX on custom ROMs will suffer. We’re still trying to figure out a way of how we can release something that will help people improve the camera in their custom ROMs without making the experience become too bad. And we don’t want something with our logo to have a poor experience either. So it is going to be a little bit harder than we thought, but we’ve been discussing this"

bludestiny said:
This is a trascription of a Carl Pei's interview to XDA's community...
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Looks like they should have made it more developer friendly from the beginning. Did they honestly think that nobody would be using custom ROMS?
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

Also, notification badges in oxygen launcher. Not the nova launcher workaround.

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Also, notification badges in oxygen launcher. Not the nova launcher workaround.
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X1.000.000 on this

Also, ability to have different sound level Calls and Notifications

Ability to hide apps in app drawer and make folders.
And private mode in gallery, working with fingerprint would be nice.
Different sound levels for calls and notifications.
Always on display which consumes just a little battery

For me the one trivial thing that really should be addressed are those awful accent colors. Especially for the dark theme.
The palette used is so pale! Except for the green and the sky blue I don't think anyone really likes the others. They really should change those to Material Design colors or atleast give the option to customize.

1. The most important !!! I want to be able to instal any rom without reflashing recovery, firmware or anyting else.
2. I want to set Finger print to lock/unlock screen without any pass or pattern, that means to work everytime.
3. Camera to make Macro photos.

Things I don't like about the Mate 10. What's yours?

1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.

Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)

I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.

For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...

tboy2000 said:
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?

jemeljsh said:
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.

For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button

otonieru said:
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:

snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture

I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?

maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.

Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)

maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.

I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens

windozeanti said:
Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.

Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size

I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.

focacciabread said:
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.

The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.

Project : petition to get true fullscreen under developer options (no more black bar)

Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !!

note 10 plus fullscreen immersive
Thanks much for posting this. I'm up to as well to get this done. I have done the immersive on other Samsung phones, s9 plus, note 9. Believe it or not this was the main reason I went on to upgrade to the this phone with the main purpose of doing the ADB Commands and get it full immersive but little did I know this is not possible with the note 10 plus. it's a disgrace that Noone seems to care about this

What apps specifically don't work with full screen. Everything I use is full screen and if not I change the aspect ratio on the app settings and it works fine.

loverde74 said:
Thanks much for posting this. I'm up to as well to get this done. I have done the immersive on other Samsung phones, s9 plus, note 9. Believe it or not this was the main reason I went on to upgrade to the this phone with the main purpose of doing the ADB Commands and get it full immersive but little did I know this is not possible with the note 10 plus. it's a disgrace that Noone seems to care about this
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It is definitely possible.
Search for "notch" module in Magisk.
Install it and then go to Settings-Developer-Notch -> select last one, no cutout.
Now immersive mode will actually be full screen. Problem is, right padding needs adjusting, otherwise the status bar icons will sit underneath the camera.
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It's not like samsung dev hasn't thought about it. But they went in the end with the lesser devil, disable the whole notch bar.
The main problem being that apps will not know to go around the camera. Nor have dynamic paddings for icons and buttons.
So for example with immersive mode on (full screen, no black bar) on all apps. You will notice that almost every app has the three dotted button, icon in the corner, which will be hidden under the camera. Samsung QC will never officially allow this.
Perhaps that's why Note10, S20 and the others, have the camera in the middle. Using immersive mode, will not cover much important info, so we might see it in the future on those phones.
But as it stands, S10 (or any corner cutout phone) will not display apps correctly, hence there will never be an official fix.
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Pro tip: Instead of enabling system-wide immersive mode and get frustrated in some apps, I remember there was a paid app, granular immersive, or something. Which allow you to enable full screen only on some apps.
But Magisk notch module has to be installed in any case.

true2you said:
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !
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TL;DR!!!
LOL jk man
if anything is going to get this done, itll have to be a device-wide system update that will be a major PITA for Samsung. I personally believe that not having this option is a literal mistake and to correct it, theyll have to admit that it was a f**k up from the get go. Im betting that "GoodLock" is going to be our best bet to get this accomplished as it is allowed root access from Samsung and its written by Samsung, so it can allow this "personal preference" that they should have built in in the first place.
Id bug the goodlock folks. Its probably your only hope

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TL;DR!!!
LOL jk man
if anything is going to get this done, itll have to be a device-wide system update that will be a major PITA for Samsung. I personally believe that not having this option is a literal mistake and to correct it, theyll have to admit that it was a f**k up from the get go. Im betting that "GoodLock" is going to be our best bet to get this accomplished as it is allowed root access from Samsung and its written by Samsung, so it can allow this "personal preference" that they should have built in in the first place.
Id bug the goodlock folks. Its probably your only hope
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Ha, the Goodlock folks cant even update their old stuff, forget anything new.

