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Sorry if this is the wrong place but i wasn't quite sure where it fits in if its as its not specifically directed towards the nexus one.
I've got my nexus one and i've had it since feb, enjoying the phone quite a lot at the moment. i'm in the UK and my contract will be up for renewal come December (I can upgrade in November though).
What i'm wondering is what Android phone's & tablets will be available around that time. I'm not quite sure where to start looking.
I'm quite interested in getting a tablet e.g. something like the Dell Looking Glass which i think will be out in November from the leaks i've seen!
A friend of mine has the Dell Streak which seems ok although i'm not convinced on the size for a phone.
I'd quite like to have an Evo 4G but that would be pointless in this country
Why not stick with the NexusOne?
Or maybe wait until November when we actually know what will be available in November?
I probably will as a main phone but if I can get a tablet maybe...
yea but i was also wondering if there had been any leaked stuff with what maybe coming out
I dunno its kind of a stupid question
Well, there's a new iPhone coming out.
*giggles*
Hey guys,
I've been looking to buy a Nexus, however Im hesitant because of all the rapid improvements to smart-phones lately. Seems like just yesterday my G1 was the **** because of its 528mhz processor.. But if I were to lay down the $500+ for it, I would hate for the "Nexus 2" to come out a month later.. accompanied by the regret and face palms. Of course, I'm not expecting that specific scenario to unfold, but how long do you think the specs for the N1 will last as a competitive player in the field? And do you think it's safe to say the upcoming android updates we have yet to experience will be compatible with it?
-Thanks for your input!
The Nexus One is a great phone, but as with the G1 ALL technology is eventually replaced, I chose the nexus one becuase its Googles phone, which means if any phone has a chance to still be the beta tester for all android things to come it would be the nexus one. The Evo and Incredible are all basically re-branded Nexus One's, same hardware different software. The nexus one was my first smartphone, actually my first phone ever (my parents hate tech lol) and I've seen people with their iphones and bberries and I pull out my nexus one and KNOW without a shadow of a doubt I have the best phone. If the nexus one looks appealing to you and you are happy with what it can do, I say you wont be dissapointed. But, if you are hesitant and iffy on the purchase, perhaps wait and see whats around Androids corner. I love my nexus one and from what I see from competitive android smartphones and still think mine is the best.
-Cheers with your decision
Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
The rumor/heresay is that the N2 will be out in Nov. Then just repeat the cycle of selling old, use money towards the new one.
Kind of like you're leasing the best phone at the moment
If you say n2 will come and will wait, and when the n2 comes out ou can wait for the n3. you can do two things.
Buy a new phone, and sell it after few months to buy a new one. if you sell it before a newer version comes out you can sell it almost the same price you bought it. put some extre $ and buy a new one. I do this > i had over 30 phones in my life > i'm 22 years now
or what you also can do is skip a generation. so if you buy n1 skip n2 and wait for n3 (for example). so you can use you don't have to switch phones that often.
I bought the N1 as my first smartphone and have been very happy with it. I would say it will last a while since Google demonstrated their new OS (Android 2.2) on it and also previewed the release after that on a N1. That gave me hope to know that it will work with the release of 2.2 and also the release after that. Whether they will continue to release the new OS for it after that is unknown, but there are always custom ROMs that could add functionality.
Go For It
I say buy the N1 if you like it. Yeah, there's no front-facing camera, gyroscope, or whatever else the next line of premium Android phones will all contain. It is still going to receive Google's updates first for at least another year. Also, as with the G1, the dev community is doing excellent work and should have no problem extending it's life even further beyond that. If the G1 is still going almost 2 years and numerous updates later, Nexus owners have nothing to worry about.
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Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
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I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.
Either act today, or wait 6 months. This market moves fast.
seriously this thread has been posted so many times before. just search. the nexus will be the flagship until next january for sure. it still has a long life left, so buy it and enjoy it. nexus two isnt even a rumor yet, and wouldnt be out till next year.
Motorola has a 2ghz phone hitting store before the end of the year, with 1080P vide out.
