I came across more than a couple of videos where durability of Note 10 Pro and Pro Max is very poor, it failed in many tests. More importantly miserable in bend test. I am really in dilemma for how long the device can survice.
Any thoughts?
ZainBilq said:
I came across more than a couple of videos where durability of Note 10 Pro and Pro Max is very poor, it failed in many tests. More importantly miserable in bend test. I am really in dilemma for how long the device can survice.
Any thoughts?
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What are you doing with the device? Throwing it away or let it fall? Why do you want to bend it? Buy a good case and nevermind!
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What are you doing with the device? Throwing it away or let it fall? Why do you want to bend it? Buy a good case and nevermind!
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That I do anyways and thanks for your suggesion, but do note that quality of the meterials used and durability matter a lot. I have never seen this fragile device before from Xiaomi.
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That I do anyways and thanks for your suggesion, but do note that quality of the meterials used and durability matter a lot. I have never seen this fragile device before from Xiaomi.
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It's not "durability" test, it is more properly called "can-it-withstand-abuse" test.
And remember, it's a midranger phone, Xiaomi cut some corners. Expect more durable phone? Buy a better one. Case close. Always treat your phone carefully, buy a case, get a phone insurance if there any, etc.
ZainBilq said:
I came across more than a couple of videos where durability of Note 10 Pro and Pro Max is very poor, it failed in many tests. More importantly miserable in bend test. I am really in dilemma for how long the device can survice.
Any thoughts?
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You were fooled by the bend test by that youtuber. The bend test was done after the fall test. Once the phone has cracks it is easier to break. Don't trust that channel unless they redo all their tests in only one format and bend test first before fall test. Even jerry rig doesnt even do fall test.
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You were fooled by the bend test by that youtuber. The bend test was done after the fall test. Once the phone has cracks it is easier to break. Don't trust that channel unless they redo all their tests in only one format and bend test first before fall test. Even jerry rig doesnt even do fall test.
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Oh..maybe true to some extent...
seijicastell said:
You were fooled by the bend test by that youtuber. The bend test was done after the fall test. Once the phone has cracks it is easier to break. Don't trust that channel unless they redo all their tests in only one format and bend test first before fall test. Even jerry rig doesnt even do fall test.
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This! That's why I'm telling people that test isn't good but they don't listen to me. Only Zack can do it right.
I usually watch every jerryrig's videos but only for "educationnal" purpose.
Redmi Note 10 PRO is a very nice phone for it price. Xiaomi maybe cut some corners, but as some ppl said earlier, you use your phone with a case, and never bend test your phone..
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I usually watch every jerryrig's videos but only for "educationnal" purpose.
Redmi Note 10 PRO is a very nice phone for it price. Xiaomi maybe cut some corners, but as some ppl said earlier, you use your phone with a case, and never bend test your phone..
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Thanks for letting your opinion know. Note that even I watch those videos and it doesn't mean we do such things with our devices; no one if it's hard-earned money. It only gives idea as how careful you should be with the device.
These kind of tests can be useful and a win-win situation for us the consumers, not the manufacturers.
The bend test can be useful. I'm sure people or their friends might accidently sit on their phone when you leave it on the couch/car seat and probably roll on it when you fall asleep while using it on the bed.
This phone comes with really good specs for the price, so just be mindful of it's fragility if you decide to purchase and use it. And not everyone is fond of bulky cases to protect the phone.
Btw, to those who said bend test should be done first on the Gupta vid, here's another vid with bend test first. It shows the plastic frame is much weaker than other plastic frame phones.
Ya plastic frame with glass is prone to bends (especially in Xiaomi phones). But other glass phones from manufacturers like Realme are more "bend test - durable". Also fully plastic made phones are much much durable.
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These kind of tests can be useful and a win-win situation for us the consumers, not the manufacturers.
The bend test can be useful. I'm sure people or their friends might accidently sit on their phone when you leave it on the couch/car seat and probably roll on it when you fall asleep while using it on the bed.
This phone comes with really good specs for the price, so just be mindful of it's fragility if you decide to purchase and use it. And not everyone is fond of bulky cases to protect the phone.
