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I'm considering a move to the Note from my SGS2 (which would go to my wife to replace her aging Captivate).
Searching either returned to varied results, or nothing. The Wiki didn't seem to cover these specific questions.
The features and whatnot all look great to me, but my question is regarding some of the issues I've seen mentioned lately. An EMMC brick, screen problems, etc.
What known issues are there?
How severe are they?
Do they affect newer batches of the device?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Dungeon47 said:
I'm considering a move to the Note from my SGS2 (which would go to my wife to replace her aging Captivate).
Searching either returned to varied results, or nothing. The Wiki didn't seem to cover these specific questions.
The features and whatnot all look great to me, but my question is regarding some of the issues I've seen mentioned lately. An EMMC brick, screen problems, etc.
What known issues are there?
How severe are they?
Do they affect newer batches of the device?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
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As my sister uses the glaxy note, what I can say is that there has been almost no complaints yet. The screen is good , it rarely appears pixelated but is oversaturated. About the bricks, I believe that it was notes for a specific time frame but is fixed now.... Unlukily I completely forgot where I read that ..
Hope your questions got awnsered!
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The eMMC bug is still present, Apparently samsung are working on a fix, But there is no timeframe as to when it will be released.
Its a serious matter, But if you follow the instructions you will be fine, Just avoid doing a full wipe on a stock ICS kernel, Simple as that, Get the phone, Flash a KNOWN Safe kernel and job done :good:
Your note might come with GB not ICS, If this is the case, You can just stick with it until the eMMC bug is fixed, GB on the Note is very nice and very smooth, I upgraded to ICS via ODIN and havent seen a massive improvement, Only a few minor tweaks and such.
The screen issues dont affect everyone, Only a small number of users, However there have been a few tips and tricks to help eradicate it.
All in all i'd say its an awesome device, Id highly recommend you go for it.
Thank you both for the quick, encouraging words. Sounds like it's just crapshoot for screen issues then, which is normal for everything. I'll both the phone once to make sure it works, then I'll have AOKP on it before it can take another breath
Or wait and buy the note 2
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ive had the galaxy note for quite some time now and i must say that is an awesome device. There have been some problems such as dead pixels on the screen but as long as you buy it from an authorized samsung retailer then it should be fine as warranty will cover any hardware problem as long as it is not damaged by use. eMMC brickbug problem plauges the exynos based phones including the Galaxy Note but as said in the previous post most likely your galaxy note will come with Gingerbread out of the box and until samsung come up with a fix for that problem you can stick to GB. However even if you have ICS out of the box as long as you stay away from wiping/factory resetting and flashing any roms then your device will be ok. (Personally my galaxy note had the eMMC bug and after a wipe it had to be repaired. But since i had valid warranty i got it repaired free of charge from Samsung Service Center)
Other than that there is nothing to complain about. The screen is just great. The HD resolution combined with the big screen make it awesome for media shuch as movies and games. You also have the S-Pen to play around with. All in all it is an awesome device. If you want me to cover anything in particular, then i can make a quick youtube video, as i have a Galaxy note at my disposal.
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Or wait and buy the note 2
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With you there, but if the Note 2 ends up being worthwhile to me, which I expect it will, I'll grab one and pass the Note 1 I'm considering to my wife. We have an understanding. I get first dibbs on phones, she gets first dibbs on laptops.
I have had my note for a little over a month now and the only problem I JUST realized with this device is the Samsung touchwiz ui. I know some people like the touchwiz ui but try using a pure google aosp rom and you will get the idea of what I mean. I'm currently using liquid smooth rom(less than 24 hours in) ad I'm absolutely LOVING the pure aosp ice cream sandwich ui!
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I have had my note for a little over a month now and the only problem I JUST realized with this device is the Samsung touchwiz ui. I know some people like the touchwiz ui but try using a pure google aosp rom and you will get the idea of what I mean. I'm currently using liquid smooth rom(less than 24 hours in) ad I'm absolutely LOVING the pure aosp ice cream sandwich ui!
