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Question worth the upgrade?

Coming from the S20 Ultra. NOt sure if its worth the upgrade. Anyone upgrading from S20 Ultra?

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My reasons are the S Pen (I miss the Note experience), adaptive refresh (without entering on screen settings every minute), the Phantom Black color (my carrier sent me a grey S20 Ultra and I hate it) and the camera (hope the S21U won't have the same focus problems of the S20U). And my carrier gives me 680€ for my S20U (a half of the S21U 256GB price).

Im on the Note 20 Ultra now and ordered the S21 Ultra. I skipped the S20 last year so thought Id check it out this year.
The camera and fingerprint sensor Im looking forward to trying but all im all not much of a jump from the note.

force70 said:
Im on the Note 20 Ultra now and ordered the S21 Ultra. I skipped the S20 last year so thought Id check it out this year.
The camera and fingerprint sensor Im looking forward to trying but all im all not much of a jump from the note.
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It's also thicker and heavier than Note 20!

Bigger battery!

Not worth the upgrade besides the camera. It is heavier and thicker. It is more like a downgrade if anything. No microsd, smaller display, same battery. Will wait for next year's

force70 said:
Bigger battery!
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absolutely right

lucky_strike33 said:
Coming from the S20 Ultra. NOt sure if its worth the upgrade. Anyone upgrading from S20 Ultra?
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Significantly better focus on the S21 ultra, plus 3x AND 10x optical zoom.
If cameras are your #1 consideration then yes, upgrade. If not, then you are probably better to waiting for S22U release.

If galaxy s21 ultra worth it or stay with pixel 4 xl

Hello I am pixel 4 XL I'm undecided to replace the pixel for Samsung s21 ultra mainly because of the new camera of s21 ultra the question if it's worth it ?

oraned said:
Hello I am pixel 4 XL I'm undecided to replace the pixel for Samsung s21 ultra mainly because of the new camera of s21 ultra the question if it's worth it ?
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I also have the Pixel4XL and am tempted to go for the S21 ultra either the 256gb or the 512mb version as I feel the 128gb version would be a waster of money with all that 4k videos an 12 bit raw photos.
I also buy my phones for camera and love the fact that you can get close for macro with the wide angle lens and the 3x and 10x zoom look appealing as well.

tfn said:
I also have the Pixel4XL and am tempted to go for the S21 ultra either the 256gb or the 512mb version as I feel the 128gb version would be a waster of money with all that 4k videos an 12 bit raw photos.
I also buy my phones for camera and love the fact that you can get close for macro with the wide angle lens and the 3x and 10x zoom look appealing as well.
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In my pixel 4 XL I on camera px and I x10 the results look good but I mean if 21 there is different in x10

tfn said:
I also have the Pixel4XL and am tempted to go for the S21 ultra either the 256gb or the 512mb version as I feel the 128gb version would be a waster of money with all that 4k videos an 12 bit raw photos.
I also buy my phones for camera and love the fact that you can get close for macro with the wide angle lens and the 3x and 10x zoom look appealing as well.
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Samsung photo processing can't still beat the pixel one.

For me, I'm over the "Ultra/Max Flagship". I don't need/want to spend $1200 even with 0% financing. I would rather spend $700 every two years for 3 new phones ($2100) than $1200 every 3 years for 2 new phones ($2400). I'm 99% sure I'll get the Pixel 6.

I originally bought the s20 ultra for the camera. The photos from it are great but I also brought along my mirrorless camera for anything worthy of photographing. I have grown to dislike how heavy and big the phone is through the years. I am now back to using my P4xl and enjoying it.

Question Mi 11 Ultra. Worth bought over Mi 11?

Recently, I'm thinking to replace my S21 ultra with either Mi 11 or Mi 11 ultra. Since the price difference is pretty big between the two devices, My question is , specially for those who owned both devices, is the ultra worth spending that much bucks over the regular Mi 11? and what are the main things I will get if I buy the ultra over the regular one?
Thanks in advance

I think the main difference is the camera and the second screen on the rear. I can't see any reason to get any of the two coming from an S21 ultra

If you value photography, go with the Mi 11 Ultra. It can rival with the S21 Ultra. The Mi 11 is decent in terms of photos, but significantly worse than the S21 Ultra and Mi 11 Ultra.
That's basically all there is to it. If you don't care about photos then get the vanilla Mi 11, although it would be a step down from your Samsung.

