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Hi guys,
total n00b question.
A friend of mine brought an AT&T Moto X (1st generation) phone with him for me from the U.S. to Germany.
He bought it from the motorola.com page directly 2 years ago through the Thanksgiving promo, never got it activated and its still stock and everything, never used before.
He paid the full retail price of 400$ at the time, does it however still come with a sim/netlock?
I thought since it didn't come with a contract (where you pay only a few $ and you are bound to a 1y/2y contract) and he paid the full 400$ for it, it doesn't have any sim/net lock?
Sadly I don't have a nano sim card to try it out, before I order one from my carrier I was hoping someone could help me out with this
I know that simlock threads are not allowed, I'm not asking for an unlock, just whether a retail 400$ phone has that lock or not?
Thanks in advance!
If it's stock and on 4.4.2 or below, invest in Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. I'm not sure if AT&T sim-locked their Moto Xs. They should provide the code for free, if necessary, though since the phone was paid in full.
Thanks for the quick reply, already looked into SuneShine for unlocking the BL (its a shame that I didn't pick the T-Mobile version over the AT&T, hmm)
But worth spending another 25$ for it!
Now I'm still curious about the sim/netlock.
From what I found out by googling and reading for hours, if it has a simlock, AT&T will not unlock it cause I've never been a customer and it never was hooked up to an AT&T account, kinda bad if you ask me for a full price cell phone... The T-Mobile version comes 100% sim and BL unlocked...
Moto chat support cant help, they didn't even know that there are different versions of the Moto X 1st Gen...
It's usually less than 20 dollars to unlock them on a website that offers Sim unlocking. Not sure if at&t devices are usually OK to do so, but I would think they are. The carriers usually charge more even... In Canada anyway. ?
OK, thanks a lot!
I'm really just surprised that if you pay the full retail price for a phone it can still be sim/netlocked...
Hope you guys don't mind asking me another few questions, I'm just transiting over from my Razr I so a few things are different
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
I'm just trying to get as many answers before I try it and find out the "hard" way it won't work and that it results in a completely bricked device in the end...
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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mmaslo1124 said:
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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Wrong section, This is the 2013 section. And this thread has nothing to do with your question, that's called thread hijacking.
So you should go to the Moto X 2014 section, and if you don't see a thread on the same sort of topic.... Then post your own thread in the Q&A section. ?
So I read an insane number of pages and somewhere I found this great page:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
Long story short, I reveived a nano sim card today, AT&T Moto X is locked, contacted AT&T via the above mentioned website, it took 2 days and today I received my sim unlock code via email from AT&T for free, no account with them needed and it works!
dagoban said:
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
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With the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 being locked, you'll only be able to flash Moto Signed Roms for your phone's CID or carrier branding. You will not be able to flash the XT1052 EU rom, or other X roms. Only the ATT XT1058.
If you are lucky and your ATT XT1058 has not yet been upgraded to Android 4.4.4 and bootoader 30.B7, you should be able to use JCase's Sunshine tool to unlock the bootloader. Note: Because this is a HACK, do NOT try to re-lock the bootloader after using it, or you will be permanently bootloader locked.
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And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
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I don't believe flashing a different ROM would give you SIM unlock.
You're only option is getting it from the Carrier if you meet their terms/conditions. Or buying a SIM unlock code from an online seller.
dagoban said:
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
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I've read different things. So I can't say for sure which is correct.
I know that the Verizon X, XT1060, initially game supporting only LTE Band 13. Band 4 was later enabled by firmware update.
But I've also seen posts of some losing their entire cellular radio when flashing other model's full roms, and not getting it back by flashing the correct rom. (I don't recall the full details, sorry!).
On other phones, I've seen things like "edits" to turn on other bands. But no so for the 2013 X.
So I wouldn't mess with it.
Thanks for the explanations @KidJoe
Until know I didn't know that a signed Moto firmware is not just bound to the model but also to a CID, always thought you could flash any region firmware over the phone as long as its the same model.
Sunshine is def. an option, I didn't take the OTA (even thou it reminds me at least once a day cause I suspected already there would be more exploits available with a lower android OS.
SIM unlock is no problem anymore, AT&T provided me the unlock key via website request (took me a while to find that link, thou) and you don't need to have an account with them and the phone does NOT need to be hooked to an AT&T contract.
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
dagoban said:
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
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You could try using mFastboot and flash only System.img... BUT!!!! Its going to cause issues with OTA updates, and having mismatched parts always increases the risks for bricking and/or things just not working correctly!! So I usually don't recommend mixing things up.
dagoban said:
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
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I've not messed with adding additional languages. Nor have I used CM as I like my Moto features too much, and stock (rooted) runs just fine here.
