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Camera Photo Taking - Quality is bad

Hi fellows,
Anyone can elighten me here? when i use the camera and take a photo, when I go and view the photo, it is not the same quality I saw on the display, for some reason when the photo is saved, it is smudge, anyone encounter a similar situation? This happen more when photo is taken at night, it seems that the saving process damages the quality of the photo
Any feedback welcome
Thanks

First of all, appreciate that the size of the lens of the camera is so small, not so much light is going through it. So, especially at night, it will be hard to get nice pictures. This is not a camera with a phone, it is a phone with a camera!
Another issue is when you press the shutter release - squeezing your finger shakes the camera a bit, and this is something many camera users have to bear with. One idea is to use the timer for this instance, and place the Kaiser somewhere steady. Also, be aware that from the time you press the shutter release until it takes the picture does take longer than many dedicated cameras, so when you are doing your best to hold your camera still, be sure to do it long enough. I did that same error in the beginning, moving the camera even before it had taken the picture. Just keep it still for another second before you do anything else.

Poor Lighting
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
Any pictures I take outdoors with my Tilt turn out great. Actually the video recording is pretty damn good too. Indoors pictures tend to pickup a lot of "color noise" (Red, Green, Blue specs in the image) when taken.
I don't know which model phone you upgraded from, but another difference between the camera on the 8125 and the Tilt is that we now have an auto-focus lens, and that increases the time required to capture the image.
In the end, I am very satisfied with the camera on my Tilt, but as usual these comments based on my experiences only.

NotATreoFan said:
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
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I've taken photos in bright sunlight outside and still gotten grainy/noisy photos, so I agree the camera is worse than the Hermes/8525 even w/o flash.
Richard

I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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grizzley said:
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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See, that's what we're talking about - look at the sky?!?!?!?!? Yeah, cell phones are crappy cameras but WTF is that? Your subject shows it a little on things like the tree trunk, etc, but it's horrible artifacting
Richard

It's a cell phone... I was drinking.... It's only 3MP.
As far as I am concerned, it's a good camera. We are the newest owners of the latest technology that still needs to be fine tuned. How many other cell phones have 3MP cameras?

I think the camera is very good... MUCH better than many other phones I've seen......
Take a look at this samples with my kaiser..
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas1.zip
Set the quality to finest, and be quiet when you take the photo..

so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com

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so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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that's not completely true... ;-)
I was simply trying macro capabilities
But take a look to this other samples (landscapes)... remember this is not a canon EOS, but it is a great camera for a mobile phone!
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas2.zip

I think the tilt takes damn good pictures for a camera phone, but video recording is better on the 8525!

grizzley said:
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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Although only 2MP, the Hermes has a better camera. Here's one sample:

Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!

I think the best setting for the camera to take good pictures is @ 1600X1200, with quality set to fine.
Here are some of my pics:

grizzley said:
Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
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Yep, so coming from that to the Kaiser hurts. There's a lot more to a camera than Megapixels! Hopefully these Kaiser issues can be fixed either in firmware or with camera settings.... I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
Richard

Anyone who thinks the pictures taken by the 3.2MP camera on the Tytn II is even half decent has got rocks in there head. Take a look at some pictures taken with Sony Ericsons phones.
http://flickr.com/cameras/sonyericsson/
Nice landscape on a 3.2MP k800i
See what a good 2MP can do.(k750i/w800i)
I miss my k800i I lost that has now been replaced with a TytnII. The TytnII does a lot of great things the k800i did not but taken pictures is where the TytnII falls drastically short of the k800i and other SE phones.

The video is terrible. The 8525 camera was way better. When I try to record everything looks sluggish.

i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
o and here's my sample pics on modaco:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...n/260817/Sample-Pics-of-the-ATT-Tilt-Kaiser-/

mikeeey said:
i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
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Mine were not - I didn't see any reason to pay for another camera app on my Hermes.... if it really cleans up the Kaiser images, I could be convinced otherwise
Richard

rsolomon said:
I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
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This is the well-known adjustment on the Hermes camera that makes the difference between sh*tty and good photos. And in older Hermes ROMs, this setting is not saved so you have to adjust it everytime you start the camera. I use the lowest Sharpness setting also on my TyTN II but unfortunately it doesn't give the same improvement as on the Hermes, just a little better.

Crappy close up / zoomed i n camera quality?

