Can anyone infer an answer based on previous Sony phones? I never owned one. It seems the only flaw this has is the refresh rate and lack of IR blaster, which I can stand
It shouldn't be possible, since the gpu of the snapdragon is too slow to handle more than 60hz at 4K
I see that some previous sony can do 120hz at 1080p. Can we expect the same here?
I have read a Japanese review that the screen works at 90hz and that it shows compared to the Xperia 1
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You can get 90hz on your Xperia 1 if you search and write a bit of code, at 4k.
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You can get 90hz on your Xperia 1 if you search and write a bit of code, at 4k.
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Does this require root? I would guess so right?
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The reviews so far don't agree it's like 90hz and they couldn't tell the difference when toggled off and on so sounds like a gimmick.
Maybe it'll improve when final release software is released but I doubt it.
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The reviews so far don't agree it's like 90hz and they couldn't tell the difference when toggled off and on so sounds like a gimmick.
Maybe it'll improve when final release software is released but I doubt it.
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I mean if it's not 90hz it is just not.
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Can anyone infer an answer based on previous Sony phones? I never owned one. It seems the only flaw this has is the refresh rate and lack of IR blaster, which I can stand
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I really wish it had the IR blaster too, so much fun turning off TVs on terrasses during the world cup in summer
Any update on this?
cob92 said:
It shouldn't be possible, since the gpu of the snapdragon is too slow to handle more than 60hz at 4K
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Any update on this?
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If the chipset can't support it, it's a dead end.
A while back someone was claiming to have overclocked the Note 10+ to 90hz. It was hogwash because the chipset hardware not the just the firmware doesn't support it.
The answer is in the chipset white papers and even if it does support it, the circuit design may not.
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Was testing Asphalt 8 today, and noticed that gameplay was more or less the same as it was in the Note 2. Seems like we're reaching a plateau in the world of mobile technology.
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Was testing Asphalt 8 today, and noticed that gameplay was more or less the same as it was in the Note 2. Seems like we're reaching plateau in what can be done in mobile technology.
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Isn't Asphalt 8 locked at 30fps?
Anyway,youve got all those extra pixels to render with the Note 4,it will stress the CPU/GPU more. I believe Annandtechs tests showed that running the S805 with a 2k screen gave similar performance to running the S800 with a 1080screen.
I forgot to think from that perspective. Seems like the game is locked at 30fps. I really see no use of those extra pixels and thus unnecessary battery drain though I've achieved over 3 days with the standard battery.
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Isn't Asphalt 8 locked at 30fps?
Anyway,youve got all those extra pixels to render with the Note 4,it will stress the CPU/GPU more. I believe Annandtechs tests showed that running the S805 with a 2k screen gave similar performance to running the S800 with a 1080screen.
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I forgot to think from that perspective. Seems like the game is locked at 30fps. I really see no use of those extra pixels and thus unnecessary battery drain though I've achieved over 3 days with the standard battery.
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There's only going to be more pixels, wait for 4k phones at the end of this year!
4K on a small screen is crippling when think in terms of battery drain. Wonder what the future of battery technology will bring to the table.
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There's only going to be more pixels, wait for 4k phones at the end of this year!
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I feel you. I've also upgraded from note 2 (which is now with my wife). Really, other than a better scree/ pixel density, I don't see much in the Note 4. May thinner profile/ better build quality. I still feel that the camera is downgraded (except for the fact that the note 4 has better control over spherical aberration). I really miss the macro mode in the note 4. Gaming, as you already mentioned, isn't any different.
I see the camera at fault as well. Not defective, but in low-light, tends to get grainy without the flash. Perhaps I haven't taken enough low-light pictures w/o flash with my Note 2 to notice this. For outdoors, the HDR modes works great with the Note 4; I do like the ability to enhance the photo, edit, and get creative. Software, there are some things I miss, especially Quick Glance, and features in the Galaxy S4, which I never got to experience, not that those software features are gimmicky.
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I feel you. I've also upgraded from note 2 (which is now with my wife). Really, other than a better scree/ pixel density, I don't see much in the Note 4. May thinner profile/ better build quality. I still feel that the camera is downgraded (except for the fact that the note 4 has better control over spherical aberration). I really miss the macro mode in the note 4. Gaming, as you already mentioned, isn't any different.