Made the wrong move w/out enough research and picked up a Note4 910v for my Verizon unlimited data plan account, only to find the dreaded, NOT on Verizon when it comes to rooting due to locked bootloader and Lollipop 5.0.1
So after reading much on Nexus 6 ( by Motorola) supposedly being released into the world as either only International XT1100 or US models XT1103 and all having the ability to unlock bootloader, and achieve root... can anyone who is on Verizon or has verified ANY U.S. model 1103 can 1) be put onto a Verizon existing account, 2) unlock the bootloader, and 3) achieve root access? Does it have to originally be from a Verizon account, or will ALL Nexus 6 with their Global capability be able to be added/activated in Verizon w/ root enabled no matter their prior Carrier use?
Anything to know regarding order of sequence or other gotchyas would be appreciated.
Much thanks to the power of the forum!
Yes the xt1103 can be put on the Verizon network with unlocked bootloader and root. I purchased mine from Amazon and after visiting a local Verizon store they installed a nano sim then activated it with no issues. Use the following toolkit to unlock, root and install custom recovery: h t t p://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452 .
Absolutely do NOT use a toolkit! Not until you've learned to unlock the bootloader and root using ADB and Fastboot commands. Recommending a toolkit is bad advice, because if a problem occurs in using the toolkit, you'll have no way of knowing what happened and how to fix it.
Your first stop should be http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
pollardc said:
Made the wrong move w/out enough research and picked up a Note4 910v for my Verizon unlimited data plan account, only to find the dreaded, NOT on Verizon when it comes to rooting due to locked bootloader and Lollipop 5.0.1
So after reading much on Nexus 6 ( by Motorola) supposedly being released into the world as either only International XT1100 or US models XT1103 and all having the ability to unlock bootloader, and achieve root... can anyone who is on Verizon or has verified ANY U.S. model 1103 can 1) be put onto a Verizon existing account, 2) unlock the bootloader, and 3) achieve root access? Does it have to originally be from a Verizon account, or will ALL Nexus 6 with their Global capability be able to be added/activated in Verizon w/ root enabled no matter their prior Carrier use?
Anything to know regarding order of sequence or other gotchyas would be appreciated.
Much thanks to the power of the forum!
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1100 will not work on cdma
1103 will work on any carrier
Greetings, I just picked up the Moto e5 Supra (cricket wireless). Gotta say the 5,000mah battery is awesome and the waterproofing is a nice feature. After not having an android since Note 2 I decided to move back from Apple after my iPhone 6s Plus had issues with the digitizer board flexing. Found this beauty of a phone for a great deal at a local Cricket store for $150..
I guess i have a few questions about this phone and rooting. To start can anyone confirm that this is the same as the Moto E5 Plus? Below is my phones info. Basically looking for confirmation. Also any other info on this phone and rooting/ROMS would be appreciated. it's been a while since i last had my Note 2.
https://imgur.com/a/sKRaBuO
According to this, it is in fact the e5 Plus with a different name.
I have the Boost Mobile (Sprint) E5 Plus XT1924-8 and it's the same specs. I was able to unlock the bootloader and root via the instructions on the E5 forum, just have to make sure to make a backup in TWRP.
Please help me unlock my bootloader. I have the cricket wireless varient. Says its ineligible to be unlocked. XT1924-6
It can't be done if it's from Cricket
any updates on this?
I just found this in my developer options for me e5 supra... this means I shpuld be good to go right?
http://imgur.com/gallery/xAreAmI
Cricket wireless
I am actually getting ready to start the root process myself I do remember about Motos was that the carrier didn't matter because Motorola comes unlocked . the carrier can hide that from you but the unlock process was actually on the Motorola website if you go to motorola.com or.net or whatever it is all the instructions you need are there to unlock the bootloader mode which by the way he happens to be the hardest part of the whole process all of its easy . I don't mind helping out where I can mix anyone needs it but TBH I'm not nearly as experienced as most these guys
leo2621 said:
I am actually getting ready to start the root process myself I do remember about Motos was that the carrier didn't matter because Motorola comes unlocked . the carrier can hide that from you but the unlock process was actually on the Motorola website if you go to motorola.com or.net or whatever it is all the instructions you need are there to unlock the bootloader mode which by the way he happens to be the hardest part of the whole process all of its easy . I don't mind helping out where I can mix anyone needs it but TBH I'm not nearly as experienced as most these guys
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you have the moto e5 supra and have root?
anyone successfully rooted the supra device?
pretty sure this phone is not rootable due to bootloader being locked.
im not as experienced as some folks but the Motorola site doesnt allow this device to be unl
mentathf said:
pretty sure this phone is not rootable due to bootloader being locked.
im not as experienced as some folks but the Motorola site doesnt allow this device to be unl
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will motorola allow if paid off and completed 06 months contract?
