5G speeds in the UK - Google Pixel 5 Questions & Answers

Hi
I'm currently considering buying the Pixel 5, but was wondering if anyone had used the 5G service from EE in the Uk. What is the connection like and what speeds are you getting compared to 4g?
I live close to Liverpool and according to EE map I should get good coverage, although it doesn't mention indoors or outdoors reception.
Neil

Hi I'm with pixel 5 on EE , I'm in Edinburgh and the 5g speeds go up to the disappointing 70Mbps , but 4g is even more disappointing with 18Mbps , when the upload speeds are practically the same ???

No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.

Adrianfranc0 said:
Hi I'm with pixel 5 on EE , I'm in Edinburgh and the 5g speeds go up to the disappointing 70Mbps , but 4g is even more disappointing with 18Mbps , when the upload speeds are practically the same ???
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Hi
My 4g speeds at home are 75Mps so im hoping for quite good 5G speeds, only thing im worried about is the performance of the 5G on the pixel, still trying to decide on this one thought.

MrBelter said:
No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.
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I have a huawei P20 Pro and getting 75Mps on tests so I would like to see an improvement on this with the Pixel 5, havent quite decided whether to go for it yet but will post results here If I do

MrBelter said:
No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.
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Here's a good article on 5G even though he focuses on the iPhone 12. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/technology/personaltech/apple-iphone-12-review.html

Thanks for that interesting to see the variance in speeds,, and one thing that concerns me is if the pixel 5 modem in the 765g chipset is good enough to pick up weak signals in the area?

MrBelter said:
No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.
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I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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The UK Pixel 5 doesn't have the mmWave compatibility, just the sub-6 5g option. That part was only included in US devices. That's why the Pixel 5 in the US costs $699 instead of $599. Also why it's cheaper to buy in other regions.
Here in the UK the Pixel 4a 5G costs £499 and the Pixel 5 costs £599. So the prices are much closer. With the added benefits, I think the 5 is the better option here.

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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The 4A is too big otherwise I'd get it. Bigger battery on the 5 also but not by that much.

I tested Three's new 5G network in South London on my Pixel 5 and I was surprised to see peak speeds of around 300Mbps download which settled at an average of ~180Mbps. See enclosed Speedtest snapshot. Uploads speeds were disappointing at around 10-20Mbps. Still, much faster my Sky home broadband and much much faster than 4G. My usual 4G downloads at home averages 26-30Mbps and my Sky broadband is ~75Mbps.

As stated the difference in price is only 100 not 200 as in the states. The 5 is waterproof, which in the uk is kind of necessary, it's a better size, in my opinion, it has a bigger battery, better screen, more ram and the metal body would seem to be a stronger build. So that's why I would choose the 5 over the 4a 5g.

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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As stated the difference in price is only 100 not 200 as in the states. The 5 is waterproof, which in the uk is kind of necessary, it's a better size, in my opinion, it has a bigger battery, better screen, more ram and the metal body would seem to be a stronger build. So that's why I would choose the 5 over the 4a 5g.

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I tested Three's new 5G network in South London on my Pixel 5 and I was surprised to see peak speeds of around 300Mbps download which settled at an average of ~180Mbps. See enclosed Speedtest snapshot. Uploads speeds were disappointing at around 10-20Mbps. Still, much faster my Sky home broadband and much much faster than 4G. My usual 4G downloads at home averages 26-30Mbps and my Sky broadband is ~75Mbps.
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We're these speeds done indoors or outside, from what I gather here it's pretty disappointing whilst your inside building

nchesh said:
We're these speeds done indoors or outside, from what I gather here it's pretty disappointing whilst your inside building
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These were done outside whilst in a car park. I haven't got 5G in my area just yet so can't test indoors.

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These were done outside whilst in a car park. I haven't got 5G in my area just yet so can't test indoors.
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Thanks, hopefully I'll take the plunge and see what it's like near me and I'll post the results here

spikeydoo2006 said:
The UK Pixel 5 doesn't have the mmWave compatibility, just the sub-6 5g option. That part was only included in US devices. That's why the Pixel 5 in the US costs $699 instead of $599. Also why it's cheaper to buy in other regions.
Here in the UK the Pixel 4a 5G costs £499 and the Pixel 5 costs £599. So the prices are much closer. With the added benefits, I think the 5 is the better option here.
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We're these speeds done indoors or outside, from what I gather here it's pretty disappointing whilst your inside building
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Thanks guys, I learned a lot from you guys today!

