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<rant>HD2 t-mobile brand screen protector.

Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.

i know how you feel! i bought them when i got my hd2 and i got the top two-thirds of the protector on perfect but then the bottom third somehow got dust underneath, it really not that bad when the screen is on but its still annoying. cant wait to get my invisibleshield on it tho!
order this, the maximum protection from zagg....
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

I used invisishield on my ipod. Great stuff, but hard to get on perfect. 3 parts for a curved back and front only covers the LCD part? The front part sounds so unlike them. They normally have it going round buttons and everything.
But it's like putting tint on. You need to have a liquid to make slide just right.

i used invisible shield on my iphone, and it was fully protected. It did add grip to the device which i liked. Anyways, the maximum protection shield covered more than the normal full-body shield. It'll cover not only the LCD screen but all spaces around the hardware buttons and well as the speaker.

starstreak said:
Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
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I also got these same screen protectors and was dissapointed when it did not cover the entire screen.
Trick to putting on screen protectors.
1.) Make sure the screen is completely clean of all smudges etc.
2.) Use a can of air duster to remove any small dust particles that might be stuck on the phone. If you don't have that then just take a piece of tape and remove any dust particles or dirt from the screen. This is the most important part!
3.) Line up the screen protector on the screen where you want to place it.
4.) Peel back the backing of the screen protector as you lay the screen on the device. Start from the top of the device and work your way down. If need be take out a credit card or another hard piece of plastic of some sort to push out any air bubbles that may occur as you lay down the screen protector.'
5.) Enjoy a job well done.

It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?

pa49 said:
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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My TMOUS HDC HD2 is definitely glass.
I didn't bother to use a screen protector (didn't even know there was one supplied)...it isn't necessary on a glass screen.
Its very hard to scratch glass...you would need a very sharp object, made out of a very hard material (harder than glass), applied with a lot of pressure. I've had my iPhone for 3 years, and the glass is flawless on it. The aluminum housing is scratched, dented, and dinged up, and the LCD panel has a little bit of bruising on the top left corner BEHIND the glass...but the glass itself is immaculate.
Apple actually pulled the screen protectors off the shelves from the Apple store because they felt they were unnecessary..and frankly anyone who pays for one on the HD2 or iPhone wasted their money.
You'll actually see more imperfections on the screen by applying a screen protector...they have a tendency to attract dust, bubble up, and flat out get dirty. The only maintenance you need to do on a glass screen is polish out smudges and finger prints.
The biggest peril to glass touch screens is cracks from falls....and if your HD2 suffers a big enough impact, a screen protector or 'invisible shield' won't do squat to keep it from cracking

glass or plastic..either way.. i was soooooooooooo confident i wouldnt scratch mine, until about a minute ago when i was in the process of wiping the glass(plastic) screen before putting on a screen protector, i noticed a little scratch...great. Should've put on a protector sooner...
From now on, I willl be putting on a screen protector unless the screen are made out of crystal sapphire or something..

pa49 said:
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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We actually do not get an included screen protector. Only the black gel case, which imo is quite crappy... loose and flimsy

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6117793#post6117793 Check out oy instillation of the Invisible shield if you are considering buying one. I bought the Maximum Protection and it covers almost everything besides for around the buttons on the bottom, volume rocker, camera, Micro USB/ 3.5 Headphone jack, and the finger nail grove on battery cover. I also would like to note that my TMOUS HD2 did not include any screen protectors in the box.

Sorry imo I have to disagree with you about the included gel being loose mine fits quite snugly and until my zagg comes in I prefer to keep it in the gel...not as slick & keeps the screen(when face down) off the flat surface.

A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!

MAMeingast said:
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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I agree, I used to do this back in the day before Zagg came around. It works great.

I have read with other products people use a drop or water/soap water before applying a screen protector. Has anyone used this method on this device? i am concerned that the water will somehow ruin the device. I know it's only a drop or 2 but wanted to get some feedback first before i tried it.