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jericho246 said:
If you value photography, go with the Mi 11 Ultra. It can rival with the S21 Ultra. The Mi 11 is decent in terms of photos, but significantly worse than the S21 Ultra and Mi 11 Ultra.
That's basically all there is to it. If you don't care about photos then get the vanilla Mi 11, although it would be a step down from your Samsung.
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Well I do not care a lot about photography. I do care much about battery life, charging speed and performance. So is mi 11 ultra any much better in these terms over the mi 11 or the s21 ultra? also is there any other sacrifices I will be making if I change to any of those?

lordvoldmort said:
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Well I do not care a lot about photography. I do care much about battery life, charging speed and performance. So is mi 11 ultra any much better in these terms over the mi 11 or the s21 ultra? also is there any other sacrifices I will be making if I change to any of those?
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If you dont care about photography but you want a top phone buy the Mi 11 Pro not the Mi 11, it's almost the same than the Ultra but cheaper, Ultra is a bit more elitist and unique but the Pro is almost the same phone for around $200+ cheaper.

lordvoldmort said:
Recently, I'm thinking to replace my S21 ultra with either Mi 11 or Mi 11 ultra.....
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I presently own both the S21U (Exynos) and the Mi11U.
For me it's a close call between both devices with each one having strengths and weaknesses.
Camera : more capabilities in the Tele department on the S21U, also more consistent results and IMO the better "point&shoot". The Mi11U has significantly lower noise and the 5x is pretty good, but the main sensor has a much shallower depth-of-field making getting the correct focus difficult at times. On the other hand Samsung processing tends to oversharpen and kill fine details at times, but this has become much less pronounced with latest updates. All in all both are capable of getting really excellent images where it's difficult for me to name a winner.
Haptics: both are very solid devices (and heavy ones, too). The Mi11U is slightly more unbalanced due to the heavy top module, making it a bit more awkward when held for long time. FP reader is better on S21U (never thought I'd say that about a Samsung), the Mi11U is good but I've seen better and more reliable ones on other phones (e.g. OP 8Pro).
Displays: excellent on both, no big difference to my eye.
Performance: the Exynos is (for my taste) pretty close to the SD888, only slightly behind specifically with Graphics intense games. Overall excellent fluidity of the UI on both, a first time for a Samsung phone for my taste.
UI: clearly more customizability on MIUI, also better privacy options - for my taste. But this whole department is really very subjective....
Battery: for my light to medium usage pretty comparable on both, Standby is excellent on both. The faster charging on the Mi11U is very convenient and the only point where for me the S21U is really lacking (I use wireless charging exclusively BTW). When used heavily the Mi11U tends to drain a bit faster and get significantly warmer.
Just my 2 cents and sorry the lengthy text ,
Axel

s3axel said:
I presently own both the S21U (Exynos) and the Mi11U.
For me it's a close call between both devices with each one having strengths and weaknesses.
Camera : more capabilities in the Tele department on the S21U, also more consistent results and IMO the better "point&shoot". The Mi11U has significantly lower noise and the 5x is pretty good, but the main sensor has a much shallower depth-of-field making getting the correct focus difficult at times. On the other hand Samsung processing tends to oversharpen and kill fine details at times, but this has become much less pronounced with latest updates. All in all both are capable of getting really excellent images where it's difficult for me to name a winner.
Haptics: both are very solid devices (and heavy ones, too). The Mi11U is slightly more unbalanced due to the heavy top module, making it a bit more awkward when held for long time. FP reader is better on S21U (never thought I'd say that about a Samsung), the Mi11U is good but I've seen better and more reliable ones on other phones (e.g. OP 8Pro).
Displays: excellent on both, no big difference to my eye.
Performance: the Exynos is (for my taste) pretty close to the SD888, only slightly behind specifically with Graphics intense games. Overall excellent fluidity of the UI on both, a first time for a Samsung phone for my taste.
UI: clearly more customizability on MIUI, also better privacy options - for my taste. But this whole department is really very subjective....
Battery: for my light to medium usage pretty comparable on both, Standby is excellent on both. The faster charging on the Mi11U is very convenient and the only point where for me the S21U is really lacking (I use wireless charging exclusively BTW). When used heavily the Mi11U tends to drain a bit faster and get significantly warmer.
Just my 2 cents and sorry the lengthy text ,
Axel
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I'm trying to decide between these two. Samsung slightly ahead for local warranty + parts/servicing etc. Is the mi11u good enough to risk a grey import for, or would you pick the s21u? My priorities are camera and battery life.