JimSmith94 said:
Thanks guys, I learned a lot from you guys today!
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I've ordered my pixel 5 so fingers crossed when I get it it delivers what it promises

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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Better build, i don't want a headphone jack, smaller size, bigger battery.
The Pixel 5 seems to hold up very well indeed on mmWave https://youtu.be/n6M3wOXt0YY

spikeydoo2006 said:
The UK Pixel 5 doesn't have the mmWave compatibility, just the sub-6 5g option. That part was only included in US devices. That's why the Pixel 5 in the US costs $699 instead of $599. Also why it's cheaper to buy in other regions.
Here in the UK the Pixel 4a 5G costs £499 and the Pixel 5 costs £599. So the prices are much closer. With the added benefits, I think the 5 is the better option here.
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I wonder if people in the US will be able buy the UK version to save a few bucks if they're not interested in mmWave?

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Is it a good time too buy the P10 now

With all the news going around Huawei's false advertisement relating to the storage chip and the ram, is there news about what Huawei will decide to do, or are they still going quiet.
I'm still interested in getting the P10, but not knowing what i'll get. For those who does who have crap version, is there any noticable differences in normal daily use.
I'm open to suggestions, otherwise I have to decide whether to get the S8 or G6, but I prefer the P10 over those two.
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I think models in Europe should mostly have ufs storage. As for the ram, I've read that the kirin 960 cpu only supports lpddr4 type memory.
At the moment I have a p10, single sim 64gb version and have ufs memory, speeds are just shy of 700mb/s. Before I had an s7 edge.
I can say only this about my p10, it is BY FAR the fastest android phone that I have used. And I have used many. It rivals the iPhone 7, even beating it in some cases.
About the emmc version, I have watched a speed test between a xiaomi mi6 with ufs 2.1 and the xiaomi was faster by about 3 seconds at the end of the app opening test. They opened about 15 apps one after another and measured the total time.
Where they comparing the Xiaomi device to a eMMC device? Otherwise it's not comforting anyone getting a eMMC device
I am from Hong Kong, and we have the dual sim version, although I can check many phones at the shop, but I am not able to do this for the Huawei.
Will there be a really big differences between the memory used.
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Where they comparing the Xiaomi device to a eMMC device? Otherwise it's not comforting anyone getting a eMMC device
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Yes, they were using a p10 with emmc memory. The speed difference was minor compared to mi6 with ufs 2.1.
Here is the link:
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I am from Hong Kong, and we have the dual sim version, although I can check many phones at the shop, but I am not able to do this for the Huawei.
Will there be a really big differences between the memory used.
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I do not think there is much of a difference. Maybe only when copying large files.
Apple has done this with the iPhone 7 also. The baseline iPhone 7 and 7+ with 32gb of internal storage have about three times slower read/write speeds than the ones with 128/256.
Better to wait a month more for newer batches and less rush, so that the device comes with olephobic coating and UFS 2.1. However i don't expect a drop in price although might catch some temporary offers.
Thanks, got one locally and a brief testing, i get UFS 2.0, i'm happy with it, as long as it's not eMMC, even my sony Xperia XP is eMMC, and it's works well for me, although i traded it for the P10.
Is there a problem with WiFi speed on the P10? I saw some reviewers complaining about WiFi performance being way inferior compared to other 2017 and 2016 devices. Like P10 barely reaching 30mbit download speeds on 100 and more Mbit networks.
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Is there a problem with WiFi speed on the P10? I saw some reviewers complaining about WiFi performance being way inferior compared to other 2017 and 2016 devices. Like P10 barely reaching 30mbit download speeds on 100 and more Mbit networks.
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I have 50mb/s internet speed, speedtest.net app on phone always show above 48mb/s.
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I have 50mb/s internet speed, speedtest.net app on phone always show above 48mb/s.
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Thanks for the answer.
Is it a 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz network? My current device - OnePlus 3 performs very good on 5Ghz but on 2.4Ghz it only reaches maybe 20mbit. And I use a 150Mbit broadband link at home. My wife's iPhone 6s easily tops 100mbit on the same WiFi.
The issues that some YouTube reviewers reported with the P10 looked like the one I have with my OP3.
I am considering an upgrade to P10 and I really want it to be an upgrade
Ufs 2.0
Not bothered about the silly bollocks thing as this p10 is the best phone iv had, certainly the fastest, coming from owning every HTC flagship since 2011
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Ufs 2.0
Not bothered about the silly bollocks thing as this p10 is the best phone iv had, certainly the fastest, coming from owning every HTC flagship since 2011
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My first Huawei, and I really like it, choose this over the S8 and G6, it's a shame the pink version isn't available in Hong Kong, we only have the blue, black silver and gold, whiles china also have a pink and green, anyway, I intend to change the metal back, it's readly available in china very cheap, and seeing youtube, it's also very easy to change.
Also I get 42Mbps with 2.4Ghz and over 98Mbps with 5Ghz in wifi.
Not recommended to buy, I think xiaomi 6 more affordable
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Thanks for the answer.
Is it a 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz network? My current device - OnePlus 3 performs very good on 5Ghz but on 2.4Ghz it only reaches maybe 20mbit. And I use a 150Mbit broadband link at home. My wife's iPhone 6s easily tops 100mbit on the same WiFi.
The issues that some YouTube reviewers reported with the P10 looked like the one I have with my OP3.
I am considering an upgrade to P10 and I really want it to be an upgrade
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I have tried both on 2.4 and 5Ghz, though where I live internet speeds aren't so good, so the max I could have tested is 50mb/s. On both i always get over 48mb/s
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Not recommended to buy, I think xiaomi 6 more affordable
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it's down to personal preferences really, Mi 6 don't have a headphone jack and no micro SD card slot.
I've also owned a few flagships from HTC, Samsung and even iPhone.
Must admit that the P10 still is one of the quickest phones I've used. Battery does well, charging is quick.
Camera is fun to use and crisp. Fingerprint scanner is lightning fast. And I very much like the design of the phone.
Could've gone without EMUI, but given the opportunity to buy another P10 or a different flagship, I'd still opt for the P10.
I have 200/80 connection here in Bangkok. The P10 hits maximum with 5G connection. I find my 3 year old Samsung​ Galaxy Tab S hits consistently better speeds from further away, when compared to the P10. Hence, I use 2.4G when I am downstairs.
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Not recommended to buy, I think xiaomi 6 more affordable
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Now, the price of xiaomi mi6 is too expensive.
KevinX89 said:
Now, the price of xiaomi mi6 is too expensive.
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And also mi6 doesn't have all 3G/4G Band
Recent year Mi phones has become cheaply made and cost has increased, only their red mi has the cheap price.