So I love my nexus 6 and the quality of the camera taking normal distance shot is great but what not so great, at least for me, is the crappy quality of photos taken up close or zoomed in.
If I try to take a picture up close, it's blurry and doesn't focus. If I try to take a picture from a distance and try to zoom in to focus, it doesn't work either.
There are many circumstances that I need up close pictures taken such as when I use my fitnesspal app where I have to take shots of barcodes to add to my nutrition log. I also work In IT and use my phone to take pictures of the back of equipment in tight spaces such as the server room.
Does anyone else experience what I am experiencing with close up pictures not focusing?
Sent from my Nexus 6

Bump?
Sent from my Nexus 6

I wouldn't bump it if I were you. IMO, the people who own the device will most likely disagree with you to justify their purchase or haters will spread hate and will end up comparing it with other devices causing flame war.

first off, you have to stay back a few more inches on the nexus 6, about 7 inches or so. and dont zoom in, that automatically reduces the quality. you can crop it lateer, much better than zooming in. besides that, you have to touch to focus. tap where you would like the camera to focus, and thats where itll "focus"(quality will be better there)

I think the camera is pretty decent personally, it's not like the best on the market or anything. It surely is far from the worst though.

Yeah as mentioned, zoomed in pictures are always going to be crap. We don't have optical zoom, we have digital zoom. All digital zoom does is crop the image grabbed from the sensor in the middle and then blow it back up to the same size. You can reproduce this yourself in Microsoft Paint for example.
See below for example
Download this 500x450 image: http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/img/How_to/ha_Testing_lenses/high_acc_low_res.jpg
Open it in paint like this:
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Select a part of the picture in the middle...
Crop it...
Set the image size back to the original (or as close as you can get)...
Voila, poor quality image..

I'm a hobbyist photographer, have a degree in video production and work for a university doing this stuff. I will be honest that I have just gotten the Nexus 6 and haven't had a chance to really put the camera through its paces yet. But I can provide some general information that might help you understand what could be going on.
First of all, every lens has a minimum focusing distance. This is going to vary for each lens/camera. If the lens is closer to the object than this minimum focusing distance, then it can't find focus - the pieces of glass just don't have the room to move to the right place to focus. This is why people buy Macro lenses - they can focus a lot closer than other lenses. Now, I'm not saying buy a Macro lens. I'm just bringing that up for reference. There are Macro lenses you can buy for smartphones, but I never used any so I can't comment on what's good or if they're worth it. But this could help if it's that important to you. The only thing I will caution you with if you DO go for a macro lens is that these tend to provide a very shallow depth of field (blurry background/foreground is exaggerated). In a nutshell, this phone may not be able to focus on things very close.
With regards to zooming in - there's no real zoom on this camera or any released prior. Some new phones demonstrated at CES (or at least one) has a real zoom built in. What I mean is optical zoom. Optical zoom is the actual mechanical movement of the lens to zoom in on objects. So far, there has only been digital zoom. Digital zoom is no different than cropping. The problem with this is we have a fixed number of pixels for the image. When we crop or digitally zoom, we throw away a chunk of pixels on 3 or 4 of the sides we're zooming/cropping to and enlarging the remaining pixels. The more we zoom or crop, the lower the image quality becomes.
If you're scanning barcodes, I'd say perhaps you're doing it wrong. Most apps don't need to see this very close - it doesn't need to fill the entire screen. You can also indicate where to focus by tapping the screen what to focus on - this will help.

I've tried taking pictures close and from a distance with zoom. I just can't get it to focus quick enough to reaD barcodes.
Previous to my nexus 6 I was able to use my nexus 5 and iPhone 5s with ease. I literally would pull up the app, scan the barcode up close and it would read it instantly.
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I'm having the same issue. Even without digital zoom, any subject within about a foot and a half are fairly to completely blurry, getting worse the closer it gets. I understand lenses have limits with regard to focal distances, but as the phone attempts to focus, the subject becomes crystal clear once or twice before the autofocus settles on a blurry setting. So far I've tried clearing the cache and data and restoring the camera app to the factory settings. I've also tried a different camera app, but the same issue was still present.

dcsull said:
I'm having the same issue. Even without digital zoom, any subject within about a foot and a half are fairly to completely blurry, getting worse the closer it gets. I understand lenses have limits with regard to focal distances, but as the phone attempts to focus, the subject becomes crystal clear once or twice before the autofocus settles on a blurry setting. So far I've tried clearing the cache and data and restoring the camera app to the factory settings. I've also tried a different camera app, but the same issue was still present.
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why autofocus? itll focus on an average focus. if you want it focused right, then touch to focus.

Same problem happens with touch focus and average focus.

