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Since everybody seems to upbeat about the Nexus 4, here some things that REALLY piss me off.
For reference, I am coming from a DEFY / CM9 and have at the same time here a new HTC One S / CM10. And then there would be a Nexus 7, and a Kindle Fire / CM10/SGT7.
Why on earth couldn't they have the normal buttons on the bottom, and instead needed to waste precious screen real estate ? I do understand that a 7 inch tablet needs that as it's turned between landscape and portrait. But for a phone ... After all there is space on the device, which is unused now ...
This little microSIM tray is nifty. Especially if you are at an airport, just bought the prepaid microSIM and try to put it in. You have the tool with you, right ?
The new and improved camera app stinks like heck. The device support ISO settings, different focus modi, red-eye removal ... the works. But the default application fails to expose ANY of that. I cannot even set the JPEG quality level ... EPIC fail.
Tried to use 720p video recording ? 22fps stuttering ...
Lockscreen widgets ... why on earth would I want to have that ? And why couldn't there just be a simply settings entry to disable that ? (yes, I know that there is now an app out there that gets rid of it ...)
The good old clock. Nice work. Tons of features. Way too many. Why split this over-engineered mess into "Alarm" and "Watch" and whatever ?
Battery drain ... Looks like a lot of the new features (some which I cannot uninstall per default) are sucking up processor time, like the "Mediaserver" (got the same apps/settings as on CM9/CM10, where this does not happen).
This new pulldown quick settings is nifty. Takes me now 2 clicks and one slide to toggle wireless ... much improved over the one-click toggle in CM9/CM10 (and HTC Sense, and TouchWhiz, and ...).
Overall I feel that 4.2 is a step back from 4.1, because every new feature that should make up 4.2 seems to be more in the way than anything else. The toy needs sooo urgently CM10 it's not even funny.

I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?

To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.

Why does... does... do you guys smell apples? I swear I think I do.

TheFiveDots said:
The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was [...] and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent
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What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)

Instead of whinning about it why not try to do something about it.
Sent from Arkham

Yeah stop moaning and send it back.
Why keep a phone that "pisses" you off so much...

U mad bro?
Early adopter and complaining (very mad) that there are some updates needed............silly
Maybe u should sell it on eBay and make some money?
Or better......sell it to one of the great devs that are waiting for a device!!!!!!
Sent from my GT-I9450

muspel said:
What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
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Yes. I have. Thanks for your assumptions though. Despite your "cringing", Apple's implementation of a dynamic "back button" at the top-left of nearly every iOS app is much more consistent and predictable.
On Android, sometimes the back button takes you back to the screen you were on previously on the same level, sometimes it takes you up a level, and sometimes it closes the app which is always surprising and annoying if you were not aware you were already at the root level. The home button closes an app, the back button doesn't need to. Google is even well aware of this unpredictably and has gone as far to draw up guidelines as to how it should be implemented, but many developers choose to ignore it.
Unpredictable behavior is bad UX design, plain and simple. Having a place in-app that takes you back and a hardware/software button that does the same is also redundant and unnecessary. Navigating an app should be natural and intuitive and all within the app, in my opinion. Hardware/software keys should be reserved for OS-level tasks like Home, Task Switching, etc.
I agree the software buttons are the best choice, but it would be nice to see them implemented in a much more dynamic and space-saving way.

The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.

TheFiveDots said:
To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
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Yes, I was thinking that the merged tablet interface would be a cool idea for the "Nexus 4". With CM10/SGT7 on the KF you also get a nicer notification panel, which might be reasonable for a device of this size.

MonsieurJohnny said:
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
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Doesn't work. Paperclip is too big for that one (at least the 3 different ones I tried).

woody296 said:
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
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Actually I might do (or simply return it), but for different reasons than just the SW I was ranting about (and being disappointed for now). Of course many issues I cited will be fixed with a CM10.1 custom ROM in about 3 months ...

I disagree with the on screen buttons. I had the gs3 and it was terrible for accidentally catching the buttons. The bezel is there for a reason, Samsung put real buttons on the bezel and it's terrible. This is best of both worlds, if an watching a video I get the full screen as the buttons disappear, yet for everything else the screen is a great size.
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I feel sorry for everyone and everything in your life.

