Does Oreo or Pie bring significant performance changes from Nougat? - LeEco Le 2 Questions & Answers

Basically, and I'll make this short so I don't ramble, if this is a side/wifi phone where all I need it for is gaming and music, does upgrading bring anything that people 'cant live without', or is staying with an older version that has had more time to be customized a better option? I'm on Pie right now, but it's one of those things I really can't tell without setting aside time to test/experiment and focus, which I haven't ;p

GWARslave119 said:
Basically, and I'll make this short so I don't ramble, if this is a side/wifi phone where all I need it for is gaming and music, does upgrading bring anything that people 'cant live without', or is staying with an older version that has had more time to be customized a better option? I'm on Pie right now, but it's one of those things I really can't tell without setting aside time to test/experiment and focus, which I haven't ;p
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Compared to nougat, the custom rom status of Oreo and Pie is miles ahead and better.....yes, there are some bugs here and there but those are minors and won't hinder your day to day usage and not to mention that even some of those bugs are being fixed and will be ironed out in the next few months of update.....recently the camera issues has been rectified and by the next updates, the camera should work flawlessly without any crashes.....even GCAM is working perfectly on the rom.....try Pixel Experience if you want, updates normally come on a monthly basis and the latest camera build prop fix posted at Pg 60-62 fixes many camera crashes.....
The only bugs which are left are normally based on the rom and its sources and normally gets fixed in the next update
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Yes,4k recording still now doesn't work in footej camera or in Gcam, but if you really need 4k recording,use the Filmic Pro camera, it will allow you to record at 4k with variable frame rates.
In terms of performance,there are some internal improvements but for day to day scenario it is more than enough, in short you\ll be able to play PUBG at low/medium settings at 30 fps ......
What we really need is a kernel developer who can make some good custom kernels which will help in performance improvements and increase overall stability and feature array across the board....
So, in short the custom rom status is better than ever for le 2, right now ..... and this is coming from a guy who was there from the beginning when CodeWorkz was developing the nougat rom for the device....

Well then, I guess Ill stick with Pie :0 Guess Im just used to windows, to where when 10 came out, you were able to upgrade for free from 7, and dx12 was supposedly ready to be supported, so i figured, get the new directx, get to make my OS legal, why not?
Hardly any games use dx12 still to this day. Compatibility with games and such was funky, especially with scaling. Audio software like Audacity had, and still has, bugs which arent there for win7. Hardware certificates had issues for quite a while (esp Asus hardware) so i couldnt us3 my network card.
Ive prolly gone back and forth like 4 times, until i decided to just stick with 10. So i figured there might be similar issues with a phone that wasnt planned to be updated with a new os to run better with an older version.
Hope that made sense ha

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I might buy a MI5, looking for some answers/advice