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I agree with you that the stock touchwiz ui rom that comes out of the box is not the fastest and quite often lags. Instead i recommend using a faster launcher like: Nova Launcher OR Apex Launcher which are miles better and faster than the stock launcher. They are way smoother and can offer quite some customization and personalisation.
Dungeon47 said:
I'm considering a move to the Note from my SGS2 (which would go to my wife to replace her aging Captivate).
Searching either returned to varied results, or nothing. The Wiki didn't seem to cover these specific questions.
The features and whatnot all look great to me, but my question is regarding some of the issues I've seen mentioned lately. An EMMC brick, screen problems, etc.
What known issues are there?
How severe are they?
Do they affect newer batches of the device?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
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Yes the eMMc affects new batches. If you get a new device and it has GB 2.3.6 pre-loaded, dont update to ICS 4.0.3 just yet. Other issues, pink spot on the camera under certain light conditions. Seems to be a batch issue, and I think it still affects new units. Search on youtube for examples. The S2 is the same, but you already have an S2, so it is comparable to the 'Note. I think the SGN is fine, most issues surround the ICS update, hence my advice of holding off of any update if you get one with GB. Is it possible for you to check before you buy? If your into rooting and flashing, have a good read on the forums, much has been written. If, like me you run it as a standard factory install, a gingerbread 'Note is wonderful.
Dude check for black clipping...there on my note big time..hate it..what's the point of a so called HD screen when no dark video is watchable..other than that it is hands down the best device..
I've just ordered my Galaxy Note and received it recently, but I was planning to wait for the Galaxy Note 2 but considering it would have just quad core and a bigger screen (the Note's one already neded some getting used to for me xD) I thought I'd just stick with the Note. That and getting it at a good price
Also, I've asked a few questions, and the helpful guys here answered it about the differences upgrading the ICS from GB, I think it might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722859
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I've just ordered my Galaxy Note and received it recently, but I was planning to wait for the Galaxy Note 2 but considering it would have just quad core and a bigger screen (the Note's one already neded some getting used to for me xD) I thought I'd just stick with the Note. That and getting it at a good price
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Don't underestimate the Note 2. It is more likely to have the following specs:
5.4" or 5.5" screen
Better build quality(maybe less plastic and more screen to make device smaller)
WSXGA+ screen 1680x1050 resolution
4G LTE built in all model
NFC built in all models
The exynos 5250 dual core cortex a15 based processor(faster than current exynos 4212)
Much better GPU
Possible RAM Increase
Better version of SPen
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For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
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The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
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Hey BarryH, long time no see. Yep, there will be plenty of development for the 10.5 S as it is likely to be very popular.
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Hey BarryH, long time no see.
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Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
BarryH_GEG said:
Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
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I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
Barry. Your a GOD. you just killed another thread with your amazing insight. Kudos! ?
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I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
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I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
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I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
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Although with my white tablet and case I feel a little like Tony Curtis in The Great Race. Just call me Leslie.
Mr Dasher said:
For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
takeadare said:
I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
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I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
aznguyen316 said:
I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
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saw a post in the TR thread in gs5 forum..."Samsung galaxy tab pro 8.4 ,this method does not work, it reboots."
Cant wait to root this sucker myself.
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I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Its not a TW issue. I think Samsung devices with Snapdragon SoC have the fully custom ROMs. Devices with the Exynos CPU's usually don't.
When it comes to roms there is one thing I look for. Speed. Unless they go crazy with colors, theming or silly fonts I don't care much how it looks since I use a launcher anyway. Although I enjoy CM I miss the Samsung features such as split screen.
I would make Alliance rom for the tab s just need to afford one lol ?
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM
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Tweetytek said:
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM!