Just got this a90

Wondering if anyone else is happy with this lovely midrange phone?
Got it for 669 interest free finance..
Looking for a 5g sim card to see the improvements over 4g
underdog_656 said:
Wondering if anyone else is happy with this lovely midrange phone?
Got it for 669 interest free finance..
Looking for a 5g sim card to see the improvements over 4g
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Yes such a great phone just got it for $625 from south korea but only problem can't get it to connect to a 5G network here in my area even though frequency bands are compatible
q8djent said:
Yes such a great phone just got it for $625 from south korea but only problem can't get it to connect to a 5G network here in my area even though frequency bands are compatible
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That sucks...
Does your area has coverage?
Yeah i was figuring that firmware region change would solve the problem but no global firmware is out
Yes my area covers 5G.
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Hows it going for you have you used the 5G ?
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Yeah i was figuring that firmware region change would solve the problem but no global firmware is out
Yes my area covers 5G.
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Hows it going for you have you used the 5G ?
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Well, I hope that samsung releases a firmware that would allow you to connect to 5g..
In my area only one provider supports 5g but it's very expensive, so I will wait for more providers that will have cheaper 5g
underdog_656 said:
Well, I hope that samsung releases a firmware that would allow you to connect to 5g..
In my area only one provider supports 5g but it's very expensive, so I will wait for more providers that will have cheaper 5g
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Thank you sir
Yeah usually expensive even here too high but i got a no commitment contract i cancel anytime with no extra fees.
I'm testing it with the Huawei 5G CPE Pro H370 Router
So far geeting Down 550 Mbps Up around 60 Mbps max to 11 Mbps min.
Will test different areas for the sake of my crazy OCD in speed tests :silly:
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Well, I hope that samsung releases a firmware that would allow you to connect to 5g..
In my area only one provider supports 5g but it's very expensive, so I will wait for more providers that will have cheaper 5g
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Hope you get yours soon
I got the A90 5g as a contract upgrade about a week ago. I have unlimited 5g data as part of my plan but don't currently have 5g in my area until early 2020, so can't comment on the 5g but I managed to unlock the boot loader and root it. I will attempt to create custom recovery for it but that will take much longer.
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I got the A90 5g as a contract upgrade about a week ago. I have unlimited 5g data as part of my plan but don't currently have 5g in my area until early 2020, so can't comment on the 5g but I managed to unlock the boot loader and root it. I will attempt to create custom recovery for it but that will take much longer.
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That's great news, thanks for working on this phone
I will post a quick guide later tonight.
As far as the phone itself. I love (nearly) everything about it. The screen is large, the display looks great and is bright, the cameras are the best I've used (although I'm no expert by any means), it runs really smooth. Even some of the Samsung bloat is useful like game launcher. The battery is fantastic, charging time is very fast. Gaming performance is A++ with the flagship CPU.
"Bad" things....6gb of ram, I had a RAZR phone with 8gb and you can tell the difference. I see they released a version with 8gb but alas mine isn't.
The fingerprint sensor doesn't seem to work as well in the screen as opposed to on the side or back where I'm used to it.
I also got this phone for "free" with my contact, I wouldn't exactly call £700 gbp mid range and I certainly would not have bought this on sim only. The Asus ROG would have been my choice with much better specs and a cheaper price tag albeit losing the 5g.
A90 5G Vs ROG 2
triggz881 said:
I will post a quick guide later tonight.
As far as the phone itself. I love (nearly) everything about it. The screen is large, the display looks great and is bright, the cameras are the best I've used (although I'm no expert by any means), it runs really smooth. Even some of the Samsung bloat is useful like game launcher. The battery is fantastic, charging time is very fast. Gaming performance is A++ with the flagship CPU.
"Bad" things....6gb of ram, I had a RAZR phone with 8gb and you can tell the difference. I see they released a version with 8gb but alas mine isn't.
The fingerprint sensor doesn't seem to work as well in the screen as opposed to on the side or back where I'm used to it.
I also got this phone for "free" with my contact, I wouldn't exactly call £700 gbp mid range and I certainly would not have bought this on sim only. The Asus ROG would have been my choice with much better specs and a cheaper price tag albeit losing the 5g.
A90 5G Vs ROG 2
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I managed to unlock the boot didn't root yet, still KT telecom bloatware on it it's annoying me even when i power up 5G KT logo stickin at bottom I just want to use my 5G package it's only giving me around 150+/- Mbps showing LTE+ i think it's network locked. Guess i have to wait for the global firmware or middle east cuz i reside their atm :crying: otherwise like what you said an awesome phone only downside 6GB RAM.
Thanks for sharing
Have to disagree with the ram comment. I also had and still have my Razer. The most ram i seemed to have in use on the Razer was around 3Gb meaning 4-5Gb Ram was just sat there... On my A90 theres still 2.1Gb of ram still not being used. The battery management miles better on the A90 than the Razer. The 120Hz LCD screen ate the battery after the last update (9) whereas the OLED panel is brilliant on the A90. DPI and resolution not as high as the Razer, but the overall picture still looks better on the A90. I do miss the Dual Dolby Atmos speakers on my Razer but the "Free Galaxy Buds" sound brilliant.
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Have to disagree with the ram comment. I also had and still have my Razer. The most ram i seemed to have in use on the Razer was around 3Gb meaning 4-5Gb Ram was just sat there... On my A90 theres still 2.1Gb of ram still not being used. The battery management miles better on the A90 than the Razer. The 120Hz LCD screen ate the battery after the last update (9) whereas the OLED panel is brilliant on the A90. DPI and resolution not as high as the Razer, but the overall picture still looks better on the A90. I do miss the Dual Dolby Atmos speakers on my Razer but the "Free Galaxy Buds" sound brilliant.
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I purchased two days before the galaxy buds offer -_-

Question How Valuable is 5G?