Hey folks, I am Canadian that is looking to possibly import an MI5 but I figured I should find out a few things from you all that have been living with these phones for a while before buying.
Are there any hardware or software issues with the MI5 that I should be concerned about? I have a sony z3 compact right now and it's been infamous for vibration motors, headphone jacks, and screen failures. It also has no AOSP based daily drivers.
Development seems to be pretty active here, is that actually true? Are developers dropping off from this phone or is there still a steady amount of work being done?
From the lurking I've done it seems that unlocking, rooting and ROM installing is pretty easy. Are there any permanent dangers to doing these hacks (above and beyond the usual)?
I'm aware there is some camera quality issues on non-stock ROMs, is the camera still usable? How is the battery on custom ROMs?
Is there anything preventing this phone from being a daily driver when using a custom ROM like RR? Does the fingerprint sensor work on AOSP ROMs?
I am also aware of the radio bands the MI5 supports, I should be fine with that as my imported Z3 Compact has the same bands (as far as I can tell).
Edit: I was also wondering if the IR blaster works on custom ROMs!
Thanks for reading, answering and putting up with my ignorance. I'm just looking for some answers I couldn't find on this forum when I was searching yesterday.
Community is happy to help
1. Hardware wise you have to keep in mind the phone is fairly fragile. Low light performance of the camera is a bit poor. Audio out of the headphone jack isn't great on stock MIUI, but that can be fixed with Viper4Arise or any AOSP ROM. RAM management and general performance on MIUI is "ok" - but the phone is blazing fast on AOSP + CAF. There is no component that is prone to fail that I am aware of, but I have read of the occasional hard-brick triggered from nothing more than a reboot on custom ROMs - this can be solved by flashing stock ROM in EDL mode.
2. There seems to be a steady amount of development going on - we just got the drop on about 7 new ROMs in the last month. However, there are and have been developers leaving in favour of the One Plus 3, and development is only moderate compared to its forum.
3. It's fairly easy, but a bit frustrating getting the bootloader unlock from Xiaomi, as it usually takes about 5 days for the unlock to be approved and then 5 more days for it to actually work. There is also a possible driver issue on Windows which can prevent unlocking, so if you're stuck that's probably the case. Except for the above mentioned possible hard-brick there are no additional dangers, and dare I say less so than other phones I worked on.
4. The camera is usable on custom ROMs but considerably worse. Mainly there is a lot more noise in the photos, but detail remains high. Video recording seems to be broken on most AOSP ROMs, but alternative camera apps are apparently a work around. In my experience battery life is better on custom ROMs as they have functional Doze on Nougat, but not by much.
5. Fingerprint sensor works fine on custom ROMs, even better if you consider that you can wake + unlock your phone without pressing the button. There have been reports of some people experiencing slow fingerprint scanning on custom ROMs (3-4s). I use a custom ROM as my DD and I don't have any major issues except video recording that I haven't yet bothered to address.
I hope that this information finds you well. The Mi5 isn't perfect, but I'd be damned to say that a better phone exists for $200. The camera, battery life, performance, screen, audio, and design is good and there really isn't much to worry about.