Btw, to those who said bend test should be done first on the Gupta vid, here's another vid with bend test first. It shows the plastic frame is much weaker than other plastic frame phones.
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I agree with you.
Just buy a better case. That's what I plan to do with my Redmi Note 10 Pro
Spigen Note 10 Pro cases are showing up https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series
https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series/products/xiaomi-redmi-note-10-pro-case-tough-armor?variant=39273192554543
https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series/products/xiaomi-redmi-note-10-pro-case-rugged-armor?variant=39273194487855
https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series/products/xiaomi-redmi-note-10-pro-case-ultra-hybrid?variant=39273208578095
Why does anyone want to bend-test a phone is beyond me. Most of these "bend-testers" do it to rake up more views for themselves in YouTube or other social media and make more money. I mean, just look at that bend test thumbnail picture in the youtube link above. It's a clickbait trap even laymen would want to click on.
As a consumer, why do you want to bend and abuse your phone, that you paid money for? In this world, you can break anything, if you want. Even metal or rocks. That's right - you DON'T want to break anything, especially something that you paid for.
Don't put in your back pocket and sit. Or remove the phone from the back pocket before sitting, if you have the habit of slotting your phone there.
Give respect for what you have bought. Get a good thin but durable case protection. Get a good screen protector. These will greatly help the resell value too.
So treat all of your phones (even humble and cheaper ones) gently and nice. They will last longer and be with you longer.
you're afraid of your phone breaking during bend as if you're BENDING your phone daily
He did the bend test AFTER the fall test ... It's insane ! Who is crazy enough to do that ?
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He did the bend test AFTER the fall test ... It's insane ! Who is crazy enough to do that ?
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He does those things with almost all popular brand mobiles. Btw there is another guy who did bend test immediately after unboxing and it failed. Just to inform you.
There is another one who did a fall test and the phone survived some risky falls ... The point is, these are phones not hammers, if i buy a super amoled with a huge camera i have to take care of it .. my friend bought a samsung note 10 when released, and it fell at work, the screen went dark and he had to replace it for almost the rn10p price
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There is another one who did a fall test and the phone survived some risky falls ... The point is, these are phones not hammers, if i buy a super amoled with a huge camera i have to take care of it .. my friend bought a samsung note 10 when released, and it fell at work, the screen went dark and he had to replace it for almost the rn10p price
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Firstly this is Not to spread negativity or anything else.
Experiences do vary from persone to person and device to device...I regularly watch durability test videos, more so if I want to decide on buying a device...It 's just to get an idea as to how well or bad the device can survive in day-to-day scenarios or during any unfortunate situations like falls. Not all videos are fake or clickbaits I can say.
At the end, if something is exiciting like specs, features, price, some people would overlook fragility or don't care about durability.
Thanks & Cheers!
Those youtubers will lead you to not buying anything guys !
Are you buying smartphone or gum ? to do what ever you want !?
look after your device and it will live longer
stop these sh^ts reviews and videos
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkb5Qe_-0k0
Thought I'd share this video with you guys, this is mostly for those who want to keep their phones without any case so they may be able to take the proper precautions.
And for those who don't want to watch the whole video, skip towards 3/4 of the video and you will see the Nexus 5 screen break down after just one drop on it's screen, it was still functional but it was badly damage so this is more so you all may be careful and see what could happen if you phone falls just once on its screen at chest level.
hate too see this kind of test, obviusly if I drop the phone it will be somehow damaged, even if I drop my worst enemy head will be damaged.. just wasting of time and money
That was PAINFUL to watch, i cringed :crying: , wow i was very very surprised how bad it did, whole sections of the screen dettached themselves from the phone, I seriously thought gorilla glass was stronger
pretty brutal
prob grabbing a case just because of the camera protrusion however this helps reinforce that decision
stremax said:
hate too see this kind of test, obviusly if I drop the phone it will be somehow damaged, even if I drop my worst enemy head will be damaged.. just wasting of time and money
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this guy gets sent free phones to do these tests
Good video, but I can't stand cases.
Takes a cool looking phone and makes them look like bricks out of the 1980s.
No thanks. Keep your phones cool, don't be scared.
