Unlocked S10--any features lost on Google Fi - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

I have tried to read through the threads already in place about the unlocked vs carrier versions of the S10 but haven't found the answer to my question. If I've missed it, I apologize.
I'm currently on Google Fi and I pre-ordered the unlocked S10 from Samsung. I'm trying to confirm if I'm going to lose any features on this unlocked version vs if I had gone with a carrier version. I was planning on swapping it with my Pixel 2XL on my Google Fi service but I'm wondering if I'll lose any features over getting a carrier loaded version. I'm thinking of things like wifi calling or other things. My current Pixel 2 is also using an e-sim so will that be an issue?
I had gone as far as wondering if loading a T-mobile sim on when it first boots would be necessary (for the feature enabling) and then moving it over to my Fi account. I'm also not really a firmware flashing expert so maybe I'm overthinking this. I'd love your input.

Unlocked S10 will work fine on Google Fi.
However, given that the phone is "Compatible with Fi" and not "Designed for Fi", you won't have access to the network switching feature, limited Wifi Calling, no Fi VPN security, and RCS only through Android Messages.

What do you mean by limited wifi calling? It is the feature I am most interested in.

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WiFi Calling (EE UK) -> Phone Purchased Indirectly.

Hello Friends,
Having Googled Up & Down accross the Interwebs, I am frankly Stumped.
The UK Mobile Network EE offers the P8 Lite (2017 Model) (PRA-LX1) with Wifi calling directly.
Until recently they had web posts saying this phone is WiFi Calling compatible whether purchased from EE or indirectly.
However this is not the case. My Version was purchased unlocked, from Carphone Warehouse UK.
I have force updated the firmware to PRA-LX1C432B191.
I cannot get the Wifi Calling option to Display (Or VOLTE)
However B191 firmware is supposed to support VOLTE & WiFi Calling.
Suspect either some custom apps or configurations exist on the EE provided phone that is not on My handset.
I am Happy to root, Mod, Unlock and try to enable this option.
Where do I start looking? Could you tell me where I can find the right firmware,
or mods, hacks or changes to enable this feature?
Why would the EE shipped phone have wifi calling but the unbranded unlocked version not?
It is the very highly strange situation.
Cheers friends, looking forward to your insights and suggestions.
WiFi calling may need to be enabled on your account by EE tech support, this used to be the case a few years back when I was a tech support agent for them.
Confirmed, wificalling is enabled on my account,
They also did a network refresh on my account.
Still cant see the option.
*bump* anyone can help me enable wifi calling feature on this device?
the rom should support it
I'm in a similar situation, although I am still stock at LX1C432B115. Can I ask how you force updated to 191?
I had a look at an EE handset and that had the build PRA-LX1C440B163 and the wifi calling menu items were visible. I had wondered whether flashing that (or the latest ee build C44?) onto the phone was possible\the easiest way to get it working.

Flashed AT&T Firmware to my unlocked Note9, no VoLTE?

So I tried digging around and haven't found any similar situations. I flashed the ATT firmware to my Unlocked Note 9. I get WiFi calling and Visual Voice Mail. However, under Settings -> Connections -> Mobile Networks there is no options for "Enhanced LTE services" or something like that. I also do not get e VoLTE symbol in the status bar like I've seen on others devices. Am I missing something? Should I try swapping the SIM card? Any insight would be great. Cheers!
Naterade said:
So I tried digging around and haven't found any similar situations. I flashed the ATT firmware to my Unlocked Note 9. I get WiFi calling and Visual Voice Mail. However, under Settings -> Connections -> Mobile Networks there is no options for "Enhanced LTE services" or something like that. I also do not get e VoLTE symbol in the status bar like I've seen on others devices. Am I missing something? Should I try swapping the SIM card? Any insight would be great. Cheers!
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It's been discussed a lot here. The basic ideal is that AT&T, moreso than any other carrier, likes to restrict features from devices they didn't sell. It's done by the IMEI on the line. Firmware is one part of the equation, as you've discovered, but certain things just will not work without more steps.
Essentially, here's the process: Find a real AT&T device capable of VoLTE. Swap the IMEI of that device onto your line temporarily by placing your SIM card in it. You might also have to call AT&T and have them swap the IMEI on your line while the SIM is in. Have AT&T unblock the VoLTE feature. Put the SIM back in the device you actually want to use.
if I buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy i should not see this problem with my T-Mobile sim card right?
alher591 said:
if I buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy i should not see this problem with my T-Mobile sim card right?
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T-Mobile doesn't care at all where you bought your device. And most features work on unlocked, too. Missing from U1 on TMB:
- Video calling
- Native digits
If you flash to U, you get literally everything the network can do.
I have a AT&T Note 9 and I don't have the VoLTE listed in that area
It must be on by default (hardcoded) or is listed in another area

Activate Wi-Fi Calling on 4XL via command? I've seen it...