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1. Hardware wise you have to keep in mind the phone is fairly fragile. Low light performance of the camera is a bit poor. Audio out of the headphone jack isn't great on stock MIUI, but that can be fixed with Viper4Arise or any AOSP ROM. RAM management and general performance on MIUI is "ok" - but the phone is blazing fast on AOSP + CAF. There is no component that is prone to fail that I am aware of, but I have read of the occasional hard-brick triggered from nothing more than a reboot on custom ROMs - this can be solved by flashing stock ROM in EDL mode.
2. There seems to be a steady amount of development going on - we just got the drop on about 7 new ROMs in the last month. However, there are and have been developers leaving in favour of the One Plus 3, and development is only moderate compared to its forum.
3. It's fairly easy, but a bit frustrating getting the bootloader unlock from Xiaomi, as it usually takes about 5 days for the unlock to be approved and then 5 more days for it to actually work. There is also a possible driver issue on Windows which can prevent unlocking, so if you're stuck that's probably the case. Except for the above mentioned possible hard-brick there are no additional dangers, and dare I say less so than other phones I worked on.
4. The camera is usable on custom ROMs but considerably worse. Mainly there is a lot more noise in the photos, but detail remains high. Video recording seems to be broken on most AOSP ROMs, but alternative camera apps are apparently a work around. In my experience battery life is better on custom ROMs as they have functional Doze on Nougat, but not by much.
5. Fingerprint sensor works fine on custom ROMs, even better if you consider that you can wake + unlock your phone without pressing the button. There have been reports of some people experiencing slow fingerprint scanning on custom ROMs (3-4s). I use a custom ROM as my DD and I don't have any major issues except video recording that I haven't yet bothered to address.
I hope that this information finds you well. The Mi5 isn't perfect, but I'd be damned to say that a better phone exists for $200. The camera, battery life, performance, screen, audio, and design is good and there really isn't much to worry about.
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Thank you so much for the detailed response! Greatly appreciated!
This all is reminding me of the fun I had with AOSP ROMs back on my Galaxy SIII, happy thoughts! (I've been stuck in Sony's software for too long!)
What is CAF?
Is the IR blaster working in AOSP-based ROMs?
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Thank you so much for the detailed response! Greatly appreciated!
This all is reminding me of the fun I had with AOSP ROMs back on my Galaxy SIII, happy thoughts! (I've been stuck in Sony's software for too long!)
What is CAF?
Is the IR blaster working in AOSP-based ROMs?
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It's a pleasure
Well then it's good to know they run brilliantly on the Mi5 (buttery smooth UI, and I get good numbers on benchmarks as testament, see attached pics).
CAF is short for Code Aurora Forums, a collection of companies that merge their updated driver code with the vanilla AOSP code from Google.
I don't know if the IR blaster works on AOSP as I currently don't have any devices on me to test it with. I could try this weekend when I get home.
Edit: I've since arrived home and can confirm the IR blaster works on AOSP. I used Anymote if you're interested.

