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I wouldn't hold my breath for any custom ROM's

For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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Mr Dasher said:
For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.

mitchellvii said:
There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.

The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.

BarryH_GEG said:
The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
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Hey BarryH, long time no see. Yep, there will be plenty of development for the 10.5 S as it is likely to be very popular.

mitchellvii said:
Hey BarryH, long time no see.
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Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.

BarryH_GEG said:
Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
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I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.

Barry. Your a GOD. you just killed another thread with your amazing insight. Kudos! ?

mitchellvii said:
I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
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I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.

BarryH_GEG said:
I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
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Although with my white tablet and case I feel a little like Tony Curtis in The Great Race. Just call me Leslie.

Mr Dasher said:
For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.

takeadare said:
I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
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I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?

aznguyen316 said:
I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
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saw a post in the TR thread in gs5 forum..."Samsung galaxy tab pro 8.4 ,this method does not work, it reboots."
Cant wait to root this sucker myself.

Mr Dasher said:
I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !

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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Its not a TW issue. I think Samsung devices with Snapdragon SoC have the fully custom ROMs. Devices with the Exynos CPU's usually don't.

When it comes to roms there is one thing I look for. Speed. Unless they go crazy with colors, theming or silly fonts I don't care much how it looks since I use a launcher anyway. Although I enjoy CM I miss the Samsung features such as split screen.

I would make Alliance rom for the tab s just need to afford one lol ?

[Q] 64 Bit Tab S

The question: Which is the best option (conjecture):
a) CM11 on a Tab S SM-T800 (Exynos 5420)
b) Touchwiz on a Tab S (Exynos 7 Octa 64bit) -unreleased
c) Touchwiz on a Tab S (Exynos 5433 32-bit locked) -unreleased
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[REDACTED] - I can't give you links since I've not enough posts yet.. google "Tab S 5433" and you'll find some links to the new stuff I'm talking about, news broke around Oct 2.
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Since I live in Seoul, I'll be able to pick up one of these new bad boys if/when it's released. However, that would mean returning the T800 I've just ordered as soon as it arrives; I only bought it because of Suzook, Nvertigo67, and Baracudda77777's efforts to port over CM11, but I'm guessing the re-released Tab S won't be compatible with their Rom.
The articles seem to suggest that the re-release tablet will have the 5433 (now renamed the Exynos 7 Octa) but it's possible that it will be 'locked' into 32 bit mode.. not really sure if that means forever or until they update touchwiz to Android 5.0.
Just don't want any lag.. what would you do?

Manningham said:
The question: Which is the best option (conjecture):
a) CM11 on a Tab S SM-T800 (Exynos 5420)
b) Touchwiz on a Tab S (Exynos 7 Octa 64bit)
c) Touchwiz on a Tab S (Exynos 5433 32-bit locked)
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[REDACTED] - I can't give you links since I've not enough posts yet.. google "Tab S 5433" and you'll find some links to the new stuff I'm talking about, news broke around Oct 2.
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Since I live in Seoul, I'll be able to pick up one of these new bad boys if/when it's released. However, that would mean returning the T800 I've just ordered as soon as it arrives; I only bought it because of Suzook, Nvertigo67, and Baracudda77777's efforts to port over CM11, but I'm guessing the re-released Tab S won't be compatible with their Rom.
The articles seem to suggest that the re-release tablet will have the 5433 (now renamed the Exynos 7 Octa) but it's possible that it will be 'locked' into 32 bit mode.. not really sure if that means forever or until they update touchwiz to Android 5.0.
Just don't want any lag.. what would you do?
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I personally would just stick with the T800, like you mentioned they are making great headway on the CM11 rom. How much performance difference(if any) would there be between the two?

EliteNeet said:
I personally would just stick with the T800, like you mentioned they are making great headway on the CM11 rom. How much performance difference(if any) would there be between the two?
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Not sure if it would make a difference at all so I put the question out there. Perhaps future proofing to some extent?
The new chip is touted to be ~50% faster (and easier on the battery) but if CM11 runs perfectly smooth on a T800 already then I guess I don't see much pointed in going faster than perfectly fast

Well I read about it only being released in korea/parts of asia. Not sure yet on when it will be in the u.s. Doesnt matter really since its just changing chipsets for better improvement of performance. But nothing was mentioned about battery life. The tab s i have now has great battery life since im rooted and debloat some apps. And I dont really need a faster tablet since this is just fine for me. So battery could possibly be an issue in the new tab s is what im asking.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Well I read about it only being released in korea/parts of asia. Not sure yet on when it will be in the u.s. Doesnt matter really since its just changing chipsets for better improvement of performance. But nothing was mentioned about battery life. The tab s i have now has great battery life since im rooted and debloat some apps. And I dont really need a faster tablet since this is just fine for me. So battery could possibly be an issue in the new tab s is what im asking.
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I live in Korea Well the articles I read said that the chip was supposed to be even nicer to the battery.. I'll believe when I see though

Manningham said:
I live in Korea Well the articles I read said that the chip was supposed to be even nicer to the battery.. I'll believe when I see though
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The problem with the lag in current models is touchwiz thats causing it. Until you change launchers, theres no lag. Unless you wont care of haveing root a couple weeks of whe the new tab s comes out go for it. Just make sure you check if the battery lasts as long asadvertised. There have been reports of bad batteries in some tab s models right now. I wonder if there will be much development for the new tab s.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The problem with the lag in current models is touchwiz thats causing it. Until you change launchers, theres no lag. Unless you wont care of haveing root a couple weeks of whe the new tab s comes out go for it. Just make sure you check if the battery lasts as long asadvertised. There have been reports of bad batteries in some tab s models right now. I wonder if there will be much development for the new tab s.
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Yeah I'm wondering if there will be much development too.. maybe just stick with the T800

Can AOSP come very soon now?

