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PSX - Playstation 1 on Diamond - with FPSECE

Hi,
i don't know if everybody knows, you can play PSX 1 games on the PockePC devices...
Diamond has a fast Processor VGA Screen so thats good conditions too play games... the bad ones are the missing buttons... but with FPSEce there is also a onscreen Controller so that should not be the problem...
Heres the offical Homepage:
http://www.fpsece.net/
i prefer to use the .96 Beta from Forum!!
heres a vid of running ff7 on a pocketpc:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OTulLVj3Ww
i'm totally impressed with the psx bt controller... i didn't saw/or know that such things exist... so you dont need hardware buttons
i have testet FF7 today too but i don't get it too run...
the Bios starts well.. FPS over 100... but after that noting happens...
i have tryed different img what i could found for download... my original ff7 cd is lost somewhere... so i can't try to rip it off by my self... maybe someone can try this... (Should be done with alcohol as i read somewhere because all other destroys the images to work with the emu...)

any news for this emulator?

COOL! could you add G-sensor support to this? say to press the center button and then use the g-sensor to detect motion and control the direction?
PS2 games me ay also possibly be playable on the diamond,
Remember the Diamond has a 528 MHz processor, while the PS2 has only 294MHz processor
specs at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2

sorry.. if u are saying the diamond is faster than a ps2.. its not.. the processor speed is simply not the same
for e.g.
1ghz on pentium and 1ghz on pentium 4 with HT.. which is faster? de latter rite...
plus ps2 has a well powered GPU.. diamond has a dedicated video chip but its not v powerful.. merely for touchflo 3D...
try installing pocket pc games like tony hawkk pro skater 2 which was also released on the ps1 and u know wad im toking about.. even with hardware acceleration the game isnt as smooth as playing on the ps1 itself..

actually
actually yes and no to a few people above me
the ps2 actually has 2 cpus a 299mhz cpu and a 150mhz co-processor
these would be the hardest to emulate the 299mhz cpu is actually the easy one the 150mhz cpu is a vector (floating point) cpu which arm cpus (like the diamonds) do very slowly however the graphics card is a 16 pipe 147mhz 4mb graphics card which belive it or not we have more power than (the diamond has a 333mhz 12 pipe gfx card with 16mb of faster ram) but the problem is that there is no driver for the card on the diamond for developers like me to use.
so the short story is yes it is doable even at 30fps if they could use the gfx card to emulate the co-processor but it would take a lot of development time and skills to do and some help from HTC to do it in a relistic time...

In my experience, you need a CPU with at least 10 times the clock speed of the chip you're trying to emulate, unfortunately. That's before you take dedicated graphics processors etc. into account. It will be a good while before we see PS2 games being run on phones.

i managed to get destruction derby working on my trinity at ~24 fps which slowed down to 13 fps when you touched the screen. i am sure the diamond could do better

idrisito said:
i managed to get destruction derby working on my trinity at ~24 fps which slowed down to 13 fps when you touched the screen.
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yup, the infamous touchscreen cpuusage bug HTC hasn't been bothered fixing for 2.5 years...

I've tried the emulator with... Tekken 3 . Just 12-13 fps in portrait mode, so it works but not playable. If you try it in landscape mode, it doesn't work. And the onscreen pad is too small on Diamond screen.

It'd be nice if everyone posted
Games: | Options enabled/disabled | FPS
No need for compatibility, since it's available on the website.

danthekilla said:
actually yes and no to a few people above me
the ps2 actually has 2 cpus a 299mhz cpu and a 150mhz co-processor
these would be the hardest to emulate the 299mhz cpu is actually the easy one the 150mhz cpu is a vector (floating point) cpu which arm cpus (like the diamonds) do very slowly however the graphics card is a 16 pipe 147mhz 4mb graphics card which belive it or not we have more power than (the diamond has a 333mhz 12 pipe gfx card with 16mb of faster ram) but the problem is that there is no driver for the card on the diamond for developers like me to use.
so the short story is yes it is doable even at 30fps if they could use the gfx card to emulate the co-processor but it would take a lot of development time and skills to do and some help from HTC to do it in a relistic time...
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So, Diamond still doesent have video drivers? It must have some. And only 16 MB RAM ? Co-procesor has 64 MB RAM, does he?

