Hey MIUI'ers......
Today, I think I have no words to express the biggest...... What do u call it as......Hmm.... FAILURE OF XIAOMI I guess... Ok, let's go a year or a two back. The time when they launched the great budget camera smartphone- Redmi S2/Y2. This phone overall is a great phone with all the decent entry level specs. From the hardware side, I have no complaints at all. Overall everything was great. BUT, coming to the software, well, that's where the problem began to matter! They provided a 32bit ROM on a 64bit processor! I mean, like for real? Why? What was the matter? Ok, there was a lot of conflict for that issue. Then, it silenced a bit cause we used thought it'll be solved by an OTA update. But guess what? No! Xiaomi claims that their 'users' will lose their valuable data while shifting from a 32bit ROM to 64bit! So, they claimed they won't release the update for 64bit ROM. Well, y'all want our reply for that? Let the data go! We want that 64bit ROM, no matter what! Well ok, even after that, the company promised that they will definitely provide up-to-date software updates, at any cost no matter what! The Android Pie update and the MIUI 11 as well. They promised us users that they will release it before Q1 of the year 2019. We waited for that update eagerly. We were so eager for that update. It was suspended for 1 week. Ok, we'll wait for another. Even the second week. Ok, we'll wait for that next. Even the next, it was suspended. Ok, waiting for the next. And still this continued on and now, Q1 is over and Q2 has begun. And now, Xiaomi claims that they will release it in Q2! And we're like, "WHAT! IS THIS EVEN HAPPENING??? WHAT IS THEIR PROBLEM?" We S2/Y2 users have suffered a lot already. We don't have developers working on our phone at all. We just got few developers and we're grateful for them. All of us. But what did you do huh? Didn't provide a 64bit ROM, didn't release the kernel sources properly (most of it is broken) and now, didn't provide up-to-date software updates. You all appointed Beta Testers for this phone right? What happened to them? One leaked the ROM. How are you sure that the others won't? I BET YOU GUYS! ALMOST QUARTER PERCENT OF YOUR REDMI S2 BETA TESTERS DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TAKE LOGS FROM THEIR PHONE! You appointed them just because they were always active on MI FORUM. And for no other reason. Look at the person's abilities and experience. Don't just look how much time they're online on
"Your Forum."
Judge us by our skills and experience.
And about the 64bit ROM, we don't care about our data. Provide us the ROM.
And about the Android Pie update, please do accept the fact that,
"YOU FAILED". The whole Redmi S2 Beta Team failed! You couldn't keep up to your word.
So...... Yeah, we still hope a little from you that you will release the Pie update soon!
To Moderators: This may seem a little bit rude, but please, once, just for once stand in our position and think about this and please do not delete this
thread! Kindly understand us users!
Even you guys would've done the same if you owned this device.
Also please do check out the thread in Mi Forum.
Thank you
This is it!
You said what all of us wanted to say.
All of us don't understand what is the problem with S2/Y2 'cause is a really amazing phone, but that haven't an support.
It's so hard develop a 64-bit rom for a phone that have Snapdragon 625?
It's look like a negligency of Xiaomi...
It's an so singular phone, why it haven't attention?
RayZion said:
Hey MIUI'ers......
To Moderators: This may seem a little bit rude, but please, once, just for once stand in our position and think about this and please do not delete this thread! Kindly understand us users!