Wi-Fi calling is no longer working on my 4XL. I have Verizon on an unlocked 4XL.
The options are completely missing. I've spent over 4 hours on the phone with Verizon tier 2 tech support and gotten nowhere. They insist that Wi-Fi calling is active on my account/line and that its an issue on my phone.
I should mention I have a dual SIM setup running both Verizon and T-Mobile, T-Mobile is an eSIM. That said BOTH worked fine until I popped my Verizon SIM into a Verizon Mi-Fi and the SIM from the Mi-FI into my 4XL.
Verizon said they could see the two units reprovisioned but as far as Wi-Fi calling on the 4XL, it's active and SHOULD work but its almost like the Verizon software is blocking it the settings from even showing. I have NO options for Wi-Fi calling under the phone settings anywhere, they are gone but I do still see them for the T-Mobile eSim.
I remember back in the day Verizon blocked Wi-Fi calling on Pixel devices that were unlocked and or not Verizon branded. There was a command-line you could run to "unhide" the settings and turn them on.
Does anyone have anything like this for the 4XL? Verizon said I may need to completely factory wipe my 4XL but I have it setup perfectly, I really do not want to do that if possible.
Thanks!
I use 2 SIMs as well. My T-Mobile account is ESIM and my Visible is physical sim. I have no issues with WiFi calling on both. I attached a screenshot, do you see the same menus as me? Also, is your Google pixel the Google store variant or a carrier?
Here is my TMobile settings.

PSA: Unlocked Pixel 5 compatibility on Verizon - good news

Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but you do have to do the same trick to unlock the bootloaders on the OG Pixels by blowing through the setup and not inserting your until after the bootloader is unlocked.
Yes, carrier services work, not sure about video calling, but I am sure it will come on in time. VoLTE/Vo5G ( the tech that allows for you to use the internet while on a call) and WiFi calling does work; My Best Buy rep said carrier services would not work, but here we are.
Yes, 5G does still work.
I couldn't find a straight answer for those questions; so here we are.
How I found out:
After my beloved Pixel 3a XL started to give up the ghost, I began my search for a new phone. I wanted it to work on 5G and be able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon as my carrier (it's paid for) and as I did some more research, I found out that only Verizon created phones would work with their 5G network; ultra wide band. I know they love to lock down their phones from consumers in the name of security, so it seemed like every device I looked at either had an non-unlockable bootloader or it would not work on Verizon's 5G. However, after attempting to order a 4a 5G, I accidentally clicked on the Pixel 5 listing and then I noticed in the print of the carrier selection, it doesn't state that the Pixel 5 unlocked won't work with Verizon's 5G, unlike the unlocked Pixel 4a's note saying it will not work on Verizon 5G. So I bit a bullet and spent $726 at Best Buy to test a theory. After picking up the phone, I blew through the setup, not putting in my sim nor entering in any google account info and went straight into enabling OEM unlocking. I did have to connect to WiFi and then reboot. After the reboot and a few minutes, I was able to turn the OEM unlocking switch to on. I unlocked the boot loader and was able to proceed to setting up the phone normally. After setting up the phone, I drove over to a part of town that I knew had 5G, and low and behold, everything worked. Even VoLTE (or Vo5G now?) and WiFi calling works. I am unsure about video carrier calling however, I know that can take some time to pop up. I believe this is the only 5G compatible phone on Verizon that can unlock the bootloader at this time, however, this price tag is not worth it for me. I am going to wait until 5G is more wide spread, then I will consider upgrading.
Every single Pixel 5 sold in the US will connect to Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband. When you say unlocked do you mean bootloader unlocked or carrier unlocked? If you bought a Verizon or carrier locked P5 at BB then no matter what you do you cannot bootloader unlock. So you probably got an unlocked device (as per the price you paid) and you can both bl unlock and connect to any network. There was no need to so the wifi thing you did because you could always bl unlock a carrier unlocked device.
Of course the 4a will not work with 5G. It's not a 5G compatible phone. Once again, any 5G Pixel phone sold in the US, the P5 or the P4a 5G, will connect to UW Band Verizon network if you use them as your carrier.
Can I use both T-Mobile and verizon 5G at the same time , as I presently do on my Iphone on an unlocked pixel 5
themarinesurveyor said:
Can I use both T-Mobile and verizon 5G at the same time , as I presently do on my Iphone on an unlocked pixel 5
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Yes.
Can y
reagan1998 said:
Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but you do have to do the same trick to unlock the bootloaders on the OG Pixels by blowing through the setup and not inserting your until after the bootloader is unlocked.
Yes, carrier services work, not sure about video calling, but I am sure it will come on in time. VoLTE/Vo5G ( the tech that allows for you to use the internet while on a call) and WiFi calling does work; My Best Buy rep said carrier services would not work, but here we are.
Yes, 5G does still work.
I couldn't find a straight answer for those questions; so here we are.
How I found out:
After my beloved Pixel 3a XL started to give up the ghost, I began my search for a new phone. I wanted it to work on 5G and be able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon as my carrier (it's paid for) and as I did some more research, I found out that only Verizon created phones would work with their 5G network; ultra wide band. I know they love to lock down their phones from consumers in the name of security, so it seemed like every device I looked at either had an non-unlockable bootloader or it would not work on Verizon's 5G. However, after attempting to order a 4a 5G, I accidentally clicked on the Pixel 5 listing and then I noticed in the print of the carrier selection, it doesn't state that the Pixel 5 unlocked won't work with Verizon's 5G, unlike the unlocked Pixel 4a's note saying it will not work on Verizon 5G. So I bit a bullet and spent $726 at Best Buy to test a theory. After picking up the phone, I blew through the setup, not putting in my sim nor entering in any google account info and went straight into enabling OEM unlocking. I did have to connect to WiFi and then reboot. After the reboot and a few minutes, I was able to turn the OEM unlocking switch to on. I unlocked the boot loader and was able to proceed to setting up the phone normally. After setting up the phone, I drove over to a part of town that I knew had 5G, and low and behold, everything worked. Even VoLTE (or Vo5G now?) and WiFi calling works. I am unsure about video carrier calling however, I know that can take some time to pop up. I believe this is the only 5G compatible phone on Verizon that can unlock the bootloader at this time, however, this price tag is not worth it for me. I am going to wait until 5G is more wide spread, then I will consider upgrading.
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Can you kindly provide the instructions to unlock the bootloader for verizon phone?
hamooz92 said:
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Can you kindly provide the instructions to unlock the bootloader for verizon phone?
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You can't unlock the bootloader on any Verizon branded device since the Pixel 3