My review on invsibleSHIELD and zaGGskin

Hey everyone,
I recently purchases a custom zagg skin and the invsibleSHIELD ,
The zaggskin is easy to put on the back of your HD2 , its a little bit smaller, but that makes the process of putting it on easier (It took me like 2 min?),
Before the invsibleSHIELD I tried various screen-protectors , but I always had bubbles or dust underneath them.
With the invsibleSHIELD I just followed instructions , and volla , no airbubles, no dust , its makes the screen even brighter.
One negative point about it, its pricey , i ordered mine during Memorial Day (50 percent off),
Regards,
PS: Sorry for my bad english

How can a cover make the screen brighter? Are these skins polarized or something? I'm curious.

All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.

invisible shield
i wont take the chance of scratching my screen even if its impossible
invisible shield is not only on the front but on the back too.
its less sensitive for oily fingerprints - maybe that is why it looks a little bit brighter than without. before i had it, it was difficult to see in sunlight and now its better.
plus, the device wont slip of your hand, again do to the back cover.
so, i recommend invisible shield sincerely
cheers

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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...

unni3063 said:
My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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No problems here, and the screen protector isn't that thick, its just even thick like any other screen protector ,

Munto said:
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search.
Spending $10-20 on a quality screen protector is probably the cheapest insurance you could get to protect your screen if/when you scratch the protector and the scratch becomes unbearable, spend $10-20 on a new one
Though Ive not seen one before for mobile phones, there are privacy screens for laptop/desktop monitors. These screens significantly blur the image unless you are directly in front of the screen, if you tilt the screen more than 10degrees or so the screen will blur. These are used a lot in medical/financial institutions, sensitive departments within companies like HR. Ive seen these appearing on ATMs now too
I will agree there is no protector that will make your screen "brighter" that's just about impossible, anything put over the screen is actually going to attenuate any light coming though it, though it may not be perceivable. Certain protectors may eliminate screen glare, making the screen easier to see in certain lighting conditions

ohhh yeah, believe me the screen CAN be scratched! got two very nice ones to prove it. lol

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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search. ....
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Well about the brighter , i have the the shield now for a week, the screen looks better because there are no fingerprints on the screen , further its scrolls smoother

Sorry but I'd stay clear from Zagg's Invisible Shiled as it is not really effective nor fully stand their claim "as advertised".
After 3-4 months of use (in tropical countries or desert areas), the sands/dirts snug into the linings, then started to peel off little by little.
Had this product on my Fuze and then my Topaz a while back, not very happy about it.
The only good things about the product is (1)fancy retail packaging, and (2)their screen protector. Sorry.

This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.

erosennin said:
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...

Dangerously said:
It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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How many times there have to be said that this capacitive screen is not made from GLASS, there are enough people one the web which HD2 got scratched, believe they will scratch

I have the full body zagg skin. Gotta say it's great. Simple to apply and really keeps the device from getting scratched. Even protects the corner. Don't get what the complaint above was about. It covers the screen so wtf are you talking about? Only thing I wish they'd fix is that you can't apply a skin or case over it. If you do it'll get stuck to it unless it's like a cloth case or something. Hope they fix that issue one day. Still not bad, plus I did like the OP and ordered on Memorial Day for like 12 dollars.

How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks

ilordvader said:
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent

Jalaluddin said:
ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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Thanks for reply
Can someone post some pics
front & back to get a idea how it looks
Thanks

Glue softens
I have to say I was happy for around 5 months - until it started to get warmer. Then the glue started to soften and smear out from under the shield. It made the screen look a bit of a mess and ultimatly the corners started to flap about because all of the glue had gone. Contacted Zagg customer support and they admitted this can happen when warm and humid. They suggested I use their replacement service but why should I pay around 6€ for postage in both directions if as soon as it gets warm it will be a mess again. Not very impressed. I'll stick to the electrostatic screen shields in the future. Can anybody recommend one?

Screen protector scratched by... included applicator card and microfiber cloth?

