GLOSSARY HERE? Define IPL, SPL, RRU, CID, RADIO ? (Wing) - Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading

Hi all, I'm a noob, as evidenced by my "101" question.
I have done my due diligence first, looking at wiki, then at page for my WING device, thru various NOOB helpful threads, thru sig files of thread-starters, using Google search of XDA, and searching FAQ of this Forum.
(1) IS there a simple glossary page amongst the various pieces of XDA sites? If so, could I get a link please. If not, it may be a good idea.
(2) The scariest thing for a newbie is finding what seems to be the perfect Orientation thread (such as on wiki page for Herald), and "links for all nebies" sticky threads, only to be hit right out the gate with terms one is unfamiliar with, and are not defined.
(3) I know I don't need to give an example, but I will anyway
I find this "starting point" sticky thread from the wiki for Herald.
>> !! - ALL Important LINKS - !! < > !! Noobs and ALL read carefully !! <<
It's a fantastic service to have a top-level guide for beginners -- and no complaints at all... I'm just identifying that I am sort of terrified right out of the gate, as I see this:
How 2to flash
Hard-SPL - READ carefully
and I have no idea what Hard-SPL is. So I go to that link/thread because it's a top instruction on the list, and I find this:
HARD-SPL - working! I case of people who don´t read 200 post and still brick their device - here is the guide that worked for ALL people with:
HTC P4350
XDA Terra
WING
with IPL 4.xxx and higher!!! (that is IMPORTANT)
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with IPL 4.xxx and higher!!! (that is IMPORTANT)
I have no idea what IPL is, or where to find it. So I go to my WING device under settings > system > Device Info > and I look at each tab. I do not find IPL -- but I am told this is important, and from reading around, I understand the concept of bricking a phone, if one does not read carefully.
So I go to GOOGLE SEARCH within XDA, and enter "Hard SPL" to try to get a definition. I try these:
Hard-SPL, Or How to Not Brick Your PDA Ever Again And Fix Bad Blocks!
I search further using Google within XDA and find this thread:
which now gives me an initial framework of understanding "what is Hard SPL" :
What is Hard SPL?
- a custom G4 SPL patched by Olipro which let your device think it has SuperCID (aka CID unlocked)
What is different from the Soft SPL?
-Soft SPL is temporarily, this solution is semi permanent, it will be removed by flashing an original G4 SPL.
-You don't need a separate loader in the future, just use the RUU provided in the ROM package.
Can I use it for other devices than for a G4 wizard?
G4 Wizards only, use at own risk
...
Now you have Hard SPL
You can flash the ROMs with the RUU in the ROM package, should you have trouble with upgrading, try Mun's RUU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52404&d=1190997171) (thanks for the tip Boto).
So no need to downgrade before upgrade anymore.
But don't flash ROMs containing IPL/SPL.
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But don't flash ROMs containing IPL/SPL. Once again, IPL -- what is it?
I search Google for that as well. I also search for SuperCID, because I don't know what that means either. I searched more threads, and then I concluded: okay, I'm going in circles, so I am going to post and ask "Is there a Glossary?"
If there isn't, could someone please define for me these various essentials?
IPL
SPL
RRU
CID
RADIO
Thanks very much. And fwiw I I included examples in this thread in the spirit of the XDA forum, so that it might help someone else after me

IPL- basically the phone's bios. It controls the boot order (i think)
SPL- This is like the protocol for ROM access. There are something like different levels of access depending on what one needs to do. HardSPL sets the level permanently to the highest level (this is simplified)
RUU- you use this to flash roms and stuff. it contains the instructions for accessing the ROM
CID- this tells you whether or not you can access the rom. If it is locked, you cannot flash an unauthorized (unsigned?) rom.
Radio- these are the firmwares for GSM radio that your phone uses (bluetooth, wifi, etc are stored as part of the ROM)
By the way, at the bottom of the main page of the forums there is a dictionary section. Look around there.