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RayZion said:
Today, I think I have no words to express the biggest...... What do u call it as......Hmm.... FAILURE OF XIAOMI I guess... Ok, let's go a year or a two back. The time when they launched the great budget camera smartphone- Redmi S2/Y2. This phone overall is a great phone with all the decent entry level specs. From the hardware side, I have no complaints at all. Overall everything was great. BUT, coming to the software, well, that's where the problem began to matter! They provided a 32bit ROM on a 64bit processor! I mean, like for real? Why? What was the matter? Ok, there was a lot of conflict for that issue. Then, it silenced a bit cause we used thought it'll be solved by an OTA update. But guess what? No! Xiaomi claims that their 'users' will lose their valuable data while shifting from a 32bit ROM to 64bit! So, they claimed they won't release the update for 64bit ROM. Well, y'all want our reply for that? Let the data go! We want that 64bit ROM, no matter what! Well ok, even after that, the company promised that they will definitely provide up-to-date software updates, at any cost no matter what! The Android Pie update and the MIUI 11 as well. They promised us users that they will release it before Q1 of the year 2019. We waited for that update eagerly. We were so eager for that update. It was suspended for 1 week. Ok, we'll wait for another. Even the second week. Ok, we'll wait for that next. Even the next, it was suspended. Ok, waiting for the next. And still this continued on and now, Q1 is over and Q2 has begun. And now, Xiaomi claims that they will release it in Q2! And we're like, "WHAT! IS THIS EVEN HAPPENING??? WHAT IS THEIR PROBLEM?" We S2/Y2 users have suffered a lot already. We don't have developers working on our phone at all. We just got few developers and we're grateful for them. All of us. But what did you do huh? Didn't provide a 64bit ROM, didn't release the kernel sources properly (most of it is broken) and now, didn't provide up-to-date software updates. You all appointed Beta Testers for this phone right? What happened to them? One leaked the ROM. How are you sure that the others won't? I BET YOU GUYS! ALMOST QUARTER PERCENT OF YOUR REDMI S2 BETA TESTERS DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TAKE LOGS FROM THEIR PHONE! You appointed them just because they were always active on MI FORUM. And for no other reason. Look at the person's abilities and experience. Don't just look how much time they're online on
"Your Forum."
Judge us by our skills and experience.
And about the 64bit ROM, we don't care about our data. Provide us the ROM.
And about the Android Pie update, please do accept the fact that,
"YOU FAILED". The whole Redmi S2 Beta Team failed! You couldn't keep up to your word.
So...... Yeah, we still hope a little from you that you will release the Pie update soon!
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First, The development is still going on, just that the internal team is ripped. Second, Xiaomi already provided you the right information of this device. While you were buying why don't you ask them is the device came with arm64-v8a or armeabi-v7a?
I'm tired of seeing people post these kind of things because it doesn't even make sense for me.
Xiaomi didn't claim the device come with arm64-v8a. What Xiaomi claim is the device is arm64-v8a capable (64 bit Snapdragon 625)
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i am taiwaneese and my brother lives in taiwan and works for htc he told me that htc already solved the issue and in march will be releasing and upgraded version of the kaiser that will have the new driver installed
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i am taiwaneese and my brother lives in taiwan and works for htc he told me that htc already solved the issue and in march will be releasing and upgraded version of the kaiser that will have the new driver installed
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So our brand new phones are obsolete already? I'm having issues believing that. Have any proof of this anyways?
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Are they going to give the already Kaiser a free trade in? Or do we have to go out and buy this?
this is bad very bad ,they update the driver nd to bad for the people that aleady purchased the unit!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
another thing your thread states already fixed
not true or else it would be already available as an update and another thing why believe you when your user name is laugh atloud ?????
dont worry. we the cooks will just extract the new drivers and cook them into the roms.
leoiden said:
this is bad very bad ,they update the driver nd to bad for the people that already purchased the unit!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
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Yeah, that sounds pretty wack to me!
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dont worry. we the cooks will just extract the new drivers and cook them into the roms.
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Great point. But it really sucks that we have to wait till March!!! I wish it was by January at max.
But if HTC has solved this problem why would they not release a ROM Upgrade for the current TyTn II users. ROM's with bug fixes have been fairly common in the past. As I understand the driver issue is a software issue and not a hardware issue. Experts!! I am correct??
Not to mention the poster has only 4 posts......sounds like a troll to me
Plus i heard the updates will be available throught the new Windows Update feature.
it's amazing !!!
the solution exist but doesn't be share !!!
Why your brother doesn't send the driver to the forum ?
I think this forum have the best programmers to include it in a new rom !!!
and it's worst that htc doesn't publish it !!!!
Happy new year (take that on left hand as a bad joke in regard of this thread, and on right hand for my wishes !)
hm..real...or fake..?
not just that, but assuming qualcomm's current legal and shortage of chips troubles, whats the odds that the new TyTn (as the OP was stating) will be using a qualcomm chip? This seems very unlikely. So really the driver issue HASN'T been fixed, since we can be 99% sure that the new chipsets will not be from qualcomm.
I think we are unnecessarily torturing somebody who wanted to give us some good news. Upgrades of software usually are released to fix multiple small problems all in one, not piecemeal. If the brother of laughoutloud were to release the code, he could lose his job as well! Let's wait and hold for some good things to come in 08, if everything gets released right away, then what is there for our phones to look forward to?
