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Huawei P8 Nougat Petition

Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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https://www.change.org/p/huawei-mob...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

koki.murati said:
Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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https://www.change.org/p/huawei-mob...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time

00471 said:
dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
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I'm the type of guy who always has that type of hope left even tho I know it won't work. But hey it's worth a try.

koki.murati said:
Huawei Mobile*has released the Android 7 Nougat update for the P9, P9 Lite and Mate 8 devices. Why they haven't done the same for the P8, P8 Lite and Mate S, this*only leads to one conclusion:
Huawei*only cares about the factory line revenue generation of their P9, P9 Lite and newer devices! All you customers who purchased new P8, P8 Lite and Mate S*a few months back, you can be sure that Huawei*only wants you to buy a newer mobile phones and leave older devices even if they are still sufficient by hardware side.
The hardware requirements for Android Nougat are irrefutably the same as Android Marshmallow.* Where is 18 month software support?
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https://www.change.org/p/huawei-mob...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.

NandorHUN said:
If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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EMUI 5 uses new filesystem format which makes phone faster and makes the phone fast even after a long time of usage becauses it doesnt fragment data, i think it could be noticable in midend phone like P8, shame we wont have it...

00471 said:
EMUI 5 uses new filesystem format which makes phone faster and makes the phone fast even after a long time of usage becauses it doesnt fragment data, i think it could be noticable in midend phone like P8, shame we wont have it...
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Yeah, imo Huawei should've though ahead about their hardware compatibility.

NandorHUN said:
If I remember correctly it isn't really Huawei's fault. Google doesn't support the version for P8 because of security issues.
Anyway I wouldn't really looking for the Android 7.0, most of the UI is available in Launchers like Nova and other pars of it doesn't really make much of a difference.
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koki.murati said:
Yeah, imo Huawei should've though ahead about their hardware compatibility.
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im very dissapointed too, next time i will be VERY careful about choosing new smartphone

00471 said:
dont bother, Android 7 API is not compatible with P8´s GPU, therefore, its not possible to make it official way, youre loosing your time
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^ this. It simply won't happen.

Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.

majaczos said:
Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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Didn't know this.

majaczos said:
Surprisingly the HTC One M8 which is also incompatible with Vulkan, is getting Nougat update in the US.
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i dont know M8 but what i can say is huawei itself comfirmed that model P8 wont get further versions of android except those with security patch, Have HTC ever said that they will never get nougat? i think that even if huawei could bring it to us later, they just wont anymore, they released TOO many new devices since then, if they had to maintain all of them they would get crazy and no profit from that what so ever, if there is any hope is very, very small, and i dont have any anymore

I don't have a P8 but I remember always wanting one due to the awesome design. If developers can port Nougat to My Galaxy S4 then I really don't see why Hauwei can't make an official release for the p8. With 2 year software updates the norm I find this extremely unacceptable. The vulkan requirement is false, for I can run nougat on a S4 (custom ROM) and have no graphical issues at all. Good luck with your petition.

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i dont know M8 but what i can say is huawei itself comfirmed that model P8 wont get further versions of android except those with security patch, Have HTC ever said that they will never get nougat? i think that even if huawei could bring it to us later, they just wont anymore, they released TOO many new devices since then, if they had to maintain all of them they would get crazy and no profit from that what so ever, if there is any hope is very, very small, and i dont have any anymore
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nope, you ain't seeing nougat on p8. we chinese users have been asking huawei since the release of emui 5, and all the answer from them is "no major functional upgrades, but security patches will continue". so stop hoping for official emui 5, and cross your fingers for third-party flavors like lineage. btw based on the status of the cm13 and lineage13 here, lineageos suooprt seems promising.

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nope, you ain't seeing nougat on p8. we chinese users have been asking huawei since the release of emui 5, and all the answer from them is "no major functional upgrades, but security patches will continue". so stop hoping for official emui 5, and cross your fingers for third-party flavors like lineage. btw based on the status of the cm13 and lineage13 here, lineageos suooprt seems promising.
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thats right but autor of this port is not willing to make camera work with the same quality as stock rom, its a huge compromise..