You're never gonna be "top of the line" for more than 6 months.
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I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.
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I already see it listed at various other places for $650+.
Somehow, I doubt that will come down once buying straight from the "manufacturer" for "cheap" is no longer an option.
I am really close to buying a Nook Color, but with my luck an updated model will be available shortly after. I would be willing to wait a couple of months if a new one was on the horizon.
Then again, I could get one now, then give it to my g/f when a new one comes out.
i doubt it, ive heard nothing about a new model, in fact why would they release a new one? this one does everything they would want the device to do. maybe they would do something about the handful of design flaws.. but it does not appear to have created enough buzz to warrant a redesign. Not to mention the fact that this one is rather new to the market.
I wouldn't expect a nook color 2 for some time, if at all. B&N is hurting pretty bad as a company (read: hemorrhaging money). I know they struck gold Jerry with the original nook (~30% market share for e-readers), but that still doesn't change the fact that B&N can't close stores fast enough.
B&N put out an ultra-fancy e-reader, one that is vastly over-qualified for what they wanted it to do, so there's lots of room for them to grow into as they release updates. As far as we know, the nook color (hardware wise) can handle both Froyo and Gingerbread with ease, and by the looks of it HoneyComb as well. Also, it was about a year inbetween the two nooks being released, so I would count on almost 1.5-2 years before we start hearing rummors.
I say, get one while you have the cash.
Other plans
I'm pretty sure that B&N is going to shift their goals to building out their Development platform before planning new hardware. Besides, they aren't making their margin on these Nooks, but rather setting up a somewhat razor/refill market that will (hopefully) get people into stores and more interested in their eBooks.
They might NOT be on top of the stack right now, but I'd go to B&N before setting foot in a Borders...
cameraz said:
I am really close to buying a Nook Color, but with my luck an updated model will be available shortly after. I would be willing to wait a couple of months if a new one was on the horizon.
Then again, I could get one now, then give it to my g/f when a new one comes out.
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I'm sorry but by this logic... why buy anything tech based? I don't need to think about buying the Iphone 4, I know that 5 will be out soon. Shortly after that 6, so on and so forth.
You need to read less what HACKERS are doing, and more what people SHOULD be doing with a Nookcolor. In the E-Reader market, the nookcolor is the top of the line model. When you look at other E-Readers many people rather have E-Ink (or its at least a common complaint), Currently a real "Nook Color" base doesn't exist. A lot of the features are not fully formed, and completely designed. Many Magazines, do not appear on the market. Even a lot of the actual "E-Reader" aspects are not all there, but lets move past this.
For there to be a "NookColor 2" there needs to be a reason to justify a better version. Unlike Apple B&N cant really afford to do an upgrade like the 3g to 3gs. The screen is very high grade, theres no real lag reading, the E-Reader programs are way better than the default one, backlit, color, etc. The most an upgrade would have would be more a redesign, theres nothing else it needs that it doesn't already have. Things like more memory would fall short, 5 gigs is more than enough for the core function, and buying a memory card is not that much of a hassle.
I agree, no upgrade coming this year. Feel free to buy!
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I wouldn't expect a nook color 2 for some time, if at all. B&N is hurting pretty bad as a company (read: hemorrhaging money). I know they struck gold Jerry with the original nook (~30% market share for e-readers), but that still doesn't change the fact that B&N can't close stores fast enough.
B&N put out an ultra-fancy e-reader, one that is vastly over-qualified for what they wanted it to do, so there's lots of room for them to grow into as they release updates. As far as we know, the nook color (hardware wise) can handle both Froyo and Gingerbread with ease, and by the looks of it HoneyComb as well. Also, it was about a year inbetween the two nooks being released, so I would count on almost 1.5-2 years before we start hearing rummors.
I say, get one while you have the cash.
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Are you sure bn is not doing well and not mixing bn and borders up...i know borders is not doing well
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Are you sure bn is not doing well and not mixing bn and borders up...i know borders is not doing well
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Check out this link, it's a wiki for investers: http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Barnes_&_Noble_(BKS)
Now go down to "business growth."
