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Hello everyone,
I'm thinking about this phone, but my first priority is to be able to connect it via cable with my Pioneer AppRadio (I know there is miracast, chromecast etc - been there, tried both, sound quality with compression is really low).
As this device has USB 3.1 - would any adapter work?
I can't seem to find exact answers if all usb 3.1 type-c devices support hdmi out (or some sort of mhl).
Thanks
I'm also interested in this. Did anyone check if MHL or Slimport is working on Z2 pro?
Hi,
After looking in this site http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z2-8125.php, i can see that this is a usb 2 adapter with a type-c connector.
They also don't mention mhl/hdmi so this means that it is probably not supported.
I don't think there is any relation between usb and mhl or hdmi.
Hope this helps.
I did read somewhere it only supports wifi direct as display output but I can not find my source
It can work, because we can have it with USB 3.1, but we need drivers/settings inside a kernel and custom rom.
I have a usb 3.1 type C module who give me charge, usb 3.0 port and hdmi port, actually, only USB 3.0 port work.
The point is , it's getting harder and harder to find a good phone with 4/4+ GB RAM with video out support. No one really knows why they're moving away from this tech even if it's cheap and easy to implement. Some people say they're trying to promote wireless connectivity, others say having those powerful phones support video out will eventually prevent people from buying entry-level laptops. Anyhow, it's weird. If you know of any device with 4 or more GB of RAM (Sony's devices excluded) that support video out, please let us know!
HTC 10 and LG G5 both support HDMI out.
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youngcity said:
HTC 10 and LG G5 both support HDMI out.
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I forgot to exclude LG too. After G2, their flagships are a disappointment, one way or another.
Anyway, thanx for the info, I didn't know HTC 10 supports it.
MHL® – Devices
Search to find MHL-enabled devices categorized by device type, brand, and MHL version.
www.mhltech.org
Only as an informative note, the V series of lg was characterized by continuing to have the slimport hdmi connectivity, the lg v30 has it, however the lg6 does not have it as if it had the lg g5. At the moment the 2 range tops of lg, that is, lg g7 and lg v40 no longer have hdmi connection by usb c, you can only get the image via miracast. Another fact to keep in mind is that the lg g7 has usb c 3.1 and lg v40 has usb c 2.0 compatible with 3.1, but that of v40 is NOT 3.1. a greeting
Appears not. But then again, I never used the cable I had with my V30. I will say, microsoft display adapters are pretty cheap, almost as cheap as the cable. (assuming your TV does not support miracast natively).
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Only as an informative note, the V series of lg was characterized by continuing to have the slimport hdmi connectivity, the lg v30 has it, however the lg6 does not have it as if it had the lg g5. At the moment the 2 range tops of lg, that is, lg g7 and lg v40 no longer have hdmi connection by usb c, you can only get the image via miracast. Another fact to keep in mind is that the lg g7 has usb c 3.1 and lg v40 has usb c 2.0 compatible with 3.1, but that of v40 is NOT 3.1. a greeting
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Where do you find that USB 2.0?
Maybe in the future. As far as I know it's disabled in the kernel. The kernel source seems to be broken for some reason. I'm getting a cable that can debug it and hopefully fix it. I only have the g7 but the kernel is almost the same for the v40.
kevin_23 said:
Only as an informative note, the V series of lg was characterized by continuing to have the slimport hdmi connectivity, the lg v30 has it, however the lg6 does not have it as if it had the lg g5. At the moment the 2 range tops of lg, that is, lg g7 and lg v40 no longer have hdmi connection by usb c, you can only get the image via miracast. Another fact to keep in mind is that the lg g7 has usb c 3.1 and lg v40 has usb c 2.0 compatible with 3.1, but that of v40 is NOT 3.1. a greeting
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last V was V20, V30 hasn't too.
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aalvico said:
last V was V20, V30 hasn't too.
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V30 supports HDMI out
kevin_23 said:
Only as an informative note, the V series of lg was characterized by continuing to have the slimport hdmi connectivity, the lg v30 has it, however the lg6 does not have it as if it had the lg g5. At the moment the 2 range tops of lg, that is, lg g7 and lg v40 no longer have hdmi connection by usb c, you can only get the image via miracast. Another fact to keep in mind is that the lg g7 has usb c 3.1 and lg v40 has usb c 2.0 compatible with 3.1, but that of v40 is NOT 3.1. a greeting
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So I use "screencast" with my V30 to my LG SmartTV. It works great. I am not sure I will ever need HDMI in this case.
However it seems odd that they would "revert" the USB spec from 3.1 to 2.0? I guess its not a huge deal but not sure why they would do that. I DO want to make sure the V40 would do OTG so I can connect it directly to my DAC audio device if I get this phone.
LameMonster82 said:
Maybe in the future. As far as I know it's disabled in the kernel. The kernel source seems to be broken for some reason. I'm getting a cable that can debug it and hopefully fix it. I only have the g7 but the kernel is almost the same for the v40.
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Was the cable able to fix the issue? Did it work?
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Was the cable able to fix the issue? Did it work?
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No but I was able to fix the kernel.
Mine LG V40 LM-V405UA does have the HDMI output and work very well surprisingly even the landscape & portrait mode switches quite fast .
