Question Is there a way to get rid of all the Google DARK UX pushy feathures? - Google Pixel 7

Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?

Fennec23 said:
I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
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Congrats on buying the Google phone then.
If you want to deactivate system apps enable developer settings, enable ADB, connect your phone to your PC and disable Google Lens and Google Search system apps / packages using Universal Android Debloater GUI and maybe other googly bloat.
Want to have more privacy? Learn about flashing your phone, unlock the bootloader, flash Graphene OS, Calyx OS, Lineage OS or something like that.
Maybe root your device and block trackers and stuff using Adaway. Or stay unrooted and use something like personalDNSfilter.

Maybe selling it is a good choice for you

Fennec23 said:
Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?
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All of that spyware crap is preinstalled on ALL android phones, not just pixel. They're a bit more in your face on pixel maybe though, since gooble is showcasing it there.
My recommendation would be to switch to grapheneOS. If you absolutely MUST use proprietary gooble bits, grapheneos implements a unique compatibility layer to cause it all to run as a conventional user-installed application instead of demanding excessive permissions.

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Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????

Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
come on guys....
Call him a dumbfuck. Alternatively, ask him what exactly what these "good things" are that you need to root to access. Multi-tasking? Yeah, been able to do that since forever. Customization? Same. Install a home replacement. Wallpapers? Ditto. The latest iPhone OS only brought to the table features Android has been able to do out of the box from the beginning. Flash? Get your Froyo on via official OTA, no need to root.
Oh, and ask him what he can do with an unjailbroken iPhone. Out of the box, it's a crippled piece of ****.
You can do a lot of "good" things to your phone without rooting.
With froyo comes the LED flashlight and tethering.
Ask him if he can tether or install 3rd party apps (w/o iTunes) without jailbreaking his iPhone and see what he says
lol thanks guys...keep it coming!!!
I have to answer this question at least once or twice a week when asked by many of my co-workers who gave up their crackberries for android. I give them the basics: Overclocking, undervolting, unrestricted tethering etc....But it's best put this way: Imagine having a car that can do 150 MPH but its restricted to 60 MPH. You may not have to go over 60 MPH but you should be able to if needed right? I hacked every smartphone I have owned because I refuse to get less than what my money is worth. If your heart pumps kool-aid or you like being pimped by manufacturers/service providers, then don't jailbreak/root.
JDMSirEK4 said:
Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
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Tell him it's actually the opposite. Personally I could NOT use an iPhone if it wasn't Jailbroken. This is coming from someone who used an iPhone 3GS for 10 months exclusively. Personally iPhone jailbroken is pretty good. It's pretty useless without jailbreaking, turning on/off wifi/gps/bt, is slow, multitasking, folders/categories/contact picture hack, better sms app, etc..etc..
Ask him to load up some widgets, live wallpapers, google Nav. etc etc etc.
... there's a reason they call it "JAILBREAKING" and "ROOTING".
Jailbreaking = iPhone is useless without it, a lonely condemned soul waiting to be released. And even after you jailbreak it, it's horny, hungry and dumb as hell.
Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Honestly, the flashlight was the only real reason I ended up rooting. I've since installed other root-only apps, but they do have non-root equivalents.
duh to load custom roms
Be able to uninstall Twitter is all the reason I need to root. Seriously Google, stop doing that, if I want it I'll go find it. Don't start messing your phones up like AT&T does.

What would make you want an iPhone?