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Ha, the Goodlock folks cant even update their old stuff, forget anything new.
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sad but true. goodlock is the most likely path we have to Samsung giving us access to modding stuff we will likely ever see. Im just glad that i can change my buttons on the bottom TBH, i like having a kitty butt as my back button LOL!!

Magisk meaning you need to be rooted?
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It is definitely possible.
Search for "notch" module in Magisk.
Install it and then go to Settings-Developer-Notch -> select last one, no cutout.
Now immersive mode will actually be full screen. Problem is, right padding needs adjusting, otherwise the status bar icons will sit underneath the camera.
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It's not like samsung dev hasn't thought about it. But they went in the end with the lesser devil, disable the whole notch bar.
The main problem being that apps will not know to go around the camera. Nor have dynamic paddings for icons and buttons.
So for example with immersive mode on (full screen, no black bar) on all apps. You will notice that almost every app has the three dotted button, icon in the corner, which will be hidden under the camera. Samsung QC will never officially allow this.
Perhaps that's why Note10, S20 and the others, have the camera in the middle. Using immersive mode, will not cover much important info, so we might see it in the future on those phones.
But as it stands, S10 (or any corner cutout phone) will not display apps correctly, hence there will never be an official fix.
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Pro tip: Instead of enabling system-wide immersive mode and get frustrated in some apps, I remember there was a paid app, granular immersive, or something. Which allow you to enable full screen only on some apps.
But Magisk notch module has to be installed in any case.
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so magisk module meaningful I need to have my phone rooted?

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true2you said:
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !!
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Is possible to achieve it Now. Download system UI tuner. Connect phone to laptop and execute adb commands to hide the navigation bar. Disconnect phone, go to galaxy store, download Good Lock, then open up the app then download multistar . Open multistar go to the last option to stretch The screen over the camera hole. Chose options to all.... Now go to system UI tuner and select hide navigation bar.... that's all