It's been around 2 years since 5G was made available on flagship and some mid-level devices. Curious if faster downloads and streaming is genuinely valuable and beyond this what other benefits are users experiencing with 5G functionality? Scale is 1 - 5 with 1 being little to no value and 5 being extremely valuable.
At this stage I’d have to give 5G a one, but we don’t know yet what this new technology with its enhanced bandwidth will make possible in the future.
3 the speed is really nice but the coverage is really bad, but this is just normal in Germany same with 4G at this time
It all depends on if you value your privacy. 4G allowed carriers to estimate your location to a very limited degree, within a block radius, as opposed to 5G where carriers can pinpoint your exact location within a few ft', regardless of the use of a VPN. Depending on the carrier you use, this location information is used by carriers to varying degrees in ways you would most likely oppose and consider obtrusive.
There's a reason it's being pushed so hard, even if 4G is still very reliable in terms of speed.
At home I have 5G service. On wifi speedtest told me 131Mbps down, 40.2 up. On 5G it was 133 and 28.5. Actually, it's odd that wifi was so low. I can do 40 megabytes per second while downloading steam games on wifi so something is off with the reading. But, 5G is probably pretty accurate for my area. I wouldn't call the 5G speed fast. It's decent. It's probably just 4G and they're calling it 5G but... it works. So, right now I'd say it's a 1 at home, sometimes nearer the big city it's better and then maybe it's a 3. Sometimes I can get it in range of very small spots where it's super fast and then maybe I'd rate it a 4. But, honestly whether my Ultra is in 4G or 5G it always seems "fast enough." So I guess 5G really isn't such a big deal.
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It's been around 2 years since 5G was made available on flagship and some mid-level devices. Curious if faster downloads and streaming is genuinely valuable and beyond this what other benefits are users experiencing with 5G functionality? Scale is 1 - 5 with 1 being little to no value and 5 being extremely valuable.
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I would value it at 3, if it means extra costs, I would skip it.
Yes it's faster, but I don't know what you use your phone's mobile connection for?
Watching Youtube, browsing the web? 4G already fast enough
Tethering for work? 4G already fast enough to check emails and such
Tethering to download/upload large files, like games or video files maybe? If the data is unlimited, then it's more comfortable but optional.
Coverage? Here in Hong Kong where I live, it's great, but who knows in many countries.
As I said, more expensive=would pass, same price=why not?
To phrase it in an a different way, I'm questioning the way it's been marketed. It's touted by device manufacturers and service providers as the greatest innovation since the invention of the wheel. Going forward it should be worth the investment for certain IoT but I'm not clear what those features will be and they still seem to be some ways off. I don't use it and would be hesitant if it came at a cost. 4G LTE is pretty fast for any practical purposes. My service provider T-mobile offers plans at $20/5GB, $30/10GB and $40/30GB per month. If Samsung offered the S21 for $200 less without 5G I'd probably take it. At this point in time I'd be hard pressed to grade it beyond 1.
It's useful for using more battery especially on 1st generation phones

Question Is the 10 Pro worth getting?