I've tried the emulator with FF7 but 27 fps in portrait mode

isnt 27fps a very good and playable speed? or is the problem because thats in portrait mode?

27 fps is very slow and not playable

27 is good speed, I played llots of games on my PC on 22 FPS.

pokevitek said:
27 is good speed, I played llots of games on my PC on 22 FPS.
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Hahahaha lol. Thats funny.

so i would say 27fps is not awesome but it's defenitly more than enough for FF7.
a average cam used for TV captures about 25f/s
It has to be at least 21fps if you want to cheat the eye.

always posted in this forum...read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409990 i've made various test with FFIX

I could not get the fpsece run on my diamond. Although I have copied bios file in bios folder (I've already have a PS 1 so everything is legal) and try some game. But after trying to open .iso's diamond stucks for 15 seconds and nothing happens.... Any ideas?

jamuk2004 said:
isnt 27fps a very good and playable speed? or is the problem because thats in portrait mode?
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Yes it is! Especially when you consider that its max Fps on the actual PS1 was 30Fps

Fps in games

hi
Ive been trying to play a range of oldish (cod2) to newish (cod4,5) and the fps in them are crap! Im wondering if thats due to the onboard Nvidia GeForce 7025 graphics, or the 2gb of ram for win7 + games.
thanks
btw my pc spec is my signature!

Because of the onboard gpu (atleast in new games)
and if I read correctly then your ram is 267mhz? - thats a bit to slow for todays games!!
If youre planing to upgrade then I suggest you get a decent Graphic Card (nvidia 9somethin ot maybe 200 series card -- If your psu supports it!! ) and if youre at low fps then then upgrade to a faster ram, 2gb is enough!!
I got a Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 OC'd from 2.4 to 3.5ghz ; 4gb of Kingston 800mhz ram and a Nvidia GF8800GTS 640mb gpu on a Asus Striker II Formula (got it for the guaranty cuz my Asus Striker burned)-- and mostly I can play all new games on MAX spec except, of course CRYSIS

Thats weird, they play fine on my Fuze... Maybe change ROMS?
HAHAHAHA

update
the ram is pc6400 at 1607mhz

btw my computer is 50 days old today! Everything is brand new as of the 26 july 2009

then its 100% onboard gpu fault!!!
get nvidia card with hybrid power so you can use your onboard gpu and your GPU when needed!!!
write your PSU specs and Ill write some gpu's which will work with hybrid power and your psu will support the wattage!!

the psu is a colours it! 550w. And i was thinking of getting an XFX GeForce 9600GT XXX AlphaDog Edition which it £80-£90. What du think?

what are the fps ?
because if vsync is on you will only get as many fps as hz your screen refresh with
with is anyway the max fps people can ever get visually
but there are alot! of myths about this stuff
but buttom line is your screen refresh with a sudden hz and that mean thats
the number of times a second it draws the screen so
even if turning vsync off mean it will report much more fps it don't mean that your screen is displaying those fps

i dont know how to check fps in cod4 du no?
And whats vsync?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_synchronization
basically that the backbuffer is not blittered to the frontbuffer before
the frontbuffer is don't being drawn on the screen
about cod4 sorry never played any of those games

My fps in cod4 is 3!
How do i get that up?

flyboyovyick2k9 said:
My fps in cod4 is 3!
How do i get that up?
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Get a new GPU!!!!
and the 9600GT will do !!! it will work on the 550 W psu!!!
I have a 8800GTS 640 (eats more electricity and its on a 480W )
have you tried to set everything on min specs in video options(ingame) ?

yes i have set everything minimum. But still no luck!
I have decided to get a zotac GF 9800GT
Will that work

I will have to wait until i get some money cause im only 13! Might get it for crimbo!

flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I will have to wait until i get some money cause im only 13! Might get it for crimbo!
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save up some!!! Im 15 years old (almost 16) I have Touch HD (100% mine , bought for my money) - worked for it !!

sounds almost like you're using a generic vga driver rather then the real driver for the video card even if it's an onboard gpu

Yeah but i have installed the correct nvidia vga drivers. It might be a good idea to reinstall.
thx

hi again
i reinstalled the drivers to the latest version and set all the settings on cod to low.
BTW what is SLi and can i use it on an N68-S ASRock board
thx