Unlocking service for Moto xt1924-5 Cricket
Skype :djpowerblog
what’s app :8765873047
supra root
I have the same phone and I asked motorola for the release of the bootloader but to date there is no response, I need to root the metro e5 plus I just got it I will try to root it, but the one I want to root is the supra, Will someone have any method?
I need your help please, maybe you have the same firmware as me
today by accident, I tried to have root access, but my device died, and I need the firmware to revive it
Contact me if you can please, by this email [email protected]
jan fuentes said:
today by accident, I tried to have root access, but my device died, and I need the firmware to revive it
Contact me if you can please, by this email [email protected]
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try the lolinet website for moto E5 Plus (hannah) if your on cricket. flash the factory firmware and it has to be a build equivalent to whats currently flashed or newer.
I have a straight talk Moto g6 which is not bootloader unlockable according to the Motorola site for bootloader checking. My question is how do you know which firmware would be potentially compatible? Because I was thinking that if I found one close enough I could possibly "trick" my current firmware which is straight talk branded and possibly flash a new bootloader which might enable to achieve an unlock. If anyone has any knowledge on that or how to achieve it I would appreciate your input. Thank you for reading.
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I have a straight talk Moto g6 which is not bootloader unlockable according to the Motorola site for bootloader checking. My question is how do you know which firmware would be potentially compatible? Because I was thinking that if I found one close enough I could possibly "trick" my current firmware which is straight talk branded and possibly flash a new bootloader which might enable to achieve an unlock. If anyone has any knowledge on that or how to achieve it I would appreciate your input. Thank you for reading.
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Being a senior member you should already know the answer to that lol. It can't be done. That would be like me trying to use firmware for the Moto g6play from the Amazon variant on my boost Mobile variant. It will only cause boot loop or brick.
ninjakira said:
Being a senior member you should already know the answer to that lol. It can't be done. That would be like me trying to use firmware for the Moto g6play from the Amazon variant on my boost Mobile variant. It will only cause boot loop or brick.
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True. Lol. Oh well. Thanks for responding.
hydroman202 said:
True. Lol. Oh well. Thanks for responding.
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Sorry if I sound like a **** lol I wish we could do voice on here because text makes me sound like a total **** on here ??
Curious to know your model number? Should be similar to Xt1926-7. Without being unlocked, you can't modify system partition so I believe you might be out of luck. I'd try the command to unlock just to see if you get lucky. It should simply fail with an error message if it doesn't work. It shouldn't brick the device. I do wonder if blankflash might be of use in this case but not sure. If you can also throw in a link to the specs of that specific model, it would help.
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Xplorer4x4 said:
Curious to know your model number? Should be similar to Xt1926-7. Without being unlocked, you can't modify system partition so I believe you might be out of luck. I'd try the command to unlock just to see if you get lucky. It should simply fail with an error message if it doesn't work. It shouldn't brick the device. I do wonder if blankflash might be of use in this case but not sure. If you can also throw in a link to the specs of that specific model, it would help.
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The model number is XT1925DL. Build number is OPS27.104-15-15. It is the 3GB ram and 32 GB internel storage. Thats all i could find out for this model. And this is what i got for the unlock command. I believe its the one you were referring to. Im not sure if it was successful because it said it was supposed to erase user data.
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The model number is XT1925DL. Build number is OPS27.104-15-15. It is the 3GB ram and 32 GB internel storage. Thats all i could find out for this model. And this is what i got for the unlock command. I believe its the one you were referring to. Im not sure if it was successful because it said it was supposed to erase user data.
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I believe it's asking for the unlock code. You have to get that from Motorola's website.
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I believe it's asking for the unlock code. You have to get that from Motorola's website.
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I believe you are correct. Unfortunately they wont give it to me because its says my device is not eligible to be bootloader unlocked. Wish there was another way to bootloader unlock it. Or maybe some other way to get the code. Although im pretty sure that isn't possible. Maybe there is a way maybe not. I will just have to do more research.
Not sure it matters but your command is wrong. Try this: fastboot oem get_unlock_data
Should look like this:
(bootloader) 0A40040192024205#4C4D3556313230
(bootloader) 30373731363031303332323239#BD00
(bootloader) 8A672BA4746C2CE02328A2AC0C39F95
(bootloader) 1A3E5#1F53280002000000000000000
(bootloader) 0000000
The command you are using is to unlock the bootloader not get the unlock code(my fault I wasn't clearer).
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hydroman202 said:
I believe you are correct. Unfortunately they wont give it to me because its says my device is not eligible to be bootloader unlocked. Wish there was another way to bootloader unlock it. Or maybe some other way to get the code. Although im pretty sure that isn't possible. Maybe there is a way maybe not. I will just have to do more research.