XDA-developer encylopedia

Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, use the Hermes HardSPL to flash your device. Please change that information. That WILL KILL your device.

fzzyrn said:
By the way, at the bottom of the main page of the forums there is a dictionary section. Look around there.
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DOH!!
Hey thanks very much! I'm still not sure if my T-Mobile Wing meets criteria specified by some of the threads. So, how does one find how one's phone meets those various specs?
(maybe it is answered below, i will read on.) thank you

duprade said:
XDA-developer encylopedia
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Damn... And I'm an information designer... I don't know how I missed it. But thank you. That helps a lot.

ivanmmj said:
Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, use the Hermes HardSPL to flash your device. Please change that information. That WILL KILL your device.
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ivanmmj -- I'm guessing you were addressing me. I have not authored any posts or threads with any instructions of any kind; i'm wet behind the ears. If you are saying to me "Don't use HardSPL on my T-Mobile Wing", thank you, that's what I needed to know.
Re: "Please change that information", I am guessing you mean on THIS thread, about HardSPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
It is authored by and says:
papamopps
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HARD-SPL - working!
I case of people who don´t read 200 post and still brick their device - here is the guide that worked for ALL people with:
HTC P4350
XDA Terra
WING
with IPL 4.xxx and higher!!! (that is IMPORTANT)
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Let me rephrase and simplify my question, and maybe you can help me:
I have the T-Mobile Wing (Herald). I want to put a new rom on it, and I want to eventually run a iphone-like interface. I began at the start reading the very first directions from the sticky thread: >> !! - ALL Important LINKS - !! < > !! Noobs and ALL read carefully !! <<
And I see that I need to know my phone's specs: How do I find out for my specific phone:
1. What is it's IPL ?
2. SPL: Is there anything I need to know about this from my phone?
3. CID: How do I find out the status of my phone, if it's locked or unlocked?
Thank you much.

fzzyrn said:
IPL- basically the phone's bios. It controls the boot order (i think)
SPL- This is like the protocol for ROM access. There are something like different levels of access depending on what one needs to do. HardSPL sets the level permanently to the highest level (this is simplified)
RUU- you use this to flash roms and stuff. it contains the instructions for accessing the ROM
CID- this tells you whether or not you can access the rom. If it is locked, you cannot flash an unauthorized (unsigned?) rom.
Radio- these are the firmwares for GSM radio that your phone uses (bluetooth, wifi, etc are stored as part of the ROM)
By the way, at the bottom of the main page of the forums there is a dictionary section. Look around there.
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I just ran across this thread while trying to edgercate (educate) myself on WinMo-speak. Sorry, but I could not see a dictionary section, or else I could not find the "main page" of the forums, or I'm just blind.
Help?
Randy
St Louis

randysgym said:
I just ran across this thread while trying to edgercate (educate) myself on WinMo-speak. Sorry, but I could not see a dictionary section, or else I could not find the "main page" of the forums, or I'm just blind.
Help?
Randy
St Louis
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I feel for you, Randy... It's over 2 years later, and it's STILL not easy to find this supposedly easy to find glossary... I couldn't remember where it was so I went to the wiki -- then i had to scroll down past one whole screen and then it appears... Needless to say not very helpful information design.. But, the site is in the process of being revamped, and I am sure this is on the list of things to do to help make the information more accessible.
HERE IS THE GLOSSARY: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Glossary
When I read the part you quoted above, it brought back painful memories... Not ONE of those supposed explanations was the least bit user friendly, and each presumes you know a whole other set of terminology... It drives me nuts! It's seems to be as good a definition of HELL as any, if hell were to exist at all. Hope that link helps... If not, go HERE, to the Q & A general forum -- where they really truly will help newbs with almost anything.. they just ask the one thing asked everywhere: Try searching at least once.... But never drive yourself crazy with SEARCH, especially when just starting out. If you find yourself being lead into endless circles, then ask the question here -- you will FOR SURE be helped.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=456
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Touch-IT,WWE v1.1 UPDATED 10.09.07