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You may need to get your eyes checked lol massive difference
Asphalt 8 is not locked at 30fps, the note 4 Exynos during game gives around 60fps while Snapdragon 45fps.
The Note 3 Snapdragon is around 30fps.
You can test the FPS whit the app "Gamebench". It needs root.
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Asphalt 8 is not locked at 30fps, the note 4 Exynos during game gives around 60fps while Snapdragon 45fps.
The Note 3 Snapdragon is around 30fps.
You can test the FPS whit the app "Gamebench". It needs root.
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Thanks for the plug mate Just a note - GameBench doesn't require root - you can launch it using our desktop launcher just fine If you have root we can launch it for you.
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Confirmed 60fps. The massive difference is only on the display quality, not the game play; subtle differences only.
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You may need to get your eyes checked lol massive difference
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Confirmed 60fps. The massive difference is only on the display quality, not the game play; subtle differences only.
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Seems like OP is on cloud 9.
LOL. :silly: I was just basing this on various articles I came across on Google, can't confirm real world value, unless I perform the diagnostics. Though Antutu does mention my overall score to be 49,888. My Note 2 only reached 18,000. Seems odd that the real world performance difference is subtle. Forget gaming, my Note 4 does feel a lot smoother and I can keep more apps running in the background compared to the Note 2.
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dude Note 2 with mali 400 can play almost every game around 30fps @720p but Note driving x4 the amount of pixels which needs a lot of power + adreno drivers sucks and games always run better on non adreno GPUs like mali , Powervr
anyway i don't think any android game support 1440p or even 1080p natively they are just get up scaled i think which is just wasting of gpu/cpu power if android allows user to change the res of the game like windows that would be great
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That's why I miss the Mali / Exynos combination. Hopefully, my next Galaxy device will feature this.
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dude Note 2 with mali 400 can play almost every game around 30fps @720p but Note driving x4 the amount of pixels which needs a lot of power + adreno drivers sucks and games always run better on non adreno GPUs like mali , Powervr
anyway i don't think any android game support 1440p or even 1080p natively they are just get up scaled i think which is just wasting of gpu/cpu power if android allows user to change the res of the game like windows that would be great
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Confirmed 60fps. The massive difference is only on the display quality, not the game play; subtle differences only.
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Can you share a screenshot ??
Now that the 6p and 5x has high frame rate recording, will this be possible to be ported to the Nexus 6? The hardware should be up for it, shouldn't it?
No, the new Nexus phones have different CPUs and image sensors to be capable of the higher frame rate recording.
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Now that the 6p and 5x has high frame rate recording, will this be possible to be ported to the Nexus 6? The hardware should be up for it, shouldn't it?
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you do realize that it all depends on the hardware of the device, dont you? if it was possible on the n6, id assume that we would be having it already..
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you do realize that it all depends on the hardware of the device, dont you? if it was possible on the n6, id assume that we would be having it already..
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Well, see the sensor should be able to record 1080/60p according to Sony, can't link because of few posts. But it's on the website for imx214.
And the cpu should have no problem either, so I don't see why it isn't possible hardware-wise.
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Well, see the sensor should be able to record 1080/60p according to Sony, can't link because of few posts. But it's on the website for imx214.
And the cpu should have no problem either, so I don't see why it isn't possible hardware-wise.
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sensor should, and our cpu can handle it(recording slow-mo too). but our device isnt made to handle it for some reason.
Likely due to the memory and other hardware being unable to support it. The bandwidth requirements for it are likely huge, so you need everything working together, and if guess one item isn't capable of handling the throughput properly.
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Both cpu and camera supports it(check oneplusone or nexus 5 with l camera), but thanks to Google marketing they would not bring this new features to nexus 6, unlikely but possible.
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Both cpu and camera supports it(check oneplusone or nexus 5 with l camera), but thanks to Google marketing they would not bring this new features to nexus 6, unlikely but possible.