Best Nougat Rom by daniel_hk with all the fixes for Lenovo K3 Note

Alright guys, I spent a whole night researching and reading all the comments and discussions in a lot of threads related to Lenovo K3 Note and I just registered myself. Now, I want to install a custom rom and I found that the roms build by daniel_hk are the most reliable. But the thing is I'm not sure which one to install. LineageOS or SlimRoms or CarbonROM?
Please let me know which one is the best regarding Battery Back up, Ram and least lag ?
Also please post some significant Screen Shots of each roms Home, Menu, Settings, Notification Bar, etc.
So that I can see which one looks better for my taste.
And lastly please post all the fixes available and the best karnel.
I'm sure everyone in the K3 Note community will be helped through this thread.
Also I'm a total noob in this department so please ignore any of my idiocy as I don't know everything.
Thank you very much.
As far as I'm concerned, there are no stable Android 7.1 ROMs for this device yet. They all suffer from a serious flaw in one way or another - either video recording not working properly, video playback not working properly, poor battery life, misconfigured buttons or just random glitches and bugs that shouldn't happen, even after flashing fixes. I tried both Carbon ROM and LineageOS but I had to return to stock. Then again, the Stock ROM has poor memory management so it lags a lot. It's a shame, I've probably tried around 15 ROMs and the only one that was moderately stable was AOSP Vibe 6.0 which was a remixed china dev ROM but that has problems with internal storage glitches which causes all the userdata to be moved to another folder randomly (don't ask me why this happens, I really don't know but it is frustrating and happened twice, had to move all my files over again).
If you know of a fully stable AOSP ROM, even if it is 6.0, I'd be very keen to try it.
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As far as I'm concerned, there are no stable Android 7.1 ROMs for this device yet. They all suffer from a serious flaw in one way or another - either video recording not working properly, video playback not working properly, poor battery life, misconfigured buttons or just random glitches and bugs that shouldn't happen, even after flashing fixes. I tried both Carbon ROM and LineageOS but I had to return to stock. Then again, the Stock ROM has poor memory management so it lags a lot. It's a shame, I've probably tried around 15 ROMs and the only one that was moderately stable was AOSP Vibe 6.0 which was a remixed china dev ROM but that has problems with internal storage glitches which causes all the userdata to be moved to another folder randomly (don't ask me why this happens, I really don't know but it is frustrating and happened twice, had to move all my files over again).
If you know of a fully stable AOSP ROM, even if it is 6.0, I'd be very keen to try it.
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Thanks for the helpful information, but I know k3 note is yet to receive a fully stable custom rom. Knowing that I still want to install a custom rom by daniel_hk cause firstly the stock rom is very laggy and I cannot work with it and to my knowledge those three roms has received almost all the necessary and essential fixes already. for example the YouTube zoom thingy and the snapchat thingy got fixed I heard and many others. I think I can live with minor bugs like gps navigation not being able to be correct and **** like that. That's why I'm asking which one should I go with between these three.
Fair enough, but the ROMs from daniel_hk, whilst good, are definitely still in beta. YouTube zoom isn't fully fixed even if you flash the patch. If you go from 1080p to 720p, or 720p to 480p, you will get a zoom bug. 1080p videos recorded on the device do not play back in the gallery app or MX player, and the flashlight turns off by itself if you turn the screen off. Otherwise performance is good.
Edit: Carbon ROM is the only one with the latest fixes so I'd go for that.
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Fair enough, but the ROMs from daniel_hk, whilst good, are definitely still in beta. YouTube zoom isn't fully fixed even if you flash the patch. If you go from 1080p to 720p, or 720p to 480p, you will get a zoom bug. 1080p videos recorded on the device do not play back in the gallery app or MX player, and the flashlight turns off by itself if you turn the screen off. Otherwise performance is good.
Edit: Carbon ROM is the only one with the latest fixes so I'd go for that.
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So does Carbon Rom gives the best battery back up and uses the least Ram ?
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So does Carbon Rom gives the best battery back up and uses the least Ram ?
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Probably not, but it's still pretty good
use latest AOSP STABLE2 AKA MADos........ this is by far the most stable NG rom
btw,daniel has built latest lineage...with hdr fixed...which makes everything fixed......as daniel fixd the hdr..... now....mugik04 will build Latest RR with fix.......wait for that rom.....
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use latest AOSP STABLE2 AKA MADos........ this is by far the most stable NG rom
btw,daniel has built latest lineage...with hdr fixed...which makes everything fixed......as daniel fixd the hdr..... now....mugik04 will build Latest RR with fix.......wait for that rom.....
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In the previous build of lineage, the hotspot issue still has not fixed. I've to configure hotspot fresh everytime if I want to connect it to my PC or other device otherwise it just shows connecting and never connects. Is there any specific fix for that?
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In the previous build of lineage, the hotspot issue still has not fixed. I've to configure hotspot fresh everytime if I want to connect it to my PC or other device otherwise it just shows connecting and never connects. Is there any specific fix for that?
