I have a RavPower QC2.0 charger which has one QC-enabled port and 3 "Standard" charge ports. The QC feature worked well with my old Moto X Style. I've noticed however that the charge current is the same from the QC port as when I connect it to one of the standard ports i.e. about 1500 mA. This is despite the QC indicator showing on the charger when I connect my new N8 on the QC port.
Is the N8 supposed to be fully compatible with QC2? I gather QC3 is meant to be backwards compatible with QC2 so I'm a bit confused.
Yes, it's compatible with the old QC 2.0 standard.
Recently I charged it with a QC 2.0 charger and this had the green led on during the charging (with non-QC compatible phone the led is blue).
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The QC indicator was on on my charger as well, but the charge rate didn't seem quick.
Curiously, I've also noticed that the phone seems to charge very quickly from the USB port in my car which, AFAIK, is not QC compatible! Weird.
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Nexus 6 support Qualcomm quick charge 2.0.
Can i use the note 4 quick charge 2.0 to charge the nexus 6?
Is it 9V 1.67A, or 12V?
"Giving the Nexus 6 its juice is a non-removable 3,220 mAh battery. Similar to its predecessors, the battery has wireless charging capabilities, and can supposedly regain 6 hours of power after 15 minutes of charging with a specialized Turbo charger that features Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology. We'll detail how these stats actually pan out later on in the review."
Quick Charge is a feature of Qualcomm, the manufacturer of the CPU/SoC for the phone. It is a standard for their hardware so any phone supporting Quick Charge will work with any Quick Charge charger. You want to be sure the charger and the phone are using the same version of Quick Charge (v1 or v2). See https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge for compatible phones and chargers.
I lost my Motorola charger and picked up a Power Partners 30W charger that is listed as compatible and seems to be faster than the Motorola but I didn't do any specific measurements. Typically, I use a Qi (Tylt Vu) changer and don't plug in.
QC 2.0 as mentioned above is a Qualcomm feature. Any certified QC 2.0 charger will work and quick charge your nexus or Note. I don't see he Samsung stock Note 4 charger in Qualcomms site for approved devices but maybe they haven't updated it in a while. It should work just fine. I use a Incipio QC 2.0car charger for when I need s boost on my phone or for road trips. I normally lose battery while using a non QC2.0 car charger running GPS and all of the goodies. In the end any QC 2.0 charger will work on the Nexus 6 which supports QC and you will be fine. They will also work on the Note 4.
So once the disappointment of my spank new nexus 5x not being qualcomm quick charge 2.0 compatible (I found this out yesterday) after buying new chargers and batteries (portable charger thingamagigs) had subsided I was pleasantly surprised that many of my battery packs were actually charging at what the nexus 5x calls 'rapidly charging'.
So far I can report that these chargers tell me they are rapidly charging:
Aukey 54W 5 port qualcomm quick charge 2.0 wall charger says rapidly charging from both the qc qc 2.0 port and the other ones too.
Anker 2nd Gen astro 6400mah battery says rapidly charging
Anker 2nd Gen astro e5 16000mah battery says rapidly charging
Aukey 10000mah qcqc2.0 (pb-t1) doesn't seem to do anything? Doesn't charge it at all works on the original n5 (without qc obviously). But I find this very odd? I was wrong it does indeed report rapidly charging
How is everyone else getting on with your portable power?
My guess is even though you are getting the rapidly charging rating, you are likely getting 2a of the possible 3a max charging amps. It means a good handshake for fast charge is occuring even if the source of the charge is incapable of 3a.
Here is a good article explaining it: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
I assume we should soon see actual 5v 3a charging devices come out to market.
I've replied on a different thread. You should use the app Ampere and compare numbers to the stock wall charger.
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TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.
Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.
Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607
In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?
Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.
I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.
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Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?
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But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.
Hey people,
Anyone got this charger(picture below) and managed to get fast wireless charging working? I've tried it with the original Samsung power adapter+cable and it didn't work, it's just charging at 5W. There's a video on youtube where you can see a previous note model using fast charging, so I don't think it's false advertising. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caRtqv27tPY&feature=youtu.be&t=242 , the red cable doesn't fast charge, the black one, supposedly the one that came with the qi box, does fast charge).