Its great for watching movies and stuff . I just added a bluetooth keyboard and mouse because the adapter I have allows charging while watching or playing games on it and NOW I have a 43 inch Phone . Which is kinda cool
FYI the adapter i bought a long time ago for my HTC U12+ and it works for it as well |My adapter has HDMI Power and USB3.0 port but never did get the USB port to work on either phone so just added a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and good to go. I also added my Nvidia Shield Game controller(2017) version and that even works good. so I am all good .
Like I notice someone else say that annoying button you can NOT assign anything to it is a waste of a button.
here is the Item I bought back in February 2018 ( 3 in 1 Type C to 4K HD HDMI USB3.0 Hub USB-C Charging Adapter For Apple MacBook
( Ebay Item 302148165196 ) (seller-wowpartspro ) Link below ( choose HTC M10 that is the one I have and it works on the LG V40 ThinQ )
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-in-1-Typ...hash=item46596f1e4c:m:mVLjAV5TYXuAoNJ22A6bNmg
zxhwk said:
Mine LG V40 LM-V405UA does have the HDMI output and work very well surprisingly even the landscape & portrait mode switches quite fast .
Its great for watching movies and stuff . I just added a bluetooth keyboard and mouse because the adapter I have allows charging while watching or playing games on it and NOW I have a 43 inch Phone . Which is kinda cool
FYI the adapter i bought a long time ago for my HTC U12+ and it works for it as well |My adapter has HDMI Power and USB3.0 port but never did get the USB port to work on either phone so just added a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and good to go. I also added my Nvidia Shield Game controller(2017) version and that even works good. so I am all good .
Like I notice someone else say that annoying button you can NOT assign anything to it is a waste of a button.
here is the Item I bought back in February 2018 ( 3 in 1 Type C to 4K HD HDMI USB3.0 Hub USB-C Charging Adapter For Apple MacBook
( Ebay Item 302148165196 ) (seller-wowpartspro ) Link below ( choose HTC M10 that is the one I have and it works on the LG V40 ThinQ )
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-in-1-Typ...hash=item46596f1e4c:m:mVLjAV5TYXuAoNJ22A6bNmg
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Really the lg v40 has hdmi? I'm dreaming of joy
zxhwk said:
Mine LG V40 LM-V405UA does have the HDMI output and work very well surprisingly even the landscape & portrait mode switches quite fast .
Its great for watching movies and stuff . I just added a bluetooth keyboard and mouse because the adapter I have allows charging while watching or playing games on it and NOW I have a 43 inch Phone . Which is kinda cool
FYI the adapter i bought a long time ago for my HTC U12+ and it works for it as well |My adapter has HDMI Power and USB3.0 port but never did get the USB port to work on either phone so just added a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and good to go. I also added my Nvidia Shield Game controller(2017) version and that even works good. so I am all good .
Like I notice someone else say that annoying button you can NOT assign anything to it is a waste of a button.
here is the Item I bought back in February 2018 ( 3 in 1 Type C to 4K HD HDMI USB3.0 Hub USB-C Charging Adapter For Apple MacBook
( Ebay Item 302148165196 ) (seller-wowpartspro ) Link below ( choose HTC M10 that is the one I have and it works on the LG V40 ThinQ )
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-in-1-Typ...hash=item46596f1e4c:m:mVLjAV5TYXuAoNJ22A6bNmg
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Can you post a photo friend?
zxhwk said:
Mine LG V40 LM-V405UA does have the HDMI output and work very well surprisingly even the landscape & portrait mode switches quite fast .
Its great for watching movies and stuff . I just added a bluetooth keyboard and mouse because the adapter I have allows charging while watching or playing games on it and NOW I have a 43 inch Phone . Which is kinda cool
FYI the adapter i bought a long time ago for my HTC U12+ and it works for it as well |My adapter has HDMI Power and USB3.0 port but never did get the USB port to work on either phone so just added a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and good to go. I also added my Nvidia Shield Game controller(2017) version and that even works good. so I am all good .
Like I notice someone else say that annoying button you can NOT assign anything to it is a waste of a button.
here is the Item I bought back in February 2018 ( 3 in 1 Type C to 4K HD HDMI USB3.0 Hub USB-C Charging Adapter For Apple MacBook
( Ebay Item 302148165196 ) (seller-wowpartspro ) Link below ( choose HTC M10 that is the one I have and it works on the LG V40 ThinQ )
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-in-1-Typ...hash=item46596f1e4c:m:mVLjAV5TYXuAoNJ22A6bNmg
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it's a joke? I do not see evidence
LG V40ThinQ HDMI OUTPUT
kevin_23 said:
it's a joke? I do not see evidence
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Here are a few pictures I took this morning using the V40ThinQ on my 42 inch westing house tv.
This tv is NOT a smart tv so can not do miracast to it hardwire only.
If you look closely you can see the adapter i am using on it and it works well .
I even opened a couple apps I use like Cinema HD and Mobdro to watch movies and what ever channel i wanna watch all over the world.
I took these pictures with my HTC U12+
So -----kevin_23
Do NOT say things are a JOKE unless you have proof to back it up so my advice to you just keep your mouth SHUT unless you have something productive to say.
This is one of the reasons I quit helping on this forum years ago because of skeptic LOUD MOUTH people like |( kevin_23 |)
because they have NOTHING good to say to anyone.
Good BYE but here is your PROOF that this phone DOES indeed have Slimport/MHL/ HDMI output
This looks good man, thanks for the report on this.
zxhwk said:
Here are a few pictures I took this morning using the V40ThinQ on my 42 inch westing house tv.
This tv is NOT a smart tv so can not do miracast to it hardwire only.