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear... the proof is in the pudding. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, keep the pressure on.
this guy is full of Sh!t
the only way to know if it is or not a fake is if he posts the driver on the forum and we test it.. but for now.. for mi is a fake..
even if it was real, they cant just go behind the company's back and post up the driver before it's schedule release date. serious fines and penalties.
You guys dont need to believe him, dont need to call him a fake or call him names. just wait and see, nothing can be done about it anyways. if it doesnt release in march than okay call him a fake. until then, shouldnt speculate.
If he is a fake, he probably enjoying himself right now watchin everyone get so worked up over it. If he is real, well he probably just got a big bad impression about the members of XDA forums.
or maybe if the guy will talk to us a little more and not leave us hanging. or let us contact his brother via email or something as proof?
Reading that Google is working on 7.1.2 I'm wondering if it will be also for Shamu. What's your prognosis?
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/01/get-sneak-peek-at-android-nougat-712.html
Only way to get 7.1.2 will be via custom ROMS, funny enough they are still updating that rubbish Nexus Player, which is the same age as the N6 and 9.
I'm sure they will release a 7.1.2 for N6 to officially fix the speakerphone bug
It will come when the final is released.
Actually...
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/3...7-1-2-update-will-still-see-security-patches/
Actually, nobody needs anymore fix this and break that from #Google. I would wait for PN or whatever rom here in XDA.
When logging in to their beta portal my Nexus 6 is no longer enrolled for Beta so it's looking a tad bleak.
I do hope we get an official fix for the speakerphone bug one way or another though.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...d-nexus-9-no-7-1-2-updates-seemingly-planned/
i Believe in lineageos only , they still support nexus 4 with 7.1.1 so dont worry our n6 will be supported by them
I'm so depressed by this news that I decided not to wait for Google to fix the speakerphone problem and installed Yoinx's fix (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70663169&postcount=81 - thanks, @Oxicottin). I'm astonished that Google would leave the N6 in a broken state, but maybe that's just life...
So going forward I'll be relying on our excellent developers, and I too am looking at LineageOS as well as Pure, Nitrogen, etc.
I want to tread carefully here, because I mean no disrespect to anyone, but my only concern is the number of comments I've seen about Cyanogenmod and its bugs (I have not tried it on my N6, so I have no personal knowledge). Given that LineageOS is the descendant of CM, is that concern valid?
And perhaps this is a good place to ask for feedback on which ROM is best-placed for my purpose and for anyone else interested in long-term maintenance of their device? I don't need bells and whistles, just a ROM where every standard function works.
I know from my long reading experience in XDA that the temptation will be to say "Try them all and see", but it makes more sense to me to ask for opinions from people who have already done that - given that I'm not looking for the all-singing all-dancing perfect ROM, just stable functionality.
dahawthorne said:
I'm so depressed by this news that I decided not to wait for Google to fix the speakerphone problem and installed Yoinx's fix (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70663169&postcount=81 - thanks, @Oxicottin). I'm astonished that Google would leave the N6 in a broken state, but maybe that's just life...
So going forward I'll be relying on our excellent developers, and I too am looking at LineageOS as well as Pure, Nitrogen, etc.
I want to tread carefully here, because I mean no disrespect to anyone, but my only concern is the number of comments I've seen about Cyanogenmod and its bugs (I have not tried it on my N6, so I have no personal knowledge). Given that LineageOS is the descendant of CM, is that concern valid?
And perhaps this is a good place to ask for feedback on which ROM is best-placed for my purpose and for anyone else interested in long-term maintenance of their device? I don't need bells and whistles, just a ROM where every standard function works.
I know from my long reading experience in XDA that the temptation will be to say "Try them all and see", but it makes more sense to me to ask for opinions from people who have already done that - given that I'm not looking for the all-singing all-dancing perfect ROM, just stable functionality.
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I haven't tried LineageOS yet, but Cyanogenmod has always been rock solid for me.
For what you're asking "every standard function works", all of the Custom ROMs you quoted will work.
I used Pure Nexus for quite a while and I loved it! It's based on the latest branch from Google (r13), and have lots of tweaks to look like a Pixel. You should try it
@dahawthorne: The speakerphone fix will be in the security updates. That said, we all will need to rely on custom ROMs from this point on if we want new features.
I've used Pure Nexus from day 1 with few complaints.
Sigh this world is filled with idiots...