Greetings,
I've been browsing the sub for a bit and watched a few reviews about the phone because I have a pretty great deal for one and might consider buying it. I tried it out for a few minutes in a store the other day and it feels and looks great.
There seems to be a lot of negative talk, mostly against the fact that 1+ is now just a flagship, which I don't care too much about. Nor do I for the camera or selfie-notch or whatever.
Are the software issues and such really that annoying to deal with? Are there other phones you'd recommend instead? Am I better off just hoping the 11 is a greater phone and keeping my 7Pro for now?
Pre-thanks for the answers!
It is a great phone however if your fussy, like to modify and customize ect (live for the root) then you will find it frustrating
I find it's great, once i overcame the things i hated and removed, or rewrote some bits to get the outcome i wanted. Ease of use is great, camera is 9/10 IMO. It is a good phone regardless
khapunkap said:
Greetings,
I've been browsing the sub for a bit and watched a few reviews about the phone because I have a pretty great deal for one and might consider buying it. I tried it out for a few minutes in a store the other day and it feels and looks great.
There seems to be a lot of negative talk, mostly against the fact that 1+ is now just a flagship, which I don't care too much about. Nor do I for the camera or selfie-notch or whatever.
Are the software issues and such really that annoying to deal with? Are there other phones you'd recommend instead? Am I better off just hoping the 11 is a greater phone and keeping my 7Pro for now?
Pre-thanks for the answers!
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good phone but don't buy ne2215 single sim i was f****d
Just a tough question.
If you want a great phone with superb performance and amazing hardware, plus an battery that just doesn't quit then yes.
But if you're expecting a flashers paradise which is what most OnePlus buyers want then I'm afraid the answer is a solid no, at least for now.
Any phone I've ever had before if it's going to prove to be a developers haven, we would already have ROMs popping up all over the place, alas with the 10 pro it's just not the case, then again neither is it with the pixel 6 or pro.
I hope it's not a sign of things to come, but for now it's a far cry from everybody's previous device.
Even the threads on XDA are convoluted and confusing, especially on the app.
I'd say look elsewhere but at least on paper, the two aforementioned devices are the best that is currently on offer.
Difficult time to buy unless you don't mind last gens phone. In which case I'd say go 8 pro or the 9 if flashing ROMs is your thing.
I hope it turns around but time is ticking away and the longer it goes on the slimmer the chances.
Pixel 6 Pro NOT worth buying !
After many bugs, new offer from google : "no network" (not from SIM , not from wifi). In the USA.
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Pixel 6 Pro NOT worth buying !
After many bugs, new offer from google : "no network" (not from SIM , not from wifi). In the USA.
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I ditched the Pixel 6 Pro awhile ago. Just too buggy with the first generation Tensor SoC....
null0seven said:
Pixel 6 Pro NOT worth buying !
After many bugs, new offer from google : "no network" (not from SIM , not from wifi). In the USA.
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the mobile reception is so bad on pixel 6 pro, they use exynos crap, i returned immediately
im getting 5g full bars with oneplus as always
khapunkap said:
Greetings,
I've been browsing the sub for a bit and watched a few reviews about the phone because I have a pretty great deal for one and might consider buying it. I tried it out for a few minutes in a store the other day and it feels and looks great.
There seems to be a lot of negative talk, mostly against the fact that 1+ is now just a flagship, which I don't care too much about. Nor do I for the camera or selfie-notch or whatever.
Are the software issues and such really that annoying to deal with? Are there other phones you'd recommend instead? Am I better off just hoping the 11 is a greater phone and keeping my 7Pro for now?
Pre-thanks for the answers!
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listen mate go for xiaomi mi 11 ultra i regret that i sold it perfect phone
Would the nothing phone be worth considering?
Aesthetically it's a stunner IMO...
dladz​I, too, like Nothing phone. For the design in the first place. The price is tempting.
I Hate rounded phones (dildo like), rounded corners, curved screen (useless expensive creap).
khapunkap​if money is no issue get Xiaomi 12S Ultra.