If you look closely you can see the adapter i am using on it and it works well .
I even opened a couple apps I use like Cinema HD and Mobdro to watch movies and what ever channel i wanna watch all over the world.
I took these pictures with my HTC U12+
So -----kevin_23
Do NOT say things are a JOKE unless you have proof to back it up so my advice to you just keep your mouth SHUT unless you have something productive to say.
This is one of the reasons I quit helping on this forum years ago because of skeptic LOUD MOUTH people like |( kevin_23 |)
because they have NOTHING good to say to anyone.
Good BYE but here is your PROOF that this phone DOES indeed have Slimport/MHL/ HDMI output
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Does the phone screen needs to be on when connected to TV?
It doesn't seem to be working for me. Did you get the message that says it's not supported and you have to use Miracast?
zxhwk said:
Mine LG V40 LM-V405UA does have the HDMI output and work very well surprisingly even the landscape & portrait mode switches quite fast .
Its great for watching movies and stuff . I just added a bluetooth keyboard and mouse because the adapter I have allows charging while or playing games on it and NOW I have a 43 inch Phone . Which is kinda cool
FYI the adapter i bought a long time ago for my HTC U12+ and it works for it as well |My adapter has HDMI Power and USB3.0 port but never did get the USB port to work on either phone so just added a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and good to go. I also added my Nvidia Shield Game controller(2017) version and that even works good. so I am all good .
Like I notice someone else say that annoying button you can NOT assign anything to it is a waste of a button.
here is the Item I bought back in February 2018 ( 3 in 1 Type C to 4K HD HDMI USB3.0 Hub USB-C Charging Adapter For Apple MacBook
( Ebay Item 302148165196 ) (seller-wowpartspro ) Link below ( choose HTC M10 that is the one I have and it works on the LG V40 ThinQ )
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-in-1-Typ...hash=item46596f1e4c:m:mVLjAV5TYXuAoNJ22A6bNmg
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It doesn't seem to be working for me. Did you get the message that says it's not supported and you have to use Miracast and then somehow later it worked? Or did it work right away?
zxhwk said:
Here are a few pictures I took this morning using the V40ThinQ on my 42 inch westing house tv.
This tv is NOT a smart tv so can not do miracast to it hardwire only.
If you look closely you can see the adapter i am using on it and it works well .
I even opened a couple apps I use like Cinema HD and Mobdro to watch movies and what ever channel i wanna watch all over the world.
I took these pictures with my HTC U12+
So -----kevin_23
Do NOT say things are a JOKE unless you have proof to back it up so my advice to you just keep your mouth SHUT unless you have something productive to say.
This is one of the reasons I quit helping on this forum years ago because of skeptic LOUD MOUTH people like |( kevin_23 |)
because they have NOTHING good to say to anyone.
Good BYE but here is your PROOF that this phone DOES indeed have Slimport/MHL/ HDMI output
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Fake... Displaylink is not displayport
I did not do anything to the phone it self its all factory OS and NON root or bootloader unlocked.
I am using factory UI there is NO special software installed at all except my movie and tv show programs.
I have every App that is installed from factory still there but disabled if it can bee and also all data running in background for every app turned off as well .
It took a while to set every app data setting but its much more efficient on the battery mine lasts for a couple days with out recharge.
As for the phone display being on I have NOT found a setting anywhere that I could turn it off and the other question.
NO I HAVE NOT AT ANYTIME GOTTEN THE ERROR not supported THE TV I USED DOES NOT HAVE MIRACAST ITS JUST A 42 INCH WESTINGHOUSE TV I BOUGHT FROM MICRO CENTER A FEW MONTHS AGO ( ITS NOT A SMART TV )
I think maybe the error you might be getting might have something to do with the type of adapter you are trying to use ( just a thought ).
the adapter i am using does NOT have any markings on it of any kind to tell me what model # it might be . |BUT I did post to the person where I bought it from in an earlier posting.
Does this phone support audio/video output through the usb-c port? What about the 7 pogo pins? Thanks!
ThomasArboles said:
Does this phone support audio/video output through the usb-c port? What about the 7 pogo pins? Thanks!
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I would imagine that it does, however if it does not then it will almost certainly support displaylink tech which uses a dock as the driver for video out, audio works too but you may not be able to charge whilst using it.
I've used this on the Oneplus 5 which did not have video out of any kind.
Docks can be a little pricey but so long as it states "Displaylink" Technology then it should work.
You will also need the app to get it to work.
Latency is on par with video out.
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I would imagine that it does, however if it does not then it will almost certainly support displaylink tech which uses a dock as the driver for video out, audio works too but you may not be able to charge whilst using it.
I've used this on the Oneplus 5 which did not have video out of any kind.
Docks can be a little pricey but so long as it states "Displaylink" Technology then it should work.
You will also need the app to get it to work.
Latency is on par with video out.
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can you tell me what type of dock do you use in your oneplus 5? i'm interested
slowz2secret said:
can you tell me what type of dock do you use in your oneplus 5? i'm interested
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Targus 101
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Targus 101
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Hey thanks for the reply, i see in amazon a lot of targus docks but i do not find any targus 101, can you send me a link? sorry to bother you master, i really need something to stream from phone to computer, red magic 3 i think will works with displaylink
ThomasArboles said:
Does this phone support audio/video output through the usb-c port? What about the 7 pogo pins? Thanks!