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Is the memory fast enough to support it? What about the emmc flash chip? There is more to capturing high-frame rate video than having a capable image sensor and CPU. Yes, they're big parts of it, but not everything.
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Is the memory fast enough to support it? What about the emmc flash chip? There is more to capturing high-frame rate video than having a capable image sensor and CPU. Yes, they're big parts of it, but not everything.
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I'm not going to start a discussion about hardware limitations or how important memory speed etc, the thing is; do nexus 5 has advantages over nexus 6? do one plus one has very high differences than nexus 6? No, this cpu can support 55 Mp camera and better than opo plus, gpu is better, memory same, ois and other stuff and do you really believe that we dont have this because hardware limitations? Google always does this and will continue doing this. After enough some time (6P and 5X get boring) they will give us camera v3, until then we had to dig 4K crap.
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I'm not going to start a discussion about hardware limitations or how important memory speed etc, the thing is; do nexus 5 has advantages over nexus 6? do one plus one has very high differences than nexus 6? No, this cpu can support 55 Mp camera and better than opo plus, gpu is better, memory same, ois and other stuff and do you really believe that we dont have this because hardware limitations? Google always does this and will continue doing this. After enough some time (6P and 5X get boring) they will give us camera v3, until then we had to dig 4K crap.
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Go get a slow memory card, put it in a DSLR camera, and see if you can take pictures as far as the image sensor is capable of. Maybe you don't think it matters, but it does. My GPU on my computer is capable of 4K resolutions, why won't my monitor display 4K? Again, if one piece of hardware doesn't support taking video or images at a given resolution and frame rate, then it doesn't matter what the rest is capable of.
Then again, I'm sure you have the exact hardware design specs and everything is great and its actually capable of 300 fps at 8K...
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Go get a slow memory card, put it in a DSLR camera, and see if you can take pictures as far as the image sensor is capable of. Maybe you don't think it matters, but it does. My GPU on my computer is capable of 4K resolutions, why won't my monitor display 4K? Again, if one piece of hardware doesn't support taking video or images at a given resolution and frame rate, then it doesn't matter what the rest is capable of.
Then again, I'm sure you have the exact hardware design specs and everything is great and its actually capable of 300 fps at 8K...
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OK it matters of course and let's say we have a slow memory and ram (we can record 4k @30fps though), how come nexus 5 can do it? Btw this feature was around for a time but Google itself did not looked into it, and I'm sure with a little bit hacking they can do it but Google rarely give backward compatibility to their devices except os of course.
Maybe the Nexus 5 has different hardware, just a thought? I mean, it is coming from a different OEM and from a different time period, so that would be the first logical guess. Second guess is that, given encryption is enabled by default and that affects the throughput on R/W actions, that it is preventing us from high FPS recording. I didn't design the phone, so it's all speculative. Unless you know a Google or Motorola engineer, you're likely never going to get the actual answer.
Either way though, bloody annoying.
[email protected] is literally the same bandwidth as [email protected] If the hardware can handle the bandwidth of [email protected], the only limitation left is the speed of the sensor. If Sony's sensor can handle the speed required for 60-120fps, then the only limitation left is arbitrary software. Is there a setting in android to make that available, or is it a closed source driver limitation?
Anyone give it a go yet?
What do you think? Better yet, has anyone directly compared 60fps on Note vs the XS Max?
Looks like its only available for the US variant. Probably only Snapdragon. Tried it no 60fps on exynos.
Kind of expected. Uninstalled...
Since the XS Max got a 120Hz screen I wonder if it can actually got beyond 60Hz.
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Looks like its only available for the US variant. Probably only Snapdragon. Tried it no 60fps on exynos.
Kind of expected. Uninstalled...
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The snapdragon 945 GPU is around 35% faster in fortnite (and most GPU tasks), so no surprise here. Comparing to the iphone xs is pointless tho as the GPU in the A12 is faster sustained vs the benchmark PEAK performance in sd855 (yep, not a type - sd855, so you can guess where this puts the sd845, especially sustained).
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Since the XS Max got a 120Hz screen I wonder if it can actually got beyond 60Hz.
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No iPhone have 120hz refresh rate, only their iPads. If you want that Razer 2 offers that.