Few things i noticed after upgrading to Android Q

I made a post after getting pie update and now, here is an in-depth list of features of android Q in ZMP M1
all phones are not getting the same features
removing screen lock /fingerprint doesn't save you from password after update (at least it didn't work for me ) make a backup of everything in case you need to reset
list of things I'll suggest making a backup
WhatsApp chat
google photos
apps with es file explorer or any such file manager
settings + contacts+ call log+ messages from settings backup
notification led :
I like to turn it off all the rime even when charging but in android Q I couldn't find any way to disable it during charging
i was checking my old post about pie
1. Ambient Display : settings>display>advance>Ambient Display
It works only when you get a notification (its dope would like it being enabled always) though Daydream nowhere to be found.
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so ambient display is gone screensaver is back (edit: its renamed and moved to display lock screen area as new notification toggle)
volume panel:
change volume click more slider button and this is how to devolve UI it shows a big screen covering prompt to show sliders
font in developer settings only two options device default seems better
no third-party launcher supports the new gesture navigation but it is a problem on google's part
left earphone to week? there is audio balance in assessability settings
vibratin and haptic feedback in assessability
not the true dark mode in assessability settings dark theme and color inversion options are nearby enough to test what we could have got for dark mode
dark mode doesn't get turn back to a light mode in live wallpaper
assessability volume key shortcut might come in in handy for some but it makes a notification sound
there is charging sound and vibration in sound settings might want to turn it off, I have seen Samsung charging sound but Asus just makes the phone vibrate with a faint sound might scare people who don't know as it's on by default in android q
I am getting the rotate once button in navbar when autorotate is off I am using two-button navigation and a small circle when using gesture
the lockdown option to prevent unlock by any other means now also prevents notification to show can be enabled in display>lock screen display> show lockdown option
in gesture navigation you can swipe up and continue in an app to make it go smaller beyond it should go
to start android it asks for setup screen lock password it is stepping in the right direction but we should have it in kernel/bios as once entered in recovery mode anyone can reset a phone
QR code to share wifi available
still no way to monitor or block devices connected to your hotspot
default Bluetooth name QCOM-BTD Qualcomm's BLE chip?
widgets to settings shortcut there should be system UI tuner after opening it shows this funny warning message
apps notificatio>notification snoozing useless button more useless because cant see snooze option in youtube notification
battery saver got new auto turn off at 90% feature
battery picture in battery settings seems thick would prefer "ampere app" like stats in later versions
display don't have color temperature adjust
accelerated location something about data storage and data concent
high accuracy, battery saver, etc options for location not available
google play system update is 1 January 2020 please update it
security patch is 5nov 2019
privacy section is great but would like fingerprint prompt in autofill scenario as like for wifi sharing
digital wellbeing well let's skip it as I already have 18 unlocks 1 hr30 mins in the settings app and will have 4hr+ in youtube so let's skip it
verificatin code auto fill in google settings I something nice to have but also worrying
now you can directly launch apps from app info after force stopping
in about phone >emergency info> medical info you can add your profile pic and emergency contacts
dev options> picture color mode sRGB does this option even work any were?
in dark mode theme when searched in settings there is a white padding
dev options> game driver properties I don't know what it does perhaps boost graphics performance
feature flags section in dev options shows nothing except experimental (edit: these were removed in Q beta 3)
system traces have many options like pre CPU buffer and in the category, it has some tick box options and possibly CPU performance after we stop getting updates
swipe up to recent in any navigation option seem a bit too sensitive
audio seems of though I only watched youtube (Linus tech tips) so far that is without headphones
in dev options audio Bluetooth codec shows APTX HD and other option which might make Bluetooth audio great
in dev options profile HWUI seems new but not sure what it is the bars shown on-screen seems familiar
in dev options adaptive notification priority makes no difference and doesn't have any description but a quick google search shows it is supposed to make low notification priority genital
in dev options apps can be installed in external storage option
in dev options force activities resizable doesn't work in split-screen view but I may be doing something wrong
also I hate the lock icon when unlocking also there is no center icon with face/fingerprint or padlock in lock screen
in dev options wifi entending option might help in office or home to extend wifi if it works
in dev options enable freeform windows doesn't work
in dev options forced desktop scant be tested as no video output but wireless display might allow haven't tested
in dev options I enabled bubble notification will add things that can access it
in dev options auto fill section is too vague and I am not getting what anything does
in the last pie post I said
2. icons in overview/multitasking screen
Settings>apps>default apps>home app> quick setup(new name for launcher3)>home screen>home settings>change icon shape >go back to your preferred launcher.
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it is now in theming in dev options
also ambient display (not to be confused with screensaver) kicks in when getting notification while the screen is off (edit: realized after posting this Asus renamed and moved to it to display> lock screen display> new notification )
widevine changed to L3 its used to stream Amazon Prime Video, BBC, Hulu, Netflix, Spotify, and Disney+ use Widevine DRM to manage the distribution of premium content. as a college student who has no job and already has to spend money on Jio internet I don't have any above-mentioned subscriptions and if you do use any services according to other beta testers you won't be supposably able to access them while in beta.
camera app
in pro mode no shutter speed control option
max iso in pro mode is 1600 like in HMD global camera
auto video encoder is h264
portrait mode has extremely bad edge detection
night mode isn't that good
no fps option for video like 24,25,29.98,30,60 fps etc
no raw support in stock camera app resulting in assumption camera2api isn't enabled by default, though I enabled it in pie and it carried forward maybe so I am not sure.
it is a bit long but if you are reading this then thanks for reading till the end I'll format the whole thing later

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There's really no option for notification led,
You get wake display for new notifications in lock screen display
I don't like that either its ugly pie sliders were better.
Is that even important fonts are fonts and generally no aosp thing gets custom font support and Google sans are for pixel things. Idk about which fonts will our phone get.
Third party launchers will work after December android security patch builds.
Dark mode is in display options and works good.
I don't know what dark theme and wallpaper have to do.
The srgb thing works but android or its apps aren't made to use srgb colors default is rgb which is used by most of the web.
Feature flags were removed by Google in beta 3 of Android 10.
Force activities resizable makes apps which don't work or don't allow split screen (insta) are made to be opened in split screen.
Enabling free form works and can be accessed from recent apps screen - click the app icon - open in free form. (don't know how you tested it)
Auto fill helps in password managers to fill in usernames and passwords.
It's in wake display also same to your missing ambient display.
Other things I've left are either too much to explain / really broken / I don't care of those since I don't use it.
Widevine has changed to l3 you didn't notice.
Sound output isn't very great it'll be fixed in next build I've reported that to asus.