Dxo review is out

It's here https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/OnePlus-5-review-A-serious-shooter

ITT:
Dxo gives a good score: "Paid reviews lost all my respect for dxo, oneplus sucks"
Dxo gives a bad score: "Lol I knew this camera was crap, oneplus sucks"

ZakooZ said:
ITT:
Dxo gives a good score: "Paid reviews lost all my respect for dxo, oneplus sucks"
Dxo gives a bad score: "Lol I knew this camera was crap, oneplus sucks"
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Lol yeah, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...

https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/883001008191754240

I don't think they ever switched to 4k for video... Stabilization is ? on 4k right now

B3501 said:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/883001008191754240
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David R from Android Police thinks the score was bought. That's pretty damming!

XDA's take on it https://www.xda-developers.com/dxomark-reviews-oneplus-5-camera-quality-gives-it-a-score-of-87/

A question - is EIS enabled on 1080p at 60fps, only on 1080p at 30fps, or both?

mrasquinho said:
A question - is EIS enabled on 1080p at 60fps, only on 1080p at 30fps, or both?
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Have to say looking at the shot of the chap in the hat, the S8 looks superior in every way, it's a landslide.
for me the only problem with the camera is the lack of OIS, coming from the HTC 10 it's a noticeable loss.
Driving down the road (passenger) I can zoom and focus on an object in the distance with minimal effort and no wobble, the oneplus just can't do that, you would have to be gravity free and a dead object in order to get the same stability.
Other than that I think the camera is decent, oh and the odd weird water colour effect when zoomed in.
Might do a comparison video

To be expected, the camera certainly isn't exceptional but it still is pretty good. The big problem was that 1+ hyped up so much how good the camera was going to turn out to be that the expectations most people set out, weren't going to be met. But that's entirely 1+ fault for putting so much focus on promoting the camera.
The irony I find in all this is that had 1+ focused on a single lens camera, maybe they could have added hardware OIS, a larger pixel sensor and with the added bonus that they could have installed the display right side up, thus preventing the jelly effect some users experience. Considering the two highest scoring phones on DxOMark have single lens cameras, it's very probable that the camera could have turned out to be as good or even better than the U11 or Pixel.

coming from a note4
I was very impressed with tne oneplus5 in just about every way (the screen was just ok), except the camera. I wanted to keep this phone so badly, but in the end the camera just couldn't hold a candle to even my note4. I don't know if it's qualcomm's snapcam (running lineage right now) that makes it so good, but at full crop there is very little loss of detail, noise, and almost zero denoising artifact. I would snap the same subject with the oneplus5 and have to zoom out pretty far just to make the horrible noise and artifact bearable. If you don't ever zoom or crop, then the camera's pretty good. But if you routinely zoom the cam, or crop in on the pics after the fact, then this camera will disappoint. painfully so. I like the oneplus5 so much, in fact, that I'll keep an eye on it to see if there are improvements and am open to buying it again down the line.

I'll be perfectly honest. I love this phone. It kicks the crap out of my S8+ in so many ways. So much so that I'm trying to get rid of the S8+. I've got no issue with it and the photos are brilliant for my needs. However this score doesn't seem to fit.
And I don't know why anyone wants it to. You can't have a flagship level phone in ALL areas AND have it priced decently. Some people expect and want way too much out of OnePlus. OnePlus is alarmingly trying to cater to that. Stick with the original mission. Give us spec beasts with no bloat and none of the gimmicks. No one else does that. Most of us would rather you give us a powerhouse that does the intended job versus a bogged down wallet killer that takes photos on par with thousand dollar phones that we come to OnePlus seeking to avoid.
The camera is good. Great even. But it's not the best or within shooting (hah) range of it. It is what it should be. People are fine with that. People get pissed when it's hyped into something it's not and that they didn't expect out of you to begin with. That's your problem OnePlus.
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After reading the review, I'm not so surprised by the score.
They basically said that if you bring your tripod with you, you will get very good shots even in low light conditions but if you expect to take handled shots, the OP5 will end with blurry shots.
But DxO mostly doesn't care about handled performance because shots can't be perfectly reproduce so the score is fair considering their standards.
The only point where I strongly disagree is about video stabilisation.