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No iPhone have 120hz refresh rate, only their iPads. If you want that Razer 2 offers that.
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However that is what it's written on the GSM arena page about its specs.
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However that is what it's written on the GSM arena page about its specs.
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So it's a faux 120hz refresh the display itself is still 60hz unlike the iPad Pros. https://beebom.com/iphone-xs-xs-max-xr-120hz-touch-sensing/ From this article, it looks like it only increases touch response.
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So it's a faux 120hz refresh the display itself is still 60hz unlike the iPad Pros. https://beebom.com/iphone-xs-xs-max-xr-120hz-touch-sensing/ From this article, it looks like it only increases touch response.
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Oh I understand now. Thanks.
Sorry for the confusion.
Well it plays pretty amazing! Some stutter at high graphics setting so had to turn down to low graphics and keep the 60fps.
Quite incredible actually! Huge advantage against 30fps players. Got 14 eliminations easily in team rumble.
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Well it plays pretty amazing! Some stutter at high graphics setting so had to turn down to low graphics and keep the 60fps.
Quite incredible actually! Huge advantage against 30fps players. Got 14 eliminations easily in team rumble.
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Yeah, the difference between 30 and 60fps for a first person shooter is quite big. Sadly not only the exynos note 9 doesn't support 60fps, but it also on the last versions is locked to maximum high GFX (EPIC is grayed out). So samsung thinks it's fair to sell you for more money a phone that has the same name, but can go maximum to high 30fps (it's also not smooth on that settings) while the other one go epic 60fps? Ok
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Oh I understand now. Thanks.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Yep, on the iphones it's just the digitizer that goes to 120Hz vs the regular 60Hz touch reading. This actually is awesome and really great in both UI and gaming, the touch latency is quite a lot lower + it tracks you better/faster/accurate.
Hi Guys,
As some of you know, There is currenty a mod for the Xiamoi Mi 9 which allows you to overclock the display's refreshrate to 84 Hz. Since the Mi 9 uses Samsng OLED panels, I'm wondering if any developers could possibly look into developing a similar mod for the Galaxy S10.
Here is is the Xiamoi Mi 9 thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/themes/mod-overclock-screen-to-84hz-t3942063
Would love to have this, hopefully us snapdragon can be rooted
That would be nice!
There was a rom in the dev section (not sure if it's still there) where the developer was saying that 90hz overclock is being tested. So it definitely can be done but not sure if it's still being worked on. Would love it though.
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There was a rom in the dev section (not sure if it's still there) where the developer was saying that 90hz overclock is being tested. So it definitely can be done but not sure if it's still being worked on. Would love it though.
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The only thing I'm missing in . My S10+ is 90hz refresh rate !!! ....
oh damn the hype is real
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Hi Guys,
As some of you know, There is currenty a mod for the Xiamoi Mi 9 which allows you to overclock the display's refreshrate to 84 Hz. Since the Mi 9 uses Samsng OLED panels, I'm wondering if any developers could possibly look into developing a similar mod for the Galaxy S10.
Here is is the Xiamoi Mi 9 thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/themes/mod-overclock-screen-to-84hz-t3942063
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Find a developer who is capable of making a kernal with 90hz !!! I know this sounds so crazy ....
dumb question but what for?
It's a mobile, not a gaming monitor...
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dumb question but what for?
It's a mobile, not a gaming monitor...
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The user interface becomes much smoother and scrolling has a huge difference. Ask anyone with a OnePlus 7 Pro and they will tell you the same thing.
Any news ?
Any news?
If Xaomi can have 85hz refresh rate overclock on a super amoled screen then we should be able to get mod working on the S10, right? Since the S20 is coming soon with a rumored 120hz. Makes me want a higher refresh on my 10 even more.
Guys forget it... the S10 community isn't as good as it was years before. Most dev's don't care about the S10's.
Really wish this became true
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dumb question but what for?
It's a mobile, not a gaming monitor...
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For best VR experience. Display resolution is amazing, sensors are amazing, just the refresh rate is missing
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Guys forget it... the S10 community isn't as good as it was years before. Most dev's don't care about the S10's.
