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Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
00471 said:
dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
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I'm the type of guy who always has that type of hope left even tho I know it won't work. But hey it's worth a try.
koki.murati said:
Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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EMUI 5 uses new filesystem format which makes phone faster and makes the phone fast even after a long time of usage becauses it doesnt fragment data, i think it could be noticable in midend phone like P8, shame we wont have it...
00471 said:
EMUI 5 uses new filesystem format which makes phone faster and makes the phone fast even after a long time of usage becauses it doesnt fragment data, i think it could be noticable in midend phone like P8, shame we wont have it...
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Yeah, imo Huawei should've though ahead about their hardware compatibility.
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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Yeah, imo Huawei should've though ahead about their hardware compatibility.
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im very dissapointed too, next time i will be VERY careful about choosing new smartphone
00471 said:
dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
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^ this. It simply won't happen.
Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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Didn't know this.
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Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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i dont know M8 but what i can say is huawei itself comfirmed that model P8 wont get further versions of android except those with security patch, Have HTC ever said that they will never get nougat? i think that even if huawei could bring it to us later, they just wont anymore, they released TOO many new devices since then, if they had to maintain all of them they would get crazy and no profit from that what so ever, if there is any hope is very, very small, and i dont have any anymore
I don't have a P8 but I remember always wanting one due to the awesome design. If developers can port Nougat to My Galaxy S4 then I really don't see why Hauwei can't make an official release for the p8. With 2 year software updates the norm I find this extremely unacceptable. The vulkan requirement is false, for I can run nougat on a S4 (custom ROM) and have no graphical issues at all. Good luck with your petition.
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i dont know M8 but what i can say is huawei itself comfirmed that model P8 wont get further versions of android except those with security patch, Have HTC ever said that they will never get nougat? i think that even if huawei could bring it to us later, they just wont anymore, they released TOO many new devices since then, if they had to maintain all of them they would get crazy and no profit from that what so ever, if there is any hope is very, very small, and i dont have any anymore
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nope, you ain't seeing nougat on p8. we chinese users have been asking huawei since the release of emui 5, and all the answer from them is "no major functional upgrades, but security patches will continue". so stop hoping for official emui 5, and cross your fingers for third-party flavors like lineage. btw based on the status of the cm13 and lineage13 here, lineageos suooprt seems promising.
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nope, you ain't seeing nougat on p8. we chinese users have been asking huawei since the release of emui 5, and all the answer from them is "no major functional upgrades, but security patches will continue". so stop hoping for official emui 5, and cross your fingers for third-party flavors like lineage. btw based on the status of the cm13 and lineage13 here, lineageos suooprt seems promising.
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thats right but autor of this port is not willing to make camera work with the same quality as stock rom, its a huge compromise..
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thats right but autor of this port is not willing to make camera work with the same quality as stock rom, its a huge compromise..
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That's a compromise you have to take. It's the same for almost all phones. My S4 has worse quality but not too bad
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That's a compromise you have to take. It's the same for almost all phones. My S4 has worse quality but not too bad
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thats right, unfortunatelly im not willing to take this compromise, the phone takes fantastic photos and it doesnt pay off just for some extra features that doesnt matter in real life anyway, emui has everything that people could need, awesome battery life, fast ui, great phone manager and the most important for me, pro camera
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thats right, unfortunatelly im not willing to take this compromise, the phone takes fantastic photos and it doesnt pay off just for some extra features that doesnt matter in real life anyway, emui has everything that people could need, awesome battery life, fast ui, great phone manager and the most important for me, pro camera
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If it has everything you need then you don't need emui 5 ?
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If it has everything you need then you don't need emui 5
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well, emui 5 is faster and more beautifull
Whats happen ... with this nougat? Is there any information ?
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Whats happen ... with this nougat? Is there any information ?
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nothing happened and nothing ever will... just get over it people
Hi Guys,
It seems official update to Nougat has been delayed due to some technical problems which were experienced by open BETA testers, see below source.
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-p9-lite-nougat-update-verzoegert-sich-wohl/
Well I think it's better to receive polished software even if it will take few more weeks. From the other hand I'm on B336 since beta project and it's working as a charm, no issues that could justify any delay like that on my phone.
Cheers!
Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
SALVO9 said:
Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
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I agree, but in case of P9 lite we have new UI which suits me better than old one. Pure nougat is not big improvement, EMUI 5 I think is.
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Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
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Minor xD? Its more major than kitkat to loollipop
guys, for the huawei devs, p9 lite is not a priority any more, new huawei phones are in line and p9 lite sw is in background, any way, its not big deal to stuck on mm for now, you will get really tired from 7, i work in service shop and i tested p9 with 7, no big deal.
for me most important is to fix the jpeg engine on camera, to fix the sharpness on the photos, and autofocus on video.
Hi, Oreo 8.1 final beta is available for Pixel 2 users and will enable the Pixel's NPU for third party apps. Just wondering if anyone knows what 8.1 might do for the Mate 10? Google Lens?
I don't know what it will do to the Mate 10, but I have seem some signs of internal builds of what looks like might be EMUI 8.1
I haven't released anything yet, though. Take it with a grain of salt for now
Update on the above: EMUI 8.0.1 exists but it's still Android 8.0, not 8.1
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I don't know what it will do to the Mate 10, but I have seem some signs of internal builds of what looks like might be EMUI 8.1
I haven't released anything yet, though. Take it with a grain of salt for now
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Any major changes in EMUI 8.1 ? Or just adapting EMUI for the new hardware stuff on P11 ?
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Any major changes in EMUI 8.1 ? Or just adapting EMUI for the new hardware stuff on P11 ?
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Turned out to be EMUI 8.0.1, and no major changes that I can report on. Of course whatever is the final release for the P11 might be different.
Huawei don't bother with incremental OS updates. Correct me if I'm wrong, bit every Huawei and Honor phone never got 7.1 shame as 7.0 had a battery drain issue that was fixed in 7.1 a year later and my Honor 8's battery is still very poor.
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Huawei don't bother with incremental OS updates. Correct me if I'm wrong, bit every Huawei and Honor phone never got 7.1 shame as 7.0 had a battery drain issue that was fixed in 7.1 a year later and my Honor 8's battery is still very poor.
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Yes. I don't recall seeing an incremental update on Huawei either.
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Yes. I don't recall seeing an incremental update on Huawei either.
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That's incredibly unfortunate given that .0 Android releases are usually quite half-baked. I guess it goes well with the half-baked EMUI.
This time there is a pretty darn important reason to go to 8.1 for Huawei, though. Fast, even.
Huawei is massively advertising the NPU of its Kirin 970 SoC - and on Android 8.0 the NPU is borderline useless. The couple of AI apps on the phone right now are little more than tech demos.
Android 8.1 brings the AI API necessary to make the NPU accessible to other apps.
Here is an editorial that speaks about the details and very much assumes that Android 8.1 will be coming to the Mate 10 (Pro) quite soon:
Android 8.1 and Oreo's AI future
If Huawei is truly skipping 8.1 this time around, they'd be significantly dumber than expected.
If the info in this link is true https://www.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-android-81-and-oreos-ai-future
I think the mate 10 will be the best/most advanced Android phone till the rest of the manufacturers bring NPU to there phones.
I looked at the features, and they were very promising. It even includes a dark mode!
Xinja said:
I looked at the features, and they were very promising. It even includes a dark mode!
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Well, the phone's been out only a year so it should get it. Always worrying when you see the manufacturer promising updates for other devices but not yours. Why do they do that? I sold my Moto 5gs because of the lack of updates, so won't be buying them again. Ditto Samsung. Maybe i'll just get Pixel phones in future. I expect more than 12 months support (plus I read that Huawei/Honor were switching to quarterly security updates - we'll see). The Honor Play was very good value for money, and it would be hard to justify devices without SD card slots but I'm really not in the "get a new phone every year or two" game. My chromebook has an EOL date in about 5 years time; why shouldn't my phone, too?
Looking forward to the dark mode, although puzzled that it requires OS support.
With Project Treble and Mainline you'd think that Google are almost at the point where they can roll out OS updates behind the manufacturers backs.
Interestingly, looking at the Android dashboard, which historically has shown Android OS usage, you can see it's been down since May:
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards
I wonder if this is going to come back in October when they announce the Pixel 4, and they're going to blow everyone away by saying Android 9 adoption has beaten all the other versions?