B&N is, for a lack of a better term, bleeding money at an unsustainable rate.
Hell, they lost over $40 Million in just the last half of 2010. That's more than they made in the entire year of 2010. And on top of that, they earned HALF of what they made in 2009. Their operating margin(% of the difference between cost and retail of products sold that can go towards profit, or return on sales) fell from 2.8% to 1.3%(BTW that's god-awfull)
Even with their sales increasing nearly by double digits quarter after quarter. They make so little(% wise) that the increase of sales is overshadowed by the increase of costs assosiated with selling more of something.
So, pretty much half of the company just breaks even. The other half either losses money, or losses LOTS of money.
Don't be surprised if B&N doesn't survive long enough to honor our 1yr warrenties.
The real question is. Who's going to buy them? And, will the nook product line survive the transfer of ownership?
Edit: added comment about increasing sales.
Admiralvic said:
I'm sorry but by this logic... why buy anything tech based? I don't need to think about buying the Iphone 4, I know that 5 will be out soon. Shortly after that 6, so on and so forth.
... For there to be a "NookColor 2" there needs to be a reason to justify a better version. Unlike Apple B&N cant really afford to do an upgrade like the 3g to 3gs.
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Actually, I am not the type of person to sit back and wait for the latest version to come out, unless it has been some time since the original came out. Also, even if a new version comes out it has to be a big enough change for me to buy it. For instance, I bought the first generation iPod Touch, but didn't spring for the subsequent Gen. 2 or 3 because they were only minor upgrades, in my opinion. But when Gen. 4 came out, I upgraded.
The Nook has been out since last fall, I believe, and I remember reading on some tech site (CNET, maybe?) that this spring a new Nook Color would appear with 3g. I would only get this, however, if the 3g was free like on the Kindle.
In any event, where would you guys be more likely to purchase a Nook Color -- at an online retailer, or go directly to your local B&N store?
Aww that is news is bad for BN...my three stores always have people in them and two of them I always have to wait in line...unless I am there at odd hours
If I can buy locally for almost the same price...I will always buy locally. Now if I could have obtained the nook for $200 online...you bet I would have gone online! I think most "e-reader" people would prefer to go to a physical store than buy online...but look at the success of the Kindle...
Another aspect my stores are pushing are the Nook Color classes or meeting to share tips and tricks and how toos on the NC. While these dont apply to me...I would imagine they would appeal to the mass users of the NC.
or at least HSN Official Web Site:
NOOK Color™ 7" Touchscreen LCD Tablet with Wi-Fi and eBooks
which says:
Coming Soon "Sneak Peek" Updates
HSN will have the "sneak peek" of the new Nook updates, which launches in April
The new updates will be sent out automatically if your device in connected to Wi-Fi
HSN customers will receive the update first
NOOK Apps
Shop the NOOK Store for a wide variety of fun and engaging NOOK Apps
Download all types of apps to get even more out of your device
Some of the exciting new apps include Angry Birds, Lonely Planet Phrasebook and Drawing Pad
Adobe Flash
Expand your web experience by watching videos that use Adobe Flash
Built-in Email
Stay connected via built-in email, just like you do on other tablets and high-end smartphones
No need to go through Internet browser
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Yeah, that about as "official" as the "Chigako Bulls" T-shirt I bought from a street vendor in Beijing.
just as official as an e-reader turned tablet
hoping the update is true
dsf3g said:
Yeah, that about as "official" as the "Chigako Bulls" T-shirt I bought from a street vendor in Beijing.
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OK, this was posted by an "Administrator" (whatever that means) on the Official barnes and Noble Nook Color forums:
"Hi all- If you’d like to get a sneak peek of some of the upcoming NOOK Apps, check out HSN this weekend to see them demonstrated. Then stay tuned! Everyone will receive the update as soon as it is ready this Spring."
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...ok-Color-on-Home-Shopping-Network/td-p/914304
Aside from a stock 2.2, what i really hope for is a new kernel, that Dal and other devs can use to make CM7 and HC (when its out) even better...