I disagree. 4.2 is a major improvement, much faster and smoother. All these new things will be improved upon in future updates.
It sounds to me like some people would never be happy no matter what they do.
As for the on screen buttons, i love them after coming from a device that had a push button for home. It would be great though to make them autohide as they do for video.
sent via xda premium with nexus 7

Lol I love that all you fan boys bash the Op and make fun of him, but I hate to break it to you, everything in his post is true. The proper response is: "yes Google screwed some things up pretty badly here, but overall the good outweighs the bad."
Some of you people are worse than iSheep. No need to defend everything a company does. If you don't acknowledge the bad you basically give Google a license to never fix the problem it created because Google thinks you like those problems!
-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-

I've been using it for a few days and I love the device . smoother than m gs3
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This guy doesn't own one, he's just seen videos, it is pretty obvious.

People just love complaining, I think this is he's first android phone, probably bought it because it was so cheap, try to buy an iPhone for that price you'll probably just about pick up a second hand 4s, I've never seen a phone so cheap with so many features, first phone with 2gb ram, even the iPhone 5 has only 1gb ram.
send your phone back and go and buy an iPhone 4s from ebay!!!

What WE want in the next Community Build! Posted on 10/24/16

We begin with a premise. We are a facebook group that has as its object the OnePlus3 (The group name’s is OnePlus3/3T ITA). We decided to collect our ideas to suggest to you what OnePlus Developer should add to our device to make it perfect.
This is the suggestion list that we hope you will implement. Many of these requests want to be implemented as a possibility of choice. When you buy a OnePlus you want to have more liberty of customization.
HOME CUSTOMIZATION:
1- A better weather application:
- more information (such as Google Now or Windows 10 PC-style)
- a better widget on shelf bar*!
*I now that i can tap on the top to open weather application but it would be nice see a greater integration with more information.
2- Ability to have another swipe from right to left to access to the news of google now (after the shell).
3- Ability to access to the app drawer as the new Pixels Launcher with a swipe from bottom to top.
4- A package of circular icons.
5- Being able to change the display grid of apps in the app drawer and the home.
6- Ability to remove the drawer and leave all apps in the home (such as iOS or Miui).
HARDWARE BUTTON:
7- Ability to set the lateral slider as follows: ringer, vibrate, silent (Also this based on the choice of people. Just put a simple option in the settings).
8- One handed mode with a swipe on central button touch.
CAMERA:
9- Frontal Flash with the use of screen brightness. We need this feature for selfie during night or dark place.
10- Manual mode during video.
11- Ability to record video in HDR mode.
12- Slow Motion with audio.
13- A best correction of the white balance in manual mode with a slider (as LgG4 or LgG5).
OTHER REQUEST:
14- A Toggle for the pocket mode (switch on/off).
15- Enter to the clock app by clicking on the time in the bar of the expanded notifications.
16- Ability to personalize the night mode with different screen temperatures. Like “twilight” app.
18- Quick access to the battery from the notification bar as in the version 3.2.X.
19- Ability to set the background of the app and the notifications bar completely BLACK (not only dark grey. That is not nice).
20- Integration of an energy saving system that would limit the use of the CPU without affecting the application synchronization and data in the background.
Even an "ultra power saving mode" as on Galaxy s6/s7 would be very nice.
21- Ability to zoom the video in the playback phase (as on LgG4 and G5) with a simple "pinch to zoom". This is a COOL FEATURE.
22- Always On function.
All of us in the facebook group OnePlus3/3T ITA want to thank OnePlus and his team for the way they are working on our terminal. We also hope that these requirements listed above will be upheld in positve way.
THANK YOU
P.S: If you (that you're not part of the facebook group) share these ideas, copy them and put them in the last question ("Do you have any advice that we can use to improve the next beta builds? Please describe in detail") of the feedback of CB 3.5.4.

All I want is for oneplus to open up their camera to third party devs... CM14 is better than anything oneplus has been able to offer, but we need a better camera!
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This is a trascription of a Carl Pei's interview to XDA's community : "We want to, and we’ve been talking about internally. So there’s a challenge with the camera because if we want a blob, then there are two major challenges. The first one being, the code relating to the camera is on a lot of layers, so you have something related to the camera on the framework level, something on the Android level, something on a system level. So we’re gonna have to rewrite a lot of code to be able to separate it in a way that allows us to blob it. And the second reason is, if we were to blob it the result is that the speed will suffer, so the speed of the camera UX on custom ROMs will suffer. We’re still trying to figure out a way of how we can release something that will help people improve the camera in their custom ROMs without making the experience become too bad. And we don’t want something with our logo to have a poor experience either. So it is going to be a little bit harder than we thought, but we’ve been discussing this"

bludestiny said:
This is a trascription of a Carl Pei's interview to XDA's community...
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Looks like they should have made it more developer friendly from the beginning. Did they honestly think that nobody would be using custom ROMS?
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Also, notification badges in oxygen launcher. Not the nova launcher workaround.