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The ZTE Nubia Red Magic 3 is not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, at least for now, Nubia said that maybe they will add HDMI support in their next update but not sure... The only thing we can do is continue asking them to add HDMI support on their Red Magic facebook page
If they don't add it it's a shame for a gaming smartphone not to be compatible with HDMI adapters
See here for more https://help.redmagic.gg/hc/en-us/community/posts/360028406514-HDMI-Through-USB-C
booldega said:
The ZTE Nubia Red Magic 3 is not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, at least for now, Nubia said that maybe they will add HDMI support in their next update but not sure... The only thing we can do is continue asking them to add HDMI support on their Red Magic facebook page
If they don't add it it's a shame for a gaming smartphone not to be compatible with HDMI adapters
See here for more https://help.redmagic.gg/hc/en-us/community/posts/360028406514-HDMI-Through-USB-C
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If direct usb-c doesn't work then you could still use displayink
Same thing only it's more expensive, requires an app and it can't charge at the same time.
dladz said:
If direct usb-c doesn't work then you could still use displayink
Same thing only it's more expensive, requires an app and it can't charge at the same time.
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I think it also has more input lag than smartphones with direct usb-c support, just don't buy "flagship" smartphones without hdmi support they are not worth it, it should be a standard on high-end smartphones
booldega said:
I think it also has more input lag than smartphones with direct usb-c support, just don't buy "flagship" smartphones without hdmi support they are not worth it, it should be a standard on high-end smartphones
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That's not true at all..
I've got multiple videos on my channel proving that, theres also one in the OnePlus 5 forum too made by myself.
But I agree that Direct hdmi output food be standard
dladz said:
That's not true at all..
I've got multiple videos on my channel proving that, theres also one in the OnePlus 5 forum too made by myself.
But I agree that Direct hdmi output food be standard
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OnePlus 7 has direct HDMI output, it's way more easier and more possibilities than displaylink trick with OnePlus 5 or other "high-end" smartphones not compatible with HDMI
booldega said:
OnePlus 7 has direct HDMI output, it's way more easier and more possibilities than displaylink trick with OnePlus 5 or other "high-end" smartphones not compatible with HDMI
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It allows charging . That's it and doesn't require an app?? Lol that is it pal..
I wasn't comparing them I was saying it's a possible solution if it didn't support it.
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It allows charging . That's it and doesn't require an app?? Lol that is it pal..
I wasn't comparing them I was saying it's a possible solution if it didn't support it.
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I agree it's still a better solution than wireless display solutions like chromecast or miracast or other slow and high input lag wireless display stuff for uncompatible smartphones, but I also have seen that DisplayLink consumes way more battery than direct HDMI
And displaylink adapters are also more expensive, but again still better than wireless connection :good:
What a failure phone. A pubg streamer bought this garbage and he is not able to connect it to elgato capture card. All of these chinese phones are GARBAGE just stay away from them if you want hdmi.
look at this shıt : https://dlive.tv/MEZARCI
Hello, can someone try a usb-c to HDMI adapter with the Oppo Reno please ?
Oppo has added USB-C to HDMI support on Oppo R17 Pro and RX17 Pro with ColorOS 5.2 so it should work with Oppo Reno but still no proof
https://www.facebook.com/opposingapore/videos/coloros-52-screen-streaming/345614832677862/
Oppo Reno 10X works with USB-C to HDMI adapters (link below) so it should work also with Oppo Reno, can someone confirm ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
booldega said:
Oppo Reno 10X works with USB-C to HDMI adapters (link below) so it should work also with Oppo Reno, can someone confirm ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
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I have mine coming later today and I have a USBC to HDMI adapter so will give it a go.
sheppy1 said:
I have mine coming later today and I have a USBC to HDMI adapter so will give it a go.
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@sheppy1 Great ! Did you receive your Oppo Reno ?
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@sheppy1 Great ! Did you receive your Oppo Reno ?
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I did! But I have bad news... It doesn't do anything when connected to the TV via a USB-C to HDMI adapter.
I did some searching for you and it seems that in order for it to work, the device needs to have MHL hardware support which the Reno does not.
A full list of devices with MHL support can be found here:
http://www.mhltech.org/devices.aspx
sheppy1 said:
I did! But I have bad news... It doesn't do anything when connected to the TV via a USB-C to HDMI adapter.
I did some searching for you and it seems that in order for it to work, the device needs to have MHL hardware support which the Reno does not.
A full list of devices with MHL support can be found here: http://www.mhltech.org/devices.aspx
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Thank you for trying ! Which adapter did you use ? Isn't it faulty ? Does it work with another smartphone, tablet or laptop ?
MHL is dead because it use micro USB, not USB-C, the last device with MHL was Galaxy Note 4, now it's video out over USB-C, it's already integrated in Snapdragon SOCs but the smartphone need to have USB 3.0 not 2.0 and software support need to be added from the smartphone maker.
It's weird that it's not working on Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 because it works on Oppo RX17 Pro with same Snapdragon 710 https://www.facebook.com/opposingapore/videos/coloros-52-screen-streaming/345614832677862/ , also on Oppo Reno 10x Zoom with Snapdragon 855 https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
booldega said:
Thank you for trying ! Which adapter did you use ? Isn't it faulty ? Does it work with another smartphone, tablet or laptop ?
MHL is dead because it use micro USB, not USB-C, the last device with MHL was Galaxy Note 4, now it's video out over USB-C, it's already integrated in Snapdragon SOCs but the smartphone need to have USB 3.0 not 2.0 and software support need to be added from the smartphone maker.