Don't rip my head off for this one.
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
My question is this -
Hypothetically, if the iPhone had a 5" screen, and allowed widgets and launchers, what would you need the iPhone to have in order for you to switch?
I don't think I would switch because I love the look of android, but I feel like I'm waiting for the OS to unify better between OEM makers, and that doesn't seem to be in the near future. I'm jut curious about everyone else's thoughts.
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iOS suckssss. Its boring. There's no customizability. The hardware is nice though, but android manufacturers are now starting to also make some really nice hardware as well.
Only way I'd take iPhone is if I could flash KitKat on it.
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Nothing would make me want an iPhone. Not now not ever. That thing is insanely pointless, and has crappy software with random bugs. Not even the hardware is good and it costs a fortune.
I'd guess making expensive apps so all the rich and upper middle class people would buy them.. Cause rich people constantly know nothing about technology and populate themselves with iDevices just because they think it's good because it's expensive and popular.
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1) Android
2) redesign
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When google buys apple.
ej8989 said:
When google buys apple.
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If that happens, hope they sell beats.
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justinisloco said:
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
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You could have used Google Voice app to text (SMS) your friends (regardless of whether they had iMessage or Hangouts installed), and could have used hangouts/skype for video chatting.
Work Emails, well, yeah, that sucks, My employer (over 75000 employees worldwide) doesn't have an Android app to access the secure network. When some employees (on a quarterly call with a few thousand employees) asked a senior VP "Why no android app", he responded, and I quote, "because as you all know, Android is so easily hacked, and is insecure". Numbnuts!
Yes, I (along with several others) sent Emails to him explaining the facts (and he said that he'll talk to the IT team to see what was needed to get an Android app developed), but the point is that Android development has been on the backburner for many corporations for many (stupid) reasons.
Would I switch to iPhone? If they provided the ability to use launchers/widgets, *and* the ability to sideload apps, *and* the ability to install adaway type apps, *and* the ability to use tasker type app, and they had the screen size that I wanted, and had deep Google Now integration, sure, why not... It would just be another "Android" phone by that time
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You could have used Google Voice app to text (SMS) your friends (regardless of whether they had iMessage or Hangouts installed), and could have used hangouts/skype for video chatting.
Work Emails, well, yeah, that sucks, My employer (over 75000 employees worldwide) doesn't have an Android app to access the secure network. When some employees (on a quarterly call with a few thousand employees) asked a senior VP "Why no android app", he responded, and I quote, "because as you all know, Android is so easily hacked, and is insecure". Numbnuts!
Yes, I (along with several others) sent Emails to him explaining the facts (and he said that he'll talk to the IT team to see what was needed to get an Android app developed), but the point is that Android development has been on the backburner for many corporations for many (stupid) reasons.
Would I switch to iPhone? If they provided the ability to use launchers/widgets, *and* the ability to sideload apps, *and* the ability to install adaway type apps, *and* the ability to use tasker type app, and they had the screen size that I wanted, and had deep Google Now integration, sure, why not... It would just be another "Android" phone by that time
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See, that's the beauty and beast about android. I love that you can sideload or install an app to do what you want to do, but I don't like the fact that its not integrated better. That's the thing that made me (consider) the iPhone.
For things that I really wish Google would do, is force OEM makers to do specific things to the OS of the phone. For example, integrate hangouts as the main texting app, that way we android users can hangout with each other. The user can download their own texting app if they choose, but at least make the stock one hangouts. Because almost all my android friends have Samsung's, and I have yet to see hangouts being used by them.
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justinisloco said:
See, that's the beauty and beast about android. I love that you can sideload or install an app to do what you want to do, but I don't like the fact that its not integrated better. That's the thing that made me (consider) the iPhone.
For things that I really wish Google would do, is force OEM makers to do specific things to the OS of the phone. For example, integrate hangouts as the main texting app, that way we android users can hangout with each other. The user can download their own texting app if they choose, but at least make the stock one hangouts. Because almost all my android friends have Samsung's, and I have yet to see hangouts being used by them.
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Thing is, some people (me included) like the fact that Google doesn't (yet) force me to use a specific app for a specific purpose. Samsung/HTC and others do bundle their own apps (that can't be uninstalled), and most users call that bloat.
It is rumored that Google will bring VoIP calling capability to Hangouts in the near future (as it did for iOS last year). Once that happens, I would expect more users would install Hangouts (even if it wasn't installed by default). Whether they use it as their texting app would depend on them, but at least you would still be able to use video hangouts with your friends then.
About your first few statements - what is not integrated? From what I know about iOS, Google's integration is just as good (if not better), without taking away the ability of the user to choose a different app for a specific need. Unlike iOS, Android allows you to choose the default app for any action. In my opinion, that provides the best integration.
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Thing is, some people (me included) like the fact that Google doesn't (yet) force me to use a specific app for a specific purpose. Samsung/HTC and others do bundle their own apps (that can't be uninstalled), and most users call that bloat.
It is rumored that Google will bring VoIP calling capability to Hangouts in the near future (as it did for iOS last year). Once that happens, I would expect more users would install Hangouts (even if it wasn't installed by default). Whether they use it as their texting app would depend on them, but at least you would still be able to use video hangouts with your friends then.