X1.000.000
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Also, notification badges in oxygen launcher. Not the nova launcher workaround.
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X1.000.000 on this

Also, ability to have different sound level Calls and Notifications

Ability to hide apps in app drawer and make folders.
And private mode in gallery, working with fingerprint would be nice.
Different sound levels for calls and notifications.
Always on display which consumes just a little battery

For me the one trivial thing that really should be addressed are those awful accent colors. Especially for the dark theme.
The palette used is so pale! Except for the green and the sky blue I don't think anyone really likes the others. They really should change those to Material Design colors or atleast give the option to customize.

1. The most important !!! I want to be able to instal any rom without reflashing recovery, firmware or anyting else.
2. I want to set Finger print to lock/unlock screen without any pass or pattern, that means to work everytime.
3. Camera to make Macro photos.

Adding features the one plus 5!

The purpose of this thread is simple...
To discuss anything that will truly add features to our phone... As we know this is a light skinned version of stock Android
And here I will be presenting links to apps and threads and everyone can contribute... Which add features to Op5...
Not just ui customizations..... Features...
Definition of a feature...
Something which your phone does which it couldn't do before that app..
So come on guys.. Lets start...
Though I did hate the laggy TouchWiz. I did live the s pen and S note...
And honestly speaking you wll too...
Let's try and customize our Op5.. To the extent that we want to...
This thread will present a series of apps and threads links etc..
Which will help the user to truly add whatever features they want from whatever skin htc sense Samsung TouchWiz to their op5
And I am no developer so please help me out here...
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1.fooview
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fooview.android.fooview
Thai all add the air command and scrapboom like features to the phone ..
What it does....
Allows you to take custom screen shots and save content like scrapbook for later use...
It is also a over screen float like air view...
It kinda blows samsung air view out of the box... But ya note devices do have bigger screens...
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2.featured I am looking for
An action memo like on screen memo taking app..
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MacroDroid - Device Automation
MacroDroid is a powerful task automation and configuration app that focuses heavily on usability with a simple UI and logical step by step process.
Amazing UI. In my experience better than Tasker.

How about Always On AMOLED - BETA?
It's a simple app which keeps your screen on always (like MOTO devices). Nice and cool. If you pay a small amount you get an unlocked version with customization...

Loved the suggestions guys... Specially the always on amoled
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I have two minor additions I'd want added:
1. More customizable theme colors (or honestly I just want red back!)
2. Invertable color option for the system tray

TL;DR add automatic rules
I had a note 5 I loved it, unfortunately it didn't like the hot tub.. TBH I never used the pen much, but when I did it was handy, perfect for field work; snap a pic, doodle on it, send it off. Awesome! I was torn between buying a note FE or the OP5, I'm glad I stuck with OP from a 2 to a 3 to a 5. I've become a flash-a-holic.
The feature I'd love to see is "automatic rules" you can actually get access to the setting on OOS if you have nova launcher, but it just doesn't work. I'm using "#1 profile" to automatically set the phone to priority only at bed time, this shouldn't be a difficult thing for OP to add/activate to OOS.
I'd also like the old dialer, or for that matter any other dialer, swipe down to answer for me is counter intuitive. Like thumbs up thumbs down, swipe up to answer, or swipe down to reject a call.
I wish you could choose the text bubble colour in the default sms app. Like textra or Google messages (too bad they don't have a dark theme for Google messages).
A setting to switch the wireless data indicator from 4g to LTE, I'm not sure why this bugs me, but it does.

How about Tiles? Also, Virtual Hosts is excellent for setting up a root free ad block. Just download one of Steven Black's host files from GitHub and point the app to it.

Would love for buttons and gestures (especially screen off) to be able to invoke app shortcuts. Just imagine the possibilities for Tasker.

Always on display.
Notification badges on the stock launcher so I can enjoy the shelf.
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How about Always On AMOLED - BETA?
It's a simple app which keeps your screen on always (like MOTO devices). Nice and cool. If you pay a small amount you get an unlocked version with customization...
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This is a nice app and I have paid to support but the battery hit is just too much right now compared to what you get using LG or Samsung's version
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I don't understand why not a single stock ROM has long-press volume to skip track. Its such a simple feature. Its baked into every single custom ROM out there. It was there on Sony Ericsson phones (Walkman and K series). I need to get the damn phone out of the pocket, turn the screen on, unlock, open notifications shade, and press to skip a god damn song. (Not all headphones come with buttons, and not all headphones support skipping songs by multi-pressing the buttons.)