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Not at the moment. And there are still issues with video playback, flashlight and camera video focus.
Lineage OS 14.1 is the one I've been happiest with. There are niggles and glitches, with battery being the biggest. On the whole I accept it's still work in progress. Stick to stock if you need stability.
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It depends on what you want, no custom nougat ROM has it all....
Having tested it all, I use Resurrection Remix 5.8.2 with March 5 security update.
Battery life is about 30 - 45 minutes less than Daniel's Rom but the smoothes of the performance is better.
#1 It has super fast charging (2180Mah)
#2 GPS locks in few seconds.
#3 Hotspot works once you on it off it and on it again.
#4 YouTube works perfectly
#5 Video recording does not crash at all, with or without flashlight. Footej camera works perfectly which is a plus for me, whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, periscope works well with the camera.
#6 it works perfectly with three different custom kernels I've tried on it. (I currently use the latest Daniel_hk kernel with voltage tuning & OC)
It serves me well and since I have 2 spare batteries I don't bother however, tweaking the kernel to powersave gives me more juice.
So, it depends on what is a deal breaker for you.
I've used 2 AOSP Nougat that are very good but since all AOSP Nougat Audio recording level is low, which is a deal breaker for me, I switched to LineageOS before hitting RR Nougat.
FYI Footej Camera only works because it records in 720p by default. 1080p recording is the problem.
By the way - I got fed up with bugs so I created my own debloated VibeUI ROW ROM with a nexus feel - so far it seems to work well and no signs of lag so far. I think the lag isn't caused by the core ROM, but the add-ons that Lenovo insist on adding. If there are no major issues I'll upload it by the end of the week
Bolumstar said:
It depends on what you want, no custom nougat ROM has it all....
Having tested it all, I use Resurrection Remix 5.8.2 with March 5 security update.
Battery life is about 30 - 45 minutes less than Daniel's Rom but the smoothes of the performance is better.
#1 It has super fast charging (2180Mah)
#2 GPS locks in few seconds.
#3 Hotspot works once you on it off it and on it again.
#4 YouTube works perfectly
#5 Video recording does not crash at all, with or without flashlight. Footej camera works perfectly which is a plus for me, whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, periscope works well with the camera.
#6 it works perfectly with three different custom kernels I've tried on it. (I currently use the latest Daniel_hk kernel with voltage tuning & OC)
It serves me well and since I have 2 spare batteries I don't bother however, tweaking the kernel to powersave gives me more juice.
So, it depends on what is a deal breaker for you.
I've used 2 AOSP Nougat that are very good but since all AOSP Nougat Audio recording level is low, which is a deal breaker for me, I switched to LineageOS before hitting RR Nougat.
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So if you needed to compare between LineageOS and RR Nougat, which one would be better in terms of smooth user experience and which one do you think has the lowest issues?
Also I do really need the most battery backup I can get.
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By the way - I got fed up with bugs so I created my own debloated VibeUI ROW ROM with a nexus feel - so far it seems to work well and no signs of lag so far. I think the lag isn't caused by the core ROM, but the add-ons that Lenovo insist on adding. If there are no major issues I'll upload it by the end of the week
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Please do, I'll check it out.
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FYI Footej Camera only works because it records in 720p by default. 1080p recording is the problem.
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Using premium footej camera on resurrection remix 5.8.2 March 5th security update Rom and it hasn't crashed over two weeks....
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Using premium footej camera on resurrection remix 5.8.2 March 5th security update Rom and it hasn't crashed over two weeks....
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It plays back 1080p recorded videos ok?
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It plays back 1080p recorded videos ok?
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Yeah, it does, smoothly without any glitch.
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chococheesecake said:
So if you needed to compare between LineageOS and RR Nougat, which one would be better in terms of smooth user experience and which one do you think has the lowest issues?
Also I do really need the most battery backup I can get.
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Both are the same core but RR has a little more customization and faster charging.
LineageOS by Daniel has the best battery backup time in CM based Roms. I've achieved 5hrs SOT with one AOSP nougat. It has low audio recording that's why I didn't continue.
You can achieve faster charging on Daniel's Rom with ultimate or Vince kernel. But it comes with dt2w and takes extra juice from the battery.
You should try flashing different Rom and check it out for yourself
Cpt.mactavish said:
use latest AOSP STABLE2 AKA MADos........ this is by far the most stable NG rom
btw,daniel has built latest lineage...with hdr fixed...which makes everything fixed......as daniel fixd the hdr..... now....mugik04 will build Latest RR with fix.......wait for that rom.....
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Hdr has been fixed but with another hotspot bug replacing it
Did you face hotspot bug in RR 5.8.2?? Mugiks ?? Can you confirm? :/