Hi guys
Here is final versjon
Whats in it:
-TouchFlo (No buttonFlo) with Tom_Codons Herald-TF-settings
-HTC Home 6 buttons
-HTC touchdialer (thx for fix Fultotop)
-HTC 10b commManager (thx to Fultotop)
-HTC Kaiser Networkwizard
-HTC Audiomanager
-HTC X-button 1.5
-Batterystatus 2.18
-Total commander 2.0
-Pim backup 2.4
-ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1
-PHM Registry Editor
-Pocket RAR
-PsShutxp
-Hibernate
Tweaks:
-Disabled sms sendt notification
-Security off
-Disabled the security warning when installing non-certified applications
-Reminders show only once
-E-mail and attachments default on storage card
-IE temp files default to storage card
-Keyboard backlight changed from 5 sec to 20 sec
Screens:
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New theme:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/itjelta/touch.jpg
Known bugs:
-There are some issues if flashed to a wing. Read here if you flash this rom to a Wing. (also in tips 1)
If you need more tweaking, you can find some in the wiki, and some posted all over this forums.
Tips 1:
Here is a great (ongoing) thread by TylerC161 for all you who dont know so much about your device, and want to learn more. Its basicly for WING users, but much of it goes for the rest of us too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
Tips 2:
There is HTC Audiomanager, but also wmp, you can open the player and go to options, choose the skin tab, wait for search, then you can choose a touch skin to make it match with the touch theme.
Tips 3:
Go to programs/TouchFlo then activate Tom Codons TF-settings to choose how the cube will be activated (YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, if not the cube wont start):
This image is not from my rom but tom codons Black&Blue for the Artemis
Instructions how to upgrade is in the Touch-IT folder.
READ IT, if you dont, you will spend even more time infront of your computer flashing the official ruu before trying again, why waste time, use 1 min to read and understand.
Remember, if you dont like what I have added, or what I have removed or w/e please dont spam this thread with lame comments.
I take NO responsebility if you brick your device, if you do search the forums before you come flaming me/us here at XDA.
IF you brick your phone (Brick=the phone can be used as a building brick, or maybe a paperweight? Because you cant start it up.) Its no others fault but your own.
Mainly the reason for bricking a phone is:
1. Not reading the instructions good enough
2. Not following the instructions.
3. Not having a RUU that can unbrick the phone (the official installer with the official rom for your specific phone, with your phones default language. In.ex if yu have a german phone by default, you need a german RUU, if not you will get invalid vendor error)
4. Not reading the instructions good enough..again
5. Not following the instructions...again
If you dont understand after reading CAREFULLY, then dont bother flash your device with this or any other rom.
I also recommend to use the pagepool changer found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
I did nothing to the pagepool, because ppl have different experience with diffrent size on the pagepool, so thats why I leave that up to you
to find the correct pagepool size for your device.
Download FINAL here:
Megaupload
Rapidshare
To all wing and other herald model users:
I cant help you if you install on other devices then HTC P4350, I can not fix the issues you might have with it.
I cant cook one for you to fix problems you might have, because I dont have other model then P4350.
read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
cheers
Hey Itje,
sounds nice. I'll be checking it out on my P4350 as soon as you release it. But please use a filestorage system other than that megabull**** by kimble. It just sucks big time....
Great Job itje!
Can you cook a rom without extra programs?
I got Resco Explorer and i do not need total commander, and i think other ppls would like to get a naked rom
Again Great Work!
Jovien said:
Can you cook a rom without extra programs?
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Why don't you use the WM6-RUU then? This absolutly striped down to the basics.
Monarch73 said:
Why don't you use the WM6-RUU then? This absolutly striped down to the basics.
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Because i want Touch-IT functionality but not the total commander, obviosly....
I'd also love an almost naked rom (with only the TouchIT and HTC stuff but without the apps psSHUTxp, Batterystatus, Total commander and Pim backup.)
That would be great!!!!!!
Btw, there is already a new version of PIM Backup (2.5).
ITje: thanks for your great effort!!
Well guys, It should be really easy to take the ROM from itje and remove the programs you don't like or am I wrong?
Anyway, itje, thank you very much for your effort.
As far as I understand, you can only remove the programs if you cook your own rom. And not everybody is able to do that..... (like me, for example)
id like to create a touchflo rom by myself. but where can i get a clean rom with nothing on it then the os? are you always taking the original htc rom to modify?
Hard keyboard
Can you do somethink with hard keyboard in v1.0 the blue keys don't mach at all
cody28 said:
Can you do somethink with hard keyboard in v1.0 the blue keys don't mach at all
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? There's only 1 key that doesn't match: the "S" one.
No, I cant casuse I dont have a wing model.
THIS ROM IS COOKED FOR P4350
If you choose to install on other models of herald, I cant fix anything for you. Cause I do not have any other herald models, so I cant cook one that works for you, because I cant test what I do to it.
Send me a wing, and ill see what I can do
for whom is this big red message? only want to know if i should take a original p4350 rom to make my own cooked rom
its for the wing and other herald model users, because so many of them cant read if its not written in big red letters
itje said:
its for the wing and other herald model users, because so many of them cant read if its not written in big red letters
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ok lol
ähm could you please answer my question how i gonna start cooking my own rom? should i take the original htc?
take what rom you want
But there is alot of things you have to finetune to make stuff work on a official rom, you will see if you try
To have my language with wm6, I have to use official...using wwe, you can use others, search the herald wm6 section, theres supposed to be a clean base rom here somewhere.
hard keyboard
Jovien said:
? There's only 1 key that doesn't match: the "S" one.
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when i press ? i get @,#=!,( =? and the rest are mixed up
cody28 said:
when i press ? i get @,#=!,( =? and the rest are mixed up
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I have htc p4350 not wing.
hmm, do you have same issues with the official wm6 (english version)
Tha1nOnly said:
ok lol
ähm could you please answer my question how i gonna start cooking my own rom? should i take the original htc?
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SOrry - but when you don´t know where to start.....
stop here.
cooking is not such easy - but when you even don´t know which rom to take???
what do you want to do??
there is only one real wm6 rom that is not only a dump. so take this one.
lol