It's weird that it's not working on Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 because it works on Oppo RX17 Pro with same Snapdragon 710 https://www.facebook.com/opposingapore/videos/coloros-52-screen-streaming/345614832677862/ , also on Oppo Reno 10x Zoom with Snapdragon 855 https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
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You clearly know more than I do on the topic! Ha. Nope, it's not faulty as I use it with my HP Spectre laptop and it works fine.
The adapter I'm using is this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07DCQY25Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So not like it's some cheapo one.
Am I supposed to initiate the screen share within the phones OS do you know? I simply plugged it in like I do my laptop and nothing happened on either the phone or TV
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You clearly know more than I do on the topic! Ha. Nope, it's not faulty as I use it with my HP Spectre laptop and it works fine.
The adapter I'm using is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07DCQY25Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So not like it's some cheapo one. Am I supposed to initiate the screen share within the phones OS do you know? I simply plugged it in like I do my laptop and nothing happened on either the phone or TV
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I looked the customer reviews of your USB-C Hub on the amazon link and some people tried it with their smartphone (like the Mate 20 Pro) and it's working so it should work with all Android smartphones with USB-C to HDMI support. I don't understand why Oppo RX17 Pro with Snapdragon 710 and Android 8 is compatible with HDMI but Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 and Android 9 is not compatible. On many Android phones you simply have to plug it in and it mirrors on the TV instantly so it should be the same on Oppo, but if there is an option it should be called "Screen Streaming" on Oppo, can you see an option to activate this or any other "external display or mirroring" option maybe in the display settings ? I doubt about it but who knows ?
booldega said:
I looked the customer reviews of your USB-C Hub on the amazon link and some people tried it with their smartphone (like the Mate 20 Pro) and it's working so it should work with all Android smartphones with USB-C to HDMI support. I don't understand why Oppo RX17 Pro with Snapdragon 710 and Android 8 is compatible with HDMI but Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 and Android 9 is not compatible. On many Android phones you simply have to plug it in and it mirrors on the TV instantly so it should be the same on Oppo, but if there is an option it should be called "Screen Streaming" on Oppo, can you see an option to activate this or any other "external display or mirroring" option maybe in the display settings ? I doubt about it but who knows ?
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Yeah it's an odd one I'll give you that! And all the screen share options in the settings relate to wireless sharing and not wired.
I even tried my wife's Pixel 2 and while I can't work out how to get it to share the screen via the USB C to HDMI adapter, the TV does recognise it when I plug it in... Which isn't the case when I plug the Reno in.
Sooooo... Seems it's not supported in afraid
sheppy1 said:
Yeah it's an odd one I'll give you that! And all the screen share options in the settings relate to wireless sharing and not wired.
I even tried my wife's Pixel 2 and while I can't work out how to get it to share the screen via the USB C to HDMI adapter, the TV does recognise it when I plug it in... Which isn't the case when I plug the Reno in. Sooooo... Seems it's not supported in afraid
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So there is a screen streaming option in the settings but only wireless settings ? It seems like Oppo didn't add USB-C to HDMI support or maybe it only has USB 2.0 unlike Oppo RX17 Pro and Oppo Reno 10x zoom, but USB version is'nt written anywhere even on the official Oppo Reno website page https://www.oppo.com/en/smartphone-reno/specs I will ask on Oppo's Facebook page and post here as they answer. The Pixel smartphones are nearly the only high-end Snapdragon 8xx smartphones with USB 3.0 that are not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, Google disabled it on purpose because they want you to buy chromecast but they are wireless and so huge input lag in comparison to wired HDMI adapter and chromecast are even not usefull anymore on smart TVs because they already have built-in wireless smartphone screen streaming. Again, thank you for trying it @sheppy1 ! :good:
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So there is a screen streaming option in the settings but only wireless settings ? It seems like Oppo didn't add USB-C to HDMI support or maybe it only has USB 2.0 unlike Oppo RX17 Pro and Oppo Reno 10x zoom, but USB version is'nt written anywhere even on the official Oppo Reno website page https://www.oppo.com/en/smartphone-reno/specs I will ask on Oppo's Facebook page and post here as they answer. The Pixel smartphones are nearly the only high-end Snapdragon 8xx smartphones that are not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, Google disabled it on purpose because they want you to buy chromecast but they are wireless and so huge input lag in comparison to wired HDMI adapter and chromecast are even not usefull anymore on smart TVs because they already have built-in wireless smartphone screen streaming. Again, thank you for trying it @sheppy1 ! :good:
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Yeah that's correct, here's what I see (screenshot attached).
DLNA and Multi Screen Interaction both onot allow wireless connectivity to supported TVs
Ah! That sounds right hence the TV detected the Pixel but didn't allow for anything to be streamed to it.
Let me know how you get on with your query to OPPO anyway and if you need anything else from me.
And you're welcome :laugh:
I tried it with the Reno 10x zoom. It works but doesn't support Netflix or some other apps. Looks geest works great except Netflix what really sucks. I tried everythimg there is to trie but cant het Netflix to work.
By the way, yes, it is a very real and weird coincidence that my previous updates were always on the 11th of a month as well.
Update 3 (September 11, 2022):
I used the CalDigit SOHO Dock for a real purpose for the first time. I used its HDMI port to hook up to my 4K LG TV, and I wanted to charge the tablet at the same time as I knew it would be drawing a lot of power.