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That was PAINFUL to watch, i cringed :crying: , wow i was very very surprised how bad it did, pieces from the screen went even missing , i seriously thought gorilla glass was stronger
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Gorilla Glass is just that - glass. It doesn't take side damage or flat landing good at all. The way Apple, Samsung & co are trying to protect the glass from drop damage is using an extra rim around the front panel, something that is missing from the Nexus 5, so no surprises that the screen cracked. What surprised me is the rigid plastic that shattered way too easy, it's something really cheap sorry to say.
The N5 is a lot more fragile than the N4. The phone isn't as rugged, though.
The N5 has no aluminum rim bezel as the N4. My N4 has fell from about the same height and only the bezel got dented. It is that rugged.
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Gorilla Glass is just that - glass. It doesn't take side damage or flat landing good at all. The way Apple, Samsung & co are trying to protect the glass from drop damage is using an extra rim around the front panel, something that is missing from the Nexus 5, so no surprises that the screen cracked. What surprised me is the rigid plastic that shattered way too easy, it's something really cheap sorry to say.
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One of the advertising points for the N5, Moto X, and I believe G2 is the side-to-side glass. The extra rim isn't missing; it is intentionally left off. I love that combined with Pie controls.
But yes, the Gorilla Glass is just glass. I agree with your point here. It is supposed to be scratch resistant, not drop-proof diamond material. People always seem amazed by these videos when the glass breaks. Guys, it is glass, it breaks when you drop it. It doesn't matter if it's a phone, a computer, a TV, or even a watch. Glass breaks when it hits something hard at a decent speed. Nothing surprising there.
I never understood the purpose of these drops tests. Wouldn't you have to drop hundreds if not thousands to arrive at a conclusion? There are tons of people who post that their screen broke on a drop but someone would come on and say they dropped there's and only got a dent.
When they do crash ratings on cars, they do very specific tests at pre-determined angles of impact, etc...
These drop videos are some random dude that drops it and the phone lands at some random angle.
Remind me not to drop this thing! I miss the days when you could drop a phone and the worst thing that happened was the battery cover popping off...
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Remind me not to drop this thing! I miss the days when you could drop a phone and the worst thing that happened was the battery cover popping off...
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Yeah, they were like Legos. You drop the phone, it shoots one way, the battery case shoots another way, the battery itself shoots a third way. Although that was unintentional, it is interesting that they make phone cases like that now. I can't recall off the top of my head, but I remember one that was designed to break into multiple parts when it was dropped in order to minimize the impact on the phone itself. Interesting idea. Never owned one, though.
Ordering case now
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I'm usually very anti case, but the red one in the Play Store looks rad so I'll probably swoop on one of those
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I can't wait til sapphire is the standard on phone screens. I would easily pay extra for a screen made with it.
I agree with you are all saying, sure is just glass and it is likely to break when dropped I mean we all know that is obvious but I decided to post this as a fair warning to every owner cause I have a Samsung S1 aka Captivate and have accidentally dropped it on the screen and not even a scratch, so yeah I know it depends on the build and materials so figured people should be more careful with their N5s.
Is the back cover removable? On the drop test it seems like it is.
I'm asking because I've to choose from a real bumper and a bumper with a protection on the back.
domenicop said:
Is the back cover removable? On the drop test it seems like it is.
I'm asking because I've to choose from a real bumper and a bumper with a protection on the back.
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Easy to remove. Just drop your phone! But it probably could be removed, if you were so inclined. I can't imagine why you'd ever want to though. Because your warranty is likely toast if you do. And it may never go on correctly again. Just keep checking Youtube, a teardown video will be up soon enough they will see how hard it is to get off.
EDIT: Nevermind here is the video. Fairly easy to get off. But it is glued at the bottom so your results may vary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-jDvZtpEJ8
I guess it's a good thing I don't drop my phones. :good:
hello everybody,
I just purchased a GG yesterday, after reading a lot of your posts and thank you all for it. What convinced me was the new update that brings full notifications and better battery life. So far, I like it a lot, but of course 1 day is not enough.
There are 2 things I would like to ask other owners, who might have had it for longer time.
I read the post about the IP55 rating, but I would like to know if somebody really dropped it in water (most likely unintentionally), drop some water/liquid on it, got heavy rain, ecc. In other words, something more than washing hands or sweat.