RUU_Wings_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.0_R_radio_sign_25.47.20 .01_1.58.09.17_Test

Hello all,
I was stumbling around, using one of my favorite search engines, Napalm, and found this:
RUU_Wings_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.0_R_radio_sign_25.47.20.01_1.58.09.17_Test
What is it, and what can we do with it? Anyone speak Slovak?
Thanks,
Matt
[UPDATE Jan 23rd: 01:51 UTC]
For those of you who don't feel like reading 9 pages of posts, here's the rundown:
JockyW2001 did a lot of work, cooked the Prod ROM and pre-pro Rom.
He then pinpointed the NVRAM entry that disabled GPS on his Kaiser, and recommends that someone with a prod S730 test it. You should donate to him.
Dumdidum has a pre-prod S730 and did a whole lotta testing.
Good luck getting any of them to write a nice tutorial for us n00bs, though.
Test away.
[UPDATEish Jan 24th: 00:48 UTC]
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Tools: HardSPL; QPST 2.7; QXDM 3.9.19
More testing to change the NVRAM setting. Failed to remain modified after soft reset (to get into the OS, out of tri-color bootloader mode).
jockyw2001 said:
Anyhow, we will find a solution soon.
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[UPDATE Jan 25th: 02:06 UTC]
Current post page count is 15.
No progress today...
jockyw2001 said:
Ok, since NV items are stored in NAND, the protection is either by locked NAND pages or there is some kind of security flag set somewhere
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My opinion is that there isn't security exactly, but an automatic rewrite taking place; as in, something saying "return NV values to this value," that, in itself, is a single value somewhere.
[UPDATE Jan 28th: 02:13 UTC]
Current post page count is still 15
Nothing new. No more progress reports until something changes.
Getting into tri-color boot mode.
[UPDATE]
Thread is continued HERE.
jocky gave in and explained how to change the NV setting for us n00bs.
Did you know jockyw2001 doesn't even have an S730, yet he's spending a lot of time and energy helping us out?
Cool you found the missing part. If this is really for Wings we can start cooking ROMs and test pre-prod on prod
EDIT: Yes, this is the real thing ! Excellent find
SPL: 1.20.0000...Wings SPL EVT...Shipped
jockyw2001 said:
Cool you found the missing part. If this is really for Wings we can start cooking ROMs and test pre-prod on prod
EDIT: Yes, this is the real thing ! Excellent find
SPL: 1.20.0000...Wings SPL EVT...Shipped
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OMG! Crazy...
Well, I have no idea what the hell to do with this, or anything... but I'd be more than glad to help/test whatever.
So is this a whole ROM?
If yes, which language?
Ok. I have a preproduction Phone with working GPS, but it is veeeeeeeeeery slow and is crashing all 10 minutes (no ****)
So I decided to give it a go, and I've updated the ROM here.
It's a Test only, not for sale.
1. Thing: It's very fast now. But I think your productive devices were fast before
2. Thing: COM4 doesnt respond yet.
I'm happy now because I can finally use the device, and I'm trying to implement the GPS back. I'm sure that this has to work because I have a working GPS antenna in the device.
Btw. it's english after flashing, Languages included are:
Cestina
Romana RO
Some greek or russian
UK English
Magyar
Portugues
US English
Nederlands
Türkçe
Slovencina
ROM Info is: (as stated above, so I can confirm it)
R 1.58.09.17
G 25.47.20.01H
D 1.21.00.00
Dumdidum said:
Ok. I have a preproduction Phone with working GPS, but it is veeeeeeeeeery slow and is crashing all 10 minutes (no ****)
So I decided to give it a go, and I've updated the ROM here.
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NOOOO!!!
What have I done?!
FYI:
Here's what I have on a model bought from MobilePlanet (aka eXpansys)
R 1.58.17.02
G 25.62.30.03h
D 1.31.00.00
Dumdidum said:
Ok. I have a preproduction Phone with working GPS, but it is veeeeeeeeeery slow and is crashing all 10 minutes (no ****)
So I decided to give it a go, and I've updated the ROM here.
It's a Test only, not for sale.
1. Thing: It's very fast now. But I think your productive devices were fast before
2. Thing: COM4 doesnt respond yet.
I'm happy now because I can finally use the device, and I'm trying to implement the GPS back. I'm sure that this has to work because I have a working GPS antenna in the device.
Btw. it's english after flashing, Languages included are:
Cestina
Romana RO
Some greek or russian
UK English
Magyar
Portugues
US English
Nederlands
Türkçe
Slovencina
ROM Info is: (as stated above, so I can confirm it)
R 1.58.09.17
G 25.47.20.01H
D 1.21.00.00
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Where are you located? Is 3G working on 850/1900/2100 with this rom?
BTW, GREAT FIND BIGFLAVOR!!
Hi
I'm located in Switzerland and have the 3G-Logo. But here the coverage is poor, but this afternoon I will go to our capital and then I can tell you if 3G is fully working..
Dumdidum said:
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2. Thing: COM4 doesnt respond yet.
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The best result will be if you obtain the same behavior as pro model - only one or two satellites without fix = working GPS probably not depends on antenna, only on sw (hope).
Jockyw: pls cook and cook.
Bigfalvor: excellent hit.
With GPSTest it doesnt recognize the com port com 4
cool
N1 m8 and thanks for NAPALM FTP Indexer. Thats a nice search engine/indexer for FTP, Very cool ...
rooomish said:
Jockyw: pls cook and cook.
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I am cooking 2 meals right at this moment
Seems to work well ! Will upload results to XDA soon.
@Dumdidum:
You should have flashed this new ROM in parts. First OS and then radio. It would have been very interesting to see if the radio is sufficient to get GPS going. Anyways you will be a good tester when it comes to flashing my cooked pre-prod OS
I have just finished cooking the pre-production OS, please download "Wings-cooked-OS-pre-prod.zip" from XDA FTP and flash OS.nbh with the attched RUU Updater. Put OS.nbh in the same directory as the unpacked RUU Updater files.
EDIT:
On the XDA ftp site I just posted the file "Wings-cooked-OS-prod.zip" in /Smartphone/Wings/ROM (Production model)/
I also cooked the pre-prod OS which is file "Wings-cooked-OS-pre-prod.zip" in /Smartphone/Wings/ROM (Pre-production model)/
I also attached the Wings ROM Updater tool which was extracted from the official ROM.
Cooked pre-prod and prod OS ROMS are finished, see my previous post.
Have fun! perhaps the best idea is that Dumdidum tries first.
jockyw2001 said:
Cooked pre-prod and prod OS ROMS are finished, see my previous post.
Have fun! perhaps the best idea is that Dumdidum tries first.
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Great work Jockyw! Maybe the result of your work is adept for new thread aka Try the prepro ROM on your s730 to check if GPS works.
So guys, who will be the first, who will check if pro model with prepro ROM has GPS? Then we can make the mix of both ROMs
jockyw2001 said:
I am cooking 2 meals right at this moment :.
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What you eating, just had a pitza myself....
oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! I so exited for what is about to come out of this! Thanks to everyone involved and expect a donation when this is completed!
I just flashed the prod OS ROM on my Kaiser and it works fine
The only problem is the keyboard mapping
I will now flash the pre-prod and let you know if it that also works. Anyone with a HardSPL can then try it on a real WINGS
PS: Of course I will test GPS with both ROMs
I have interesting news
I'm running GPSTest.exe inside the prod Wings OS on my Kaiser and I have a fix. This means that if the software is crippled then it must be done in the radio part. That fits exactly with Dumdidum's experience after he flashed the full RUU.
I will now flash the Wings radio and should then no longer have a GPS fix. And then I will post a link to a Kaiser radio which will hopefully give you the long awaited GPS
Stay tuned guys.
Sorry I'm still new to this stuff, but I have been following these threads the best I can.
With this new update is there any way we could check if this would enable 3G as well as GPS
Mate I'm ready to test... which should I exactly test?