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what an unhelpful and useless reply, really!
of course, probably you grow the cow first if you want to have some milk, or maybe build an airplane first if you need to fly to a different city. if you find it reasonable, good for you!
however this does not give any information regading upcoming Android 7 roms for N910F, or why they are not showing up (are there any issues, etc).
lisbon2004 said:
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
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It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
robmeik said:
It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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Yes I have the Note 4 (SM-N910F) and the Tab S (SM-T805) and have Lollipop on both. I am sure that as the Android 7 (Nougat) ROM gets rolled out to phones as opposed to tablets there will be some Nougat ROMs appearing for our Note 4. The person who cooked the Nougat ROM for the Tab S obviously had difficulties getting the telephony to work He says:
"Issues
Graphical glitches on rotation and screen off
RIL, meaning no telephony support so far"
- that is probably why that ROM hasn't been developed further for phones!
lisbon2004 said:
it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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The tab s has almost the same procrssor as the note 4 exynos. However yes it isnt a processor which is good for an flagship tablet but Samsung does that with all tablets, the New Tab S2 2016 edition also only has a SD652 processor, which also cant be clasified as high end..
Ok, seems like finally there's progress:
Android 7 for T-mobile Note 4
Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
Braxos said:
Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7. Upgrading Note4 to Nougat means more spending and give users reasons to stay longer on old devices, while they want you to buy a new one quicker to cover their expenses.
Upgrading Note4 would be a very noble move from Samsung, but as their previous behavior shows, noble moves are not in their habits.
negazets said:
I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have. I'm not trying to say they are stupid or something, they just don't care or the OS version is not their priority.
Plus lots of old device owners are not direct Samsung customers, that's what this business success is about: if customer wants to be on the edge, (s)he should buy new. I don't know if there's a research about how many - 2-3 y.o. flagships have 2nd+ owners, but the refurbished phone market is quite big. So, part of not so must-do investment like upgrading old phones is not only going to nowhere for the phone makers, but also creates undesired competition for their new products on some markets (e.g. like in my country where operators' offers phone+contract aren't so "sweet" like in countries with bigger number of potential customers and people would think twice if they need to upgrade with brand-new or lightly used). Note4 users are just a thin slice.
And you can't blame Samsung for not taking care about old device owners - they released 6.0.1 update for N910F not so long ago, they run "buy-back" program in lots of places. But, you know, there should be something to get you interested in buying new phone.
OK, seems like we're going off topic here
I did get the same thought about my Note4 and Nougat as soon as I heard about termination of Note7, but... I'm skeptic here. It's hard time for Samsung to invest in something with doubtful possibility to return and make their new products less valuable comparing to old ones.
I've no idea what you all are thinking, but 1. There sure as Hell won't be an official Sammy Update to 7.0. Never ever.
2. 7.0 Custom roms are far away. Since no Samsung phone is on an official stable build (afaik) there's no base yet. So the only Option is AOSP. In my experience even the 6.0 Roms aren't stable enough for a daily driver. Since a Nougat port needs some base, normally the 6.0 Rom would be used as a base. It gets a bit technical from here on, but tldr is, it's not as easy as downloading the source, copying some folders around and bang, rom...
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
jm2c
domsch1988 said:
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
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your comment regarding the lack of the first official base gives some understanding regarding 7.0 status, thanks for that!
As for the last one, p.3, asking "when" and "how is it going" could be considered rude only by really childish and immature persons.
There are a lot of people here on XDA that flash roms in their spare time too (like people that develop them), and not everyone has too much of it. we would like to have at least some basic understanding about 7.0 progress, to plan migration to the new rom (which requires dedicating several consecutive days for roms flashing, data migration, and testing). Asking when, is about planning.
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true. No one here should think that they use their phones the way we do, here on XDA. 8 out of 10 users just update their devices, because they see the OTA notification appearing, but don´t even care about the differences between the old OS and the new one. If you ask them, what is KitKat and Lollipop, or root, most likely they won´t know the answers. As long as Facebook, WhatsApp, Viber, whatever works, everything´s fine. The only difference they do care about, is battery ilfe. By the way, battery life... I´m an android user since Gingerbread. I had several devices, before i bought the Note 1, and since then I´m using only Note phones, I had the Note 2, Note 3, and now for a long time, Note 4. I never ever understood why some people are so keen on having the newest OS, because according to my experience, the newest is rarely the better... I liked KitKat, especially the X-Note custom ROM´s. Lollipop was on the market for long time, i had to reflash my phone, so i thought i give it a try. After a few weeks of being on Lollipop, i ran back to KitKat, my good old X-Note. Lollipop was a huge stepback in battery life, and i haven´t experienced any really noticable advantages. About a month ago i deciced to upgrade my KitKat to Marshmallow, just out of curiousity. A huge disappointment, again. Battery life is also worse, the overhyped permission management system is a joke, and apart from the off-screen memo i haven´t found anything useful in MM. So, as before, i went back to my good old KK, i enjoy the stability, the extreme long battery life, and, honestly, i don´t even wait to Nougat.