I don't know if you saw but there is this new video of AOSP booting on the S6, since the S6 and the Note 5 both use the Exynos 7420 SoC does that mean we can expect AOSP very soon for our Note 5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ

ethanscooter said:
I don't know if you saw but there is this new video of AOSP booting on the S6, since the S6 and the Note 5 both use the Exynos 7420 SoC does that mean we can expect AOSP very soon for our Note 5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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No kernel source, no AOSP. Way to many bugs for starters...only time can tell.

looks like dev's waiting for 6.0

Within a few months. This should be very soon because the phone with same chip already have AOSP ported, easy for porting into other devices...

[Discussion] Android Marshmallow for Note 4

As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
What do you think?

Kazzko said:
As we all know, Android Marshmallow will surely be on our great device, the Note 4. Leaked news say that Note 4 users will start receiving the update in February. Galaxy S6 and its brother Edge will be getting it on January, while the Note 5 and S6 Edge Plus will get it this December. According to these news, the new update will have a new TouchWiz. You can see that it is flat and more Material Design. As we all heard (or some of us), that Google is helping Samsung to create a new TouchWiz that will be so light and so materialistic, which as we can see in the link that it is really more beautiful and looks neater than the older versions. Now, will this new TouchWiz be on our Note 4? I believe it will. I know that the TouchWiz on the Note 5 isn't there for Note 4, but I believe Samsung did that to boost the sales of their Note 5 as it got a lot of bad reviews. Now that a lot of people have bought the Note 5, I think we will get this new TouchWiz along the update Android Marshmallow, or Samsung might even decide to keep their boost for the Note 5 and S7, and release the new TouchWiz for the Note 4 in Android 6.1 (maybe?).
What do you think?
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I dont think so we will get the new theme engine.
we could get an improved touchwhiz.
but in 2016 i'll get a note 6.
used all notes from 2 to 4
but due to lack of expandable storage. I'll be skipping note 5. But thanks to rumours. I'm quite positive that it will make a comeback (fingers crossed)

The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.

Shane_Picardo said:
The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...

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This isn't the last list, it will keep updating. Samsung is really good in making phones but they really suck at software... I am close to ditching it, but I got my Note 4 in September which is most likely for me switch to Nexus phones (or even iOS) in the next few years. Though, hopefully Samsung will enhance due to the next few years...
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Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.

Shane_Picardo said:
Hmmm your right, but what I ment to say was looking at note 3's disapproval for android 6.0, note 4 too may not get android 7.0 when it will be released in the future 1 or 2 years from now.
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At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)

sushant1thakran said:
At that moment independent developers will come to the rescue (hopefully)
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Hehe... yea bro! hopefully they would. But sammy has already heading towards 64 bit OS. The exynos note 4 supports 64 bit libs but our snapdragon phone doesn't.

64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4

Shane_Picardo said:
The results are given here. There's nothing more to talk about. Look at how they ditched that poor note 3. I guess android 6.0 will be the last update for our note 4.
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I don't buy android tab or smartphone cause that is the major problem updates are always comes with new smartphones.

Ausboy 2011 said:
64bit would help our device alot but it won't happen.. 6.1 should probably be our final build but im on cm so ima stay with the note 4
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Hmmm... choice also matters bro. Those who love pure android experience and want latest android versions prefer CM. But as for me, having the latest android version doesn't matter much for me as I love the stock firmware coz there are so many extra options & features that I may not find it on CM. (Not to forget the s-pen features too). Also rooting & installing touchwiz based kernels & roms is like extra icing on the cake! ^_^

Is any news about marshmallow update? Are those release dates official?

hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.

Basheer33 said:
hmmm i don't think that the note 4 will have the new touchwiz in near update but i think that it can be ported to our device buy our extremely talented devs.
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Of course it won't, it's going to be the story of S3 and we'll also get it badly optimized, but things will be fixed and ported by someone here, as always.