Second point regards scratches. There are a lot of posts about this all over Internet, but very controversial. I would like to know if any of you had any scracth on the glass, the case or the buckle. If any of you experinced any serious bump, drops and so forth. I read somewhere that the GG has sapphire glass, but I seriously doubt it, as usually these glasses are very expensive and are used mostly on more expensive watches.
Thining logically, Samsung should have considered these issues, as after all, it is a watch and you want to wear it, so some kind of protection shluld be there. But I learnt that logic does not always work.
Any advice/experience you would like to share will be much appreciated!!!
Thank you very much,
Roger
I am using GEAR since end of OCT.
- water resistance - rain, drops of water is OK for the watch - if You search the forum you will even find the movie with the gear under kitchen tap water flowing on it. It is NOT ok for shower, swimming, diving etc. Generally - keep it away from water when possible. GEAR build quality is OK
If You wonder how SONY watch behaves - check their forum - a lot of complains and quality issues in general like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574988
- scratch resistance - Gear glass is NOT scratch resistant! it scratches very easy so keep it away from any hard objects, sand, metal, etc. Generally speaking- with the product life of maximum 1 year ( yes, we may expect GEAR II not later than September 2014) scratch resistance is not so important, and Samsung for sure will not use sapphire for the glass - it is too expensive.
I've had mine since day one and no problem with it whatsoever. I don't take it off when I wash my hands just careful not getting it wet.
Battery life is pretty strong as you go about two days. Don't have any scratches on it so far but I'm pretty careful when I'm around walls/tables/desks.
Ian B
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I've had mine since day one and no problem with it whatsoever. I don't take it off when I wash my hands just careful not getting it wet.
Battery life is pretty strong as you go about two days. Don't have any scratches on it so far but I'm pretty careful when I'm around walls/tables/desks.
Ian B
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Same here ^^^
I have washed my hands with mine on and have gotten water on it (even into the speaker area) no problems so far. Regarding scratched, I put on a skinomi shield (invisible shield type). Looks awesome! Super clear and can barely see it's on. I got the full body which has a cover for under the watch (not too sure why you would need it but I put on since it came with it). I should let you know that with the full body cover, the charger takes some work to get it to close but it's definitely close-able. Have fun with you new gear. I know I am.
Picked up a galaxy gear with carbon fiber skin protector from skinomi and it came with a screen protector too. Bought extra screen protectors off Amazon just in case. Everything running great and not worries about scratches anymore. Still very cautious around water though.
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Had mine for awhile as well. I don't worry about washing my hands or rain. Just wouldn't submerge it to be on the safer side. Scratches... The speaker clasp is pretty scratched up but I'm not too concerned about it. As for the face, I have hit/bumped/scraped on things such as desk, doors, walls, etc. So far it has held up well with no noticeable scratches. However I always worry every time I do bump it.
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I know this is a slightly callous thing to say, but suddenly watches have fallen into the bi-yearly replaceable category.
No longer are they finely hand crafted devices that merely tell you just the time (and sometimes the date), they are an extension of your phone. Generally my analogue time pieces would last me anywhere between 5-15 years. This is technology though and we all know it can become out of date very quickly. It's sad and I dislike this fact, but I know that in a year or two I will want to upgrade to keep up with the Jones'. Not just that, I guarantee the Note 6 won't support the original Gear.
We're stuck in the cycle now!
My gear has me essentially committed to samsung now. I usually switch out phones alot but no more. No nexus 5 for me I guess. I wish I didn't have to use some weird workaround to get it to work with another phone
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Skinomi Full Body Cover: Clasp Section Won't Adhere?
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I have washed my hands with mine on and have gotten water on it (even into the speaker area) no problems so far. Regarding scratched, I put on a skinomi shield (invisible shield type). Looks awesome! Super clear and can barely see it's on. I got the full body which has a cover for under the watch (not too sure why you would need it but I put on since it came with it). I should let you know that with the full body cover, the charger takes some work to get it to close but it's definitely close-able. Have fun with you new gear. I know I am.
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Were you able to get the Skinomi clasp cover to stay on? Mine was very difficult to get on to begin with and I could never get the corners to adhere properly. Within a couple days, the corners were full of dirt. Skinomi sent me a new one, but same problem. Is there a trick to get the corners to stay down, or is the clasp cover just useless?