lordvoldmort said:
Recently, I'm thinking to replace my S21 ultra with either Mi 11 or Mi 11 ultra. Since the price difference is pretty big between the two devices, My question is , specially for those who owned both devices, is the ultra worth spending that much bucks over the regular Mi 11? and what are the main things I will get if I buy the ultra over the regular one?
Thanks in advance
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I would probably keep the s21 ultra since the investment is already made
There is not much measurable improvements in the mi 11 ultra you will notice and the regular mi 11 would be a step down in almost every aspect except maybe charging speed which is partially negated by having a smaller battery size and worse cooling

flashkobalt said:
I'm trying to decide between these two. Samsung slightly ahead for local warranty + parts/servicing etc. Is the mi11u good enough to risk a grey import for, or would you pick the s21u? My priorities are camera and battery life.
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Sorry, I can't decide that for you All I can say is that I'm pretty torn between both and have a difficult time to decide which one has to go. And BTW I got the CN version of the Mi11U with 512GB
For me it boils down to better balance/feel in hand on the S21U plus versatility in the Zoom-cameras and the more consistent image results vs faster charging, less noise and the (for me) nicer UI on the Mi11U.
Another point is that the MI11U fully supports GCam and I think has in general a bit more room for improvement as its newer, the S21U only supports GCam for the UW/Wide lenses presently and it has already made big leaps ahead in the recent updates - no idea how much room is left for further improvements but I'd think the majority of what could be achieved has been done.
And some additional points I didn't mention so far:
Internal speakers on the Mi11U are better, have more "oopmh", on the other hand the earpiece during calls is a bit better on the S21U (louder and better clarity)....
USB-Speed is much faster on the S21U (USB3 vs USB2) - like 300 MBps vs 40Mbps
In general WIFI speed seems to be faster on the Mi11U as is radio reception - but don't expect huge differences

s3axel said:
Sorry, I can't decide that for you All I can say is that I'm pretty torn between both and have a difficult time to decide which one has to go. And BTW I got the CN version of the Mi11U with 512GB
For me it boils down to better balance/feel in hand on the S21U plus versatility in the Zoom-cameras and the more consistent image results vs faster charging, less noise and the (for me) nicer UI on the Mi11U.
Another point is that the MI11U fully supports GCam and I think has in general a bit more room for improvement as its newer, the S21U only supports GCam for the UW/Wide lenses presently and it has already made big leaps ahead in the recent updates - no idea how much room is left for further improvements but I'd think the majority of what could be achieved has been done.
And some additional points I didn't mention so far:
Internal speakers on the Mi11U are better, have more "oopmh", on the other hand the earpiece during calls is a bit better on the S21U (louder and better clarity)....
USB-Speed is much faster on the S21U (USB3 vs USB2) - like 300 MBps vs 40Mbps
In general WIFI speed seems to be faster on the Mi11U as is radio reception - but don't expect huge differences
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They really dropped the ball using usb2 on this phone , especially the 512gb version
Whatever they saved was likely pennies

i haven't held a sammy since the s8, i do not like the UI and while miui took some getting used to after my mate 20 pro i have come around and it's pretty slick. i'm not sure if it's android 11 or miui, but the app permissions thing is kinda killing me. the pics and video on the m11 ultra are pretty awesome, i've gotten compliments from iphone 12maxpro users...wow how do you take so much better pictures...lol

s3axel said:
I presently own both the S21U (Exynos) and the Mi11U.
For me it's a close call between both devices with each one having strengths and weaknesses.
Camera : more capabilities in the Tele department on the S21U, also more consistent results and IMO the better "point&shoot". The Mi11U has significantly lower noise and the 5x is pretty good, but the main sensor has a much shallower depth-of-field making getting the correct focus difficult at times. On the other hand Samsung processing tends to oversharpen and kill fine details at times, but this has become much less pronounced with latest updates. All in all both are capable of getting really excellent images where it's difficult for me to name a winner.
Haptics: both are very solid devices (and heavy ones, too). The Mi11U is slightly more unbalanced due to the heavy top module, making it a bit more awkward when held for long time. FP reader is better on S21U (never thought I'd say that about a Samsung), the Mi11U is good but I've seen better and more reliable ones on other phones (e.g. OP 8Pro).
Displays: excellent on both, no big difference to my eye.
Performance: the Exynos is (for my taste) pretty close to the SD888, only slightly behind specifically with Graphics intense games. Overall excellent fluidity of the UI on both, a first time for a Samsung phone for my taste.
UI: clearly more customizability on MIUI, also better privacy options - for my taste. But this whole department is really very subjective....
Battery: for my light to medium usage pretty comparable on both, Standby is excellent on both. The faster charging on the Mi11U is very convenient and the only point where for me the S21U is really lacking (I use wireless charging exclusively BTW). When used heavily the Mi11U tends to drain a bit faster and get significantly warmer.
Just my 2 cents and sorry the lengthy text ,
Axel
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But s21 have a lot of Updates about camera. Its 1y phone almost.
Mi11u with time will be better after few Updates.

