Why are you downgrading back to Oreo 8.1? Official pie issues thread - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?

CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Very buggy! Big icons look like they are for blind people, who can’t find there apps! No call recording, themes don’t work! i found it so dull maybe in 6 months when it comes more stable and compatible with Good lock and the bugs are ironed out I might upgrade..
Also I only used for less the 2 days, I’m sure there was some more issues but I hated it. Oreo Rocks! Well that's my 2 cent!!
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Thanks for chiming in.

Yay...another Pie impressions thread.

I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?

Mwyann said:
I am also thinking about reverting to Oreo. After all I was fine with it. Especially now that Pie brings me the "broken" split screen (not Sammy fault but anyway), bad UI design like rounded corners and ugly icons, Good Lock still not working, other apps not supported (some themes and such). But I also know that Oreo will not be updated at all, and there may be other features that I'd miss. I want to live with my time, not refuse the future of our phones. So maybe I'll get used to... but that's been a month and nothing has really changed and I'm kind of getting tired of this.
Maybe I would revert to Oreo and then try out Pie later this year, when things appears to get better. I don't know. Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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just flashed official yesterday but have been on Pie beta 2 for some time. I dont find it to be all that bad. I have heard of BT issues but have not had a chance to really test it out yet. That will be tomorrow. As of now i see no reason to move backwards.

I've been on Pie since Official, and haven't looked back!

Mwyann said:
Does anyone else feels like downgrading too, or already did? Do you miss some Pie features (lift to wake, rotate on-demand, AOD features, night mode...)?
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Downgraded about a month ago never looked back or front however you want to put it!
Night mode it’s just a theme lol AOD had a bug or two your contact info or something like that wasn’t being shown! Alos just turn on blue light for night mode its easy on the eyes!
Tons of people have downgraded! ONE UI PIE 9 has been so rushed, it's like Samsung just make sure main things work and leave the actual stuff that us end user need to last or don’t even work..
i don’t think I’ll ever upgrade to ONE UI PIE 9 on the NOTE 9! I’m going to keep it on Oreo 8.1 and just get a NOTE 10 X for whatever o.s out then!
Note 9 runs awesomely on Oreo 8.1 what’s the point of upgrading ?

Constant bluetooth issues with my car caused me to downgrade, I agree ONE UI seems very rushed.,

Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.

Well, currently downgrading... Did all needed backups, now flashing ARL3 back, and getting ready to reinstall and reconfigure everything... for the better I hope *sigh*

Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.

Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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Well I prefer getting back features that I use often instead of OTA patches and fixes. I ran my previous phones on custom ROMs which didn't provide latest patches and I was very fine with it, because I had what I though was good for me And for now, in the state Pie is right now, I feel like Oreo is better for me. After a month on Pie, I don't enjoy using my phone as I did on Oreo, so I decided to revert

CCJ22 said:
As the title says. What are your reasons for not liking pie and going back or wanting to go back to Oreo?
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Personally I didn't encountered any issues, my beef is with the aesthetics, seems to me that they rushed it out, the GUI is horrendous, even adjusting the DPI in the screen settings leaves us with a big and unpolished interface, icons, notification bar and everything seems so over sized and tasteless.
Downgraded the next day, for now i'll stick to Oreo.

Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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If you rely on using bluetooth hands free talking in the car, that is reason enough to downgrade. Bluetooth phone calls simply do not work for most people in the official Pie update (worked fine in 8.1). This is a very important safety feature, not to mention in some states you cannot hold and talk on the phone while driving. Wonder if someone who gets a ticket will try to have Samsung reimburse them...