I am sure you ll enjoy your gg . I just bought one purely to be used when I am out on my motorbike as it will be alot easier to see who calls etc without reaching to my phone with gloves and stuff.
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I know this is a slightly callous thing to say, but suddenly watches have fallen into the bi-yearly replaceable category.
No longer are they finely hand crafted devices that merely tell you just the time (and sometimes the date), they are an extension of your phone. Generally my analogue time pieces would last me anywhere between 5-15 years. This is technology though and we all know it can become out of date very quickly. It's sad and I dislike this fact, but I know that in a year or two I will want to upgrade to keep up with the Jones'. Not just that, I guarantee the Note 6 won't support the original Gear.
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Learn some basic electronics work and you'll be able to keep stuff running for much longer. That won't help with stuff that just get outdated to the point where they're no longer useful, but I don't see all that much application for more processing power in a watch. In a few years, just open it up and swap the battery with one purchased for a few dollars on a site like HobbyKing.
NiHaoMike said:
Learn some basic electronics work and you'll be able to keep stuff running for much longer. That won't help with stuff that just get outdated to the point where they're no longer useful, but I don't see all that much application for more processing power in a watch. In a few years, just open it up and swap the battery with one purchased for a few dollars on a site like HobbyKing.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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By the same logic, once the battery goes dead in your car, it's time to buy a new car because replacing the battery is "immoral and illegal". There's nothing wrong with trying to fix something you own.
This is truly an informative thread, thanks for all the detailed replies.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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Maybe there is a language barrier issue, but Klau1, if it is your watch then of course you can replace the battery in it with a new one. This is not immoral or illegal in any way.
highlordkram said:
Maybe there is a language barrier issue, but Klau1, if it is your watch then of course you can replace the battery in it with a new one. This is not immoral or illegal in any way.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)
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Lol. There is DEFINITELY a language barrier it seems.....
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(electricity)
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@jonboyuk: It turns out the Note 4 doesn't even support the original Gear.
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@jonboyuk: It turns out the Note 4 doesn't even support the original Gear.
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It's working fine on my T-Mobile Note 4 running fireKat rom
Edit... Mostly fine. The usual unlock issue
I have gathered up reports of the glass cracking by itself, and have come up with 6 reports already. Very concerning considering the availability of the phone. If you have a similar problem happening to you, please do post here, and if possible, please fill out this survey.
Thanks
Currently at 10 reports.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55904325&postcount=7
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861318&postcount=14 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861158&postcount=34
3/4. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...cked-shattered-on-it-s-own/m-p/844031#U844031 (2 posts in this)
5/6. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849 (2 posts in this)
7. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849
8. http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2iv7sq/z3c_back_glass_cracked_eta_on_replacement_parts/
9. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/846827/highlight/true#M525
10. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/849689/highlight/true#M636
Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far, I would guess more but lets be very conservative. 6 "cracking by itself" in 1000 phones = .6% chance
I think we should post on this over and over since it is such a huge chance of happening.
Two of those are also the same person.
The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Mine is solid too. No flex or distortion at all. And I would say 0.6% is a bit high. Their total sales are probably greater than 1000 by now. Probably closer to 1500 so that's more like .03 - .04%
But not all the 1500 user complain on XDA or the web...
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
Pocketability, to me, has never meant you can put a glass phone in your rear pocket.
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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
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I'm not concerned about pick pockets. If they want my phone, the could take it from my hands just as easily. So, I guess we are not to put our wallets in our rear pocket either?
I don't sit on it for long periods of time. More time than not, it is out of my pocket while seated. The issue I have is with these excuses for manufactures. I'm not starting a lawsuit or demanding a refund. I'm simply just annoyed by the arrogance displayed. Pointing the finger at consumers for using said devices the way they have been used for years.
I can see the phablet argument. Those devices should not be on your pockets. (brief periods of time) But seriously, a compact phone that risks damage by pocket? That's hardly looking at the real audience your catering too.
Its not damage by pocket. Its damage by weight and force.