00471 said:
thats right but autor of this port is not willing to make camera work with the same quality as stock rom, its a huge compromise..
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That's a compromise you have to take. It's the same for almost all phones. My S4 has worse quality but not too bad

Tweakforce_LG said:
That's a compromise you have to take. It's the same for almost all phones. My S4 has worse quality but not too bad
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thats right, unfortunatelly im not willing to take this compromise, the phone takes fantastic photos and it doesnt pay off just for some extra features that doesnt matter in real life anyway, emui has everything that people could need, awesome battery life, fast ui, great phone manager and the most important for me, pro camera

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thats right, unfortunatelly im not willing to take this compromise, the phone takes fantastic photos and it doesnt pay off just for some extra features that doesnt matter in real life anyway, emui has everything that people could need, awesome battery life, fast ui, great phone manager and the most important for me, pro camera
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If it has everything you need then you don't need emui 5 ?

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If it has everything you need then you don't need emui 5
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well, emui 5 is faster and more beautifull

Whats happen ... with this nougat? Is there any information ?

Tix0mir said:
Whats happen ... with this nougat? Is there any information ?
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nothing happened and nothing ever will... just get over it people

Port ROM emui (Honor 8 Manufacter), for our OnePlus3/3t

Hi!
Anybody have an idea how to port ROM emui (Honor 8 huawei Manufacturer), for our OnePlus3/3t ? Like Miui 8
Thanks.

probably not possible. Huawei does not like distributing any data about their software. They still havent released any kernel information. They use a completely different processor in the Honor 8 so itd be quite tough getting the honor 8 version of EMUI to work. Maybe EMUI 1 or 2 which use snapdragon processors would be easier but they are also very different. Besides its not made for western audiences to enjoy. It is strictly a chinese market so not many OP3T users would be okay with not having an app drawer. Believe me i used the Huawei Mate 8 before coming to the 3T. Super obscure phone with little development going on. I doubt anyone has really tried to pull EMUI off a Huawei phone ever for use in another. It is probably the worst software environment on any android phone. Not just saying that because it is my opinion on it but i noticed some horrid standby times along with no app drawer.

Emui is terrible UI.
Why you want it?

Basically speaking, I don't like EMUI.
My last phone was Huawei mate8 and it was also my last Huawei's phone. Why ? Because Huawei' ROM is rare people to develop and Huawei is hard to release its source code.
It's just like Xiaomi ... Common problem from China mobile company : Won't release their source code easily ...

Official nougat update delayed

Hi Guys,
It seems official update to Nougat has been delayed due to some technical problems which were experienced by open BETA testers, see below source.
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-p9-lite-nougat-update-verzoegert-sich-wohl/
Well I think it's better to receive polished software even if it will take few more weeks. From the other hand I'm on B336 since beta project and it's working as a charm, no issues that could justify any delay like that on my phone.
Cheers!

Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.

SALVO9 said:
Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
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I agree, but in case of P9 lite we have new UI which suits me better than old one. Pure nougat is not big improvement, EMUI 5 I think is.

SALVO9 said:
Those are obvious marketing strategies. Huawei wants you to buy newer models and that's it. Let's just enjoy our phones regardless, Nougat is a pretty minor update after all. All this hype has no sense, for me.
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Minor xD? Its more major than kitkat to loollipop

guys, for the huawei devs, p9 lite is not a priority any more, new huawei phones are in line and p9 lite sw is in background, any way, its not big deal to stuck on mm for now, you will get really tired from 7, i work in service shop and i tested p9 with 7, no big deal.
for me most important is to fix the jpeg engine on camera, to fix the sharpness on the photos, and autofocus on video.

Will the Mate 10 Series ever get the EMUI 8.1 (Android 8.1) update?

The 8.1 update will be sick, it'll unlock our NPUs for other apps, give us more scene detections for our cameras, the option to turn off the AI, reportedly the "long exposure shots without a tripod" feature, and many more. Huawei said android 8.1 is "officially compatible with the Mate 10" (4 months ago), which makes me wonder, are we ever getting the update? The phone has been released for quite a while now, and we never got any updates AFAIK. Do you think we will? If you do, why do you say so?

I don't have the answer but yes it could be nice to have an update for it but when ??