carlitos66 said:
Bluetooth issues between my car, actual phone and Galaxy watch - call coming in only on watch, unable to transfer to phone
Missing video recording button in camera app, now you have to swipe to video mode to be able to record, I don't know why I have to do 2 steps
Missing floating button in camera app - previously you could put recording button anywhere on the screen - useful for one handed recording
No extra volume when making a call over the ear speaker - my biggest issue, don't know why they removed it, the sound was terrible even before
No call recordings - need that for my work
and last issue - gay icons, or like circus paintings icons, the over saturated colors and nonexplanatory icons, common Samsung, this is a business people phone, can you do better than this?
I am very sorry I updated, already downloading Oreo 8.1 and will work on downgrade tomorrow. Very disappointment with this build.
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Yes those "ghey" icons. They are rubbish.
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Only reason I'm thinking about it is I miss having VoLTE. I have sprint and with oreo there was a work around to get it. Now the only half assed way to get it is to be on wifi calling then it'll work but only for that call

Venom0642 said:
Why would anyone go back to Oreo lol , you will not get OTA patches and fixes if decide to stay on Oreo , it's everybody own decision what you want to do with your phone but not a good idea to stay on a firmware that wont get support no longer, Just my 2 cent on this.
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I would like Bluetooth to work in my car and iconx buds. Constantly disconnects. I will definitely go back when the problem is fixed.
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What are the OTA packages we need to disable in package disabler pro to stop the OTA's from installing?

Only because there is no Xposed or Substratum system themes yet (I like dark themes, not black themes).

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Surprisingly little crap -but Emui = ughh!

Got my p10+ yesterday and spent some time setting it up, I was pleasantly surprised at how little bloatware there is on the phone (UK on contract)
The default setting of all apps on the home screen is poor though, it's like they're trying to emulate the iPhone. I don't know about anyone else but I like Android partly 'because' it doesn't look like an iPhone. Just as well it's an easy feature to turn off.
The multifunction action button takes a bit of getting used to as well, atmo I keep looking for the hardware buttons either side of it but it's getting easier.
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Got my p10+ yesterday and spent some time setting it up, I was pleasantly surprised at how little bloatware there is on the phone (UK on contract)
The default setting of all apps on the home screen is poor though, it's like they're trying to emulate the iPhone. I don't know about anyone else but I like Android partly 'because' it doesn't look like an iPhone. Just as well it's an easy feature to turn off.
The multifunction action button takes a bit of getting used to as well, atmo I keep looking for the hardware buttons either side of it but it's getting easier.
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Jesus, your saying the home screen looks like i phone? Just check out the settings page. The phone came full of crappy bloat. I'm in the UK to. Why can't it just be like the nexus or pixel range. My Pixel XL also feels well more responsive compared to the p10 plus. I feel there is a delay/lag when using the UI.
lol the way they stick all the icons on the home screen is very iPhone (I have to use one of them for work and I hate it).
I deleted a few apps, like the facebook/twitter/instagram stuff that I prefer to use the browser for because I don't need a notification pushed to me every time somebody posts on any of them. I also got rid of some of the Huawei stuff but it only took ten minutes of checking things out and deciding I didn't want them. It may be that Three didn't want as much as some other providers on the phone, I don't know.
Re lag, I've not noticed any, the phone seems more responsive (so it should) than my Oneplus2. I'll miss not being able to change the led notification colour and I want to use a different launcher but can't get it to stick. NFC is good, battery seems very good so far and the camera of course is great.
Nova launcher is definitely the way to go with emui. Solves the majority of issues for me with regards to look and feel.
I prefer ADW myself but it looks like I might have to upgrade to v2
I couldn't get Nova Launcher to work for me. It installed alright, but it wouldn't stay up. What steps did you take?
Go into Settings, then Apps, the hit the Settings tab at the bottom, then Default App Settings and then Launcher to choose which one to use.
Thankfully you only have to do it once...
Hey Folks
Has there been an OTA for the UK yet... Ive just unboxed my P10+.. and its on B120 (March 2017) but theres no OTA or anything on HiSuite.
So whats the C432 B130 EU rom i keep seeing online
Any Advice

Does Oreo or Pie bring significant performance changes from Nougat?