So I picked up a screen protector on Amazon by ArmorSuit... it seemed to have solid reviews and I heard reports of great customer service, so I spent the 20 bones to pick one up. I just now applied it, and it went on well without a hitch. Since it was a wet protector and majority of my screen protector experience was with dry ones, I watched the YouTube video and also thoroughly read the instructions. Last thing I wanted to do was install a wet protector incorrectly and mess up my device.
Once done I checked out the finish. Despite the fact it's been 20 minutes and not 12-24 hours like they say to let it sit, I noticed lots of tiny scratches on it, which definitely looked like it was from the applicator card. What baffles me more is I have a microfiber cloth that came with the kit that I was wiping the screen off with... I noticed even swirly scratches after I was done, yet this microfiber cloth has nothing in it whatsoever!
Er, uh. Has anybody ran into anything like this with screen protector application?
Despite this, I'm still relatively happy with the screen protector as it fits perfectly and was very quick and easy to install. That being said, I'm still a little disappointed in what I'm seeing here, but I'd still trade hairline scratches that aren't that visibleat all (and not visible whatsoever with the screen lit up) versus air bubbles and dust pockets which clearly are visible regardless... which is almost always the case with dry protectors... Don't get me wrong, it's not like it's a series of key-gouging lines here, but when video installation guide shows the tilted tablet glaring off of the ceiling light to show it is 100% smooth and flush with a perfect glass-like surface, that's where I can see these very fine marks.
Maybe, just maybe, this is some sort of epic self-healing screen protector that'll remove those blemishes over the next day as it sits. :laugh: Yes, just maybe.
EDIT, er... uh... under the bulleted list of features I found these two items that I may have overlooked when I first purchased it:
Self-healing technology , Military grade material engineered for your specific device
ArmorSuit Lifetime Replacement Warranty *Made in the USA*
lol????

My ArmorSuit came with a nice horizontal scratch in it and these visible shallow 'gouges'. I'm guessing from the installation card. I'm getting rid of it as it just doesn't look clean. Looks like a thin slab of rubber and not perfectly flat like the glass. YMMV though as I know I didn't install it Grade A, but still, I can't imagine that this screen protector can look or feel like glass.
Part of me like the feel of these wet protectors, but it does feel unnatural and sort of tiring to use. I opted for the 3-pack of CrazyOnDigital (clear) protectors. I figure I will mess up 1, get 1 right, and keep 1 for next year.

For installing via wet method (sounds dirty no? lol) you have to get almost everything but the device "wet". That includes your fingers and the screen protector (both sides) itself and also the squeegee or card or whatever you call it...
I have seen what is called 'burn' marks if not properly wet. Sucks I know! But The wet products in my experience are always great when finally dry. I have the XO skin and it's about totally dry. Looks great IMO.

"burn marks" sounds about right

kpjimmy said:
For installing via wet method (sounds dirty no? lol) you have to get almost everything but the device "wet". That includes your fingers and the screen protector (both sides) itself and also the squeegee or card or whatever you call it...
I have seen what is called 'burn' marks if not properly wet. Sucks I know! But The wet products in my experience are always great when finally dry. I have the XO skin and it's about totally dry. Looks great IMO.
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I'm not sure how much more wet you can get a screen protector when it's already dripping, which was the status of it when I placed it on the screen. Likewise, I did wash my hands just prior and also had my hands both completely saturated in the provided fluid.
Burn marks sounds like some food for thought, but I'm unsure how you can get a burn mark from a microfiber cloth when I'm wiping the screen off in a circular motion. I mean, I didn't attach it to a circular sander or anything...
So in the event this magical self healing thing doesn't live up, what other screen protector would you guys recommend? I definitely want to go with a wet application, as I'm already able to tell a world of difference, but I'm a little dissatisfied with how incredibly sensitive this protector is to scratches. It's great you can take a dremel to it and it still protects the actual tablet screen but when a microfiber cloth scratches it I can't say it impresses me.
EDIT - Just got an email response from them minutes ago. The bulk of the message is pasted below:
Regarding the marks on your screen protector:
Any filmy marks, air bubbles, swirl marks or haze underneath the screen protector is due to the solution, which can take up to 2 weeks to go away. It typically doesn't take this long, but it will eventually go away because the material is designed to be breathable. This will release any trapped solution.
Regarding the scratches on your screen, here is a quick and easy fix.
1. Please turn off your device.
2. With your screen protector still on your device, spray 1 pump on the screen protector and then spread the solution evenly with the included microfiber cloth.
3. The scratches should then disappear soon, within a few days at the very most because the material is self-healing.
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I guess I'll have to be a little more patient and see what happens.