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Well, the phone's been out only a year so it should get it. Always worrying when you see the manufacturer promising updates for other devices but not yours. Why do they do that? I sold my Moto 5gs because of the lack of updates, so won't be buying them again. Ditto Samsung. Maybe i'll just get Pixel phones in future. I expect more than 12 months support (plus I read that Huawei/Honor were switching to quarterly security updates - we'll see). The Honor Play was very good value for money, and it would be hard to justify devices without SD card slots but I'm really not in the "get a new phone every year or two" game. My chromebook has an EOL date in about 5 years time; why shouldn't my phone, too?
Looking forward to the dark mode, although puzzled that it requires OS support.
With Project Treble and Mainline you'd think that Google are almost at the point where they can roll out OS updates behind the manufacturers backs.
Interestingly, looking at the Android dashboard, which historically has shown Android OS usage, you can see it's been down since May:
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards
I wonder if this is going to come back in October when they announce the Pixel 4, and they're going to blow everyone away by saying Android 9 adoption has beaten all the other versions?
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Probably, the biggest downside of honor and huawei phones is the lack of bootloader unlock codes, which leads to not much developer support. So I'm just always kinda looking out for updates
There is no official confirmation for Honor Play, unlike the Honor 8x or Honor 10 etc. Even if we do get the update, it isn't going to come anytime soon. Check this out: https://www.xda-developers.com/emui-10-android-10-update-timeline-huawei-honor/
The phone is still a massive value for its current price in terms of raw performance. I'm pretty content with it. Despite the quirks of EMUI, I've grown quite attached to it and will prefer it over almost all other android skins except probably full stock android...
Possibly, we might get Android 10 on Honor Play second quarter of next year.
I don't know how much we can trust this picture
But it's highly possible that we can forget about emui 10 for next 4-6 month for sure because emui 9.1 has been rolled out just yet
It is becoming obvious it will take time before Honor Play will receive EMUI 10 (if at all it will receive the update). It is not even on the list of Honor smartphones that will get Android 10 in the future. I am surprised to see Honor 8X included but not Honor Play.
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It is becoming obvious it will take time before Honor Play will receive EMUI 10 (if at all it will receive the update). It is not even on the list of Honor smartphones that will get Android 10 in the future. I am surprised to see Honor 8X included but not Honor Play.
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Honor 8x got sales numbers. Honor play didn't
Honestly this is bull****. Why the **** people buy a ugly ass honor 8x with kirin 710 when they can buy a honor play at the same price
It is not getting. Honor service in twitter confirmed that Honor play is going to get next major android 10 updates due to "hardware limitations".
This is particularly strange because Honor play has Kirin 970, the flagship processor of Huawei of 2017-18. It is the same processor of the p20, which is scheduled for the update.
As Honor won't be sending it. Thus I am planing for unlocking bootloader in any way as soon as they push emui 10 update lol
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It is not getting. Honor service in twitter confirmed that Honor play is going to get next major android 10 updates due to "hardware limitations".
This is particularly strange because Honor play has Kirin 970, the flagship processor of Huawei of 2017-18. It is the same processor of the p20, which is scheduled for the update.
As Honor won't be sending it. Thus I am planing for unlocking bootloader in any way as soon as they push emui 10 update lol
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oems have been doing it forever. it happened with my glaxy s3, galaxy s6 and now honor play. shame that these oems promise updates and then they dont accomplish it. only if honor allowed bootloader unlocking, it wouldnt be bothering this much.
Urgent matter
Sign this petition:
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we are not going to get EMUI 10 i think
apollo3x said:
oems have been doing it forever. it happened with my glaxy s3, galaxy s6 and now honor play. shame that these oems promise updates and then they dont accomplish it. only if honor allowed bootloader unlocking, it wouldnt be bothering this much.
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But samsung have changed and now apparently promise 4 years of upgrades. The android one site is out of date and doesn't include the new £99, £129 etc phones nokia have announced which will get 2 years support. Seems funny typing it - like we should feel grateful to get support. It should be 5 years. But yes, huawei/honor aren't getting any more of my money. If you knew the honor play was going to get 1 os upgrade around 14 months after launch and that's it, would you have bought the phone. I wouldn't. Fool me once...
promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html
I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device
I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device
This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi
Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.
You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.
Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.
EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t
Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.
Can you record phone calls with this OS?
this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading
In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though
not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change