About your first few statements - what is not integrated? From what I know about iOS, Google's integration is just as good (if not better), without taking away the ability of the user to choose a different app for a specific need. Unlike iOS, Android allows you to choose the default app for any action. In my opinion, that provides the best integration.
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The default app switching is the biggest part keeping me where I belong. I know I switched to am iPhone for a week and it was the worst.
This Whole thread, by the way, is not to convince me to keep my phone. I love this phone, but just was curious what would make you hardcore android fans switch.
Edit -as far as the bloat, its not bloat I'm talking about, I meant specifically the text app
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Hmm, to be honest, an iPhone with 5" screen and widgets/launchers would probably be enough for me to make the switch. Although the OS would still be very "limited" compared to Android, I don't think I would be too bothered about it. It simply just works better and smoother than Android does or will. People can post benchmarks all they want, or videos comparing app opening times which in reality don't mean that much, but the fact is, the overall experience is a lot smoother on iOS. Even Nexus 5 still lags and stutters when scrolling which is pretty amazing considering the hardware that is inside.
Hangouts comes preinstalled on any Android device that has the Play Store now (I believe... but at least the big flagships like the Galaxy S5, HTC One, Nexus 5, etc...). Your friends may not use it, but it's there :laugh: I think it's been said, but the only reason iMessage/Facetime seems more integrated is that Apple forces you to use it. If Google changed it so that all Android phones had to use Hangouts and alternatives couldn't be installed by the user (there are alternatives for the iPhone, but you need to jailbreak and use Cydia to install them), then I'm sure all of your friends would be using Hangouts. But you'd also upset a lot of Android users who like the choice.
I do think it's ridiculous that Hangouts for iPhone has voice call capability while Hangouts for Android does not.
Anyway, to get me to switch there would need to be a lot of changes. Bigger screen, better support for alternative apps (SMS, dialer, browsers that aren't just interface swaps with the same backend, launcher, etc...), a more complete interface overhaul, access to apps installed from outside the app store (without jailbreaking), NFC support, something like Tasker...
In my country where many people are switching to android, they still don't use Hangout. It all depends on the messing service that is used by all and that's WhatsApp here.
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Hangouts comes preinstalled on any Android device that has the Play Store now (I believe... but at least the big flagships like the Galaxy S5, HTC One, Nexus 5, etc...). Your friends may not use it, but it's there :laugh: I think it's been said, but the only reason iMessage/Facetime seems more integrated is that Apple forces you to use it. If Google changed it so that all Android phones had to use Hangouts and alternatives couldn't be installed by the user (there are alternatives for the iPhone, but you need to jailbreak and use Cydia to install them), then I'm sure all of your friends would be using Hangouts. But you'd also upset a lot of Android users who like the choice.
I do think it's ridiculous that Hangouts for iPhone has voice call capability while Hangouts for Android does not.
Anyway, to get me to switch there would need to be a lot of changes. Bigger screen, better support for alternative apps (SMS, dialer, browsers that aren't just interface swaps with the same backend, launcher, etc...), a more complete interface overhaul, access to apps installed from outside the app store (without jailbreaking), NFC support, something like Tasker...
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I think it would be nice to force that as the stock messaging app, but give users the choice to change it via the market. But that way, my not so techy friends can actually start using hangouts with integration and the techy ones can figure out how to use other messaging apps if they prefer.
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justinisloco said:
I think it would be nice to force that as the stock messaging app, but give users the choice to change it via the market. But that way, my not so techy friends can actually start using hangouts with integration and the techy ones can figure out how to use other messaging apps if they prefer.
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Well, that's how Google handles the Nexus phones, but that's far more control than they have exerted on manufacturer skinned phones. Samsung already doesn't like that they need to include all of the Google apps (apart from the play store) alongside their own, I think that enforcing that they be the default would cause an issue. Especially with Samsung's market share of Android phones.
what would make me want an iphone...hmm...maybe if it wasnt an iphone...that is all.
They'd have to become fully open source for me to even think about it and even then.. Na shock treatment is the only way. ;P Females tend to prefer iphones more than males i think. At least more females that I know use them vs males who i know and they will NOT switch.. My wife, ex now had to have one so i bought her one when we were together. Wasn't impressed with anything but the camera and now Android is just as good in that department.. Android rules!! \m/ Been with Android since the G1.. I have so much love and respect for open source and the customization of Android blows apple off the map.. We can tweak our devices 100% with root, custom roms, kernels and themes.. Aosp is just too great imo.
There are so many apps im sure you can find something that will get the job done..
A great story buy one cool guy... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wYgofunq3OE
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justinisloco said:
Don't rip my head off for this one.
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
My question is this -
Hypothetically, if the iPhone had a 5" screen, and allowed widgets and launchers, what would you need the iPhone to have in order for you to switch?
I don't think I would switch because I love the look of android, but I feel like I'm waiting for the OS to unify better between OEM makers, and that doesn't seem to be in the near future. I'm jut curious about everyone else's thoughts.
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The ability to obtain root access through means other than exploits that Apple patches as fast as they can. If that were possible, along with some more customization, I might consider it. And a price drop. Way too expensive.
Nothing...ever. Even if it was free. Lol
This is not related to the nexus 5 at all
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Android without Google?