Not sure why they don't just put this in the instructions, but here's a trick:
When you're pushing the bubbles out, put the piece of plastic that you peeled the protector off of over the screen. Don't ever use the squeegee directly on the screen.

slack04 said:
Not sure why they don't just put this in the instructions, but here's a trick:
When you're pushing the bubbles out, put the piece of plastic that you peeled the protector off of over the screen. Don't ever use the squeegee directly on the screen.
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I thought the same thing, but once I realized that the microfiber cloth was giving swirl marks, that whole premise behind that idea kind of crumbled. If a microfiber cloth will legitimently give this screen protector swirl scratches from wiping it clean, then that's pretty fail.
That being said, I'm remaining quite optimistic about this "self healing" thing. Maybe I will see them slowly disappear? Who knows. It is a little more comforting knowing they have a lifetime guarantee, but we'll tackle that conversation when/if it ever becomes necessary. At any rate, I keep reminding myself - at least the screen protector still looks 1000% better than any dry screen protector AND it's protecting the screen in the process. :good:

cfn87 said:
My ArmorSuit came with a nice horizontal scratch in it and these visible shallow 'gouges'. I'm guessing from the installation card. I'm getting rid of it as it just doesn't look clean. Looks like a thin slab of rubber and not perfectly flat like the glass. YMMV though as I know I didn't install it Grade A, but still, I can't imagine that this screen protector can look or feel like glass.
Part of me like the feel of these wet protectors, but it does feel unnatural and sort of tiring to use. I opted for the 3-pack of CrazyOnDigital (clear) protectors. I figure I will mess up 1, get 1 right, and keep 1 for next year.
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I ordered the exact same 3-pack and I have to say they're great. Got it perfect on the first try and it looks crystal clear. It looks a lot better than those $10-$20 dollar protectors out there.
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PhantomSkinz for the 5T