The beta versions are only available for the latest devices, guess what? Nexus 6 is not something you can call latest. Afterwards it will be released to all devices.
Same has happened with the 7.1 beta.
It annoys me to read apocalypse stories everytime this happens and nobody is sane enough to logically think back to the last time this happened.
@seahorsepip
I don't get your point. Am I the idiot, or is this disrespectful comment intended to insult everyone?
Where exactly do you source the comment "Afterwards it will be released to all devices" given that there are at least two posted references in this thread stating the opposite?
And your tolerance level seems to be very low. Perhaps you should try yoga?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@dahawthorne: The speakerphone fix will be in the security updates. That said, we all will need to rely on custom ROMs from this point on if we want new features.
I've used Pure Nexus from day 1 with few complaints.
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I have a good feeling for that too, I would say (based on anything) that the speakerphone issue will be addressed in the 7.1.1 February security patch.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Guess it's time to switch from PureNexus to something else.
People shouldnt be surprised. We all knew this was gonna happen years ago when we bought the device. But to be honest, this is XDA. Who cares about official.
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I don't get your point. Am I the idiot, or is this disrespectful comment intended to insult everyone?
Where exactly do you source the comment "Afterwards it will be released to all devices" given that there are at least two posted references in this thread stating the opposite?
And your tolerance level seems to be very low. Perhaps you should try yoga?
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I think it was directed at everyone, and its genesis is a reading comprehension failure on @seahorsepip's part.
I'm sure he'll have a stinging rebuke at the ready, but no amount of insults will change the facts here. This device is not getting Android 7.1.2 from Google. Custom ROMs will be the only way to upgrade from this point on.
I'm prepared for the future. Is anyone else?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I think it was directed at everyone, and its genesis is a reading comprehension failure on @seahorsepip's part.
I'm sure he'll have a stinging rebuke at the ready, but no amount of insults will change the facts here. This device is not getting Android 7.1.2 from Google. Custom ROMs will be the only way to upgrade from this point on.
I'm prepared for the future. Is anyone else?
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Willing to bet we get 7.1.2 when it's out of beta.
This is exactly the same story as with 7.1, everyone and every news site was saying it was the n6 EOL just because it wasn't part of the beta, while the beta clearly states "latest devices only".
Reading comprehension failure, seriously? Besides the absurd choice and combination of words in that sentence it's not a matter of reading, it's a matter of sources. Currently not a single article has a definitive source that states it's the nexus 6 EOL. All articles just assume its the nexus 6 EOL because it's a nice clickbait article just like it was back with the previous betas.
@seahorsepip: Droid Life confirmed it with Google in a follow-up to the initial announcement on their site. Now, if that isn't satisfactory, and given how hostile your first post on this thread is it probably won't be, send a message to Google and ask them yourself. In the meantime, I'll be doing something more meaningful than having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Hi Guys,
I created a petition to ask Oneplus support Project Treble.
It would be great for the community.
So please sign it and let's see if Oneplus will bring it to us.
http://chn.ge/2iNavqC
They don't want to support it, this means they can sell the oneplus 6 with the latest software
Pro4TLZZ said:
They don't want to support it, this means they can sell the oneplus 6 with the latest software
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Never give up the hope.
tibcsi0407 said:
Never give up the hope.
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They did this for the 3t. They shipped the 5t with nougat so they can add Oreo and pretend Oreo released after the 5t shipped. This means you only actually get one software update since they skipped one out
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They did this for the 3t. They shipped the 5t with nougat so they can add Oreo and pretend Oreo released after the 5t shipped. This means you only actually get one software update since they skipped one out
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Or they can maintain the two device parallel.
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Or they can maintain the two device parallel.
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Read the post you replied to .he means the 3t they did the same thing as for the 5t unifying doesn't make any difference.
I have signed it. I can't afford to see my phone's software outdated.
Let's put some pressure on them by inviting as many people as possible to sign up this petition.
Done. Let's make some pressure
Done. This is great!
I seriously think you should also post this on the OnePlus Forums though, it'll gain more traction that way imo.
I've signed up also. However unlikely it is to happen we should put on pressure. During the OP5T launch they went on about how they listen to their users feedback... Let's see if that's just hollow words...
Is anyone here a closed group beta tester? Maybe able to use that avenue to highlight this is a highly sought after feature???