tompika72 said:
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true... (shortened).
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It goes even further than not careing. My own girlfriend HATES OS Updates. i told her, that for her Mate 7 there's a new Android Version out. She refuses to update because every update on every device ever (not only android, windows too) meant major hassle for her. She uses the phone as is and everything that changes anything is evil. Don't try to argue with security or such. She is just feared, that her phone won't work the same anymore. And seeing how much i flash my phone to "get it working" i can't blame her
Battery life is a topic i'm struggeling with. My inner nerd wants to get the maximum runtime out of that thing. But recently, with Doze introduced, i have some major Notification Problems. Allo doesn't notify at all or 2 days later. Whatsapp randomly delays Notifications by hours... Maybe the ever itching battery saving thing has gone to far. I mean, on a typical workday i leave at 6am and come home at 5pm with 75% Battery left. I just stopped caring. The Note 4 makes it through a day on every OS for me. And a second one if i have too. :good:
Seems like no news at all regarding 7.0 ROMs...
an absolute silence...
Several devs making AOSP/CM Roms have stated in their threads, that it's in the works. Only now some devices running stock'ish roms are getting Android 7 (OPO..) We are rocking an oldish phone with a processor/chipset that no official Android 7 phone has. Samsung has no official 7 rom either. So it's just a lot of work to get something useable.
I'm sure our devs have something bootable. But getting from there to something usable/daily driver ready is a long and bumpy road. Give them some time. We'll get it sooner or later. For sure.
I am curious. I assumed lollipop was going to be the last one I would see, since the phone is over 2 years old. I love Android 6.0.2 now. I am curious how long I might expect to keep getting updates on the phone? I cannot find any "end of life" lists for the S5 mini so I am unsure.
Also, what would a worthy successor to the S5 mini be to be more up to date?
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I am curious. I assumed lollipop was going to be the last one I would see, since the phone is over 2 years old. I love Android 6.0.2 now. I am curious how long I might expect to keep getting updates on the phone? I cannot find any "end of life" lists for the S5 mini so I am unsure.
Also, what would a worthy successor to the S5 mini be to be more up to date?
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Depending on the range of the smartphone, the manufacturers give support of about 2 years, after that they are totally forgotten (except samsung, they forget the mid-range smartphones at 4 months LOL)
To tell you the truth, we s5 mini users, we are very lucky that samsung has remembered us, almost never happens
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Depending on the range of the smartphone, the manufacturers give support of about 2 years, after that they are totally forgotten (except samsung, they forget the mid-range smartphones at 4 months LOL)
To tell you the truth, we s5 mini users, we are very lucky that samsung has remembered us, almost never happens
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Thanks. I thought it was weird when I saw an update come up for a whole new OS... I love my S5 mini again, although I am looking for an upgrade to save for that's similar size but better than what I have in the S5 mini. Closest I can figure is A3 2017 but not sure.
For now, till I get more info I will enjoy my renewed S5 mini with, now, epic battery life in comparison.
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Thanks. I thought it was weird when I saw an update come up for a whole new OS... I love my S5 mini again, although I am looking for an upgrade to save for that's similar size but better than what I have in the S5 mini. Closest I can figure is A3 2017 but not sure.
For now, till I get more info I will enjoy my renewed S5 mini with, now, epic battery life in comparison.