Hi all,
Just curious to see if many people out there are running there device without loading up Google services or apps. It interests me to think, what the device would run like if perhaps had alternatives to the Google framework running constantly and other apps in the place of Gmail,Maps etc.....
I see that someone has already attempted this:
http://android.izzysoft.de/articles/named/android-without-google-1
What are peoples thoughts, anyone tried this on our Shamu?
Thanks for posting this. That's an interesting article you attached. And yes I am interested in android without Google.
I had considered Ubuntu Touch, but the only phone it's relatively well developed for is the Nexus 4.
It would be interesting if a Dev would pick up Ubuntu Touch development for our device.
question go into the q&a section, not into general. ill ask a mod to move it there.
cam30era said:
Thanks for posting this. That's an interesting article you attached. And yes I am interested in android without Google.
I had considered Ubuntu Touch, but the only phone it's relatively well developed for is the Nexus 4.
It would be interesting if a Dev would pick up Ubuntu Touch development for our device.
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I am indeed really curious to try this out sometime...
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Moved now
I don't see the point to be honest. Its nothing I want to try.
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator. The article starts by pointing out Google knows what pics you have in your Gmail. This is true. Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data. There's an old adage "stick with the devil know". Don't get me wrong, I mistrust Google and all tech companies, so I keep my music/pics/movies/media on my own servers that I control, not on theirs. Email is too difficult to manage without some help, so they still get that.
All that being said, the easiest way to remove Google would be to build an AOSP rom for your device and don't install the GAPPS package. The device feels like a connected smart calculator, though, and they know it, so there in lies the trade off you're making with them.
crachel said:
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator. The article starts by pointing out Google knows what pics you have in your Gmail. This is true. Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data. There's an old adage "stick with the devil know". Don't get me wrong, I mistrust Google and all tech companies, so I keep my music/pics/movies/media on my own servers that I control, not on theirs. Email is too difficult to manage without some help, so they still get that.
All that being said, the easiest way to remove Google would be to build an AOSP rom for your device and don't install the GAPPS package. The device feels like a connected smart calculator, though, and they know it, so there in lies the trade off you're making with them.
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I feel the same. Everyone thinks that Google are reading our emails and watching our every move. In reality our emails are indexed (err... That's how SEARCH works) and the data that is collected is fed into a matrix to allow Google to sell advertising based on the fact they can target their campaigns... Its hardly evil. Its not like humans are (or even can) read the data...
Facebook is much more evil, and I let them have data.
crachel said:
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator. The article starts by pointing out Google knows what pics you have in your Gmail. This is true. Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data. There's an old adage "stick with the devil know". Don't get me wrong, I mistrust Google and all tech companies, so I keep my music/pics/movies/media on my own servers that I control, not on theirs. Email is too difficult to manage without some help, so they still get that.
All that being said, the easiest way to remove Google would be to build an AOSP rom for your device and don't install the GAPPS package. The device feels like a connected smart calculator, though, and they know it, so there in lies the trade off you're making with them.
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I feel the same. Everyone thinks that Google are reading our emails and watching our every move. In reality our emails are indexed (err... That's how SEARCH works) and the data that is collected is fed into a matrix to allow Google to sell advertising based on the fact they can target their campaigns... Its hardly evil. Its not like humans are (or even can) read the data...
Facebook is much more evil, and I let them have data.
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Agreed guys.
My curiosity lays in the potential any of any performance gains could be had, what with the occurrence of play services drains etc.
Like you say though, perhaps better the devil we know...
cd993 said:
Agreed guys.
My curiosity lays in the potential any of any performance gains could be had, what with the occurrence of play services drains etc.
Like you say though, perhaps better the devil we know...
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It could be worth a play for those reasons. Your OP did seem to point towards performance, until the link
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It could be worth a play for those reasons. Your OP did seem to point towards performance, until the link
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Aye it's the performance I'm intrigued by....
"Instead of being run-down to ~50% or less at the end of the day, my battery usually has 70%+ of its juice left when placed into its cradle at night, without me changing „my device usage patterns“.