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My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
CollinsJ said:
Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far
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Then they'd better shut down their smartphone department considering Apple sold 10 million units on the first weekend and the Z3C got really good previews :cyclops:
Please stop this discussion on back pockets, whether or not that pocket is suitable for phones is not for discussion here. All the reports I posted said front pockets, and that is concerning.
JorgV said:
My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
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No, I'm quite sure it wasn't. As far as I know it was idle, just being stand-by .
"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
bilboa1 said:
"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
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Yeah, until someone is watching at the exact moment their phone spontaneously cracks, I'm not believing it. The way some people talk about the Z3C is like if you breathe on it too hard it will shatter instantaneously. My wife dropped her's from chest height onto hardwood floor with no case, screen protector, nothing. Not a scratch. Yet other people, drop it from a foot up, or having it leaning an it just tips over, and breaks... seems odd. Not calling these people liars, just that there must be more to it than that. Probably something along the lines of what bilboa1 said.
Hi All,
Has anyone been able to track down somewhere that is selling a replacement back for the Mix? Mine is scratched quite heavily (likely from using a fairly tight sleeve) and I would really like to replace it....Or for any poor soul out there who has damaged their Mix and would like to sell the back. The irony is the sides of the phone are pristine and not a scratch, not so much on the back.
Thanks in advance
imapfsr said:
Hi All,
Has anyone been able to track down somewhere that is selling a replacement back for the Mix? Mine is scratched quite heavily (likely from using a fairly tight sleeve) and I would really like to replace it....Or for any poor soul out there who has damaged their Mix and would like to sell the back. The irony is the sides of the phone are pristine and not a scratch, not so much on the back.
Thanks in advance
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And here's me thinking it was virtually impossible to scratch.
jazz452 said:
And here's me thinking it was virtually impossible to scratch.
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You are wrong.It is made in China.Enough said.Looks good but who cares about quailty.It is NOT CERAMIC but made to looks like it.
I had it and my suggestion is save money for Galaxy S8+ or something more valuable.
I had to take the pictures with my Galaxy tablet so not the best quality but you get the picture. This is with normal day to day use as well, nothing extreme. I even had the Best Buy film on the back for a few months but got tired of the sharp edges from the film every time i unlocked with the finger print sensor. I am wondering if the chemicals from the glue combined with peeling of the film stripped some of the finish somehow as this is supposed to be so scratch resistant. Maybe just one with a faulty finish.
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I had to take the pictures with my Galaxy tablet so not the best quality but you get the picture. This is with normal day to day use as well, nothing extreme. I even had the Best Buy film on the back for a few months but got tired of the sharp edges from the film every time i unlocked with the finger print sensor. I am wondering if the chemicals from the glue combined with peeling of the film stripped some of the finish somehow as this is supposed to be so scratch resistant. Maybe just one with a faulty finish.
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So the YouTube video is fake or is it your phone, it's been tested against scratches with a hardness of 7, second to none, don't get it. Not one other person complaining I dropped mine when it slipped off a table on it's own while i was in another room,, expecting the worse but not even a mark.
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So the YouTube video is fake or is it your phone, it's been tested against scratches with a hardness of 7, second to none, don't get it. Not one other person complaining I dropped mine when it slipped off a table on it's own while i was in another room,, expecting the worse but not even a mark.
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Sorry, I am not sure what your point is. I am certainly not making it up as per the pictures. I was only asking if anyone had seen the replacement backs anywhere. I absolutely love his phone but have been disappointed how much is has scratched on the back, not questioning the online videos etc.
By the way, what was the purpose of your post? If you have nothing to contribute to solving the question at hand why say anything?
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Sorry, I am not sure what your point is. I am certainly not making it up as per the pictures. I was only asking if anyone had seen the replacement backs anywhere. I absolutely love his phone but have been disappointed how much is has scratched on the back, not questioning the online videos etc.
By the way, what was the purpose of your post? If you have nothing to contribute to solving the question at hand why say anything?
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Suppose my point was because of shortage of the ceramic maybe they sent some out with different materials.