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Even if you aren't on the list of eligible devices, you can still request it. Only ten percent of the unlockable phones are on that list. Get your unlock info and request an unlock key on Motorola's website anyway. It'll probably work
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Even if you aren't on the list of eligible devices, you can still request it. Only ten percent of the unlockable phones are on that list. Get your unlock info and request an unlock key on Motorola's website anyway. It'll probably work
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That's what I was thinking too based on the Moto site.
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The e5 play isn't on the list and I unlocked both of the ones I had. Same with the e4 I believe. They only list the developer phones as readily unlockable. But most of them are unless blocked by the carrier. I believe T Mobile had theirs locked down.
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The e5 play isn't on the list and I unlocked both of the ones I had. Same with the e4 I believe. They only list the developer phones as readily unlockable. But most of them are unless blocked by the carrier. I believe T Mobile had theirs locked down.
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To my knowledge Verizon is the only carrier that blocks it. Seems very un T-Mobile like to block it. Times change but when the LG G3 was released T-Mobile variant was the only one that could be unlocked for sure. Verizon was locked, AT&T was mixed results I believe, Sprint variant was locked I believe but who cares about sprint anyways [emoji14]
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Xplorer4x4 said:
To my knowledge Verizon is the only carrier that blocks it. Seems very un T-Mobile like to block it. Times change but when the LG G3 was released T-Mobile variant was the only one that could be unlocked for sure. Verizon was locked, AT&T was mixed results I believe, Sprint variant was locked I believe but who cares about sprint anyways [emoji14]
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You're right. I'm thinking of cricket. And that's only what I've read in the forums. T Mobile is unlocked
I've just found out my bootloader is Verizon based. Which means that it's a no go for unlocking it. Unless someone else can think of a way or find an alternative route to generate an Motorola unique key. Which I'm pretty sure it can only be done by them. I may be wrong though.
Sorry to just drop a question, but I can't find the answer. Can the snapdragon S10 SM-G973u1 bootloader be unlocked? If not is there another way to root it?
Thank you
Chris
HelloChris333333, just when you post on a forum the courtesy of saying hello. Yes you can root just with the firmware of your model S10 SM-G973U1 US model so not compatible with EU firmware.
meric57 said:
HelloChris333333, just when you post on a forum the courtesy of saying hello. Yes you can root just with the firmware of your model S10 SM-G973U1 US model so not compatible with EU firmware.
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I'm not sure that's true, but I would love to find out I'm wrong.
In my research, the SD phones cannot be unlocked unless you are on (and remain on) an older BL version. The last unlockable BL version was 4, as I recall... if you're running updated firmware you are likely on BL 6. Even on 4, the process was not free and once you did it you could not update to a newer version of FW without losing the unlock.
For this reason, I gave up on getting root/BLunlock on my phone... and honestly, I have not missed it. This is also why I have not seen much development of FW for the SD phones anywhere.
Again, if I'm wrong, I'd love to learn how it's done!
Hello meric57
Can you share a link to the firmware I need? I just bought this phone and there is no OEM unlock option, it is a US phone. If I cannot root it I will have to sell it and get another phone.
Thanks
Chris
I guess another question would be where can I get a S10 with the Exynos chip?
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Chris
Using ADB I keep getting "waiting for device" and then I find I need to unlock the bootloader. This crap is an endless circle.
U4 can be unlocked before , I can unlock it , Special engineering documents need to be made
I'm V6 nothing available. I bought a G973F instead. G973u1 going on ebay.
Exactly, there is really no root/unlock for snapdragon phones unless you're on a very old BL (and you have to stay there so you can't update). IMO, that's not "can be unlocked" even with "special" steps, particularly since most phones today will have newer BLs (even a year ago, I couldn't find a BL4 phone)... but, yes, it's technically true to say it can be unlocked, but only in very limited cases.
@Chris33333 For this reason, I get that you may want to go to the Exynos instead... I'm curious, if you're in the US, how does that work with carriers? Does it? I've found most US carriers refuse to activate phones that don't match their list of "compatible" IMEIs... I imagine an F-series phone won't be on that list.
I'm in the US using Straight Talk with T-mobile. I've had a Galaxy S5 rooted for years. With straight talk I can use AT&T, T-mobile, or Verizon. But this international phone does not do Verizon.
And StraightTalk will activate the F-series phone without complaint or issues? If so, that's great to hear... because I know VZ and ATT typically won't...
I haven't put the SIM in it yet. Still trying to delete all the crap off the phone.
Lol
Hello Chris33333, https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10/firmware/SM-G973U1/XAA/