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
I have sign it. They say the same things with Face Unlock and now in the second Oreo beta leaked it is.
snippem said:
Read the post you replied to .he means the 3t they did the same thing as for the 5t unifying doesn't make any difference.
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I see, but that's why. They need less resources to maintain the two device.
Thanks for this!
Please upvote this reddit post to help the petition gain more traction!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/7fejv0/petition_project_treble_on_the_oneplus_5_5t_sign/
I signed it ^^
I signed it !
Thank you guys! Almost 1800 signs within one day!
Signed it. Not only custom ROM quality would skyrocket, but Oneplus themselves would have easier time updating in the future.
Signed!
This is completely pointless. Project Treble is only for devices launching with Oreo, OnePlus's next phones will launch with Oreo and will be required by Google to support Treble.
See this Android Police article.
Note the word "current".
See this also, it seems Google are assisting some manufacturers to convert current devices to Project Treble. I doubt OnePlus will be among them, more likely Samsung, HTC, etc. If there was a way to convince OnePlus to convert their current devices this would be how to do it.
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This is completely pointless. Project Treble is only for devices launching with Oreo, OnePlus's next phones will launch with Oreo and will be required by Google to support Treble.
See this Android Police article.
Note the word "current".
See this also, it seems Google are assisting some manufacturers to convert current devices to Project Treble. I doubt OnePlus will be among them, more likely Samsung, HTC, etc. If there was a way to convince OnePlus to convert their current devices this would be how to do it.
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Make no mistake that just because they are required to include it doesnt mean they will make use of it. Which most OEMs wont even bother dealing with.
The problem is Google wants one thing and the OEM want something completely different. Google can try to force device updates but in the end nothing will change in the update game because of treble.
Ok now is that enough with my patient with this phone.! On a global rom and it is stil on june patch. For good sake. My friends low budget Samsung is on september patch. This is not ok. Worst phone after my old Xperia performenc.
I wouldn't worry about that at all.
Updates can trash a phone... if the OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
ALWAYS redundantly backup your critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC!!!
My N10+ hasn't been updated in almost 2 years.
The current load is over a year old, still fast and very stable with no issues. Security simply isn't an issue unless you do something stupid.
I'm running on Pie and never was forced to reload because of malware in 2 years... that's how secure an unpatched Android can be.
However even with a fully updated Android... there's no saving dumb bunnies
Why people care so much about that update things?
What we need is a stable phone with everythings work. Not an updated phone but buggy software.
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Why people care so much about that update things?
What we need is a stable phone with everythings work. Not an updated phone but buggy software.
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It's mostly hype. Google trying to scare you into upgrading to boost their market share numbers rather than what's best for you.
I'm sampling Android 10* right now. If it runs better than 9 and I find the work arounds I need, I'll upgrade the other Note to 10 as well.
I'd like identical twins
No way they'll be updated to 11 though... it's a dog.
* How well it works also has a lot to do with how well Samsung wrote the firmware. I noticed at lot of new little apks to get around Android's lame swipe gestures and such. I still have my navigation buttons at the bottom on the new Note.
Oh crap another thread.
Here we go @shadowstep - You should really be active for few months atleast for this phone forum. Please!
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Hello there! I'm Kspiderman (ofc from my username), not brave enough rn to share my real name (maybe in the future I will edit this post and share it). My explorating into android roms and android in general started when I was given my mom's old Samsung A7 2017 phone, which ofc has support only till android 8, and that my dad didn't want to buy a new phone. Came across a youtube video on Samsung one ui 1 android 9 on this phone, didn't understand at first, but then after coming here, I understood how to install TWRP, install custom rom, and finally successful. Ofc I craved for more android versions lol, so kept on trying new roms daily, tho it was my daily driver lmao. And then learning how to root, rooted applicated, modding and theming, I grew closer to this community and a sudden desire of mine wanted to help you all how much ever I can and become more close! I also plan to create a custom rom or support a device once I get into college, maybe use my daily driver, or buy two phones, or try to update Samsung A7 itself but looks like it's support is coming to an end soon (well not that soon, but yeah), but I shall do my all to contribute to each and everything I can here and become a member of the XDA family!
PS:- I don't understand how the hierarchy here is assigned since I've become a senior membor now and idk when that even happened or didn't notice until today lmao. So pls explain that too me too, thank you!
Well looks like the didn't apply on the heading
Edit:- Nvm fixed that lmao