Mine is just fine after a while of use, both in and out of a protective case, side note mine also doesn't have the "cottage" cheese looking blemishes yours seems to have in the pictures. Its possible to have received a "repaired" one instead of a legit one ... especially if it came from a reseller. There are mentions of this on the xiaomi reddit and other places. its extremely scratch resistant, as much so as any Samsung or other device out there that I have dealt with [and I do service work on phones so I have seen plenty of damaged devices - HUGE number of sub standard Samsung's btw - for the value guy ]
Good luck on finding a part supplier, you MAY find one on Aliexpress ... but there more than likely not going to be genuine parts. Vopmart.com
Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I hope I didnt get a refurb etc, that would suck.
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Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I hope I didnt get a refurb etc, that would suck.
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Had a look about couldn't see any anywhere, don't know what the solution is, hope you come up with something.
Nicolfa said:
Mine is just fine after a while of use, both in and out of a protective case, side note mine also doesn't have the "cottage" cheese looking blemishes yours seems to have in the pictures.
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I think that is a reflection of the popcorn finish from the roof in my bedroom
imapfsr said:
I think that is a reflection of the popcorn finish from the roof in my bedroom
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Could you not sell your house buy another and take fresh picture to rule that out
I'm on it! ?
Lol is possible . I also hope you didn't get a refurbished​ one.
jazz452 said:
Suppose my point was because of shortage of the ceramic maybe they sent some out with different materials.
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It's not the point of this discussion but I also have tiny scratches beside the lenses​ and fingerprint...
It's not unscratchable...
Nothing is unscratchable :_)
Is this normal?
PS: I am using UAG plasma CASE.
ALEXRUSS55 said:
Is this normal?
PS: I am using UAG plasma CASE.
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To be honest with you im not gonna throw my $1000 phone on the floor to test for you xD
But this used to happen with my Note 5, whenever it was dropped the pen would fly out like a rocket.
i guess it is kinda normal because of the push release system, the shock from the fall will eject it.
it would also happen if you swung the phone downwards, the pen would shoot out, however i have not tried this with the note 8 either
p.s (your not supposed to drop your phone)
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Is this normal?
PS: I am using UAG plasma CASE.
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OMG! How often are you dropping your phone to notice this? Is the screen ok?
Truth is it's always going to based on where the impact on the phone occurred and at what height. My brother accidentally dropped his from the table onto hardwood floor. The Whitestone Dome Glass now has a hairline crack on it. But the S Pen stayed put in the device. I know a colleague who dropped her Note 5 phone and the S Pen actually shattered inside the Note. Half of it came out and the other half is wedged in there. So bottom line is be more careful and don't drop it!
Don't drop your phone?
lol Bit of a tall order that not dropping of the phone thing, I do understand the intent was probably something more along the lines of "be careful". I've dropped mine and the pen did not come out. I never had it come out on my previous Notes either although there were few tests as I was following the advice above and trying to be careful with them.
Flagship phones represent more than 2% of an average individual workers annual income. If you look at this from an angle of trying to gain perspective imagine instead you're talking about an 850 dollar laptop. Fairly average for laptop pricing and yet I treat my laptops more carefully than I do my phones which now have similar pricing. I think in my mind buying all those phones previously for much less than they now cost has the effect of making them seem to be something of lower cost in my mind although that reality is no longer correct. In other words my perception hasn't kept up with reality. Maybe it's just me but I do know I pay attention with my laptop, with my phone it's just there.
Don't drop the phone. Throw it down hard and the phone and pen will hit the floor at the same time. The pen won't have time to fall out.
Just be careful! DO NOT DROP YOUR PHONE!
The s pen poping out should be the least of your concerns
The 3 or 4 times that I've dropped my Note 5,7,8 the Spen has always popped out.
haircut123 said:
Why are you dropping your note 8 many times are you insane
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I take it that was a rhetorical question?
ALEXRUSS55 said:
Is this normal?
PS: I am using UAG plasma CASE.
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I droped the phone over the carpet, and s pen popped out too, using ruged spigen case. think rubber acts like an spring.
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well if we look at the slot, there no real "lock" in the mechanism/design itself
when we pop the s-pen its actually not the s-pen poping but rather the "spring-top-parts" that poping out so we can pull the pen
when u pull the pen there just little resistant to it
afaik the s-pen is holded by small bump in the slot
thus dropping note8 can cause s-pen to pop itself, maybe yours have slot that more loose that causing easier to pop
but other than that i think normal
neograndizer said:
OMG! How often are you dropping your phone to notice this? Is the screen ok?
bottom line is be more careful and don't drop it!