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Just a tough question.
If you want a great phone with superb performance and amazing hardware, plus an battery that just doesn't quit then yes.
But if you're expecting a flashers paradise which is what most OnePlus buyers want then I'm afraid the answer is a solid no, at least for now.
Any phone I've ever had before if it's going to prove to be a developers haven, we would already have ROMs popping up all over the place, alas with the 10 pro it's just not the case, then again neither is it with the pixel 6 or pro.
I hope it's not a sign of things to come, but for now it's a far cry from everybody's previous device.
Even the threads on XDA are convoluted and confusing, especially on the app.
I'd say look elsewhere but at least on paper, the two aforementioned devices are the best that is currently on offer.
Difficult time to buy unless you don't mind last gens phone. In which case I'd say go 8 pro or the 9 if flashing ROMs is your thing.
I hope it turns around but time is ticking away and the longer it goes on the slimmer the chances.
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XDA has been terrible over the years. The search feature is so flawed now it almost seems like a waste of time to tell people to search for anything. The app is garbage now and basically was a slap in the face to users who had to pay for the premium app back in the day to get good usability.
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dladz​I, too, like Nothing phone. For the design in the first place. The price is tempting.
I Hate rounded phones (dildo like), rounded corners, curved screen (useless expensive creap).
khapunkap​if money is no issue get Xiaomi 12S Ultra.
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Loool at dildo phone. That made me chuckle.. what's the price on the nothing phone? Has that been provided yet?? Also one problem I may have with it is the SOC that's been chosen.
Design wise tho, looks amazing.
Plus Carl Pei on board can only be a good thing
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XDA has been terrible over the years. The search feature is so flawed now it almost seems like a waste of time to tell people to search for anything. The app is garbage now and basically was a slap in the face to users who had to pay for the premium app back in the day to get good usability.
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Lol I forgot about that, but I did buy the premium app, then it just disappeared. The categories looks like someone made a change for the sake of making a change, it's less intuitive.
Oh wow, now that's some original OnePlus pricing..
Amazing
Nothing phone price for the smaller ram/storage around 460 euro
Oled, 120hz, 6,55 inch
Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon 778G+ 5G (6 nm) chipset (mid ranger)
Can you get it ? "Leakers" say is by invite only..., like OnePlus One was...
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Nothing phone price for the smaller ram/storage around 460 euro
Oled, 120hz, 6,55 inch
Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon 778G+ 5G (6 nm) chipset (mid ranger)
Can you get it ? "Leakers" say is by invite only..., like OnePlus One was...
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I have an invite so I could, just don't have the extra cash ATM, plus knowing my luck I'd get it then a tonne of custom ROMs would come out for the 10 pro.
Black or white ?.. i am so racist!..
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Nothing phone price for the smaller ram/storage around 460 euro
Oled, 120hz, 6,55 inch
Qualcomm SM7325-AE Snapdragon 778G+ 5G (6 nm) chipset (mid ranger)
Can you get it ? "Leakers" say is by invite only..., like OnePlus One was...
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Not that they're selling it in the US to begin with but I couldn't do a 778G+ chip. Gotta have a flagship. There is a massive gap between 778G+ and 8 gen 1.
Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 vs Snapdragon 778G Plus: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 against 778G Plus to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
nanoreview.net
I had to go to a custom ROM thanks to OnePlus throttling the SoC on my 9 because the browsing performance was garbage without the X1 core and the 778G+ Geekbench single core score is similar to the throttled 9 performance. Thanks but no thanks.
Yes, the Nothing phone 778G+ chip is a big step backwards!
If money is a problem, Nothing phone is good. Nothing is around 470 euro, 10 Pro - 919 euro (8/128)
And SD 778 is the best performance processor for midrangers phones.
I like Very Much the design of OnePlus 10R (global Ace)