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Doze works very well in the s5 mini, is very good no doubt, personally I recommend using some custom rom, do not have samsung applications and are extremely fast, also have new versions of android (7.1.1 in this case) Of course they are in beta and contain bugs, but they are still very good
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Doze works very well in the s5 mini, is very good no doubt, personally I recommend using some custom rom, do not have samsung applications and are extremely fast, also have new versions of android (7.1.1 in this case) Of course they are in beta and contain bugs, but they are still very good
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Well a while back I tried to get a standard rom that was not from DBT (my handset is german, from ebay and it was cheaper) but it would not boot up. So I had to re-flash stock DBT firmware to get it to work. I remember trying Cyanogen mod on my old S4 mini but the compass did not work and a few other things. I cannot use a rom if basic phone features don't work. But with my experience of trying a different rom on my S5 mini, I bet custom roms would not work. I did get it rooted a couple times though although now I stick with unrooted so more standard apps work.
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Well a while back I tried to get a standard rom that was not from DBT (my handset is german, from ebay and it was cheaper) but it would not boot up. So I had to re-flash stock DBT firmware to get it to work. I remember trying Cyanogen mod on my old S4 mini but the compass did not work and a few other things. I cannot use a rom if basic phone features don't work. But with my experience of trying a different rom on my S5 mini, I bet custom roms would not work. I did get it rooted a couple times though although now I stick with unrooted so more standard apps work.
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How strange, it is normal that the cyanogenmod build does not work well at first, since it is a progressive development, even let me guess, you have the variant g800h?
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How strange, it is normal that the cyanogenmod build does not work well at first, since it is a progressive development, even let me guess, you have the variant g800h?
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F I believe.
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F I believe.
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That is very strange, since the custom rom of this forum work very well for the variants F / M / Y, since they are the same device but dedicated to different markets (M in my case since I am in South America), The problem lies in the H variant, since it assembles a totally different processor and it is difficult to compile some custom rom for that variant, you should try some, I personally recommend this rom, very very good, you still have to polish one or another detail, But can be used daily
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-aicp-12-1-nougat-t3565009
And if you are one of those who like to customize your android to the fullest, I recommend this rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-5-8-2-t3562523
Both are based on the latest version of android, greetings
jimmy999x said:
That is very strange, since the custom rom of this forum work very well for the variants F / M / Y, since they are the same device but dedicated to different markets (M in my case since I am in South America), The problem lies in the H variant, since it assembles a totally different processor and it is difficult to compile some custom rom for that variant, you should try some, I personally recommend this rom, very very good, you still have to polish one or another detail, But can be used daily
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-aicp-12-1-nougat-t3565009
And if you are one of those who like to customize your android to the fullest, I recommend this rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-5-8-2-t3562523
Both are based on the latest version of android, greetings
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Thanks. I have bookmarked it. Although it seems every rom I have seen has issues for some reason. Whether in my experience with Cyanogen where the compass stops working and something else which I care about, or that one and tethering and hotspot etc. I just have been kind of burned from the excitement of my first custom rom failing me on the feature front and seeing big known issues with other custom ones I have seen. Not to mention I would want to avoid having some apps refuse to work like my banking app, google apps or Android Pay etc. But I have bookmarked it though in case because it seems cyanogen mod's site has gone down, which is not a good sign and any way they never supported S5 mini which was depressing. Are there any roms that are feature-perfect with no show stoppers on the S5 mini?
Morthawt said:
Thanks. I have bookmarked it. Although it seems every rom I have seen has issues for some reason. Whether in my experience with Cyanogen where the compass stops working and something else which I care about, or that one and tethering and hotspot etc. I just have been kind of burned from the excitement of my first custom rom failing me on the feature front and seeing big known issues with other custom ones I have seen. Not to mention I would want to avoid having some apps refuse to work like my banking app, google apps or Android Pay etc. But I have bookmarked it though in case because it seems cyanogen mod's site has gone down, which is not a good sign and any way they never supported S5 mini which was depressing. Are there any roms that are feature-perfect with no show stoppers on the S5 mini?