I love flashing custom roms, currently I am on temasek cm12.1. With recent google play service updates I have fell victim to wakelocks etc. caused. I have seemed to put them at bay with disabling services however it makes me wonder, could I live without the google integration? For me, I use gmail, browser and contacts sync - but perhaps if I were to debloat all google services, could this be of benefit?
Who knows, it may all be a waste of time, but it could be fun to try at least!
Perhaps we could start listing applications which would still allow us to get things done, let's say's say an alternative maps app, email etc.
Interesting reads....
http://knitatoms.net/2014/02/android-without-google-apps/
http://www.itworld.com/article/2832391/mobile/can-an-android-phone-run-without-google-.html
Check these too!
http://0p.no/2014/10/16/nogapps___a_replacement_for_gapps.html
This guy went for it!
http://www.augmentedmind.de/en/articles/android-without-google.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
I am pretty sure taking Google out of the equation is Cyanogens master plan. Partnering with companies like Amazon and Microsoft to facilitate applications and services Google provides.
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DebianDog said:
I am pretty sure taking Google out of the equation is Cyanogens master plan. Partnering with companies like Amazon and Microsoft to facilitate applications and services Google provides.
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http://www.slashgear.com/cyanogens-next-step-a-blu-phone-without-google-apps-24375192/
DebianDog said:
I am pretty sure taking Google out of the equation is Cyanogens master plan. Partnering with companies like Amazon and Microsoft to facilitate applications and services Google provides.
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Yeah but that's not for performance or data protection reasons. Its most likely so they can provide a self_contained product without the need for gapps
If you want to run Android without google applications, just pull and build from AOSP, and DON'T install any google application.
As far as what you will be missing.... play store (obviously). The only other "useful" google service that I can think of, is hangouts (voice/video calls over data network), and maybe some data sync like contacts. I can't stand google maps software, and typically disable it anyway. Copilot works much better (no data sucking on the road where cell service may not even be available), and if you need actual google maps..... they do have a website for it.
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Yeah but that's not for performance or data protection reasons. Its most likely so they can provide a self_contained product without the need for gapps
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I totally agree with your reasoning here.
Because, no one is going to claim better performance on a device without Google's services when after substituting another set of services to perform the same missing functions, the user is left with the similar performance hit.
I.E. - "Damn Cynanogen OS, all those MS services are eating up my RAM and bogging down my phone" ....
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I totally agree with your reasoning here.
Because, no one is going to claim better performance on a device without Google's services when after substituting another set of services to perform the same missing functions, the user is left with the similar performance hit.
I.E. - "Damn Cynanogen OS, all those MS services are eating up my RAM and bogging down my phone" ....
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Possibly worse performance. If you think about it, Google all ties in together and shares data between each other, where as if you had multiple vendors all syncing, that's got to be worse
crachel said:
In my opinion, all the guy in that article you linked is doing is trading a crocodile for an alligator.
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A baby alligator, maybe, yes
crachel said:
Then the author proceeds to recommend "App Replacements" that include all different sorts of closed-source apps of unknown origin. Why? At least I know roughly what Google is doing. I have no idea whatsoever what, say, the developer of the maps apps he suggests are going to do with my location data.
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I recommend open source alternatives wherever possible. But true, sometimes there are pretty good (or better) alternatives that are not. Feel free to ask specific questions. As for the maps apps: they usually don't collect location data (though they possibly could; but I know e.g. the dev of Locus Maps being quite privacy aware). Don't mix sheep with oxens: what collects those are not the maps apps, but e.g. the network location ("to improve service quality – and 'other things'"). And for that the series recommends OpenCellID – all going local on the device and you can check that (open source).
There are other things to gain: spreading your data across multiple providers versus having them concentrated in one hand makes "profiling" harder, for example. Or as a recent article on German's c't (computer+technic; unfortunately, the graphs are not online) showed: Much decreased network traffic, hence your data plan and your battery last longer :angel:
Disclosure: Yes, I'm "the guy" behind that article (and the one running that site). And yes, that Milestone still runs that way – and except for GCM there's not really anything I miss. Still.