Question Pixel 5a - worth buying in 2022? 🤔

Greetings to Pixel 5a owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day. I'm choosing between these two models.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 5a right now? I am excited about its battery life; at the same time, it's not that large and heavy. However, I'm a bit concerned that it has only 6 GB of RAM, and the Snapdragon processor might be not too future-proof, as Google might save some features for their Tensor-based models. What do you think?
Best,
Andrii
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Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 5a right now? I am excited about its battery life; at the same time, it's not that large and heavy. However, I'm a bit concerned that it has only 6 GB of RAM, and the Snapdragon processor might be not too future-proof, as Google might save some features for their Tensor-based models. What do you think?
Best,
Andrii
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Currently I only use my 5a and 6 for testing.
Between the two, I prefer the 5a and plan on switching to it as my daily use phone.
I am still using (and like) my 3a as my daily-use phone.
The 5a is very close in size and style.
Between the camera style and positioning, a dedicated fingerprint sensor, ..
Might be why I prefer the 5a.
Cheers.
Forgot to add - both 6 and 5a are Japanese versions. I have found that the shutter sound can't be disabled; maybe you know any other issues or differences?
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Between the two, I prefer the 5a and plan on switching to it as my daily use phone.
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Between the camera style and positioning, a dedicated fingerprint sensor, ..
Might be why I prefer the 5a.
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thanks for sharing your experience! very helpful!!
As I stated in your Pixel 5 thread, I believe you can still get the 5a new. Here are the main differences between the 5 and 5a:
Screen size: 5a is bigger but only 60Hz, 5 is 90Hz
Battery capacity: 5 has 4080MaH, 5a 4680
RAM: 5 has 8GB, 5a has 6GB
Wireless charging: 5a doesn't have it
They both use the same SoC (Snapdragon 765G), same GPU, and same modem.
There are some additional minor differences - the 5 has Gorilla Glass 6, vs the 5a only uses Gorilla Glass 3. Negligible with a screen protector. 5 is IP68, 5a is IP67.
V0latyle said:
As I stated in your Pixel 5 thread, I believe you can still get the 5a new. Here are the main differences between the 5 and 5a:
Screen size: 5a is bigger but only 60Hz, 5 is 90Hz
Battery capacity: 5 has 4080MaH, 5a 4680
RAM: 5 has 8GB, 5a has 6GB
Wireless charging: 5a doesn't have it
They both use the same SoC (Snapdragon 765G), same GPU, and same modem.
There are some additional minor differences - the 5 has Gorilla Glass 6, vs. the 5a only uses Gorilla Glass 3. Negligible with a screen protector. 5 is IP68, 5a is IP67.
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Thanks, buddy, for kindly sharing your feedback in both threads.
I am planning to purchase a new device this week and was trying to get as much feedback as possible within an extremely short period of time.
Initially, I thought about P5 vs. P5A vs. P6.
Only used P5 are in stock, so its battery life is likely even worse than the new P5A and P6. So now, I'm choosing between the latter two.
JetVoz said:
Thanks, buddy, for kindly sharing your feedback in both threads.
I am planning to purchase a new device this week and was trying to get as much feedback as possible within an extremely short period of time.
Initially, I thought about P5 vs. P5A vs. P6.
Only used P5 are in stock, so its battery life is likely even worse than the new P5A and P6. So now, I'm choosing between the latter two.
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TBH I haven't handled the P6, but with the physical design and the problems many have had with the new hardware, I'd say stick with the P5a. I doubt the 2GB of RAM will make much difference for you. My wife uses hers pretty heavily for playing games and she's never had an issue with sluggishness.
If you want to be able to root, make sure you buy an unbranded Google device.
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make sure you buy an unbranded Google device
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What do you mean under "unbranded"?
I saw devices sold in open boxes, and their screens are covered by a protective film like on new phones—the semi-transparent on the P5A and the solid white on P6.
I assume they might be the refurbished units. Is there any way to check it?