I used the USB-C cable that was included (~1 foot) with the CalDigit SOHO Dock to go from the Dock's output USB-C port to the tablet.
I tried both the 6-foot Anker Powerline+ II and the 3.3-foot JSAUX cables to go from the Anker 736 100W charger to the CalDigit SOHO Dock's USB-C charge port.
I had a 6-foot HDMI cable going to the TV (I also tested it with a 10-foot HDMI cable just to see, and it also worked fine).
The HDMI display worked fine, other than that the TV cut off the very top and bottom of the image, but it didn't cause many problems, especially with the tablet in Samsung DEX mode. In non-DEX mode, I couldn't see the status bar at all, although using my Bluetooth mouse, I was still able to pull the notification shade down just fine without seeing the top.
However, I had a problem with the charging. The tablet was still losing power faster than it was charging, although it definitely was charging some. I played musical chairs with the USB-C cables and found that the short USB-C cable that CalDigit included, which I believe I had read from their website should handle the dock's maximum of 100W, was the culprit. I know the tablet can only charge at a maximum of 45W, and I know that you can only achieve 45W charging if you're using Samsung's own charger that you have to buy separately, but eliminating CalDigit's USB-C cable out of the equation solved the charging problem. Note that I had hardly touched the Dock since I bought it, except for some basic tests just to make sure it worked, so I doubt if their included cable became damaged - and it was still working for HDMI delivery, just not for a high-enough wattage charging at the same time.
I'm currently using the 3.3-foot JSAUX cable from the dock to the tablet, and the 6-foot Anker between the Anker charger and the dock.
Update 2 (May 11, 2022): Ordered the following:
2x Anker Powerline+ II USB C Cable, USB C to USB C (6ft, 60W) USB-IF Certified Cable, Type C Charging Cable, Fast Charge for MacBook Air, iPad Pro, iPad Air 4, Galaxy, Pixel, and More(Red)
Update 1 (April 11, 2022): Ordered the following:
CalDigit USB-C Gen2 10Gb/s SOHO Dock - Up to 4K 60Hz, HDMI 2.0b, HDR, DisplayPort 1.4, 10Gb/s USB A & USB C, UHS-II microSD and SD Card Readers, Bus Power and Passthrough Charging Support
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JSAUX USB C to USB C 3.1 Gen 2 10Gbps 100W Cable [3.3ft/1M], [email protected] Monitor Video Cable Thunderbolt 3 Compatible with MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixel and More Type-C Devices-Blue
For USB ports, the dock only has one USB-A port (and one USB-C port available when charging), but I think most of the time this will be enough. Note that the dock manufacturer's site has video and charging firmware updates (from a year ago). I did update my dock to the latest firmware when I received it. As of September 11, 2022, v1.2.7 from December 2021 is still the most recent.
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I intend this thread for anyone to share their experiences with various USB-C hubs they try with their Tab S8 variants, or even what others are looking for in a hub. I'll be getting a Tab 8 Ultra, but it's estimated it'll be another month and a half (~ April 15th) before I receive my pre-order.
Myself, I'm looking for some hopefully not compromised but not break the bank USB-C hub. If a hub had all the features I list below, I'd consider paying more for one.
Features I've been researching for:
A removable Power Delivery (PD - I believe 3.0 is the latest) USB-C cable, preferably higher power for other or future devices, but 45W minimum. I don't like hubs that have a built-in cable. In one way they're convenient, but a) they're short, and 2) if something happens to that cable, you might as well toss that whole device unless you want to start electrically and mechanically modding it. If I find a hub that matches all my other "wants" below, then an attached cable might not be a deal killer, as long as it's a rugged type, and preferably longer but even without being longer or rugged, I'd consider it as a last resort.
Has at least 1x USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 port (10 Gb/s).
Has at least 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 data port or faster. So the device would have the cable going to the Tab 8, a Power Delivery cable powering both the hub and Tab 8, and yet another place for a USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 or faster data connection.
A gigabit ethernet port.
At least one HDMI port.
A MicroSD port - I know the Tab 8 Ultra already has a MicroSD port, and I'll likely keep a card in it, but I still want to be able to access another one natively (not through an additional USB adapter connected to the hub).
It would be nice to have a DisplayPort as well, but I'd consider a hub without one.
A 3.5mm audio port would also be nice. Not necessarily a deal-killer without one, but in lieu of one, I'd require at least one additional USB-C port of any type specifically for using USB-C headphones, although I'm willing to test my USB-A ->USB-C adapter, which works fine with my USB-C headphones on my desktop PC.
I'd prefer either at least a well-known brand (like Anker), or if not well known, then I'd prefer to buy either at a local brick and mortar store like Micro Center, Best Buy, OfficeMax, or even Walmart if I must, or at Amazon.com for easy returns if there's an issue early on.
We'll see if I've forgotten something in this list.
You can safely assume I've already done a lot of looking already, but certainly not uber-exhausted every option.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B08NDGD2V5 is the one I've been considering. I think it checks all your boxes. I have a smaller Anker USB-C dock, but it has no ethernet and I've been thinking of upgrading.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B08NDGD2V5 is the one I've been considering. I think it checks all your boxes. I have a smaller Anker USB-C dock, but it has no ethernet and I've been thinking of upgrading.
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From what I can tell, that one is limited to USB 3.0 (5 GB/s). If it had USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gb/s) I wouldn't hesitate even though it's got the attached cable - at least the cable is ruggedized.