Where they saw "good" photo quality, if in low light conditions OP5 do photos which we can rate to 0 score!

razholio said:
I was very impressed with tne oneplus5 in just about every way (the screen was just ok), except the camera. I wanted to keep this phone so badly, but in the end the camera just couldn't hold a candle to even my note4. I don't know if it's qualcomm's snapcam (running lineage right now) that makes it so good, but at full crop there is very little loss of detail, noise, and almost zero denoising artifact. I would snap the same subject with the oneplus5 and have to zoom out pretty far just to make the horrible noise and artifact bearable. If you don't ever zoom or crop, then the camera's pretty good. But if you routinely zoom the cam, or crop in on the pics after the fact, then this camera will disappoint. painfully so. I like the oneplus5 so much, in fact, that I'll keep an eye on it to see if there are improvements and am open to buying it again down the line.
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I'm with you. I snatched a 128GB Pixel for $510 on Swappa, so I'm sending the OP5 back this weekend. But I would buy down the road if it get dramatically better through updates, or the 5T brings OIS and better post-processing.

So, the OP5 camera (87) is better than the iPhone 7 (86) and almost as good as the Galaxy S8 (88)?
What.

I can't belive it because g4 has superior quality in crops:
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OP just upped the camera game. Now samsung, htc and google have to catch up

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...plus-5-camera-improvement-partnership-dxomark

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I have 3 phones atm - Note 20 Ultra, P30 Pro (global), and Xiaomi Mi Note 9S w/GCAM. I never imagined the N20U would be able to match the camera quality of Mi Note 9S w/ GCAM, however after taking some daytime and also low light photography, N20U takes the best pics out of all three of my phones. Even night mode. However, I don't like the all white balance, and even though you can change that in Pro Mode, when you take pictures in Auto Mode, I hate the color that all Samsung phones give out, and prefer iPhones and Huawei phone color temperatures / hues. Also, there were certain scenarios (although not many), where the P30 Pro or the Note 9S w/GCAM took better pics, but that's expected. N20U took better pics than both of the other phones 75-90% of the time, even night time photography

it's all subjective. You like it 75-90% of the time. It doesn't mean 75-90% of everyone else will like it 75-90% of the time. With camera modules basically being made all by Sony or Samsung, they all look the same. besides, I haven't known anyone to print their pics. it's being compressed or filtered onto VSCO or IG anyway does it really matter? Just take your picture and be happy with it. Unless you have a 99 dollar tracphone, it's the same quality...and even if you do have that $99 tracphone, your grandma can't tell what phone it was taken on when you post it on fb.

skoobz said:
... With camera modules basically being made all by Sony or Samsung, they all look the same ... Unless you have a 99 dollar tracphone, it's the same quality.
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Software & image processing makes an immense difference - hence the constant desperation for broken GCam ports.
As a S20 Ultra owner - that phone has supposedly great hardware but has demonstrably awful image processing in a myriad of everyday situations (it's still way below par compared to its peers, after all the updates).
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On topic, the processing on the Note 20 Ultra is significantly better than my S20U in basically every scenario & camera mode I tried it in, including Low Light (my S20U's photos look like watercolor messes in comparison). The S20U only takes passable images with bright sunlight or sunlight-equivalent indoor lights. It fails miserably at processing images the dimmer the lighting gets, which I didn't find to be a problem on the S20U out-of-the-gate on Auto mode.
Can they bring the software updates to the S20U?

The Note 20 Ultra camera is identical to the S20 Ultra.
Low light on the S20 Ultra is better.
Clearly there needs to be an update for the Note 20 Ultra.
And like the S20 Ultra, it's impossible to take a picture of a document and have clear text across the frame.
Hopefully they go back to the drawing board for the S30 and choose a different sensor/lens combo.
The iPhone 12 camera is going to blow this one away as the 11 Pro is already better.

auto low light example that's lit by LEDs. Not bad.
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it's all subjective. You like it 75-90% of the time. It doesn't mean 75-90% of everyone else will like it 75-90% of the time. With camera modules basically being made all by Sony or Samsung, they all look the same. besides, I haven't known anyone to print their pics. it's being compressed or filtered onto VSCO or IG anyway does it really matter? Just take your picture and be happy with it. Unless you have a 99 dollar tracphone, it's the same quality...and even if you do have that $99 tracphone, your grandma can't tell what phone it was taken on when you post it on fb.
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Actually even with same cameras and sensors, you can have Vastly different output. Just look at Pixel phones, alot of other manufacturers use the same exact sensor however its the software engineering that makes pixel phones take great pics. You just sound like an argumentative person, I was just providing my personal experience, and never mentioned that other people's experience would be the same

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Actually even with same cameras and sensors, you can have Vastly different output. Just look at Pixel phones, alot of other manufacturers use the same exact sensor however its the software engineering that makes pixel phones take great pics. You just sound like an argumentative person, I was just providing my personal experience, and never mentioned that other people's experience would be the same
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cool story bro. fact remains, still looks the same when filters are applied and compressed when posted on social media.