Browsing is much faster on 2.2 as well. Good news!
If the B&N Forum administrator can be trusted, I suspect that what we'll see is a web browser running embedded Flash videos and some cook-books with embedded video demonstrations. Wouldn't surprise me to see Angry Birds or some such, also, when they talk about "all the other things the Nook Color can do."
I will say that it kinda rubs me the wrond way to see the Nook Color on HSN. I associate that show with overpriced Packard Bell's (and lets face it: Packard Bell were overpriced at any price) and $15.00, 10 Carat "genuine faux diamons."
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I will say that it kinda rubs me the wrond way to see the Nook Color on HSN. I associate that show with overpriced Packard Bell's (and lets face it: Packard Bell were overpriced at any price) and $15.00, 10 Carat "genuine faux diamons."
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does the fact they are selling the NC for 299 have anything to do with that?
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Sorry, I'm new here, but Home Shopping has the nerve to charge $300, $50 more than every other store, for the Nook Color, and that $50 buys you a lousy 2 GB SD card with a bunch of free Gutenburg Project books??
I mean, I knew they have no shame, but.... WOW.
That might be the most expensive 2 GB SD card EVER.
I wonder if google apps will be available. I'd really have no need for rooting if only the basic applications were available through their market.
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I wonder if google apps will be available. I'd really have no need for rooting if only the basic applications were available through their market.
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Well it says Email App... even iphone has Google apps, despite Jobs' feud with Google, so it seems likely that BN would also have google apps.
BTW, as some have mentioned, HSN will use the "$299" price as a starting point for saying "but only if you call now, you get it for" in order to make their actual price seem more like a deal.
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Well it says Email App... even iphone has Google apps, despite Jobs' feud with Google, so it seems likely that BN would also have google apps.
BTW, as some have mentioned, HSN will use the "$299" price as a starting point for saying "but only if you call now, you get it for" in order to make their actual price seem more like a deal.
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Sadly, that isn't the case. The only devices that are shipping with GApps, are those that have a cellular radio (aka the phones, and some tablets). Non licensed devices (like ours, and others) do not ship with it (though it doesn't stop us from putting them on.
List of the books come with Nook on HSN
http://www.hsn.com/list-of-nook-color-preloaded-books_at-1754_xa.aspx?c=1
Sent from my NookColor
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Sadly, that isn't the case. The only devices that are shipping with GApps, are those that have a cellular radio (aka the phones, and some tablets). Non licensed devices (like ours, and others) do not ship with it (though it doesn't stop us from putting them on.
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That doesn't stop B&N from licensing it for the 2.2 Update.
I'm wondering what it's going to do for those running rooted stock? For once I don't want to be in the first batch to upgrade.
xdabr said:
Sorry, I'm new here, but Home Shopping has the nerve to charge $300, $50 more than every other store, for the Nook Color, and that $50 buys you a lousy 2 GB SD card with a bunch of free Gutenburg Project books??
I mean, I knew they have no shame, but.... WOW.
That might be the most expensive 2 GB SD card EVER.
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No, it's not. Bought a 2GB MicroSD when they first came out, and it ran a cool $180 (plus sales tax!) at the time, as they were exclusive through SanDisk to one cellphone carrier for a good few months (Verizon IIRC). Curse of the early adopter, saw them drop to sub-$100 just half a year later or so.
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No, it's not. Bought a 2GB MicroSD when they first came out, and it ran a cool $180 (plus sales tax!) at the time, as they were exclusive through SanDisk to one cellphone carrier for a good few months (Verizon IIRC). Curse of the early adopter, saw them drop to sub-$100 just half a year later or so.
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I buy my 2gb cards for $5.99 at Micro Center now.
victle said:
List of the books come with Nook on HSN
http://www.hsn.com/list-of-nook-color-preloaded-books_at-1754_xa.aspx?c=1
Sent from my NookColor
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Yes, that's my point! They're a bunch of old classic literature that is <b>all</b> available for free via Project Gutenburg (33,000 titles and counting) and other venues.