Found A Bug With YouTube HDR w/ Autobrightness? (Oreo April Patch)

So I was appreciating the beautiful display on the Note 8 and it's abilities again today by watching a HDR video from YouTube on it, but I noticed something weird. Whenever I went from a bright to a dark environment, (lit bedroom to dark living room) the screen would drop to a lower brightness, then realize it's in HDR mode and go all the way back up, and it would alternate multiple times as I moved around in the dark environment. It would drop to a low brightness, pick back up to full, drop, repeat. Can anyone else test to see if this is happening with theirs too?
Settings: WQHD+ resolution, Auto Brightness enabled, Video Enhancer enabled
Video:https://youtu.be/tO01J-M3g0U
This will help me confirm whether it is indeed a software bug introduced in Oreo/April Patch or if it's my own hardware that's having issues. Thanks for the help!
I would say it is a software bug.
This was happening to me after the Oreo update, unsure what I done that resolved it though but, after flashing a custom rom and going back to stock it has worked fine for me. Using the same Oreo package that I used to update to Oreo the first time also.
I am really sad to hear about all these bugs due to OREO updating, they make me think that it has far more cons than pros over nougat, in my country no Oreo ota yet, I will stay this way until a really good oreo comes out...

OpenKirin

Has anyone tried their ROMs?
As far as I know, the Honor Note 8 is based on the same Kirin 955 (Hi3650) platform as the:
Honor V8, P9, P9 Plus
and the Kirin 950s (also Hi3650) - Honor 8, Honor V8, Mate 8.
HN8 isn't listed as supported, and I imagine that's probably because it's a rare device outside China as it never launched internationally. Hopefully rather than some kind of strange hardware difference that SNAFUs everything.
The Android 8 / EMUI 8 kernel source is available at http://download-c1.huawei.com/downl...oadId=99970&version=425799&siteCode=worldwide so if it does need something added to make their ROMs compatible, is it possible that it's going to happen?
I bought one due to it being the very last of the big screen 16:9 devices. The camera I don't really care about, as I've decided the best solution is a big screen and big battery, and a Sony RX100 with Wifi / NFC / BT. Selling my P20 Pro as the screen's too small and narrow, and development has been killed stone dead due to the no more bootloader unlocks.
Anyway, can anyone shed some light?
I have not tried it, but i read some feedback from other people that have installed it on their Honor Note 8.
It works, but it is slower. Especially when scrolling, there is noticeable lag and it is not smooth compared to stock rom. I wish there was a better rom, but it seems stock is still the best.
I searched the threads and couldn't find any mention. Do you remember where or when? It may be that optimisation for the 955 has been improved significantly since then. Though I suppose by the same token it could be total lack of HN8 optimisation that's the issue.
I haven't uninstalled the stock system apps and Google Play Services framework yet, but I have disabled them all, revoked all permissions and installed lightweight alternatives. It's a lot better, but still quite a way off LOS / AOSP based ROMs that I'm used to. General speed is decent, but there are quite frequent stutters and slow responses.
How does the latest versions of Kang compare? Much quicker?
Have the updates (application only) past B528 sped things up significantly? Chinese forums seem to indicate that B533 or later will go full release in the next week or two.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-note-8/how-to/huawei-honor-note-8-t3457185/post77410169
Thanks. Dunno why search function didn't pick that up ... I'm not very keen on its implementation on XDA forums.
Anyway, sounds positive. If official HN8 and Hi3650 support came only with the last (August) update, then I think there's considerable hope for improvement.
AOSP / LOS / RR really should be a lot faster and smoother than EMUI 8 for HN8 in its stock form ... there's so much crap on it, and some of the stock apps are really bulky.
On that note, I'd strongly recommend that anyone who's on stock disables and revokes permissions from the Huawei Gallery app and installs an open, lightweight alternative. I'm using the Gallery from Simple Tools and have it set as default. Massive improvement in speed and lack of lag. The Huawei one slows things down seemingly even when open in the app drawer but not focused.
i tried it ... issue is mainly, that only sim slot 2 works - which also serves as sdcard-slot for me a no-go but if you don't use an sdcard, try it out.
Also, camera didn't work at all
Going to wait until the next OK release of LOS / RR.
https://openkirin.net/download/
New Resurrection Remix version is out, including network switch fix and screen tearing fix (the scrolling performance issue) on Hi3650 (HN8 is Hi3650) devices.
Assume new LOS version will be forthcoming very soon too.
Will probably wait for that, but if anyone tries the RR, do post your experience. Particularly those who've tried the much better (than 528) 535 stock.
Notes:
fixed in-call mute (Thanks to Flex1911)
fixed ussd codes (Thanks to Flex1911)
fixed network switch on hi3650 based devices
added the option to disable fast charging (Settings -> About -> OpenKirin)
september 2018 security patches
based on final rr 6.2.0 sources
REUPLOAD: fixed screen tearing on hi3650
Have you tried this new version?
Is the problem with sim and with camera solved?
Hi guys
I flashed RROS and OmniROM yesterday. Quite fluid experience, camera works.
Sim1 still not working (my main focus)
If you don't use an SD card, try it out, i think it will be fun
I would really like to use it but I need the SD!
However I'm glad the camera works.
I hope that in the future the problem of the sim will be solved too.
Really!
Let's see what the new version of LOS brings when that's released. Usually it's a bit ahead of the RR build (which got released first this time).
Also, for those of you who are reporting non-functionality of certain features, or bugs, you should report it to the devs on their Telegram Channel. Remember to specify the device.
https://t.me/joinchat/HUf8EE2ekfdnT7fum5PE0w
Deep Sleep appears to be broken on Hi3650 and Hi3660 on all the ROMs. They're looking into the issue.
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Hi guys
I flashed RROS and OmniROM yesterday. Quite fluid experience, camera works.
Sim1 still not working (my main focus)
If you don't use an SD card, try it out, i think it will be fun
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Hi,
i used RR Beta 3 on honor 9. Front com.huawei.camera can take pictures, but files are not saved.