How to Install/remove the OS of my HD???

Install/remove the OS of my HD??? and withc should i try first???? ROM
yanko87 said:
Install/remove the OS of my HD??? and withc should i try first???? ROM
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1) launch cmd.exe
2) >> format c: /q
3) RESET
4) Insert ROM disc in CD drive
5) start installation
6) slap yourself for not reading because you are a tool
What he said!
jasjamming said:
1) launch cmd.exe
2) >> format c: /q
3) RESET
4) Insert ROM disc in CD drive
5) start installation
6) slap yourself for not reading because you are a tool
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loool i'll have to put that quote in my signature
ha ha ha ha
cant stop laughing after readin this threadd...
people cmon use ur senses before askin?
wow. fu ck thank you for ****ing with me i hope you are proud of your ****ing filthy self man!!! i really do hope!!!!!!! ohh by the way I am a ****ing noob, and just got touch hd. but thank you for being really mature about all this
go thru the black stone wiki friend..
this should answer all probable question in ur mind..
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yanko87 said:
wow. fu ck thank you for ****ing with me i hope you are proud of your ****ing filthy self man!!! i really do hope!!!!!!! ohh by the way I am a ****ing noob, and just got touch hd. but thank you for being really mature about all this
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yanko87 said:
wow. fu ck thank you for ****ing with me i hope you are proud of your ****ing filthy self man!!! i really do hope!!!!!!! ohh by the way I am a ****ing noob, and just got touch hd. but thank you for being really mature about all this
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yeah i mean fair enuff jasjamming wasnt very patient but then again u didnt read the rules did you, if you did u would have read the wiki and search the threads and seen this is covered many times over.
so before u go swearing at the big boys do a little research even the biggest idiots can do great thing. bush was president for eight years arent you cant get thicker than that
so ? it's ok for that dude to make fun of me but when i speake my mind about him then thats not ok?? this is just pathetic. come on guys, i need some help and not some one to tell me that i am a noob(witch i allready know) if you cant or wont help me than STFU and let others help me dont be a smart***(butt)..
thank you ....
ohh and i did but the frums should have a thread thats easy to find for noobs like me....dont you think
P.S. bush screwed up USA !!!!
Did you try reading the tutorial that is stickied at the top of the forum that you posted in?
yanko87 said:
so ? it's ok for that dude to make fun of me but when i speake my mind about him then thats not ok?? this is just pathetic. come on guys, i need some help and not some one to tell me that i am a noob(witch i allready know) if you cant or wont help me than STFU and let others help me dont be a smart***(butt)..
thank you ....
ohh and i did but the frums should have a thread thats easy to find for noobs like me....dont you think
P.S. bush screwed up USA !!!!
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in his defence he just poked a little fun you went as far as using foul language, which is another rule break
also if you cant be bothered to read the rules then u dont get the defnce of the forum. if you cant be arsed to help yourself then we wont be holding you hand through it
some people are just too sensitive, its just a forum.....
i apologise for hurting your blackstone's feelings, give it a kiss for me.,
How do I shot web?
I accidentally the whole Touch HD
Ok thread going nowhere.

Me & LG ;]