IMO wouldn't it be better if we jumped to Android 9? Dev preview is on Chinese mate10 AFAIK. I had a P8, that went from 5.0 to 6. There was a very brief 5.1 with a few fixes. The time they spent on that would have been far better used polishing the 6.0 release.

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IMO wouldn't it be better if we jumped to Android 9? Dev preview is on Chinese mate10 AFAIK. I had a P8, that went from 5.0 to 6. There was a very brief 5.1 with a few fixes. The time they spent on that would have been far better used polishing the 6.0 release.
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If I had to choose I'd pick android P, it's really sick, I'm asking for 8.1 because that's the very least you could ask for, don't set the bar too high because Huawei failed to deliver many times before.

The update is rolling out in China right now, but we will have it a month or two later, maybe...

Huawei promised on stage that the mate 10 (and pro) would be getting Android 8.1 early this year with support for the Android NNAPI that would give developers access to the NPU.
Fast forward, it's almost summer and nothing yet.
When I read the news that the night camera mode would be arriving soon for the Mate 10, I had a little hope that this update would be bundled with the 8.1 update, but it seems that for other regions on FF the night camera update is already showing and no sign of the 8.1.... it's just a June patch with the night camera add-on.
I'm also not holding my breath for a fast Android P release, maybe end this year, beginning of the next year? Anyways after the next Mate launch for sure.

It looks like huawei will have to move to other os, or stop selling their devices in the US, sooner than they expected. Let's hope that this doesn't happen.

Hoping for 8.1 soon and for sure also for Android P in my dream lol

What you mean "dreaming Android P". The device is not a year old and they will for sure drop Android P for Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro. The problem is EMUI.
I will mever buy again a Huawei device, bootloader lock 4 ever and lame updates.

Luinwethion said:
Huawei promised on stage that the mate 10 (and pro) would be getting Android 8.1 early this year with support for the Android NNAPI that would give developers access to the NPU.
Fast forward, it's almost summer and nothing yet.
When I read the news that the night camera mode would be arriving soon for the Mate 10, I had a little hope that this update would be bundled with the 8.1 update, but it seems that for other regions on FF the night camera update is already showing and no sign of the 8.1.... it's just a June patch with the night camera add-on.
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BLA-L29C636B139 just popped up on FF. Only a June Security patch with no Night Camera add on.

Night camera mode? Isn't this there from the start?

MikeTheGamer said:
Night camera mode? Isn't this there from the start?
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He means night mode for p20 pro with no need of tripod.
Mate the 10 pro be with you

wbrambley said:
IMO wouldn't it be better if we jumped to Android 9? Dev preview is on Chinese mate10 AFAIK. I had a P8, that went from 5.0 to 6. There was a very brief 5.1 with a few fixes. The time they spent on that would have been far better used polishing the 6.0 release.
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He means night mode for p20 pro with no need of tripod.
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Haha, sorry.

There is a new firmware in FF 145 it has nightshot but the firmware is not approved yet so we gotta wait till it gets approved to install I guess. I am a BLA-L09 C432 user from UK. Just in case any one wanted to know or if it even mattered.

amigoloco said:
It looks like huawei will have to move to other os, or stop selling their devices in the US, sooner than they expected. Let's hope that this doesn't happen.
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Even in the rare chance that this could happen
Too bad there is absolutely no market for Huawei devices outside the US

novastar1 said:
Even in the rare chance that this could happen
Too bad there is absolutely no market for Huawei devices outside the US
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I think if they made stock google look or used android one on their device. These phones will sell like hotcakes, also they include all their features that be great. But that's just a dream for now. -_-

145 just arrived on ff with night mode. Unavailable for me yet

136 update with nightmode available on FF but not approved for my firmware, will wait till it is. Sadly, it's still android 8.0. Should I lose more hope because of that?

Pays to read. The 8.1 update does not start until the end of the month, another 2 weeks.

Already using 145. June patch. Night shot better, but not that thing. Anyway, satisfied with this update.

Harmony OS upgrade for P20 Pro in 2022 H1

promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html

I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device

I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device

This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi

Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.

You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:

bluetooth-bug said:
You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone

I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)

andrei80 said:
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.

Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494

There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...

andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.

EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t

Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.

Can you record phone calls with this OS?

this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading

In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though

not much changed, mostly control center in the shade

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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change