Please don't get the 9800, although it is a powerfull card, if you get Sapphire HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 HDMI DVI VGA PCI-E Graphics Card £83.40 its will destroy the 9800 in any game, as for SLI i really wouldnt bother unless your monitor is 1920x1080 and your not getting a high (50+ constant) FPS. Also the 4850 will have no issues with your motherboard or Power supply.

yep i have the 4850 and it beats the crap out of all others in that price range,,,although it's not sapphire....but powercolor works fine too

[APP] Modern combat 2 and adreno 205

did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more

hamdir said:
did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox

AndroHero said:
i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate

hamdir said:
i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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its not just gameloft games, for example the galaxy s verson of NFS Shift looks amazing compared to the snapdragon version. it doesnt help that devs can't be arsed making better looking games for our version of adreno, they just make a snapdragon version. so ours our dumbed down so the desire and evo can play them

exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way

hamdir said:
exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they

AndroHero said:
omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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yes Motorola has their version from gameloft or at least its own SD cache

290MB of RAM? Why not make it 512MB

I saw that our phone has 512MB of RAM, but only 290MB is accessible. Can we Make it 512MB instead of just 290MB? Our phone is very slow

and what ram should the hardware use ?
and it cannot be done!

K.
K.

AcerBoy10 said:
I saw that our phone has 512MB of RAM, but only 290MB is accessible. Can we Make it 512MB instead of just 290MB? Our phone is very slow
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Please don't create new threads
Redirect your questions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279&page=5

512 MB
They Could have provided this smartphone with atleast 512MB most of the games dont work due to lack of ram :crying:

SREEHARI.NAIR said:
They Could have provided this smartphone with atleast 512MB most of the games dont work due to lack of ram :crying:
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"most games" don't work because of the GPU, not the RAM

ZakooZ said:
"most games" don't work because of the GPU, not the RAM
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We can extend the amount if games we can play by using CHAINFIRE 3D from Google play (Phone needs to be rooted) visit "new aces" blog for a full list of games that are playable with Chainfire (Sims 3, Temple run, plants versus zombies as well as other well known games)
Just follow the settings on new aces blog and you'll soon be playing descent HD games
Don't forget to thank me
The usual "Xx James xX" only on mobile...
(Sent Via Xda Developers App)

ZakooZ said:
"most games" don't work because of the GPU, not the RAM
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That and the CPU is ARM6 not ARM7.....
Chainfire can help but if you want to play the latest games get the latest handset :good:

The only prob is armv6.. thats it

Guys guys guys
where are we taking this
STOP !

The problem is in both CPU and GPU
cpu :-arm v6
gpu:-video core - 4
observe ,that some games like brothers in arms which work in original ace doesnt work in work in our ace -i .that is due to gpu .
ace has got another gpu which is better compared to our ace-i gpu

LG Optimus 2x Worth getting now ?

I have an xperia play and I love it but poor performance I have a few questions that if You guys answer me I'll be very happy cause I want to trade this phone for an 2x . So :
-Do games have 50+ fps in ICS ? (cause I have about 20-25-30 with xperia play )
-Any OC ability(cpu/gpu) ? And does it improve performance by lots?
-Is 512mb ram a big bottleneck ? Or does tegra2 do good anyway?
-Some links to good roms ? It's interesting to see features before getting the phone.
-How much free ram on ICS ?
-And finally what's the biggest antutu benchmark you guys got ?

McXeno said:
I have an xperia play and I love it but poor performance I have a few questions that if You guys answer me I'll be very happy cause I want to trade this phone for an 2x . So :
-Do games have 50+ fps in ICS ? (cause I have about 20-25-30 with xperia play )
-Any OC ability(cpu/gpu) ? And does it improve performance by lots?
-Is 512mb ram a big bottleneck ? Or does tegra2 do good anyway?
-Some links to good roms ? It's interesting to see features before getting the phone.
-How much free ram on ICS ?
-And finally what's the biggest antutu benchmark you guys got ?
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Lol I was using a 2x previously and now I have changed to xperia play to play emu games.
1. Yes for games with low requirements(e.g. Tample Run 2) For latest big games they only have 20~30 fps on ICS. I am not sure which game you are talking about
2. 512mb is rlly a bottleneck for ICS. Although I only have solely Firefox running, if I open 3 tabs, 2x will be laggy. However, it can handle multiple apps with low ram requirement. 2x has the strongest tegra2. T2 is good in gpu but weak in video format support at its times.
3. Just give u the Rom list link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042267. I am from China and I had been using the roms from angeeks forum and thus I am not familiar with the XDA roms.
4.depend on roms. I was using this thin ICS rom (http://bbs.angeeks.com/thread-2687721-1-1.html)modified by a Chinese. Free ram is ard 90MB after starting up
5. my highest is 7035 when locked @ 1Ghz