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Cyanogen mod died, now called lineage os, is basically the same, the s5 mini, does not have official support by cyanogen (lineage os), but fortunately in this forum we have developers who take the trouble to create custom roms for We, those 2 roms that I left in the links are extremely functional, maybe one or the other does not work, but what if
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Cyanogen mod died, now called lineage os, is basically the same, the s5 mini, does not have official support by cyanogen (lineage os), but fortunately in this forum we have developers who take the trouble to create custom roms for We, those 2 roms that I left in the links are extremely functional, maybe one or the other does not work, but what if
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If I was unable to use a different country code or what ever (Like mine is DBT) firmware for the same actual legit firmware for my S5 mini, doesn't that mean a third party rom would equally fail to boot as well?
Morthawt said:
If I was unable to use a different country code or what ever (Like mine is DBT) firmware for the same actual legit firmware for my S5 mini, doesn't that mean a third party rom would equally fail to boot as well?
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I do not understand exactly what you mean, but if the question is, if custom roms may or may not work in one country or another, as far as I know, they would have to work without any problem, as long as the bootloader is unlocked , A common problem is the loss of line, ie the device can not communicate with the operator, therefore no calls or sms, but that is solved using odin and flashing the baseband (there is also a post In this forum on that)
Firmware has various ones you can get based on the carrier or country or what ever. My phone needs me to download the DBT firmware. I tried choosing one someone recommended which was also a stock genuine rom for my phone but not DBT, it was one that they said was as close to raw Android possible. I flashed it and it would not boot. They gave me reasons and all kinds of complex more indepth things I would have to do all kinds of hacky piecemeal techniques to get the other rom to work. I was not interested, using odin, selecting a file and waiting is nerve racking enough for me without having to go 3 levels more complex than that. So the only thing I could do was flash the DBT version back on the phone and it worked again.
DBT is a very clean firmware in regard to branding so no need to switch to anything else, it has only 3 apps which can be uninstalled without rooting.
As for the updates I believe that Marshmallow is the final official update we're getting, there could be a couple security patch updates though. Like many users I was pleasantly surprised that we're getting 6.0.1 considering that we're talking about a 3 year old midrange Samsung which in smartphone years is a long time.
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DBT is a very clean firmware in regard to branding so no need to switch to anything else, it has only 3 apps which can be uninstalled without rooting.
As for the updates I believe that Marshmallow is the final official update we're getting, there could be a couple security patch updates though. Like many users I was pleasantly surprised that we're getting 6.0.1 considering that we're talking about a 3 year old midrange Samsung which in smartphone years is a long time.
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Thanks.
I certainly was shocked when I saw 6.0.1 or Marshmallow or what ever it said on the screenshot. Jaw dropped with excitement.
I don't know how guys can use Samsung's BS. KitKat, Lolipop or Marshmallow they all run poorly on my mini, and there's a lot of annoying slowdowns even when just scrolling twitter.
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I don't know how guys can use Samsung's BS. KitKat, Lolipop or Marshmallow they all run poorly on my mini, and there's a lot of annoying slowdowns even when just scrolling twitter.
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I highly recommend you factory reset your device. Prior to this Marshmallow update my phone was a constipated donkey. Just slow and sluggish as hell even doing the most basic of things. I got the Marshmallow update and it did feel a lot better. I factory reset and put my crucial apps back on and my phone is perfect again.
I would really like to see video showing how quick it is. Because I believe it will still be slower than Slim6.
And when scrolling is slow I get triggered as f.
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I would really like to see video showing how quick it is. Because I believe it will still be slower than Slim6.
And when scrolling is slow I get triggered as f.
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I have no idea what Slim6 is. What I do know is I was getting ready to throw my phone in the trash and save up for a new phone, till I got the Marshmallow update. Now my phone feels like a brand spanking new upgrade after the crap experience I have been having. Snappy, responsive, everything is working well. Perfect. Pshhh not to mention idle battery life has vastly improved.
It's custom rom for F variant of S5 mini. Battery was never a problem for me on marshmallow from Samsung though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b3IbkOrkYtE
The official Galaxy Note 5 Nougat firmware has been released on SamMobile. Since Nougat is the most complete Android version in existence while also improving battery life marginally, I think it would be amazing if someone could port the Galaxy Note 5 ROM for the Galaxy Note 4 International Exynos variant (N910C).