Hi, I'm BigboyPL. Maybe some people already know me.
Firstly I don't have LGP880, just GT540 and old KP500.
Probably you are wondering what I'm doing here.
I will answer : I'm helping ppl with LG. Especially with firmwares, flashing and service manuals.
It started in 2009. I've bought brand new KP500 in February. After few months I started modifying a firmware etc.
I was very interested in csmg servers. I looked for a lot of things and after few days I knew almost everything that I've need.
In 2009 it was very easy to crack B2B (just need to change password window to main window ;d) and also pages was very simply.
Also links for firmwares was little different. FW was in .cab extension. It was needed only one page to get list of all .kdz firmwares.
You can look here how it was looked: http://web.archive.org/web/20090508...g/b2c/client/b2c_version_mode.jsp?model=KP500 easy as pie ;d
Then in 3rd quater of 2009 LG has changed many things. Firmwares was in .kdz and were signed to IMEI number, and it's for today. B2C_version_mode page dissappeared.
There was a new pages used in B2B:
ezlooks_to_csmg_noti.jsp - it was used for inform about new .kdz firmwares
global_manual_noti.jsp - it was uded for inform about new drivers, service manuals etc.
You can see it here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100611...com:9002/csmg/popup/ezlooks_to_csmg_noti.jsp?
http://web.archive.org/web/20101124...le.com:9002/csmg/popup/global_manual_noti.jsp
as you can see it's a bit harder cause you must substitute data to link. To get complete suffix you must use :
http://web.archive.org/web/20100923...mode_country_check.jsp?model=GT540&country=GB
previously you can download service manual from here: csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/sw_manual_list.jsp?model=KP500&suffix=ADEUSV
now you can just download user manual, pc suite, and drivers only.
Then in 2011 pages was changed to other. ezlooks_to_csmg_noti is now agent_phonesw_notice_list
I make copy of agent_phonesw_notice_list every day. I've backup since 2011, and ezlooks since 2010. I can download any .kdz file which can download B2C at normal update.
In 2012 I found out that LG has beta RNDTESTSW firmwares too.
Since then I'm trying to understand how to get this firmware but vainly.
In 2013 LG has changed authentication in B2B and B2B is logging to LG site too. LG has changed WEBSW to WDLSW parameter updated csmg server and
added parallel header site (csmg.lgmobile.com:9002 is running same as csmgdl.lgmobile.com)
I also found B2B cracked by ooxtcoo on his ftp site. I have 1.4.8.0 and 1.4.9.0 versions.
Many peoples has it too.
I wanted to patch a new version and I found that daniel.wro patched traffic and gained access to the tool. He told me that he used tool called fiddler.
I spent one day to find how that works.
Then I started to look for RNDTESTSW in many programs. First tool that I patched was B2E but I didn't found anything interesting.
Next, at general forum reas0n said that a man called foil uploaded beta version fw for LGE960. I found his profile on xda but he wasn't online for about 2 months.
I found his twitter (f0il) and then our conversation begin.
He told me that I must use PCSyncFTP tool from LG. He added that I will find something in traffic.
For about a month, I struggled with this tool and finally I had to give up cause I found nothing.
I wanted him to say something more but he gives me nothing.
Please, don't spam any messages at his profile cause he won't tell you anything. He is reverse engineer and that't his job. It is obvious that if someone earns money for it why would he tell you for free. Respect it.
I took a different way.
I was looking for "something" in the other tools.
I've edited B2C tool and now I have Retail&Vendor tool.
in B2C you can see 2 links:
First link giving us some RNDTESTSW link
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/...websw_list.jsp?country=&region=&buyer=&model=
e.g. http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/...list.jsp?country=DE&region=E&buyer=DEU&model= (without model it shows all models)
but I think it giving always outdated links cause
<model>LGE975</model>
<suffix></suffix>
<buyer>DEU</buyer>
<buyer_name>GERMANY</buyer_name>
<swversion>E97510C_00</swversion>
<live_date>2013-03-18 16:28:16.0</live_date>
<region>E</region>
<country>DE</country>
<country_name>Germany</country_name>
<chip_type>QCT</chip_type>
<sw_recommand_uri>GLOBAL/EIC</sw_recommand_uri>
<sw_uri>http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/RNDTESTSW/LGE975/DEU/07IHFWIZXG/E97510C_00/E97510C_00.kdz</sw_uri>
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you can see that is uploaded today in 16:28 korean time (GMT+8)
and link is not working.
the second link is
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check_optestimei.jsp?esn=
if somebody has developer phone after esn= you should type IMEI and it should give something.
And now it's time to reflection. I have many IMEI's from prototype phones (IMEI starts at 0044) and it's not a developer phone.
I think it's used to test hardware, I mean prototype to test does phone works good. Also gsm providers can get this prototype to see how will looks their "additions".
Also companies that are making reviews (e.g. gsmarena) doesn't have developer phones.