There's really no option for notification led,
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it is named as blink light there is a way to just turn it off but it still lights up when the phone is turned on which previously in the android pie it didn't
You get wake display for new notifications in lock screen display
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I realized it too late going to edit it in
I don't like that either its ugly pie sliders were better.
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the only good news I have is while in a call it shows call slider normally.
Is that even important fonts are fonts and generally no aosp thing gets custom font support and Google sans are for pixel things. Idk about which fonts will our phone get.
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no it isn't that important but I thought that it's interesting and the options are:
device default.
noto serif/ Source Sans Pro.
Third party launchers will work after December android security patch builds
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You are talking about gesture navigation, right? Teslacoilapps says this.
Dark mode is in display options and works good.
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Like the official Reddit app has a dark modeand AMOLED dark mode. the difference is #333943 and #000000. The dark mode is not truly dark but gray.
I don't know what dark theme and wallpaper have to do.
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In Android pie when you set the theme to dark mode and use live wallpaper it uses auto revert back to light mode now it doesn't.
The srgb thing works but android or its apps aren't made to use srgb colors default is rgb which is used by most of the web.
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nowadays phones are getting so powerful and people can take great pictures so shouldn't sRGB be enabled by default? like it does help semi-professional photo editing if we get a bit more color accuracy.
Feature flags were removed by Google in beta 3 of Android 10.
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I didn't know that, but now I do. Thanks for that.
Force activities resizable makes apps which don't work or don't allow split screen (insta) are made to be opened in split screen.
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My bad, I thought it allowed resizing the split-screen apps like increasing the top window while decreasing the bottom one
Enabling free form works and can be accessed from recent apps screen - click the app icon - open in free form. (don't know how you tested it)
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Samsung has a float window feature like actual windows pc like windows I thought it was like that feature i tried it as you mentioned but didn't get results i was expected
Auto fill helps in password managers to fill in usernames and passwords.
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I think this is about this line
in dev options auto fill section is too vague and I am not getting what anything does
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My question is what is
logging level
off
debug
verbose what does these mean
max request per session (it's just a field to enter a number what does it control)
max visible datasets (it's just a field to enter a number what does it control)
It's in wake display also same to your missing ambient display.
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I found it after posting this thread and didn’t get a chance to update it.
Other things I've left are either too much to explain / really broken / I don't care of those since I don't use it.
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things are too much to explain / broken but I like to deeply analyze things and couldn't find an in-depth bug list while thinking whether I should get in beta so after upgrading I made one. it has some errors but I am working on it
Widevine has changed to l3 you didn't notice.
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that's something related to Netflix i don't have an account so wasn't able to notice it, though I saw it mentioned it in Asus forums
Sound output isn't very great it'll be fixed in next build I've reported that to asus.
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I saw this problem also mentioned in the forums and I asked my friends if my phone sounds different and didn't got any negative report also I watched youtube for 4hrs on Thursday and didn't heard any difference

Would be interested to know how to turn off the lock screen. Lock screen none does not appear as an option.
Regards.

Gestures are enabled by Google after December security patch nova / most other launchers work with gestures. You can however use 2 button and 3 button navigation perfectly.
About that dark and black mode difference we don't have an amoled or led display it's an lcd so it won't make difference in battery but kind of personal choice. I like dark more than black.
The thing about wallpaper and dark thing - in android 9 dark/light theme was set by wallpaper color so live wallpapers needed to support color picker api to tell the device to keep light or dark theme. (it was half broken by asus as selecting dark theme should've disabled the api completely, but using pixel default live wallpapers they had that api so dark mode worked with them).
That srgb was being considered by Google they dropped it as it broke a lot of the things.
You can resize top and bottom windows just hold the middle line in centre and drag it where you want to put it. (I use 400 dpi so I get more steps).
It's because that feature is intended towards large screen tablets or foldables and Samsung made their own thing, (the free form window thing).
It's for devs making password manager apps or autofill apps those people need it for debugging, the logging levels are to make reports to find bugs, the max request is how many times in one field the autofill will attempt to fill in credentials. The max visible dataset is if you have multiple accounts to one app (take Gmail as example) so while trying to autofill it lists all of available accounts to show (I'm not an expert in this so I maybe wrong if needed confirm that.
About sound issue it is very real and use some good quality earphones or compare side by side with 060 running device.