VoLTE and WIFI calling in US

Hi everyone,
Have a global version of X5 Pro.
Trying to make VoLTE and VoWIFI working on T-Mobile in US but no luck.
No toggles in SIM settings and toggles in Phone Info are grayed out.
Any ideas to activate it?
Same with me, I started another thread or two concerning this issue but I believe it has to do with T-Mobile's VoLTE/Wifi-calling provisioning relative to the Find X5 Pro's firmware?
Of course the phone supports VoLTE and WiFi-Calling, so I'm not sure why at least the latter won't work (or at least have a toggle). If you google 'how to enable WiFi calling', most people tell you to set (or re-set) your E911 address because it's a necessary feature of WiFi calling. Ive done this on the T-Mobile website AND with a support rep on the phone, but still no toggle to enable.
I haven't found anything about this outside of XDA so perhaps it's time to submit a ticket directly to Oppo.
Edit: could anyone from the EU/UK chime in on whether they have the toggle options for VoLTE/WiFi-calling? I think we need to identify whether the problem is based on region/carrier rather than the phone.
Pulled from a recent T-Mobile forum post about the same issue (but on multiple different phones):
"In order to enable WiFi calling from an unlocked phone, there appear to be several components which all need to align perfectly. The the phone must have the physical capability, obviously a WiFi antenna. It also seems to rely on VoLTE provisioned and WiFi calling provisioned abilities.
The former carrier must have unlocked the device and its IMEI for use on another carrier.
The current carrier must have enabled WiFi calling, and also configured an E911 address.
"Exactly! The firmware in the Sprint S8 is not compatible with T-Mobile’s WiFi Calling implementation. XDA might offer some work around through flashing or root, but through normal methods, WiFi Calling on such an old device that actually has carrier specific firmware isn’t going to work with a different carrier for those feature implementations. "
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Edit: could anyone from the EU/UK chime in on whether they have the toggle options for VoLTE/WiFi-calling? I think we need to identify whether the problem is based on region/carrier rather than the phone.
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Vodafone Germany: Custom Firmware with VF branding, but no SIM- or Netlock
VoLTE has no toggle but is activated by default, VoWiFi has a toggle and works.

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