Basically, and I'll make this short so I don't ramble, if this is a side/wifi phone where all I need it for is gaming and music, does upgrading bring anything that people 'cant live without', or is staying with an older version that has had more time to be customized a better option? I'm on Pie right now, but it's one of those things I really can't tell without setting aside time to test/experiment and focus, which I haven't ;p
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Basically, and I'll make this short so I don't ramble, if this is a side/wifi phone where all I need it for is gaming and music, does upgrading bring anything that people 'cant live without', or is staying with an older version that has had more time to be customized a better option? I'm on Pie right now, but it's one of those things I really can't tell without setting aside time to test/experiment and focus, which I haven't ;p
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Compared to nougat, the custom rom status of Oreo and Pie is miles ahead and better.....yes, there are some bugs here and there but those are minors and won't hinder your day to day usage and not to mention that even some of those bugs are being fixed and will be ironed out in the next few months of update.....recently the camera issues has been rectified and by the next updates, the camera should work flawlessly without any crashes.....even GCAM is working perfectly on the rom.....try Pixel Experience if you want, updates normally come on a monthly basis and the latest camera build prop fix posted at Pg 60-62 fixes many camera crashes.....
The only bugs which are left are normally based on the rom and its sources and normally gets fixed in the next update
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Yes,4k recording still now doesn't work in footej camera or in Gcam, but if you really need 4k recording,use the Filmic Pro camera, it will allow you to record at 4k with variable frame rates.
In terms of performance,there are some internal improvements but for day to day scenario it is more than enough, in short you\ll be able to play PUBG at low/medium settings at 30 fps ......
What we really need is a kernel developer who can make some good custom kernels which will help in performance improvements and increase overall stability and feature array across the board....
So, in short the custom rom status is better than ever for le 2, right now ..... and this is coming from a guy who was there from the beginning when CodeWorkz was developing the nougat rom for the device....
Well then, I guess Ill stick with Pie :0 Guess Im just used to windows, to where when 10 came out, you were able to upgrade for free from 7, and dx12 was supposedly ready to be supported, so i figured, get the new directx, get to make my OS legal, why not?
Hardly any games use dx12 still to this day. Compatibility with games and such was funky, especially with scaling. Audio software like Audacity had, and still has, bugs which arent there for win7. Hardware certificates had issues for quite a while (esp Asus hardware) so i couldnt us3 my network card.
Ive prolly gone back and forth like 4 times, until i decided to just stick with 10. So i figured there might be similar issues with a phone that wasnt planned to be updated with a new os to run better with an older version.
Hope that made sense ha

What a disappointing update!!