im8a said:
Lol I was using a 2x previously and now I have changed to xperia play to play emu games.
1. Yes for games with low requirements(e.g. Tample Run 2) For latest big games they only have 20~30 fps on ICS. I am not sure which game you are talking about
2. 512mb is rlly a bottleneck for ICS. Although I only have solely Firefox running, if I open 3 tabs, 2x will be laggy. However, it can handle multiple apps with low ram requirement. 2x has the strongest tegra2. T2 is good in gpu but weak in video format support at its times.
3. Just give u the Rom list link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042267. I am from China and I had been using the roms from angeeks forum and thus I am not familiar with the XDA roms.
4.depend on roms. I was using this thin ICS rom (http://bbs.angeeks.com/thread-2687721-1-1.html)modified by a Chinese. Free ram is ard 90MB after starting up
5. my highest is 7035 when locked @ 1Ghz
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mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play

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mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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Welcome. That's great! However, 4x's tegra3 is weak in gpu and may not be a good choice for gaming. You are keen in LG phones?

im8a said:
Welcome. That's great! However, 4x's tegra3 is weak in gpu and may not be a good choice for gaming. You are keen in LG phones?
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I'm not actually , but I'm pretty new in android , 5 months ago I had nokia n95 ) , then alcatel v860->i9000->xperia play now . I want to get something that will be very good in gaming (i like games very much heh) . But I don't have a large budget for phone I may be 150-200 euros for xperia play if i get someone to buy it , and may be put in some 50 euros at best . so 200-250 euros is my budget. I buy only second-hand phones cause it's better than buying new with this kind of money. You have any recomendations ? Also are there in that forum any good roms for xperia play ? It loads veeery slow for me (I'm in bucharest) and poor translations .

McXeno said:
I'm not actually , but I'm pretty new in android , 5 months ago I had nokia n95 ) , then alcatel v860->i9000->xperia play now . I want to get something that will be very good in gaming (i like games very much heh) . But I don't have a large budget for phone I may be 150-200 euros for xperia play if i get someone to buy it , and may be put in some 50 euros at best . so 200-250 euros is my budget. I buy only second-hand phones cause it's better than buying new with this kind of money. You have any recomendations ? Also are there in that forum any good roms for xperia play ? It loads veeery slow for me (I'm in bucharest) and poor translations .
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If you are not a core android fans and not keen in getting a gaming phone, I would recommand touch 5+another phone. Touch 5 has great spec and ios has great compatibility for apps.(Even the "oblique" touch4 can run most games and apps today though a lot are laggy due to only 256 mbram...) It can outweigh all android phones in almost all games in similar price range.
Maybe you can also consider Nvidia Shield(299 US Dollars) in near future, it might be a fantastic gaming gadget.
For xperia play, I am using AuroraPlay(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124442&nocache=1)

McXeno said:
mehh , ok so it's like our play just a bit better : dual-core a9 > single core scorpion. but adreno 205>geforce ulp and same ram but our play has the gamepad thingy so i'll stick with it untill i get some money and get lg 4x . Anyway thanks for response! Also that site looks intereseting maybe i find something cool for the play
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How come adreno 205 is better than our gpu?tegra 2 is of the same generation of adreno 220 and it is just a little weaker if i remember correctly.Anyway,if adreno 205 gpu was better,how could you possibly have less fps?
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___guilherme___ said:
How come adreno 205 is better than our gpu?tegra 2 is of the same generation of adreno 220 and it is just a little weaker if i remember correctly.Anyway,if adreno 205 gpu was better,how could you possibly have less fps?
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http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/