Some days ago I was given the opportunity by @Guru from PhantomSkinz, a company based in the USA, to review their phoneskin/full body protector for the Oneplus 5T. Because I'm living in Europe, I had to pay the shippingcosts myself. This was something around 12usd. Yesterday I received the skins and today I applied them to my 5T.
One the website I had choosen the ultraclear skin with stretch-guard technology. This strech-guard technology protects the phone extra form sudden impact like when the phone falls on the ground. Guru also added the snake skin which also had my attention, so that one is for later to try.
PACKAGING
The product itself comes nicely packed.
The package comes with:
- screenprotectors (2x)
- back filmprotector
- microfiber cloth
- application spray
Here are some pictures of the filmprotectors which came in my package.
Screenprotectors:
Back filmprotector
Snakeskin
As you can see on the picture of the Snakeskin, it's quite textured, so it should add some extra grip. But Guru told the the clear protector properly would add some more grip. And I guess it does.
INSTALLATION
On their website there is an instuctionvideo of how the skin can be applies to the phone. It's quite an easy process. You thouroughly clean you screen, put some spray on the screen, put some spray on the back of the protector and apply it to the screen, make shure it fits properly and then remove gently the water using a (credit)card or any other card wrapped inside the microfiber cloth. There is really not much else to it.
I first applied the screenprotector. After applying it I freaked out a bit, the screen wasn't as clear as in the instructionvideo. Not even close. There were a lot of spots and smudges under the screenprotector. Had I done something wrong???
After a few seconds I remembered I had this once before with an other screenprotector on an other phone. I remembered the smudges and spots disappeared after time. One hour later, the smudges and spots were not as severe as they used to be in the beginnen. There are still some spots on the screen, but I guess they will go away after some time.
So after applying the front it was time to apply the back. Same procedure.
One thing I noticed was that the ultra clear protector doesn't have protection for the side of the phone, where the Snakeskin does have side protection. I'm not shure why this is the case, but I guess it hase something to do with thickness of the ultraclear protector because of the stretch-guard technology. Not every skin has this protection. But still, when the phone falls on the ground and it falls on its side, then there is no protection there... On the top, bottom and corners there is the extra protection. And man oh man oh man, those cutouts are precise!!! Haven't had a protector before with such precise cutouts. Maybe around the camera it's a bit too precise, because next to the camera bump there stays a tiny little airbubble. At this time I can't get this air bubble to go away. I rub it away with the microfiber cloth but after some time it there again. Time will tell. For the camera glass itself there is also a protection film. It was a bit of a struggle to peel of the protectionfilm that was sticking on it, but I managed to get it off.. Make shure you have some nails to peel it of
As you can properly see on the picture, there where the 5T logo is, there are many tiny airbubbles. Let's hope these will also go away after time.
The days after
Looks like all the bubbles are going away.
All that there is left are some tiny airbubbles of which I hope they will also disappear over time.
The 5T logo is still not looking very nice, but let's hope this will also get better over time
All the bubble are gone now. Only at the camera bumb there is some air under the film, and at the 5T logo there is some air left. Not really a big deal. I guess the cutout of the camera is just a little bit too tight. I'll see what I can do with a hair dryer.
DAILY USE
I've been using the phone with the full body skin for almost a day now. It feels like the skin is getting/feeling/looking better after some time.
Like mentioned before, the responsiveness is just great. The screenprotector also feels great when swiping with the fingers or typing.
The grip is actually quite amazing. When holding the phone in the hand after a few seconds it feels like the phone is sticking to the fingers on the back of the phone. It feels really grippy at that point.
Yesterday I said the thing was a fingerprint magnet. Today it doen't feel like that anymore. Fingerprints are still visible, but not really worse compared to other screenprotectors. Sometimes it feels like there are a lot of fingerprints, and other moments I feel like there are hardly any fingerprints. But if there are fingerprints and smudges, then they can be wiped off quite easily.
CONCLUSION
So there you have it. Overall I think this can be an amazing screen/full body protection for the phone. There are still some tiny airbubbles underneath the skin, but I expect them to disappear in the upcoming days. For now this skin feels like an actual winner. There are hardly any negative points I can think of. The biggest 'mistake' is that there is the clear skin doesn't wrap the sides of the phone. I'll have to ask @Guru or the customersupport why this is the case. But overall, it looks en feels great.
+ The skin really is ultraclear, so you preserve the beautifull looks of the phone
+ The ultraclear protector actually adds some extra grip. I have to find out over time if it's enough for me.
+ The cutouts are amazingly precise. Haven't seen this precize before (already tried, dbrand, skinnova and slickwraps on different phones)
+ Applying the skin is quite ease. Just take your time.
+ The ultraclear protector has self healing technology, so if it scratched, it fills up the scratch itself.
+ Responsiveness of the screen isn't affected.
+ No rainbow effect or whatsoever like seen on many glass protectors.
+ Fingerprints and smudges can be wiped off easily
- There is no cutout for the front camera, time will tell if this is a problem with taking pictures, face recognition seems to work without any problems.
- With the ultraclear protector there is no side protection.
- Fingerprints visible.
- Around the camerebump the protector seems to be a tiny bit too tight
Ps, you can probably tell English is not my native language. If you have any tips on how to correct some spelling/grammar mistakes, please send me a PM. Any other questions can be asked here in this topic.

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Anyone Removing Inner Screen Protector?

If you do can you post a video and the steps you use. I've heard the screen is much better without it but I'm extremely nervous about removing it.

StormCell said:
If you do can you post a video and the steps you use. I've heard the screen is much better without it but I'm extremely nervous about removing it.
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There are several videos on YouTube. It looks really easy to do.
Edit: here's a couple of them:
https://youtu.be/AMjDBKvsWvE
https://youtu.be/FDfTzFznJa4

anuraj1 said:
There are several videos on YouTube. It looks really easy to do.
Edit: here's a couple of them:
https://youtu.be/AMjDBKvsWvE
https://youtu.be/FDfTzFznJa4
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Did you do it?