For a $1000 phone Samsung should be much better at their updates and more caring for their premium customers!!
On Android pie, things were stuttering, the fingerprint sensor takes 3 seconds until the screen wakes up, everything felt slow and battery life really sucked! Right now I'm on Oreo 8.1 and everything is just so smooth and efficient, why can't android pie be the same and Samsung just do something right for once??!!
This is the last time I'm buying a Samsung phone! And yes I've been using every single android pie custom ROM here on XDA and they all have the same problems....
I am not experiencing your issues after the update. Everything is smooth and clean. I did a Fresh factory wipe though.
Have you tried wiping the Cache Partition in Recovery Mode? If that doesn't work then back up your data and perform a hard factory reset. That should resolve your issue.
Will try, but I got the phone like 2 weeks ago and I think I have already done that but will try again and see thanks!
Supracer said:
Will try, but I got the phone like 2 weeks ago and I think I have already done that but will try again and see thanks!
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Clean flash it via ODIN and with full wipe (CSC and not home_csc - will delete ALL of your data (except SD card), so be careful!). Then give it a 1-2 weeks to settle down, it's not the smoothest thing in the world, but defo it's not that bad and it's better than oreo.
high_voltage said:
Clean flash it via ODIN and with full wipe (CSC and not home_csc - will delete ALL of your data (except SD card), so be careful!). Then give it a 1-2 weeks to settle down, it's not the smoothest thing in the world, but defo it's not that bad and it's better than oreo.
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Will be trying that out tonight and will report back in 10 days ??
I've NEVER done a full wipe and fresh install except when installing a rom or beta version outside of Samsungs own processes. I've never had any problems either and it saves a whole load of pain doing a full install. I DO always do a cache partition wipe in the boot menu. Helps clean things up.
Just my tip.
Wiping cache (or everything if that doesn't work) is the first thing to try when facing issues like this. Especially if nobody else seems to be having similar problems. This is hardly a reason to pull a "I'm never shopping here again!".
Supracer said:
For a $1000 phone Samsung should..
This is the last time I'm buying a Samsung phone!.
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For a moment I thought I was on the official Samsung Members beta app forum.
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So after erasing everything, flashing stock and waiting for more than 10 days as you guys said so the system can optimise I still say 9.0 update is disappointing after switching from the mate 9.... The fingerprint is as fast now yes, battery life is disappointing, when I get a message notification the time it takes to open the app is just embarrassing for a phone like this. I don't know maybe I'll try treble ROMs or I'll sell the phone. Thanks for all the help
Bluetooth issues, no DSD playback, choppy, SBC codecs!!
I contacted support and after troubleshooting I made them submit a Bug Report.
UHQA Ultra High Quality Audio is broken, meaning playback of DSD 64 and 128 is broken and choppy.
We wipe clean it, tried even to push a patch and nada!!
What is more dumb is that UHQ audio for analog headphones work, yet when in bluetooth is broken.
Also Pro mode for video recording was removed.
They love to remove stuff when a new Note is coming up.
Sadly Samsung is becoming more and more like Apple.
On the phone the girl even tried to sell me the Galaxy Buds, and I said if you are sending them free, sure, but No thanks.
Broken 24 bit music playback sucks when you have a library of Flac music.
Contact support and push them to file a Bug report, to keep some pressure on.
My phone is working great on the latest update. Nothing is slow and my battery life is very good. I also appreciate a lot of the new features and changes.
bluefish196 said:
I contacted support and after troubleshooting I made them submit a Bug Report.
UHQA Ultra High Quality Audio is broken, meaning playback of DSD 64 and 128 is broken and choppy.
We wipe clean it, tried even to push a patch and nada!!
What is more dumb is that UHQ audio for analog headphones work, yet when in bluetooth is broken.
Also Pro mode for video recording was removed.
They love to remove stuff when a new Note is coming up.
Sadly Samsung is becoming more and more like Apple.
On the phone the girl even tried to sell me the Galaxy Buds, and I said if you are sending them free, sure, but No thanks.
Broken 24 bit music playback sucks when you have a library of Flac music.
Contact support and push them to file a Bug report, to keep some pressure on.
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UHQ audio doesn't work with Bluetooth, it's by design because it's not how Bluetooth works.
When using Bluetooth you don't use the built-in DAC/amp of your phone.
Numerical audio data are sent to your Bluetooth device that do the numeric to analogic coversion and the amp part. So it's your Bluetooth device that must supports UHQ, but your phone must supports a Bluetooth version with enough bandwidth to do so.
On PIE I no longer have many camera options I found useful. Make volume key lens zoom. Add second floating shutter release button. Good Lock quick star sucks re editing and options. I detest the new icons and I hate when the mess with my interface ie. They moved or removed many things I have muscle memory for. Should I blame Google or Samsung?
@up, i have similar opinion. So a week ago I back to Oreo. Again i have everything well.
Note 9 oreo is the perfect phone!
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Have you tried checking the Camera Settings Menu? I was able to chance the settings of the volume buttons to either zoom or take a picture in there.
iceepyon said:
Have you tried checking the Camera Settings Menu? I was able to chance the settings of the volume buttons to either zoom or take a picture in there.
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I don't have any option for that in my camera settings. Maybe I should clear partition cache?
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On PIE I no longer have many camera options I found useful. Make volume key lens zoom. Add second floating shutter release button. Good Lock quick star sucks re editing and options. I detest the new icons and I hate when the mess with my interface ie. They moved or removed many things I have muscle memory for. Should I blame Google or Samsung?
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"Press volume key to" and "Floating Shutter location" are under "Shooting methods" in the camera settings.
Doesn't matter who you blame. They'll continue to make $$ regardless.
RGardner said:
"Press volume key to" and "Floating Shutter location" are under "Shooting methods" in the camera settings.
Doesn't matter who you blame. They'll continue to make $$ regardless.
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I just saw that right before I checked this thread lol. I love how they bury settings in sub menus after updates.