upd: ##786# and *#*#786#*#* do not work either on my P4A or other phones, and I assume, on P5A and P6 won't work as well
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What do you mean under "unbranded"?
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Don't get a carrier branded device. But since you're in the Ukraine, I'm not sure this would be of any concern.
JetVoz said:
I saw devices sold in open boxes, and their screens are covered by a protective film like on new phones—the semi-transparent on the P5A and the solid white on P6.
I assume they might be the refurbished units. Is there any way to check it?
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No idea.
JetVoz said:
upd: ##786# and *#*#786#*#* do not work either on my P4A or other phones, and I assume, on P5A and P6 won't work as well
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What are you trying to do with that?
V0latyle said:
What are you trying to do with that?
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I have
V0latyle said:
No idea.
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Hello, I also from Ukraine, I bought my 5a 2 month ago in stylus. Everything works fine. It's not Japan it's US model.
Thanks, @ipdev, @V0latyle, @[email protected], for your feedback
Today I placed my order for the P5A (US version), and I look forward to receiving it next week! Should I check something when in-store? I'm not confident about the seller, so it's better to find out issues before paying.
The idea was: Everything works for me in my P4A, except its battery drains too fast. P5A is similar to P4A but with excellent battery life. Snapdragon SoC, 60Hz screen, and rear-mounted fingerprint are more pros to me than cons.
Bad thing with this phone is how easily overheats during warm summer days while taking pictures or having video call and gps turned on. Google really made cheapest phone they could.
Also idiots from google didn't enable VoLTE like normal company but they locked it so only "certified" carriers have it. This is my first and last pixel phone.
Battery is great, cameras are standard Google reliable and good.
Clean Android with regular updates is also good and everything just works.
predragiPredrag said:
Bad thing with this phone is how easily overheats during warm summer days while taking pictures or having video call and gps turned on. Google really made cheapest phone they could.
Also idiots from google didn't enable VoLTE like normal company but they locked it so only "certified" carriers have it. This is my first and last pixel phone.
Battery is great, cameras are standard Google reliable and good.
Clean Android with regular updates is also good and everything just works.
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Just install custom and do undervoult for CPU and GPU it will be colder and more battery backup
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Just install custom and do undervoult for CPU and GPU it will be colder and more battery backup
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I am hesitant to do that since I risk lossing banking apps and payments that use nfc. Google is trying hard to disable hiding of unlocked bootloader...idiots.
Only ROM that for now works is pixel experience and rooting will again cause issues with banking and payment apps.
I don't know, magisk is hiding it perfectly
Thinking of buying it for 2023, but it was released only in like 3-4 countries so the communites for ROMs and other development could be far stronger. Rule#1 when future-proofing through custom ROMs: Make sure the phone is widely available.
eried1 said:
Thinking of buying it for 2023, but it was released only in like 3-4 countries so the communites for ROMs and other development could be far stronger. Rule#1 when future-proofing through custom ROMs: Make sure the phone is widely available.
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I'd personally say stay away. The overheating issue isn't *terrible* if you're not a frequent user of video chat, but when you do need it, your phone is going to overheat and your radios shut off. I was trying to use a telehealth visit with my doctor for a recent diagnosis using 5G on Visible, and it keep shutting off the radio and freezing the phone. I had to use my wife's iPhone instead. The doctor couldn't even call my phone because it was locked up for 5 minutes.
I'm on my 3rd Pixel 5a (due to screen breaks) they have all had the overheating issue. It won't come up for months but if/when it does come up it can be during a critical time.

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