Why are you downgrading back to Oreo 8.1? Official pie issues thread

As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!
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Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!
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Thanks for chiming in.
Yay...another Pie impressions thread.
I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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just flashed official yesterday but have been on Pie beta 2 for some time. I dont find it to be all that bad. I have heard of BT issues but have not had a chance to really test it out yet. That will be tomorrow. As of now i see no reason to move backwards.
I've been on Pie since Official, and haven't looked back!
Mwyann said:
Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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Downgraded about a month ago never looked back or front however you want to put it!
Night mode it’s just a theme lol AOD had a bug or two your contact info or something like that wasn’t being shown! Alos just turn on blue light for night mode its easy on the eyes!
Tons of people have downgraded! ONE UI PIE 9 has been so rushed, it's like Samsung just make sure main things work and leave the actual stuff that us end user need to last or don’t even work..
i don’t think I’ll ever upgrade to ONE UI PIE 9 on the NOTE 9! I’m going to keep it on Oreo 8.1 and just get a NOTE 10 X for whatever o.s out then!
Note 9 runs awesomely on Oreo 8.1 what’s the point of upgrading ?
Constant bluetooth issues with my car caused me to downgrade, I agree ONE UI seems very rushed.,
Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.
Well, currently downgrading... Did all needed backups, now flashing ARL3 back, and getting ready to reinstall and reconfigure everything... for the better I hope *sigh*
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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Well I prefer getting back features that I use often instead of OTA patches and fixes. I ran my previous phones on custom ROMs which didn't provide latest patches and I was very fine with it, because I had what I though was good for me And for now, in the state Pie is right now, I feel like Oreo is better for me. After a month on Pie, I don't enjoy using my phone as I did on Oreo, so I decided to revert
CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Personally I didn't encountered any issues, my beef is with the aesthetics, seems to me that they rushed it out, the GUI is horrendous, even adjusting the DPI in the screen settings leaves us with a big and unpolished interface, icons, notification bar and everything seems so over sized and tasteless.
Downgraded the next day, for now i'll stick to Oreo.
Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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If you rely on using bluetooth hands free talking in the car, that is reason enough to downgrade. Bluetooth phone calls simply do not work for most people in the official Pie update (worked fine in 8.1). This is a very important safety feature, not to mention in some states you cannot hold and talk on the phone while driving. Wonder if someone who gets a ticket will try to have Samsung reimburse them...
carlitos66 said:
Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.
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Yes those "ghey" icons. They are rubbish.
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Only reason I'm thinking about it is I miss having VoLTE. I have sprint and with oreo there was a work around to get it. Now the only half assed way to get it is to be on wifi calling then it'll work but only for that call
Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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I would like Bluetooth to work in my car and iconx buds. Constantly disconnects. I will definitely go back when the problem is fixed.
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What are the OTA packages we need to disable in package disabler pro to stop the OTA's from installing?
Only because there is no Xposed or Substratum system themes yet (I like dark themes, not black themes).

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