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Assuming that's true, I'm guessing it might be because the US market version of the S10 is so locked down.
Hi,
Loving the device so far, Very slick and the build quality is awesome, Camera is excellent! Better than I imagined for a Chinese phone, It feels almost like the perfect smartphone, I'm glad I chose this now and not the OP 10 Pro.
1 annoying issue I have though is scrolling refresh rate in Google photos and the menu scrolling in Google maps is jittery.
This is not present on my 8 Pro and I have no idea why, It makes using Google photos quite a horrible experience to be honest, I can't find a way to force higher refresh rate for specific apps alao, Doesn't look like it's possible.
Does anyone know how to report bugs to Oppo?
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Weird lol just gone back into photos and now it's smooth I have no idea why, What it is still doing though is mis touches with the screen and scrolling, It's nowhere near as fast as my OP 8 Pro and does not seem to be as responsive either in the sense that trying to scroll fast with your finger results in mis touches of the screen not picking your finger up, I hope they are aware of this and it gets fixed soon.
Update again lol, Scrub that it's not smooth in Google photos at all I posted this from my 8 Pro not even realising lol.
I have none of those issues on mine, have refresh on auto.
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I have none of those issues on mine, have refresh on auto.
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Auto refresh? There is no Auto refresh it's either standard or high? So the YouTube app is running at 120hz on yours is it?
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Auto refresh? There is no Auto refresh it's either standard or high? So the YouTube app is running at 120hz on yours is it?
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Sorry I meant high, no I'd say it was definitely 60 when you scroll, but as YouTube has no 120hz content it's understandable.
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Sorry I meant high, no I'd say it was definitely 60 when you scroll, but as YouTube has no 120hz content it's understandable.
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Yeah it's definitely not smooth in YouTube for some reason.
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Try this. Worked for me.
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Try this. Worked for me.
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Thanks mate I'll give that a go sounds promising for now, I can't understand what is so difficult for the the software devs of these modern flagships to have YouTube and Google apps running at 120hz, After all it's what we paid for with these high end displays, Thanks again.
I know. It's a pain. My previous device was an s21 ultra and had no issues with 120hz. I guess oppo do it for power saving maybe. I'm pretty sure one plus do something similar. Try the app worked for me. You'll have to go in to the app every time you restart the device. So it's not a permanent fix but gets the job done.
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I know. It's a pain. My previous device was an s21 ultra and had no issues with 120hz. I guess oppo do it for power saving maybe. I'm pretty sure one plus do something similar. Try the app worked for me. You'll have to go in to the app every time you restart the device. So it's not a permanent fix but gets the job done.
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That works thanks mate appreciate it, Butter smooth now, If enough people complained about the refresh rate in YouTube and single speaker audio in games they may do something about it but as it stands not doesn't seem many people bare too bothered which I find rather bizarre.
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That works thanks mate appreciate it, Butter smooth now, If enough people complained about the refresh rate in YouTube and single speaker audio in games they may do something about it but as it stands not doesn't seem many people bare too bothered which I find rather bizarre.
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Tbh I just don't think many people buy oppo smartphones. I've looked on Reddit and can not see anything about only 1 speaker working in games. I'll defo report the issue.
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Tbh I just don't think many people buy oppo smartphones. I've looked on Reddit and can not see anything about only 1 speaker working in games. I'll defo report the issue.
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Tbh I just don't think many people buy oppo smartphones. I've looked on Reddit and can not see anything about only 1 speaker working in games. I'll defo report the issue.
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Yeah they must not do because surely people can't be happy with 1 speaker audio and low refresh in major apps, Doesn't make sense, It completely ruins the immersive experience in COD mobile can't hear footsteps or where people bare coming from.
Hi mate just to let you. New update fixes the audio issues. Set VPN to France and download the latest version.
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Hi mate just to let you. New update fixes the audio issues. Set VPN to France and download the latest version.
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Thanks mate yeah I just saw that in another post just updating now...
Did you get your pre order pack mate also?
I haven't heard anything and claimed the same day I got the phone on release day?
At least they were true to their word that this update would fix stereo audio in gaming