I once read somewhere in LG Service Information bulletins that there are phones with yellow imei labels. Such mobiles aren't repaired but send somewhere in LG.
Maybe this is the clue.
here is edited version of B2C: http://www.mediafire.com/?hme6xi15io74jdy
you should put this file in LGMOBILEAX/B2C_Client (in xp C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LGMOBILEAX\B2C_Client)
In Extras tab you have some extra options and tool will work till next update.
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[that's not end, I will write more here so refrain from unnecessary comments such : "why do we need it", "wrong forum", "littering" etc.]
[reserved]
it will be many codes and images so I must reserve post
[reserved]
reserved for fiddler tutorial, files
reserved for special thanks
Thanks for writing this thread and supporting us ..
Best regards,
i look forward to any additional help you may provide, thankyou
couldnt the RNDTESTSW somehow be part of UpTestEX_mod2_marwin which is the RNDTESTTOOL maybe there would be some way of unlocking extra tabs inside it, i know that it already has 2 options that say they are not implemented yet please wait for next release
Nobody knows how to activate new version of UpTestEX.
http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/UpTestEX_1.1.5.2.cab
Buttons are always not active.
yeah i told about that version today but we do have the version before 1.1.5 that is already cracked/working. .
heres a few url''s for other stuff that someone told me about but you probably already have them and i dont know if there off any use to you
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/B2BFileUpdateAgent_1.0.5.0.cab
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/BuyerShopAppProg_2.0.1.6_2.0.1.6.cab
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/BYREUTProg_1.0.8.0.cab
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/NotiAgent_BYR_1.0.8.8.cab
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/UpTestEX_1.1.5.2
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/B2BAppProg_1.5.0.1.cab
ttp://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/swdata/client/inhouse/B2CAppProg_1.6.3.0.cab
(place the h at the beguinning of url)
also wouldnt it be possible to use hex editor to see how the previous was bypassed or with fiddler
Where is patched 1.1.5.2 version of UpTestEx ?
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Where is patched 1.1.5.2 version of UpTestEx ?
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if you have original and patched uptestex, would it not be easy with IDA pro to look at assembly code and change the same code in updated edition??
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Where is patched 1.1.5.2 version of UpTestEx ?
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i said we have the previous version patched (actually a little older than previous its ver1.0.4)but at a guess the method of authenticating would of probably only changed slightly if at all or even better would be to check how b2b does it
I think those rndtest goodies can be obtained from B2E support->upgrade event but it requires security key that it sends to server so without right authentication server won't send any info
I also tried buyershop but it needs password not at its openning and it didn't check the server for authenticating so it might be built in password
Buyershop is operator support tool (I have buyer test app and it's working without passwords), it only has one option : update phone.
Previous versions of UpTestEX can be cracked using just ResHacker or other tools like this. You must change not premited menu to premited menu and add parameters WS_VISIBLE to all buttons, windows etc. and delete WS_DISABLED.
Sorry that I don't finished this theard but I'm very busy now. In next few days I will try to write some text.
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Sorry that I don't finished this theard but I'm very busy now. In next few days I will try to write some text.
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http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check_optestimei.jsp?esn=x
do u know the right response to this - it looks like see if u've operator test mobile b4 doing the ordinary check and it might give some permission
i tried to respond with the same ordinary response but it didn't enable me to download 20a - maybe its related to this rnd temp link
another interesting check which i don't know its response http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/os_upgrade_check_rnd.jsp?esn=x
ofcourse normal respone is fail on both (we need operator esn)
It must give status=OK and some .kdz RND link I think.
BigBoy,
It would be wise to keep your findings to yourself, and stop talking about it in an open forum. I understand that you're wanting to help everybody out, but you will kill the access that you have if everybody and their mother can do it. I have full admin access that I can create/delete real working accounts, and bind mac/ip to account, so I'm personally not worried about it - but for the sake of the community, please don't put this stuff out into the open. Respect what you have, and don't abuse it.
I'm not trying to be an asshole at all, I'm just looking out for everybody.
Btw, not all R&D is hosted on public internet, and is only on LG private intranet. You need remote pin access