2 features I'd love added:
1. Long press back to kill app
2. Brightness slider in notification drop down. I know there is one, but you have to fully extend it to change it. My S7 had the option to place it in the first drop down.

Yeah I agree with most of you, some useful additions:
1. Badges on the Stock OP Launcher! I love it from my iPhone and sometimes forget to answer because I swyped the notification away and no badges to know there are still unread messages
2. Always On or something similar, but only if it doesn't use too much battery and no burn-in
3. Kill all apps in background with one button gesture

I'd love to see OMS commits get to OOS and probably experiment with the Kernel a bit (I know you can flash a custom, but if you'd like to stay complete stock, without unlocking). Maybe improve audio libs similar to ARISE....

How about a one-handed mode feature? That would be pretty helpful.

- Options to block QS & Power menu on secured lockscreen. (Smart Lockscreen protector app does the job, but it's service doesn't start at boot until the first unlock...)
- Skip music tracks using volume keys
- Built in Caffeine tile (the one from play store works well, but doesn't reset when turning screen off).
- Launch torch using power button long press when screen is off
- One-handed mode
- Center status bar clock

Hi guys,
1- badges for notifications. All my previous phones had this function.
2- more functions in auto mode for camera app, it's too basic for me. And in pro mode, I cannot set up the luminosity if the speed is in manual.
3- ultra power saving mode, like Samsung does, very useful when no more battery and we know no access to electricity for several hours.
4- Resize several pictures at the same time. Sometimes I need to send some pictures but the weight is too big.

1. Badges for unread msg or any notification
2. Always on
3. Camera should have more modes
4. Blurred wallpaper on lock screen

Always on clock
Ability to have status bar icons anywhere ie: signal on left
Ability to use dual cameras for wide angle
Ability to use normal USB-C to HDMI cables (not displaylink, Chromecast and wireless solutions are not fit for gaming, one of the 1+5s strongest points)
Screen off/on animation
List view animations
Full halo support
I'll think of more but that's my list of wants

Things I don't like about the Mate 10. What's yours?

1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.

Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)

I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.

For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...

tboy2000 said:
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?

jemeljsh said:
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.

For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button

otonieru said:
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:

snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture

I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?

maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.

Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)

maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.

I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens

windozeanti said:
Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.

Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size

I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.

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The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.

The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.

The notch

Hey,
This is my first phone with a notch despite all those times I said I would never get a phone with a notch I don't want to miss out top phones for the next years until the fad goes away.
Anyway as I feared the notch is a pain in the arse no matter what the tech press have said for the last few years how they don't interfere blah blah.
Several games I tried have the notch obscuring vital parts of the game exactly where the notch is.
I thought I would try the hide the notch option in settings, stupidly I thought that this would not only hide the notch but adjust the screen size so the app was in the visible area only.
NO.
Using this setting the black bar to hide the notch actually goes over the app and obscures a whole line now instead of just the notch area.
Seriously how do people survive a notch?
Is it poor implementation on Huawei's end?
How can I make this better for myself?

Arguably I'd say that's the fault of the games at this point.
Huawei has/had some API related to notch position and size, but Google integrated an official way to query for these (called Cutouts in the SDK) in Android 9.
I'd expect applications that are aware of 9/aren't old games never to be updated for a while to be notch aware at this point. They could
* test for a notch and not go full screen and scale the game accordingly (leaving the notch 'bar' out - you lose some pixels but nothing is hidden).
* (arguably harder) test for a notch and avoid that area if that's possible for the game UI
> Seriously how do people survive a notch?
Honestly, the P20 Pro notch is a pain in the ass. It's unbearable. It's the worst idea ever.
But the P30 Pro? It's tiny and I never noticed it, neither in normal usage nor for gaming.

First phone with a notch for me too. Have absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. Doesn't bother me at all.

Trying to embrace it and in general is fine but for a couple of games it is in the way.
I could live with the black bar if the screen scaled instead - this should be done by Huawei for sure in the screen management, why give you an option to black bar and hide notch if it hides more of the visible image. It makes no sense when they could scale the image so you see it all.