New firmware?

Hi guys is any of you guys has new firmware? 4_22B?
if you do how tp get it?
https://ibb.co/nbkqdfs
echocae said:
Hi guys is any of you guys has new firmware? 4_22B?
if you do how tp get it?
https://ibb.co/nbkqdfs
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How to get it... apply for a job @ Nokia.... learn the definition of the last character of the firmware build... it says B guess what it means.
So unless it gets leaked, which most likely won't happen, you've to wait for an A
Hawkysoft said:
How to get it... apply for a job @ Nokia.... learn the definition of the last character of the firmware build... it says B guess what it means.
So unless it gets leaked, which most likely won't happen, you've to wait for an A
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well if B is Beta.. then A.. is Alpha... so we need F.. Full Version...:laugh:
That looks legit and could be the new release. I wouldn't pay much attention to the letters. There's new builds of touch and camera firmware, which could mean lesser issues with the fingerprint sensor and the camera errors.
Apparently nokia said via Twitter that they had some one time issue in getting the security release on time. That we should expect a FM this week. Not sure if it is true. But I'm disappointed that they don't honor the Android One promise
I'd much rather prefer they get the update right in terms of fixing whatever camera issues/fingerprint sensor they resolved than getting it sooner half-baked that will require yet another update.
My stable version has a F in the end
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I'd much rather prefer they get the update right in terms of fixing whatever camera issues/fingerprint sensor they resolved than getting it sooner half-baked that will require yet another update.
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Yeah for the camera I don't mind to wait. But for the security updates I do mind to wait as this is a separate update that has nothing to do with camera
There is updateV.4.22C .Just instaling ( in Poland )
Netherlands as well
India!
Also in Spain.
New update build number
I just updated to the latest update, fingerprint enrollment hasbeen update, Its quite reliable and has a more success rate, still slow but I don't mind it since not tell me to press harder like before, hope it gets better with future updates.:laugh:
Never mind fingerprint. Camera is what most people bought this phone, and it was horiblle also ( I mean app ).Lot's of bugs
Any release notes?
Just applied update
Fingerprint reader is now perfect though aesthetically the small brackets around the thumbprint distract. Can't say anything about camera.
250Mb. Took a very long time to install over a fast wifi connection. I was afraid that I had bricked my phone.
United States. T-Mobile. Unlocked phone.
The bug in translation in Camera app still present (bokeh). Fingerprint sensor almost as ****ty as it was. I deleted all fingerprints and added four new. Press harder...
FP still ****.. maybe due to screen protector too thick...
Camera is improve littlebit Manual still have bug eventhou u set the shutter speed still go automatic
Pro mode is still buggy i think..When cam set to "ISO prority" ( ISO set on 100 ) assuming, that camera mesures exposition automatically, the time suppose to be selected in auto position, and it all suppose to give proper exposition. But when ISO is set , time goes itself to 1/33 sec, that gives total underexposition. Time has to set manually based on the display preview to have things to work. So does it mean, that in Pro mode exposition hase to be set manually, or it is another bug? Timer sound in Cam app ,still not working correctly
No... In pro mode everything is manual

What Are The Most Common Pie Upgrade issues?/Warnings? Possible to Roll Update back?