I don't see it on Anker's site so I think it's an old model - might be from before 3.2 Gen 2 was available. They have a model 341 which is much cheaper although doesn't have an ethernet port, and at the same price as that 11-in-1, you can get a newer model that has the 10 Gb/s ports, although no DisplayPort - only HDMI.
It looks to me that the only Anker hubs and docking stations that support at least 10 Gb/s are their model #s in order of the most expensive at the top to lease expensive at the bottom, with the bolded one being the best compromise that I've found so far:
Docking stations - I think the distinguishing feature to separate them from Anker's hubs is that they aren't USB-C powered (I'll add that to my list). That said, I'm not clear if any of them can be alternatively USB-C powered, or at least do so with a limited set of capabilities.
777 (12-in-1) - sold out on Anker's site, available elsewhere but at fairly crazy prices.
575 and 577 (both 13-in-1) - in stock, but although cheaper than the crazy prices for the 777, still fairly crazy.
Hubs:
655 (8-in-1) - Definitely slightly ruggedized built-in cable, in addition to that cable's convenient L-shape, plus an easy place to plug it into to stash when not plugged into a device. Fits most of the bills except only has one USB-C port, which would be in use for powering it and charging your device. Maybe it's possible to at least use some of the features of the device without powering it separately, but I want to be able to power it/charge my Tab 8 and use a data USB-C port at the same time. Definitely a compromise contender. I wish it had one more USB-C port I could dedicate to data or USB-C headphones while still powered/charging.
555 (also 8-in-1) - built-in cable not ruggedized, so to me, not worth the lesser price. I've used non-ruggedized Anker cables before, and I don't recommend them for something that's going to be plugged and unplugged repeatedly, although I do highly recommend Anker in general - especially their ruggedized stuff.
There is also another "old" Anker PowerExpand 6-in-1 with ruggedized cable, but has the two special caveats of not have a MicroSD slot (only full-size, so would always need an adapter), and no ethernet port.
The Anker 655 and 555 are the only ones with a USB 3.2, though you're unlikely to have any accessories that take advantage of that.
Anker 655 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Ethernet-microSD-Charcoal/dp/B09MF6TJLW
Vs the one I linked above, on the 655 you lose out on displayport, only get 2 USB-A instead of 3, and no USB-C at all other than the power delivery input. Maybe they'll make a refreshed version of the 11 in 1 with USB 3.2 at some point.
Pluggable makes a great one that has everything you want including a 3.2 A and 3.2 C port - https://plugable.com/products/tbt3-udz . . . . . . but it's $339!
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The Anker 655 and 555 are the only ones with a USB 3.2, though you're unlikely to have any accessories that take advantage of that.
Anker 655 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Ethernet-microSD-Charcoal/dp/B09MF6TJLW
Vs the one I linked above, on the 655 you lose out on displayport, only get 2 USB-A instead of 3, and no USB-C at all other than the power delivery input. Maybe they'll make a refreshed version of the 11 in 1 with USB 3.2 at some point.
Pluggable makes a great one that has everything you want including a 3.2 A and 3.2 C port - https://plugable.com/products/tbt3-udz . . . . . . but it's $339!
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Yeah, that Pluggable's price definitely is in my "scary expensive" range. It looks like it does require an AC/DC power brick, though, so it's not powered by USB-C either.
I'm definitely coming across some interesting hubs - some even with both detachable & rugged included USB-C cables, but then they don't support any higher than 5 GB/s and/or some other things. I know I expect too much, but I keep hoping to at least find something with all but one of my preferences. LOL!
To think outside the box for a minute, I'm pretty sure I could use two PD hubs, one connected through the other, to get most if not all the features I'm looking for, but I doubt if I'm ready to go down that road of variables.
After bunches more research, I'm leaning heavily towards the Anker 655, at least until/if I need something even better, or something to augment the solution if I really need more ports later on. Let us know if you proceed to get any, and what you think of it.
Out of curiosity, what USB thingee are you plugging in that needs > 5gbit / USB 3.0 speed?
Edit - I honestly like the Anker 555 over the 655. You lose the 3.5mm audio jack, but gain a USB-C for $20 less. Not sure if USB 3.1 gen 2 vs 3.2 makes a difference to you. They're both 10gbit.
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Out of curiosity, what USB thingee are you plugging in that needs > 5gbit / USB 3.0 speed?
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Some of my faster USB-A flash drives, and if I can find an extra USB-C port solution (or use an adapter for USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 -> USB-C 3.2 Gen 2) I'd also like to be able to plug my Pixel 6 Pro into the tablet - if one will see the other properly and be able to access its storage fine.
Another possibility I've been considering is a USB-C monitor. If there's ever a time it would be handy to have an external even larger than the 14.6-inch monitor, it might be most efficient to get one that is both powered by and data connected solely via one USB-C connection. No idea if they make PD USB-C monitors - I'm pretty sure they have USB-C monitors with an extra USB port or two on them. Overkill for just a hub, but would be handy if I really needed an extra monitor.
I do have a cheap USB 3.1 Gen 2 (technically the same as 3.2 Gen 2) male USB-A -> female USB-C adapter. It works great for my USB-C headphones, but I haven't tested its data speed capabilities yet. I doubt, though, if such an adapter would work for a USB-C monitor. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if a USB-C monitor wouldn't work through any hub or docking station that wasn't made with that use specifically in mind.