Also someone mentioned in another thread that the previous Samsung adapters worked but the note 9 doesn't for some reason. It's very confusing, so maybe someone has cracked this.
https://images.indianexpress.com/2018/09/xiaomi-wireless-charger-759.jpg
I fast wireless charge mine using a Ravpower Wireless charger, it does indeed charge at the 10W it's rated for, I've confirmed with an inline USB power meter.
To be able to use fast wireless charging, I have it connected to a QC 3.0 port on a multi port QC charger and it works fine. Not near it currently, so can't test with the Samsung charger. Do you have any other QC chargers you could try?
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I fast wireless charge mine using a Ravpower Wireless charger, it does indeed charge at the 10W it's rated for, I've confirmed with an inline USB power meter.
To be able to use fast wireless charging, I have it connected to a QC 3.0 port on a multi port QC charger and it works fine. Not near it currently, so can't test with the Samsung charger. Do you have any other QC chargers you could try?
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No, sadly the only one I have is a OnePlus dash charger and this one only uses 5V (you need 9V for fast charge from what I know), so it's just charging at 5W.
But yeah I'd really appreciate you trying it out, since what I need right now is just any adapter that might work.
MeggaMortY said:
No, sadly the only one I have is a OnePlus dash charger and this one only uses 5V (you need 9V for fast charge from what I know), so it's just charging at 5W.
But yeah I'd really appreciate you trying it out, since what I need right now is just any adapter that might work.
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Just tested and I can confirm, the Samsung charger did not work, I just got the Wireless charging message. Connecting the wireless charger back to it's normal port and I get "Advanced wireless charging".
Although my Wireless charger claims to support QC 2.0, I can't think of any reason why the Samsung QC 2.0 charger wouldn't work.
Using wireless charger BW-FWC5 + wall adapter BW-S6 in QC port, both from blitzwolf and i have fast charging.
cereal86 said:
Using wireless charger BW-FWC5 + wall adapter BW-S6 in QC port, both from blitzwolf and i have fast charging.
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willhemmens said:
Just tested and I can confirm, the Samsung charger did not work, I just got the Wireless charging message. Connecting the wireless charger back to it's normal port and I get "Advanced wireless charging".
Although my Wireless charger claims to support QC 2.0, I can't think of any reason why the Samsung QC 2.0 charger wouldn't work.
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Well I'm not familiar with all the details behind wireless charging so I cannot really tell, but thanks to both of you, I think the issue is now resolved on my end. I'll either just buy the blitzwolf adapter or try with another QC3.0 adapter.
I have noticed that my stockpile of "fast" chargers I have acquired and used with my LG G8 do not enable the "charging rapidly" notification I get on the Pixel 5a.
Do I need to purchase a new set of USB-PD chargers for car & a/c outlet in order to achieve the fastest charging.
My current quick charge 3.0 adaptors make this phone say "charging" and not "rapidly"
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I have noticed that my stockpile of "fast" chargers I have acquired and used with my LG G8 do not enable the "charging rapidly" notification I get on the Pixel 5a.
Do I need to purchase a new set of USB-PD chargers for car & a/c outlet in order to achieve the fastest charging.
My current quick charge 3.0 adaptors make this phone say "charging" and not "rapidly"
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Probably. If your current chargers don't support PD then you won't charge at max speeds. And if your current chargers are using USB-a, meaning you need a USB-a to USB-c cable you're definitely not fast charging.
I can recommend Anker products. The Nano pro is a sweet tiny charger.
Anker's PowerIQ vs Quick Charge vs Power Delivery: What are the differences? - Dignited
With a lot of competiting charging standards, It's quite hard to choose what's best for your device. PowerIQ, Quick Charge and USB PD are the most popular choices today
www.dignited.com
I have anker products already however they are using the older type-A connection. its a shame that google will only allow rapid charging via USB-PD spec and not the older QC-QC3.0 spec.
anker car chargers that support PD are not cheap either but I guess I should future proof myself
Considering that the 5a is only capable of charging at a maximum of 18W (9Vx2A) I am pretty sure the USB-A to USB-C cable will work, if you can find a PD charger that uses USB-A. The reality is that you will probably need to buy a PD car charger, and a USB-C to USB-C cable. I'm in the same boat. There are quite a few options, with PD and QC and 2.1A/2.4A USB charging all in a single charger, on Amazon and the usual suspects. I think the real disappointment is that the 5a only charges at 18W. The upside is that the phone not only has a huge battery but it has adaptive charging so will slow charge overnight - fast charging being bad for battery life.