Bye, Apple... Welcome back, beloved Android! -- Doubts inside!

Good afternoon, guys!
After almost two years enjoying an Iphone X and also liking the experience with an XR for work reasons, I decided to move back to Android. Following the guidance in this forum, I bought a 512gb Samsung S10 Plus... And so far I have ejoyed the speed, camera and screen. I left iOS because of the lack of additional storage, the non-renovated-in-years look and feel, and the problems sharing documents with anything that is not Apple.*
Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that make me miss iOS, and I would love to know if any of you know how to help. I cannot think about a better place to ask than in the Android forum by excellence
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
luismix said:
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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welcome back to the fray!!
1: boarding pass wallet
2: nope
3: pushbullet
4: nope
5: not sure, would probably take some tweaking, but its just not as slick in android
6: Samsung Pay or Google Pay. I have a gear S3 frontier and it has a radio in it that makes it superior to iwatches and any other samsung watch, it can emulate a physical card swipe and doesnt rely strictly on NFC. Ive had soooooooo many clerks say to me "that doesnt work her......." and when they stop talking and look at their register with surprise that it worked, i then say "yes it does" with a slick smile on my face
youdoofus said:
welcome back to the fray!!
1: boarding pass wallet
2: nope
3: pushbullet
4: nope
5: not sure, would probably take some tweaking, but its just not as slick in android
6: Samsung Pay or Google Pay. I have a gear S3 frontier and it has a radio in it that makes it superior to iwatches and any other samsung watch, it can emulate a physical card swipe and doesnt rely strictly on NFC. Ive had soooooooo many clerks say to me "that doesnt work her......." and when they stop talking and look at their register with surprise that it worked, i then say "yes it does" with a slick smile on my face
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HAhahah! Thanks so much! Love the last phrase
I'll donwload Boarding Pass Wallet and Pushbullet (I remember that last one from my S7 edge). In Spain it seems like Samsung and Google have different cards one from each other and it makes it complicated. F.E. Samsung in Spain does not accept AMEX!
luismix said:
HAhahah! Thanks so much! Love the last phrase
I'll donwload Boarding Pass Wallet and Pushbullet (I remember that last one from my S7 edge). In Spain it seems like Samsung and Google have different cards one from each other and it makes it complicated. F.E. Samsung in Spain does not accept AMEX!
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Thanks!! and dude, even here in the septics (USA) amex is a complete PITA. its hit and miss at best for places that accept it. A few jobs ago, my bonuses were loaded on an amex card and i had over 3k on it and couldnt even buy gas in minnesota
youdoofus said:
Thanks!! and dude, even here in the septics (USA) amex is a complete PITA. its hit and miss at best for places that accept it. A few jobs ago, my bonuses were loaded on an amex card and i had over 3k on it and couldnt even buy gas in minnesota
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crazy! In London 75% of the places accept AMEX but in Spain is not so easy. I thought the US would be the best place to have an AMEX!
luismix said:
crazy! In London 75% of the places accept AMEX but in Spain is not so easy. I thought the US would be the best place to have an AMEX!
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right??? yeah, i tried a couple jewelry stores, clothing stores, grocery, hardware, tons of places in the mall of america (for a very long time, this was the largest mall on the planet) and it was hit n miss at very best. I eventually found a place that would let me withdraw the cash with a very small penalty. I went to doing that every so often to avoid the hassle LoL
1. No idea
2. Vivid Navigation, (Because you can use tap gestures.) experiment with this app, you'll enjoy it. I felt like I missed iPX gestures, but then I got used to using Vivid NG and now going back to iPhone gestures seem slow and require more effort. I use tap gestures along the bottom arranged how the navbar buttons are, and then swipe gestures on the side. You can also use swipe up on each section to bring up Bottom Quick settings (I bound to the right section), Launchboard bound to swipe up in the middle and Notification panel on the left section.