Now we are with Android 5.1.1 BUT still with the old TouchWize UI except some few visual changes here or their !!!
Samsung policy is always like this .... the older generation get nothing new until the Note 4 is dead officially & removed from Samsung lists.
I sold my Note 4 few months back & I got iPhone 6s (such a cool smartphone), then I decide to buy another Note 4 because of the Stylus I really like to play with it, so I'm keeping mt Note 4 as second phone for my other sim.
accept it like it is, update stuff is not for Samsung or Note 4 enjoy like this way.
if you need fast updates get iPhone (I really recommend it) or Nexus phone, also HTC & LG providing faster updates.

one-option said:
...get iPhone (I really recommend it)
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Yeah.... :/

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Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.

one-option said:
so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Only those who bought the Note for the Stylus

one-option said:
Yes man, iPhone providing smooth & easy way for dealing with stuff, & old iPhones get the new OS even before releasing the new iPhone.
Apps quality are also better in iOS.
in short ...in spite of my short experience with Apple & iOS but believe me iPhone does provide user experience that I can't live without it.
and if Apple will one day provide iPhone with stylus, a Samsung Note like, so many people will leave Samsung for Apple.
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Of topic?
This threat is for note 4 marshmallow update.

From wat i saw in both s5 and note 4 neither s5 nor note 4 will have the new touchwiz , u already mentioned the reason cuz both note 4 and note5 are too close in terms of hardware so as usual Samsung decided to go against it's habit and decided not to port the new touchwiZ to note 4 Just to make sure that note5 sales are doing well , and about 6.1 update for note 4 I doubt it will have it I think android 6.0 is going to the last update for note 4 same as note3 that didn't get android 5.1.1 and left with buggy android 5.0 unfortionatly This is Samsung THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY and ptl dont say That every manfacturer does because they don't do it in Samsung way, anyway I am waiting for the update and if leaks were true that it won't have The latest touchwiz as Samsung used to do with previous notes I will move to another brand mostly the next nexus.

Fully featured Samsung ROM for A6

Do I have your attention now?
Good.
Hi guys. We were discussing on our A6 group that the regular 7870 A6 gets very little love.
Mainly because it's not a very good phone. But that's why it needs more love than its getting, so that the experience of owning it doesn't suck as much xD
Well, I happened to mention that I love my S8 ROM for the J6 because it is fully featured. Even with Pie released and even with 64bit vendor, I always return to my S8+ ROM. I just love it so much.
So, I offered the opportunity to port it to the A6.
Now, there are a couple of things I need to make clear before actually doing this.
As of now, porting ROMs in Pie is a bit difficult because you can't deodex the whole firmware properly, that is why I have not really done any Pie porting.
This port would be Oreo!
Deodexing Oreo has 0 problems and I can easily try to fix problems that happen due to pop up.
So, what would be the benefits?
Imagine being able to use edge screen! Infinity wallpapers! Smart select, bixby vision, scroll capture!
Sure, you don't have the latest OS, but I think having Oreo is good enough
That being said, I do need some active testers. I don't own an A6 so porting will require somebody with the device to test.
If you are interested, leave your comment here and I will contact you when possible to try to make this a reality.
I'll leave you guys with some captures to see if it motivates you a little

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You got a Private message sir. I am willing to be a tester.

ShaDisNX255 said:
Do I have your attention now?
Good.
Hi guys. We were discussing on our A6 group that the regular 7870 A6 gets very little love.
Mainly because it's not a very good phone.
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A6 a little bit better because exynos base, but the siblings (A6+) far more worse because snapdragon base :silly: .
my target port very limited..only A8star, A9 2018. i have some thought also to port from s8/s9/note8/note9, but all those series must be come from china open/hongkong region (snapdragon) which could lead me to getting more problems.
after seeing that you successful porting from S8 oreo maybe i also will try from s8 hongkong region
currently i also running A9 2018 port and all bugs has been solved (from released version in here).
the feature almost same from your port but i don't have edge lighting

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A6 a little bit better because exynos base, but the siblings (A6+) far more worse because snapdragon base :silly: .
my target port very limited..only A8star, A9 2018. i have some thought also to port from s8/s9/note8/note9, but all those series must be come from china open/hongkong region (snapdragon) which could lead me to getting more problems.
after seeing that you successful porting from S8 oreo maybe i also will try from s8 hongkong region
currently i also running A9 2018 port and all bugs has been solved (from released version in here).
the feature almost same from your port but i don't have edge lighting
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With a full deodex, you can port no matter the SoC. I've ported both SD and Exynos to Mediatek Sammy phone. I think in general, Samsung likes to use very general lib stuff

ShaDisNX255 said:
With a full deodex, you can port no matter the SoC. I've ported both SD and Exynos to Mediatek Sammy phone. I think in general, Samsung likes to use very general lib stuff
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i don't think so...even in kernel, how it load stuffs, fstab, etc,, SD and exynos is different. maybe if to mediatek it will work as you said, but if from exy to SD or vice versa it will not work.
regarding lib probably until oreo, starting on pie seems so many changes

Will AOD work? If so I would glad to return to Oreo

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I want to be a Tester send me a Private Message with link

Hello guys,I would like to know if the Rom is suitable for the Samsung Sm-A600FN

Complete noob
Could I flash it like stock firmware? And could I obtain camera 2 api? I have A6+ sm-a605fn, it's worth nothing to me if I can't get camera 2 api, so I am more than willing to try, except that I"m a noob and have no clue what deodex is.

Happy to help
Would it be suitable for the SM-A600T1? If so I would be more than willing to aid you in your development and test it for you.