You should look for a USB-C "charging" cable. Charging cables have larger wires for lower loss in the cable, but also are often USB 2 speeds for data, which is fine for dedicated charging use. It is also possible to find USB 3 charging cables. There are a number of different USB-C cables out there, including special ones with an IC to support Thunderbolt. Be sure to mark the capability of each one you buy. It is a bit of a mess.
Quick Charge works well but is not strictly consistent with the USB spec (although it does not interfere with USB operation). IIRC QC uses analog voltage levels on the signal lines to control the supply voltage. IIUC PD uses a digital handshake. I for one have been happy with QC but am glad to move to PD for phone and eventually laptop and tablet. Recent announcements extend PD from today's 100W max up to 240W max.
Android 12 looks to have tweaked Pixel Adaptive Charging so phones reach 100% closer to alarm
Pixel users have had hit or miss experiences with Adaptive Charging, and Google now looks to have tweaked how it works on Android 12...
9to5google.com
this article explains a lot. I have been using adaptive charging for the "slow" overnight on my 2nd day of use since the battery has so much capacity. I woke up the other night because of a thunderstorm and noticed my phone was already at 100% 5 hours before my alarm was set to go off. Another night I woke up to use the bathroom, around 3 hours after I had went to sleep and plugged in phone, verified it said adaptive initially and now it said rapidly! Why would a phone switch to rapidly charging in the middle of the night. I might just dig out an OLD slow charger brick from the basement cave to prevent this overnight mystery from a gimmick feature.
Will post back when I acquire a car charger capable of "rapid" charging which 18w seems plenty fast to me for most road trips.
undivide said:
Android 12 looks to have tweaked Pixel Adaptive Charging so phones reach 100% closer to alarm
Pixel users have had hit or miss experiences with Adaptive Charging, and Google now looks to have tweaked how it works on Android 12...
9to5google.com
this article explains a lot. I have been using adaptive charging for the "slow" overnight on my 2nd day of use since the battery has so much capacity. I woke up the other night because of a thunderstorm and noticed my phone was already at 100% 5 hours before my alarm was set to go off. Another night I woke up to use the bathroom, around 3 hours after I had went to sleep and plugged in phone, verified it said adaptive initially and now it said rapidly! Why would a phone switch to rapidly charging in the middle of the night. I might just dig out an OLD slow charger brick from the basement cave to prevent this overnight mystery from a gimmick feature.
Will post back when I acquire a car charger capable of "rapid" charging which 18w seems plenty fast to me for most road trips.
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I actually have a car charger that triggers the 'Charging rapidly' notification. I would link to it at Amazon, but I bought over a year ago and it appears they no longer have that item in their stock. You need to make sure on those that they have a USB-C port on them labeled "PD3.0" or I believe that makes them incompatible. The search term I used there was
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usb c car charger pd 3.0 21w
The 5a uses a USB-PD 2.0 charge protocol, not PD 3.0. Any USB-PD charger should work, as there were very few v1 devices ever made. When buying a car charger I recommend a charger with at least two ports: a PD charge port (USB-C) and a QC charge port (USB-A). The latest ones will support PD 2/3, PD 3 PPS, and QC 4 (and even 4+ and 5) on the USB-C port, and QC 2/3 plus several other protocols with the USB-A port. That pretty much covers the great majority of smart phones. I just bought a three port (2xUSB-C, 1xUSB-A) car charger. The USB-C ports are identical except that one is 30W (for phones) and the other is 100W (for laptops and tablets, or another phone). Note that increasingly new devices are requiring the PD 3.0 PPS, and there are fewer chargers available that support that. Also, higher power charging requires a special cable with a supporting IC inside so I ordered the package that included charger and cable.
My order: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003400586617.html
A good 2 port car charger with 65W PD: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002851748989.html
As has been stated, a USB-C Power Delivery compliant charger is required to charge at the maximum 18 watt rate.
Power Delivery is a USB-IF standard, whereas Quick Charge is a Qualcomm proprietary standard.