i would not touch anything samsung with a stick after what they did to smartthings, they cant even make vaccum properly.
unfortunately after reading this thread i compared prices s21u.
why s21u is so much cheaper while having more ram?
is it exynos really that bad?
over $200 bad?

kaczyrezym said:
i would not touch anything samsung with a stick after what they did to smartthings, they cant even make vaccum properly.
unfortunately after reading this thread i compared prices s21u.
why s21u is so much cheaper while having more ram?
is it exynos really that bad?
over $200 bad?
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The Chinese Price is the only one I would pay for a xiaomi and that's the 12/512

lordvoldmort said:
Recently, I'm thinking to replace my S21 ultra with either Mi 11 or Mi 11 ultra. Since the price difference is pretty big between the two devices, My question is , specially for those who owned both devices, is the ultra worth spending that much bucks over the regular Mi 11? and what are the main things I will get if I buy the ultra over the regular one?
Thanks in advance
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I haven't used the Mi 11, but I have used the S21 Ultra and the Mi 11 Ultra is easily on par with the S21 Ultra.

kaczyrezym said:
i would not touch anything samsung with a stick after what they did to smartthings, they cant even make vaccum properly.
unfortunately after reading this thread i compared prices s21u.
why s21u is so much cheaper while having more ram?
is it exynos really that bad?
over $200 bad?
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That's regional.....

kaczyrezym said:
i would not touch anything samsung with a stick after what they did to smartthings, they cant even make vaccum properly.
unfortunately after reading this thread i compared prices s21u.
why s21u is so much cheaper while having more ram?
is it exynos really that bad?
over $200 bad?
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Giztop lists the current price for the Mi 11 Ultra 8/256 at $899 and the 12/256 at $999. The 12/512 version of the Mi 11 Ultra goes for $1099. Samsung lists the S21 Ultra at $1249.99 for 12/128. The S21 Ultra doesn't sound cheaper to me.

jim262 said:
Giztop lists the current price for the Mi 11 Ultra 8/256 at $899 and the 12/256 at $999. The 12/512 version of the Mi 11 Ultra goes for $1099. Samsung lists the S21 Ultra at $1249.99 for 12/128. The S21 Ultra doesn't sound cheaper to me.
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Check the China mi11u with 12/512 vs the 512gb s21u
Huge price difference when you want half a terrabyte of storage
And we get a 67w charger free, they have the option to buy a 25w charger separately!
Also most countries can only get the exynos which doesn't give the same value or working gcam

speedtripler said:
Check the China mi11u with 12/512 vs the 512gb s21u
Huge price difference when you want half a terrabyte of storage
And we get a 67w charger free, they have the option to buy a 25w charger separately!
Also most countries can only get the exynos which doesn't give the same value or working gcam
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I personally don't care about sub par, glitcy gcam, but I do care about SAVINGS!

jim262 said:
I personally don't care about sub par, glitcy gcam, but I do care about SAVINGS!
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SD over Exynos
Regardless of price!

Question Is it worth upgrading from S21 ultra to S22 Ultra

Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??

If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra
For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.

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Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??
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S22 ultra doesn't seem like a huge upgrade over the S21U. If an integrated S-Pen is an absolute must-have for you, then by all means get the new phone. But other than that, I don't see a compelling reason to buy one. The S21 Ultra is still an amazing phone even after a year. And honestly speaking, the design is so iconic, I would choose this over the S22U design anyday (based on all the leaks). But that is a highly subjective matter, so it's upto the buyer. If you can afford it and justify it, go for it. Life is short, do the things you enjoy

Not sure if it's worth but trying to beat the boredom of "life in the time of Covid" I went ahead with the reservation, aiming for the 'ultra'.
Hey, it's not a marriage - I can still send it back if I don't fall in love with it on the first sight.

I know the specs aren't that much better then the S21 ultra, but the s range has always been way cheaper in south africa then the note, so I would like to have the s pen, but it all depends on the price on contract

No, I won't be upgrading. First off there are very few improvements, nothing is innovative. Secondly there have been numerous problems in producing the Exynos/AMD SoC. Thirdly it will ship with Android 12 which to date is still plagued with numerous bugs. The S21 works much better on Android 11.

it happens to almost all phones.
i still own s10 plus, works perfectly
I also get the s21 ultra
tempteing to get s-pen th0

dezborders said:
If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra
For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.
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Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!