Lol
Or the 910V!
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To port a certain firmware the device has to be on the same software level or the hardware should be the same eg: The note 7 "Grace UX" came out with marshmallow so devs were able to port it to the note 4. The next scenario is where the hardware is of the same. The note 5 has a 7420 exonys chip set while the note 4 has the 5433 chip set. So this is clearly impossible. Our best bet is the Samsung Tab s2 which has a exonys 5433 chipset and is due to receive nougat somewhere by the end of may
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To port a certain firmware the device has to be on the same software level or the hardware should be the same eg: The note 7 "Grace UX" came out with marshmallow so devs were able to port it to the note 4. The next scenario is where the hardware is of the same. The note 5 has a 7420 exonys chip set while the note 4 has the 5433 chip set. So this is clearly impossible. Our best bet is the Samsung Tab s2 which has a exonys 5433 chipset and is due to receive nougat somewhere by the end of may
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One thing that confuses me, is that devices like the Galaxy S4 and even the Galaxy S4 mini, have completely stable roms running Nougat, even though Samsung stopped updating those after Lollipop. I see AICP, ResurrectionRemix and all these other projects that create this amazingly rock stable rom for the devices, yet for the Exynos variant of the Galaxy Note 4, there doesn't seem to be any movement. :crying:
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One thing that confuses me, is that devices like the Galaxy S4 and even the Galaxy S4 mini, have completely stable roms running Nougat, even though Samsung stopped updating those after Lollipop. I see AICP, ResurrectionRemix and all these other projects that create this amazingly rock stable rom for the devices, yet for the Exynos variant of the Galaxy Note 4, there doesn't seem to be any movement. :crying:
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I used to own a samsung s4 myself before i switched to the note 4 and it was the i9505 (snapdragon variant). Android Open Source (AOSP) roms are possible only for snapdragon devices because the soc's are open source and exonys as we know is manufactured by samsung and samsung does not release the sources thats why AOSP roms are not easy to port to exonys variants. I regret switching phones because the s4 has so many stable aosp roms while the exonys variant's get nothing. Hope i answered your question
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I used to own a samsung s4 myself before i switched to the note 4 and it was the i9505 (snapdragon variant). Android Open Source (AOSP) roms are possible only for snapdragon devices because the soc's are open source and exonys as we know is manufactured by samsung and samsung does not release the sources thats why AOSP roms are not easy to port to exonys variants. I regret switching phones because the s4 has so many stable aosp roms while the exonys variant's get nothing. Hope i answered your question
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Ahh yes, I had a feeling it had something to with the chipsets. It's a shame, I paid full price recently to buy the Exynos variant specifically for modding. I chose Exynos over the Snapdragon variant because the Exynos chip is 64bit compared to the Snapdragon which is 32bit, so it seemed like a better choice given that the Android ecosystem is headed towards 64bit ever since Lollipop and so I would be future-proofing my device. Unfortunately now it seems Exynos is a lot more difficult to make roms for I guess it's almost like comparing the PS3 with the Xbox 360: PS3 has more power than the 360, but the PS3's CBE chip is so much more difficult to make games for. Here's hoping for a long and fruitful development life for the Exynos Galaxy Note 4 :fingers-crossed:
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Ahh yes, I had a feeling it had something to with the chipsets. It's a shame, I paid full price recently to buy the Exynos variant specifically for modding. I chose Exynos over the Snapdragon variant because the Exynos chip is 64bit compared to the Snapdragon which is 32bit, so it seemed like a better choice given that the Android ecosystem is headed towards 64bit ever since Lollipop and so I would be future-proofing my device. Unfortunately now it seems Exynos is a lot more difficult to make roms for I guess it's almost like comparing the PS3 with the Xbox 360: PS3 has more power than the 360, but the PS3's CBE chip is so much more difficult to make games for. Here's hoping for a long and fruitful development life for the Exynos Galaxy Note 4 :fingers-crossed:
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Also samsung doesnt advertise their exonys devices as 64 bit and marshmallow for the device is also a 32 bit os. In short samsung doesnt utilize the full capacity of the note 4's 64 bit chipset. But the advantage is that since the device and the chipset is made by the same company the phone is more fluid and responsive than its snapdragon counterpart. Something similar to googles pixel, software and hardware made by same company
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Also samsung doesnt advertise their exonys devices as 64 bit and marshmallow for the device is also a 32 bit os. In short samsung doesnt utilize the full capacity of the note 4's 64 bit chipset. But the advantage is that since the device and the chipset is made by the same company the phone is more fluid and responsive than its snapdragon counterpart. Something similar to googles pixel, software and hardware made by same company
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Out of curiosity, which rom have you found to be the best and most stable for the Exynos variant? Or are you using stock?