StormCell said:
Did you do it?
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My Fold2 doesn't arrive until tomorrow. I haven't decided if I'm going to remove it yet since i haven't seen it in person.

I did it... It was very easy.. The screens feel better but it looks the same to me... If you don't like the feel of the screen protectors than just remove it... Do it slow and take your time but it very easy to do.. it also doesn't collect as much fingerprints on it now...

I bit the bullet and removed the screen protector from the inside screen. It was extremely easy, I just used a sheet of paper to gently pull away from the camera cutout enough to grasp it and pull off as easily as any other protector.
I can confirm the screen feels fantastic now, instead of a rubbery sticky feeling to that of glass. It also no longer attracts fingerprints. It seems more responsive and sharper.
I think as long as you take care not to get anything abrasive on the screen it will remain in good condition.
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I scratched the screen protecton with my finger nail do you think that without the protection the screen is also so delicate?

nereya82 said:
I scratched the screen protecton with my finger nail do you think that without the protection the screen is also so delicate?
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YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.

dezborders said:
YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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I understand what you are saying but the original Fold did not have this factory fitted screen protector. I read a lot of people's experiences with that device, stating that the screen is more durable than first anticipated and no real reports of extensive problems relating to scratches over the many months of use. The Fold 2 has a more durable construction than that and I am confident it will live up to the same expectations, provided you take a little more care overall than you would a regular phone. Also someone mentioned that the screen protector hardly protects it anyway, you can still dig a fingernail into it without too much pressure.
The rubbery sticky texture of the screen protector left me feeling disappointed when using the inner screen, and constant smudges (which weren't quick and easy to remove compared to a glass screen) that impaired the clarity and sharpness of the display. So after careful thought I removed it, and now it just feels like a proper glass screen and fingerprints are no longer an issue. The experience is vastly improved and I don't feel that the screen is vulnerable either.
If it turns out that the screen suffers from damage in the next 12 months, then I will get it replaced for £100 and then consider keeping the protector on. But for now I am more than happy with the reasons for removing it.
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For me, I found myself applying greater pressure when cleaning the fingerprints and smudges on the installed screen protector, and cleaning it more frequently. That continual process is surely more detrimental to the device than worrying about the possibility of a scratch. A quick swipe with a microfiber cloth now takes care of things and puts my mind at ease.
With the addition of the little feet on the bezel of the inner screen, there is a much lessened chance of debris getting caught between the folded screen.

I'm with apprentice on this one and agree pretty much down the line. I asked this question on the OG thread as did another fellow and there was not one report of problems with screen scratching and all reported it had proved more durable than expected in reference to the entire device.
I've got the screen replacement in one year if it proves to be worse than expected. If I need to I'll look at getting back into a protector after the replacement should it be needed. In the end of it for me the only thing crazier than spending 2k on this device is spending 2k on this device and not enjoying it. The screen protector was detracting from my experience enough for me to want it gone and having removed I now know more than I realized. I'm not going to cheer-lead on this one but if a person was seriously bothered by the thing as I was then I would certainly recommend giving it a try while you still have your cheap out with the screen replacement.

So this afternoon I opened up my ZF2 and I saw 2 big bubbles underneath the screen protector. I tried to squeegee them out but to no avail. I wasn't planning on removing the screen protector but this point I had no choice. Used my ifixit spudger right at the selfie camera spot and it came up very easy. It does feel and look much better I must admit. I still have the front screen protector still on and I probably won't take it off anytime soon. Then again, on my S10e I still ahve the factory screen protector on and it still looks great.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Fg388lo
I purchased the SaharaCase protector from bestbuy as well as the Orzero 2 pack from Amazon. These are the exact same with a few caveats. They are as follows :
Best Buy Sahara
-29.99
-1 Front protector
-1 Back protector with spine cover
-1 Inside protector
Amazon Orzero
-Price 11.99
-2 front protectors
-2 inside protectors
The spine isn’t enough to justify the more than 2.5x in price. I have a Dbrand skin on the back, so the back cover was useless. For me the Best Buy option is a no go. Let me know if you have more questions or are looking for more pictures.
UPDATE :
I went ahead and applied the inner screen protector. I like the way it feels over the original. It’s smoother and closer to a glass feel. I’m waiting a full day to ensure that the micro bubbles disappear. If they do, then Orzero is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR GO. 3 Majors.
UPDATE 2:
It has been less than 24 hours and I want to provide an update...
THIS SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ALMOST PERFECT!!! It is very smooth to the touch. Almost all of the imperfections from my install are gone. There are 3 small bubbles that I’m waiting to disappear, but they have already shrunk. I think anyone looking for an upgrade over the default protector will be well served to grab a few of these. I say a few because it might take a few attempts to get it right, but at 11 dollars its worth it. Good luck everyone and let me know if you have any other questions.