Mi 10 Ultra - dimensions needed to clear the ultrawide lens field of view.

FYI, on the Mi 10 Ultra, this should be the clearance you will need to have for phone clamps and gimbals if you don't want them to appear in the shot of the ultrawide camera.
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Phone clamps will have to be mounted off-center to the right.
It's possible that the only way to mount this in a gimbal without getting part of the clamp or gimbal in the shot would likely be to use a tray-style gimbal (not a clamp style ie. DJI Osmo 2/3, Zhiyun Smooth X, Hohem iSteady X, etc.) with a way to offset the phone or add counterweights.
I'm eager to hear about personal experiences with gimbals on this phone though!

We still don't know if the geometric center is the center of gravity though. I wonder if the battery weight could move the center of gravity away from the camera system.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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We still don't know if the geometric center is the center of gravity though. I wonder if the battery weight could move the center of gravity away from the camera system.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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The geometric center is almost assuredly not the center of gravity. Most every other phone has the center of gravity towards the charging port (right side in the diagram) but the huge problems with the Mi 10 Ultra are that:
- The ultrawide lens is the lens closest to the center of the phone, which is an incredibly stupid thing for Xiaomi to do. They've done the same on the Mi 9 and other Mi 10 phones as well, so this isn't new or special for Xiaomi. It's a dumb design flaw that has persisted across multiple iterations of their phones.
- The ultrawide lens is the widest ultrawide on any smartphone right now.
- Any infringement on the ultrawide will be occurring on the horizontal side of videos shot in landscape orientation, so you don't be able to crop in without losing a ton of resolution and field of view.

You see why I'm interested in:
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So, 8k on every lens except for the 2x?
Any info on the bitrate, fps, manual mode for 8k?
Do you think the phone could be balanced on a gimbal and UW be used in 8k?
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And we're back to my solution - shooting in 8k UW, zooming, cropping and producing 4k.
Probably not the best for anyone but I'm currently working that way. Using a phone as a B cam, shooting in 4k and cropping but, as you can imagine, quality is far from perfect.
That's why I so hope Mi 10 ultra shoots high quality UW 8k and gives me some control over the process.

neverthemore said:
You see why I'm interested in:
And we're back to my solution - shooting in 8k UW, zooming, cropping and producing 4k.
Probably not the best for anyone but I'm currently working that way. Using a phone as a B cam, shooting in 4k and cropping but, as you can imagine, quality is far from perfect.
That's why I so hope Mi 10 ultra shoots high quality UW 8k and gives me some control over the process.
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8k is not available on the ultrawide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/com...c2qct?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I have been using this for a week and had no problems with it. Exaggeration that u need to hold it awkwardly or fingers will be in the viewfinder.

Thanks for the clarification. Did you try to mount it in a gimbal and shooting UW?

neverthemore said:
Thanks for the clarification. Did you try to mount it in a gimbal and shooting UW?
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I don't have the phone, but just by looking at the measurements I can't imagine how any gimbal could work on this with the ultrawide. If it's not the clamp and roll motor immediately getting into the view, the tilt motor probably would.
I'm also unable to find any videos shot on YouTube with the ultrawide and a gimbal for any of the previous Xiaomi phones with their ultrawide in a similar position on the phone.

I don't understand gimbals much because I never looked into them but based on the above info: when you need a gimbal, would it be possible to attach a removable lead or iron weight to the bottom of the phone to bring the center of gravity way towards that end?

Impossible to use with a gimbal
I bought the mi 10 ultra due to the wider opening angle of the market in wide camera. I tested all the shooting modes and in all of them there is a specific phone stabilization system EXCEPT the video made with the wide camera, which makes the use of the gimbal mandatory if you want a stable video. But the wide camera is in the MIDDLE of the device, that is, the arm and the motor of the gimbal cover all the video on the right side of the scene. Some users are saying to crop the video, but crop videos do not require the gimbal, yet if you want to use it, the gimbal still appears.

mfmach said:
I bought the mi 10 ultra due to the wider opening angle of the market in wide camera. I tested all the shooting modes and in all of them there is a specific phone stabilization system EXCEPT the video made with the wide camera, which makes the use of the gimbal mandatory if you want a stable video. But the wide camera is in the MIDDLE of the device, that is, the arm and the motor of the gimbal cover all the video on the right side of the scene. Some users are saying to crop the video, but crop videos do not require the gimbal, yet if you want to use it, the gimbal still appears.
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Which gimbal are you using??