3/4: Use EasyJoin, it uses Wifi Direct which is what Airdrop is. It also allows you to answer phonecalls from your pc and control your SMS.
5. You can try changing animation durations and revoking usage data access to wellbeing, you'll notice it's a lot more fluid. If you root, install FDE AI, made a huuge difference for me.
6. Google pay. If you're rooted use magisk hide and the script for google pay to use it while rooted.
Chocolatetrain said:
1. No idea
2. Vivid Navigation, (Because you can use tap gestures.) experiment with this app, you'll enjoy it. I felt like I missed iPX gestures, but then I got used to using Vivid NG and now going back to iPhone gestures seem slow and require more effort. I use tap gestures along the bottom arranged how the navbar buttons are, and then swipe gestures on the side. You can also use swipe up on each section to bring up Bottom Quick settings (I bound to the right section), Launchboard bound to swipe up in the middle and Notification panel on the left section.
3/4: Use EasyJoin, it uses Wifi Direct which is what Airdrop is. It also allows you to answer phonecalls from your pc and control your SMS.
5. You can try changing animation durations and revoking usage data access to wellbeing, you'll notice it's a lot more fluid. If you root, install FDE AI, made a huuge difference for me.
6. Google pay. If you're rooted use magisk hide and the script for google pay to use it while rooted.
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Awesome! I changed animations and it indeed improved the performance. Regarding Google Pay, it's good but not perfect. Vivid Navigator looks promising but needs a PC to hide the Navigation Bar, so I'll need to check later at home
Regarding EasyJoin, I am using AirDroid and it seems to work well... For now!
luismix said:
Good afternoon, guys!
After almost two years enjoying an Iphone X and also liking the experience with an XR for work reasons, I decided to move back to Android. Following the guidance in this forum, I bought a 512gb Samsung S10 Plus... And so far I have ejoyed the speed, camera and screen. I left iOS because of the lack of additional storage, the non-renovated-in-years look and feel, and the problems sharing documents with anything that is not Apple.*
Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that make me miss iOS, and I would love to know if any of you know how to help. I cannot think about a better place to ask than in the Android forum by excellence
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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richierich said:
"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...g_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
richierich said:
"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
---------- Post added at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ----------
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...g_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
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Simply great! this tool makes multitasking way more natural!
The only missing piece now is Apple Pay... They have a way better system than Android (you even need to dial your PIN number in the machine to complete the payment, while with Apple that was not needed).
Thanks, man!
Ok, so the passbook thing seems to be implemented into Samsung and Google pay. The similar gestures are coming with one ui 2. For iosish recents download nice lock and task changer off APK mirror
Just checked Vivid Navigation... Simply awesome. It replicates indeed the iPhone gestures and goes even beyond. Great suggestion, man!!

Most irritating feature on your smartphone

We all have our preferences. Our likes and dislikes. This is also true In the matter of our smartphones. There are some features or apps which we find most irritating.
For me, it is the bloatware that comes along with my Samsung. The first thing I do after setting up a new phone is I uninstall the extras that come with the OS.
Unfortunately, not all apps can be removed. There are a number of apps that just cannot be removed normally. They have fancy names and mention that they are there to improve your user experience. There are slightly complicated ways of removing them, and I am sure I will try that once the phone is a bit older!
What feature(s) on your smartphone irritate you ?
OTA updates, my arch nemesis.
Wittle Bixby is also a menace. After reading it's EULA my jaw dropped.
That it will be old in 3....2....1...
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That it will be old in 3....2....1...
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