Didn't know if this has been made yet but is there a comprehensive list of the most common Android Pie Issues or things to be aware of moving from Oreo or Nougat to Pie?
I myself am on a T Mobile Note 8. I've been holding off on updating because I don't know enough of what they take away and what breaks.
The only thing I know of is that Device Maintenance Edge panel is gone. I use that Edge panel quite a bit.
Call recorder its gone too.
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some suffer poor batt life
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some suffer poor batt life
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Im well with this, fell good performent battery
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J.Elis85 said:
Call recorder its gone too.
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Call recorder? What is that?
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Call recorder its gone too.
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No. I have the call recorder on my N950N running Pie. Some countries have the call recorder disabled due to legal restrictions
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Initially I was worried that the battery performance had declined, but after about a weeks usage I have found that the battery life is even better! It does take time for the update to settle in!
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Has the update been worth it? And can you rollback?
yes, it is possible, to any firmware with bootloader version 5
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yes, it is possible, to any firmware with bootloader version 5
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how can I install Pie without changing my bootloader?
i am not sure whether this problem of mine was before pie or not but i just started to notice it now..
my issues is with the push notifications delayed/not receiving while on mobile data but works fine when connected wo wifi. the "push notification tester" app also shows success every single time while i am connected to wifi while on mobile data it is not! it works for a while and then after it never pushes the notifications leaving notifications to come through only on opening the app.
also the internet connectivity in general with the mobile data works fine like chrome browsing, news, etc.. only the notification are affected. upon googling the same i am seeing a lot of folks complaining on the same with different network/carrier/service providers but there hasn't been one working solution for the same
has any one faced anything similar with the recent android versions - oreo or pie ? have any solutions pls ??
Things missing from oreo in pie I've noticed and had to go back to oreo.no edge lighting in samsung music,no apps work to hide the status bar for full immersive ,substratum don't work on pie so can't remove the Battery percent from always on display, really poor battery life 5 hours screen on time vs 8 hours on oreo, super ugly childish ui,wasted space at top of ui ,lots of stutters and a bit of lag here and there where there was none on oreo,one ui is not consistent throughout the entire ui colours messed up in certain apps so hard to read text .not all apps are updated to have the one ui look.camera layout sucks,audio quality volume goes up and down sometimes in headphones.bixby key can't be stopped like in oreo,clock in upper left and cant be put back to the right,can't use custom wallpaper in messaging app, Plus much more .I'm so glad I'm on oreo pie is not buit for the note 8 note 9 s8 or s9 imo
Ps smart lock was terrible on pie aswell it pretty much did not work
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Things missing from oreo in pie I've noticed and had to go back to oreo.no edge lighting in samsung music,no apps work to hide the status bar for full immersive ,substratum don't work on pie so can't remove the Battery percent from always on display, really poor battery life,ugly childish ui,wasted space at top of ui ,lots of stutters and a bit of lag here and there where there was none on oreo,one ui is not consistent throughout the entire ui colours messed up in certain apps so hard to read text .not all apps are updated to have the one ui look.camera layout sucks,audio quality volume goes up and down sometimes in headphones.bixby key can't be stopped like in oreo,clock in upper left and cant be put back to the right,can't use custom wallpaper in messaging app, Plus much more .I'm so glad I'm on oreo pie is not buit for the note 8 note 9 s8 or s9 imo
Ps smart lock was terrible on pie aswell it pretty much did not work
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How were you able to go back down to Oreo?! I thought that was not possible. Were you using stock Pie?
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How were you able to go back down to Oreo?! I thought that was not possible. Were you using stock Pie?
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I have 2 note 8 UK unlocked and uk ee the ee phone auto updated after I kept on delaying the update 9 times.i did not roll back I'm using my unlocked uk note 8 that was still on oreo .I used bk to block the promt.but I hear you can roll back from pie to oreo using Odin. But I'm not good with things like that.i sold my ee note 8 that got pie forced into it as the phone was ruined.its a disgrace that Sammy forced us to update and ruin our beloved phones

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