If there's a single title there that you'd actually have to pay for, please let me know; I haven't checked all of them.
This is a rip-off. But it's a tangent; the point of the thread was about the B&N update. (See also the recent bad news about Honeycomb being withheld.)
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Aside from a stock 2.2, what i really hope for is a new kernel, that Dal and other devs can use to make CM7 and HC (when its out) even better...
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I'm with you , if this provides a new kernel that can be integrated in CM7 and HC great, otherwise I honestly don't care at all Not hating on anyone on stock, I rocked it for awhile, just saying once I flashed cm7 I didn't look back...and I wouldn't be surprised if that's going to be the road for most nook rooters (not necc. cm7, but also HC, phiremod, etc...)
by stock I mean stock-rooted...I was on stock for about the time it took me to charge the device
Looks like B&N has finally had their own press release for this (and not the Facebook one either)....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/nook-color-getting-flash-and-apps-in-april-update-according-to/
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/business/media/23nook.html
I bought the Nook Color for my wife, she likes to read on it, and I get to tweak it and play with it as a tablet. Lately I used it more than her of course. And she doesn't mind what i do to it as long as she can still read her books.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/business/media/23nook.html
I bought the Nook Color for my wife, she likes to read on it, and I get to tweak it and play with it as a tablet. Lately I used it more than her of course. And she doesn't mind what i do to it as long as she can still read her books.
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Good article. I think we (rooters) are a big part of the success, not just because we buy them but we make the sales numbers look good enough to continue the push. It is also such an elegant looking device that the more people see them, the more they sell. I see a lot of them on the commuter train I take to work every morning. I would say I see more of them than iPad (I still see more original nooks, kindles, and Sony ereaders than anything). iPad sales are boosted by people that buy them because they are cool and want to use them at home. They are really too big and heavy to use comfortably on the train in my opinion and I am a 250 lb guy.
I wasn't aware of the problems Apple is having with magazine publishers. I am not a big magazine reader but I get Men's Health and it looks great on the Nook (both in the app on CM7 and the stock - I dual boot). There is no way that I would buy each edition at $4-$5. $2 a month for a subscription is a much more attractive price for me.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/business/media/23nook.html
I bought the Nook Color for my wife, she likes to read on it, and I get to tweak it and play with it as a tablet. Lately I used it more than her of course. And she doesn't mind what i do to it as long as she can still read her books.
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Very ineteresting. I never realized magazines on the Nook Color were basically just PDF files.
Hopefully, publishers will eventually tweak their magazines so they fit the Nook Color's screen dimensions better "out of the box." I don't mind pinching and Zooming, and it's nice that the magazine is identical to the newstand copy, but it would be cool if the articles fit the screen better from the get-go without the need to pinch and zoom.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/business/media/23nook.html
I bought the Nook Color for my wife, she likes to read on it, and I get to tweak it and play with it as a tablet. Lately I used it more than her of course. And she doesn't mind what i do to it as long as she can still read her books.
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Ewwww I'm playing with a "girls toy" *chucks nook out the window*
JK I just have to put some stickers of hot naked chicks on the back and it will be ok.
I'm probably going to buy a NC soon (first tablet) but reading the NY Times article they say that B&N is expected to debut a new e-reader this week.
Does anyone have any detail about this? maybe they'll drop the price of the current NC ($250), does someone know of a better deal? TIA
LU.
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I'm probably going to buy a NC soon (first tablet) but reading the NY Times article they say that B&N is expected to debut a new e-reader this week.
Does anyone have any detail about this? maybe they'll drop the price of the current NC ($250), does someone know of a better deal? TIA
LU.
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No one knows for sure but speculation is it will be an update or an additional option the the original eInk Nook, not the Color. The Nook Color (NC) was only introduced last November as the NYT article states. With the latest upgrade and addition of apps, many think it is too soon to replace it.
The original Nook is about 1 year old which, in technology these days, means it's old.
Beyond that I haven't paid too much attention to what the actual details of the announcement might be. I'm not interested in another Nook. I'm happy with my NC.