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Why are you dropping your note 8 many times are you insane
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winol said:
Just be careful! DO NOT DROP YOUR PHONE!
The s pen poping out should be the least of your concerns
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Its a phone, people not an infant, and life doesnt end when you drop a cell phone..:crying:
and yes, OP, my spen pops out the couple of times I have dropped my phone..no big deal
wase4711 said:
Its a phone, people not an infant, and life doesnt end when you drop a cell phone..:crying:
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WHAAA??!! My brain is in there! Or I thought it was...
All kidding aside, it's an expensive investment for some. Dropping it on a continual basis means you risk eventually breaking it and if no insurance is in place, a very costly lesson in life. And the S Pen would be the least of my worries if I ever dropped it. I'd be more concerned that nothing inside got jarred or glass crack. Or worse, the pen snaps inside the Note itself. I want this thing to last at least 4 years minimum before I consider replacing it. That is my ROI expectations on the device after paying so much into it. Which also means making sure I keep it in good shape and not abuse it like a mad man. LOL
Unfortunately, in this day and age, people have become more 'wired'. I mean what's so important on the phone you still have to use it while doing your business in the john?
yes, its a major investment, and, I doubt it will last you 4 years..
that being said, considering what a major investment it is, why do people who have no idea what they are doing with it, want to root it, mod it, flash all sorts of stuff to it without knowing for certain how to fix it if they brick it?
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yes, its a major investment, and, I doubt it will last you 4 years.
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OT: my Note 2 lasted me 4.5 years when I finally decided to upgrade to the Note 8... So yeah... I expect it to last me 4 years! Well at least I hope so! LOL
LOL, may be it is better to have the screen pops out instead of S-Pen when the phone is dropped. :-o
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Unfortunately, in this day and age, people have become more 'wired'. I mean what's so important on the phone you still have to use it while doing your business in the john?
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Yeah, it'll just make you usually sit on the john longer than you need to. Then you get ring around the ass. Then there's the risk of dropping your phone in the john!
With that said, I do it too. It's multitasking! If you do it right you're saving time. Getting shi* done while taking care of your shi*. :laugh:
the one time i dropped my phone...the spen popped out as well...i don't think it's anything to worry about..
wase4711 said:
Its a phone, people not an infant, and life doesnt end when you drop a cell phone..:crying:
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I mean, to be fair, it is a rather large investment for many users. It's not "just" a phone when taking everything into consideration. Dropping a device like this does cause a fair amount of stress for many depending on the result of that drop. It would be cool to be able to experience these drops without any stress but that's not the case for most of us. Sometimes a damaged phone (especially one as expensive as this one) can cause some real headaches, regardless of how careful we may be.
I do remember @OP, my Note 5 slipping out of my jacket pocket as I was getting out of my car at Best Buy once. S-Pen had popped out but I didn't notice it was gone until I had gotten home. I remember thinking that it may have landed under my car so I decided to go back to the parking space in the hopes that it may still be there. There was another car parked in the same spot so I looked under and sure enough the bastard was right there. It was a bit mauled up, though. Probably by other cars entering and leaving the parking spot. It wouldn't fit back into my Note 5 properly but it still worked on my display just fine.
I ended up ordering another S-Pen directly from Samsung because I couldn't trust the ones I saw on Amazon from third party sellers. Funny enough, I ended up getting the replacement S-Pen for free due to some shipping errors on Samsung's part. So this missing S-Pen had a happy ending after all. Anyway, hope you don't lose yours the next time you drop your phone.
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wase4711 said:
yes, its a major investment, and, I doubt it will last you 4 years..
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Without knowing the user in question personally I'd suggest it's difficult to cast any doubt. I still run into folks with 3-5 year old phones that are in perfect working order. I can see how that can be more common across the user space just as easily as seeing enough who can't keep units in working conditions longer than a year.
Every time my wife drops her Note 5 out the window of the car while driving her Spen falls out too. This is annoying as the Spens are really hard to find in the gravel on the side of the road.
....not really joking about that