There was a bubble and what looked like a small bit of dirt under the factory screen protector so I removed it. It was really easy to do and the screen feels great. I had the F1 which never had a screen protector and never had any issue with it so I think the F2 will be the same without it.

dezborders said:
YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen.
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Did you own the OG Fold? I did. The inside screen was far from fragile. Granted I take really good care of my device but the inside screen looked new after 8 months of use. I hate the screen protector Samsung used on the inside screen of the Fold 2. It's hazy, tacky to the touch, and a fingerprint magnet. I'm taking it off it's just a matter of when.

Any updates on this? How's the inner screen holding up for those of you that removed the inner screen protector?
I've had my phone for a week and really don't like the feel and smudginess of the inner screen protector and thus really want to peel it off.
Also, if appreciate if those of you who removed it could make a comment about how you handle your devices - ie. do you baby it or treat it more or less like any other phones?

Keeping mine on for now, I actually don't mind the feel of it and like the idea of the extra protective layer. Just waiting on cases to become available and ill be happy.

Martin5000 said:
Any updates on this? How's the inner screen holding up for those of you that removed the inner screen protector?
I've had my phone for a week and really don't like the feel and smudginess of the inner screen protector and thus really want to peel it off.
Also, if appreciate if those of you who removed it could make a comment about how you handle your devices - ie. do you baby it or treat it more or less like any other phones?
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Zero issues here... No regrets whatsoever. Feels, looks so much better than that rubbery crap it came with. Does make me feel a bit more cautious of course, but not enough to detract from normal usage and showing it off.

acshulk said:
https://imgur.com/gallery/Fg388lo
I purchased the SaharaCase protector from bestbuy as well as the Orzero 2 pack from Amazon. These are the exact same with a few caveats. They are as follows :
Best Buy Sahara
-29.99
-1 Front protector
-1 Back protector with spine cover
-1 Inside protector
Amazon Orzero
-Price 11.99
-2 front protectors
-2 inside protectors
The spine isn’t enough to justify the more than 2.5x in price. I have a Dbrand skin on the back, so the back cover was useless. For me the Best Buy option is a no go. Let me know if you have more questions or are looking for more pictures.
UPDATE :
I went ahead and applied the inner screen protector. I like the way it feels over the original. It’s smoother and closer to a glass feel. I’m waiting a full day to ensure that the micro bubbles disappear. If they do, then Orzero is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR GO. 3 Majors.
UPDATE 2:
It has been less than 24 hours and I want to provide an update...
THIS SCREEN PROTECTOR IS ALMOST PERFECT!!! It is very smooth to the touch. Almost all of the imperfections from my install are gone. There are 3 small bubbles that I’m waiting to disappear, but they have already shrunk. I think anyone looking for an upgrade over the default protector will be well served to grab a few of these. I say a few because it might take a few attempts to get it right, but at 11 dollars its worth it. Good luck everyone and let me know if you have any other questions.
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The Orzero got terrible reviews on Amazon. Most say it's horrendous. You really like it?
Did you install over the stock screen protector?

dezborders said:
YES its just as delicate as the Fold1 inner screen. ( See link to video in Indian forum.)
WHY are folks so keen to remove the factory fitted film so soon after purchase of a $2000 device?
By all means remove it (and replace it) after 6 months if it has picked up a scratch or two but until then LIVE WITH the fingerprints magnet and let the film protect the expensive and delicate main screen underneath it.
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