In south africa there is no trade in deals... Just the normal carrier deals... So, hopefully it won't be too expensive

Tbh I don't think it worth upgrading to the S22 Ultra, it's got to the point now where any improvements are only minor even the camera on the S22 Ultra will only be slightly better than the S21 Ultra, plus i wouldn't be surprised once One UI 4.1 hits the S21 Ultra these improvements are brought down from the S22 Ultra.
I've had my S21 Ultra since last July this has been hands down best phone I've ever owned from Samsung, & i've had practically most of the S range & Note's over the years, the only downside to keeping the S21 Ultra really will be waiting slightly longer for updates once the S22 series has launched.
So I'm going to keep enjoying my S21 Ultra until the S23 Ultra next year.

Will see how it goes and what offers and trade ins are available. I have always been an S series user but loved the Spen support on the Ultra. It is a beast and having got the 512gb 16gb ram I could run it another year or so without any hiccups given that I haven't used it to its full pontential due to Covid.
Only thing I am worried with the S22 Ultra is the 45 Fast Charging and the Crammed 5000mah battery which although welcome I am afraid it might have those 'burst into flames' issues samsung had and how the new amd graphics might come with its own issues with Android 12.
No doubt it will have even a more Awesome battery life compared to the S21 Ultra and better Spen support with bluetooth and stuff. I am sure with the New Expert Raw and the Spen Bluetooth functionality they will promote it as a mobile Photographers Dream phone not to mention the ease of editing with the Spen.
Have my options open and will see how it pans out.

Wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for SD 8 Gen1. New and unproven soc.

For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo

Thanks for everybody given their input....

New camera sensor for even more light/detail
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous
Best screen on market with even more brightness
And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)
Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.

lywyn said:
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
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Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!
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In the USA yes Samsung is ultra generous with trade-in. In UK not so much ...
Outside of US, ebay and FB Marketplace selling prices are much higher than trade in.

lywyn said:
New camera sensor for even more light/detail
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous
Best screen on market with even more brightness
And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)
Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.
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"New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available"
Samsung has experienced numerous production issues with the Exynos 2200 SoC. Out of an entire wafer only a few chipsets are functional. Raytracing is misleading since there are currently no apps capable of raytracing integration on smartphones. In Geekbench 5 tests the Exynos/AMD 2200 was out performed not only by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 but the Snapdragon 888 also. There may be a few good reasons to buy an S22 but hoping for a better SoC isn't one of them.
Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888
Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888. The new flagship chipset Samsung lost to all competitors.
www.google.com.mx

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo
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It will probably be enough for the lower end ripoff 8GB version IF they do a trade-in

termdj said:
Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra
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Here's how it's going to sound...you would have read all the views here and it's mostly a no to the upgrade. But, this thread was a validation for your already made up mind to go ahead with the S22U. Comrade...don't sweat it...if your heart says goes for it..and you have the means for it...go ahead enjoy! As @enigmaamit said here... life's short..enjoy it to the fullest...Go ahead...take the leap of faith...

I am definitely looking forward to the S-Pen being built in. I do a lot of photo editing using my fat fingers so having the pressure-sensitive pen will save me a lot of "undo/redo" time.
The latest "leaked images" show the screen flatter without the curved edges and I like that clean look. I can upgrade for free with my network so I am ready to leap!

Question ONE UI 5.1 for S21

Hi.
Anybody have any idea when one Ui 5.1 will drop officially for the S21 series?
I am holding on to my S21 ultra as I feel most of the features of the S23 ultra are software based and so don't feel the need to upgrade.
2 years from preorder and its still a solid phone.
Also samsung haven't sorted out the shutter lag it seems on the S23 Ultra.
For photos it seems to have moved to more vibrant and hdrish photos for the S23 series as compared to the s21 series.
What do you guys think

S21U is definitely a solid phone.
5.1 is nothing to be very excited about. There is no life changing features to wait for. The current software in my opinion is good enough for everyday use. Camera is still as excellent as it was, maybe even better.
Battery life has decreased a little but not by much. There's no particular reason why I would ever change device.

mpore14 said:
S21U is definitely a solid phone.
5.1 is nothing to be very excited about. There is no life changing features to wait for. The current software in my opinion is good enough for everyday use. Camera is still as excellent as it was, maybe even better.
Battery life has decreased a little but not by much. There's no particular reason why I would ever change device.
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I feel at least 60% of the S23 ultra show off is due to one ui 5.1 and software optimisation.
Especially with the camera via Expert raw .
If you compare the s21 ultra photos to the S23 ultras the s23 ultra tends to lean towards more vibrant and hdrish photos compared to the s21 ultras muted photos.