Pixel 6 Pro's USB port is only USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1
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Pixel 6 Pro's USB port is only USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1
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Ah yes, thank you. I think I had read that but forgot. Is there any official source for that information (a link)?
Disregard, found the answer on my own previous thread LOL! https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...en-2-on-the-pixel-6-pro.4350777/post-85815357
@skrowl this is an interesting one, although still doesn't have an extra USB-C port nor a ruggedized cable, but check it out.
Dell USB-C Mobile Adapter – DA310
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Dell DA310 USB-C Mobile Adapter - Shop the widest 7-in-1 ports which offers video, network, data connectivity & upto 90W power pass-through for your laptop.
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What makes any of you think that there's anything in the S8 Ultra pipeline that could possibly come close to testing the limits of USB 3.2 Gen. 1? I think Gen. 2 is totally irrelevant.
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What makes any of you think that there's anything in the S8 Ultra pipeline that could possibly come close to testing the limits of USB 3.2 Gen. 1? I think Gen. 2 is totally irrelevant.
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Although I am motivated to buy a hub as a result of my pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra, even if its USB-C port is also limited to 3.1/3.2 Gen 1, I would still prefer a 3.2 Gen 2 hub as there may be other devices in the next five years which would employ 3.2 Gen 2 or faster, that I would also want to use the hub with.
I don't plan on buying another hub for at least five years unless there is a very strong reason to - such as USB 4.0's fastest generations and Thunderbolt 4+ compatibility - if I manage to obtain any combination of devices and accessories that will support the same fast speed.
I can even do speed tests and comparisons if I get a Gen 2 hub, as I have a non-PD/non-charging much simpler USB-C 3.0 hub that I got for free several years ago. For all intents and purposes, USB 3.0 is the same as 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1, and all three are rated at 5 Mb/s. There are so many factors that can affect speed, I'll certainly be curious what the result is, but as I said, even if a Gen 2 hub won't be faster with my current devices' bandwidth limits, that may change.
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Although I am motivated to buy a hub as a result of my pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra, even if its USB-C port is also limited to 3.1/3.2 Gen 1, I would still prefer a 3.2 Gen 2 hub as there may be other devices in the next five years which would employ 3.2 Gen 2 or faster, that I would also want to use the hub with.
I don't plan on buying another hub for at least five years unless there is a very strong reason to - such as USB 4.0's fastest generations and Thunderbolt 4+ compatibility - if I manage to obtain any combination of devices and accessories that will support the same fast speed.
I can even do speed tests and comparisons if I get a Gen 2 hub, as I have a non-PD/non-charging much simpler USB-C 3.0 hub that I got for free several years ago. For all intents and purposes, USB 3.0 is the same as 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1, and all three are rated at 5 Mb/s. There are so many factors that can affect speed, I'll certainly be curious what the result is, but as I said, even if a Gen 2 hub won't be faster with my current devices' bandwidth limits, that may change.
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Much agree with your forward-looking analysis, and only meant to clarify that the speed advantage isn't relevant to mobile phones at this time. Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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Much agree with your forward-looking analysis, and only meant to clarify that the speed advantage isn't relevant to mobile phones at this time. Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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Yeah, the USB 4 naming structure, even worse than 3.x, is frustrating.
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Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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USB 3.1 Gen 1 is basically the EXACT same as USB 3.0, but it sounds much cooler from a marketing perspective!
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USB 3.1 Gen 1 is basically the EXACT same as USB 3.0, but it sounds much cooler from a marketing perspective!
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And here's the irony: your correction is actually out of date. USB 3.1 Gen. 1 doesn't exist anymore. Now it's USB 3.2 Gen. 1.
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And here's the irony: your correction is actually out of date. USB 3.1 Gen. 1 doesn't exist anymore. Now it's USB 3.2 Gen. 1.
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Not entirely correct. Out of date, yes, as the current spec is USB4, but....
USB 3.1 was indeed absorbed into 3.2; whereas 3.1 had two variants, Gen1 and Gen2, 3.2 has three - Gen 1 for 5Gbps, Gen 2 for 10Gbps, and Gen 2x2 for 20Gbps. Thunderbolt is mechanically and electrically compatible with USB type C, and is compatible with USB 3.1/3.2, but supports 40Gbps.
There's a lot of 1.x and 2.0 devices still in use, and contemporary hardware is still being sold with Type A connectors alongside Type C/Thunderbolt connectors....
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Not entirely correct. Out of date, yes, as the current spec is USB4, but....
USB 3.1 was indeed absorbed into 3.2; whereas 3.1 had two variants, Gen1 and Gen2, 3.2 has three - Gen 1 for 5Gbps, Gen 2 for 10Gbps, and Gen 2x2 for 20Gbps.
There's a lot of 1.x and 2.0 devices still in use, and contemporary hardware is still being sold with Type A connectors alongside Type C/Thunderbolt connectors....
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Disagree, but it's all fruitless/irrelevant as we agree. If not just by mere logical deduction, since USB 3.2 Gen. 1 is exactly the same as USB 3.1 Gen. 1 and USB 3.0 Gen. 1 as previously (hilariously) branded, then the last incarnation of the same tech is the final branding for that generation. USB 4.0 didn't "deprecate" 3.2, it's just the better (and currently almost non-existent) option.
I ordered the Anker 555 for my Tab s8. I know it might not meet all your requirements but I bought it because of the 4k 60hz hdmi output.
This Pluggable Dock just popped up on Amazon. It's expensive, but $100 off for launch discount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NQQ1G1N