Xephyrex said:
Out of curiosity, which rom have you found to be the best and most stable for the Exynos variant? Or are you using stock?
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I regularly switch between stock and custom roms. The best ux based roms are Pirobot v6, Doola v12 and DN7 v0.1
If youre looking for something close to stock erobot v19 would be the best
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I regularly switch between stock and custom roms. The best ux based roms are Pirobot v6, Doola v12 and DN7 v0.1
If youre looking for something close to stock erobot v19 would be the best
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Yup, v19 seems to be the best. I've found that battery life is abysmal when on UX roms :/ plus, there are far too many bugs from DN7 that I tried. I stuck with erobot 19 and am using Samsung's GoodLock and it works amazingly well. To be honest, I'm not bothered about the GraceUX anymore; Samsung's GoodLock literally does it all while looking sleek. So I've found erobot + GoodLock is the best combo so far! Only downside, fingerprint lock screen doesn't seem to be functional, but other than that, everything else is golden. I was tempted to head back to stock rom but it seems that Samsung cloud doesn't allow the Galaxy Note 4 on stock rom to backup and restore music and other files from Samsung Cloud. The only way I've found Samsung Cloud's backup/restore to fully work is by using erobot and hence why I've stayed away from stock.
vishudha98 said:
I regularly switch between stock and custom roms. The best ux based roms are Pirobot v6, Doola v12 and DN7 v0.1
If youre looking for something close to stock erobot v19 would be the best
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There is something which I'd hoped you could help me with, I'm on erobot 19 as you know, for some reason the multiwindow tray keeps popping up randomly. It's the tray that pops up when you hold the back key but it seems to pop up randomly even when I'm not holding down the back key. Do you have any ideas how to stop that from happening without completely disabling multiwindow feature?
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There is something which I'd hoped you could help me with, I'm on erobot 19 as you know, for some reason the multiwindow tray keeps popping up randomly. It's the tray that pops up when you hold the back key but it seems to pop up randomly even when I'm not holding down the back key. Do you have any ideas how to stop that from happening without completely disabling multiwindow feature?
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I havent run into this issue when i was on erobot but that was v18 i havent tried v19 yet. sorry
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I havent run into this issue when i was on erobot but that was v18 i havent tried v19 yet. sorry
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I've noticed that whenever I receive notifications on my device and I am using it at the time, I would hear the notification sound (for example, received a new email) and then the multi-window tray opens up. Strange indeed.
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I've noticed that whenever I receive notifications on my device and I am using it at the time, I would hear the notification sound (for example, received a new email) and then the multi-window tray opens up. Strange indeed.
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Thats strange indeed. Also thats the old multi window isnt it? The new one is accessed through the app switcher
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Thats strange indeed. Also thats the old multi window isnt it? The new one is accessed through the app switcher
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I don't think it is the old one, i mean i can see the split screen option above the app card when in recents but then you also have the option to open the app tray which has a bunch of apps in it that you can open in pop-up view.
I would take a screenshot of it but the side multiwindow tray disappears when i try to.
Good lock is causing the popup. All versions after .10
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Good lock is causing the popup. All versions after .10
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Oh right, which version of GoodLock would you recommend then?
24.0.10 from apkmirror.com