GPS issues/ROM switching

Hello all,
Several months ago, I unlocked my phone via Sunshine and successfully flashed the Resurrection Remix ROM. I've recently noticed that GPS tracking does not function correctly, and I believe this issue is related to the ROM. I've tried custom gps.conf files, as well as apps that clear the aGPS cache, to no avail. These apps did not show any connected satellites, either. The GPS tracking is not precise, nor consistent, leading me to believe it's only pulling data from Wifi and mobile networks. My suspicions are further supported in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/gps-cm-rr-t3265348. It appears that CyanogenMod based ROMs suffer from this issue on the Turbo.
So, I suppose my question is twofold. Does anyone know of a working fix for this issue on Resurrection? If not, I will have to return to a stock or similar ROM. I'm thinking Computerfreek's ROM should do the trick. Under that scenario - are there any particular steps I need to be aware of, e.g., any "gotchas" when moving from a CM based ROM back to a stock-ish one? Or is it as simple as downloading the radio files and the ROM's .zip for Computerfreek, and flashing them with TWRP, in that order?
I apologize if I've broken any forum rules, this is my first time posting here. I tried to do my due diligence searching the forums, and I think I know the answer to my problem, I just would like confirmation as I'm still not very adept with custom ROMs and such.
Thank you for your time and input. I appreciate any suggestions, advice, opinions, or solutions. Whatever you have to say I'm grateful!
GPS TEST
treewick said:
Hello all,
Several months ago, I unlocked my phone via Sunshine and successfully flashed the Resurrection Remix ROM. I've recently noticed that GPS tracking does not function correctly, and I believe this issue is related to the ROM. I've tried custom gps.conf files, as well as apps that clear the aGPS cache, to no avail. These apps did not show any connected satellites, either. The GPS tracking is not precise, nor consistent, leading me to believe it's only pulling data from Wifi and mobile networks. My suspicions are further supported in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/gps-cm-rr-t3265348. It appears that CyanogenMod based ROMs suffer from this issue on the Turbo.
So, I suppose my question is twofold. Does anyone know of a working fix for this issue on Resurrection? If not, I will have to return to a stock or similar ROM. I'm thinking Computerfreek's ROM should do the trick. Under that scenario - are there any particular steps I need to be aware of, e.g., any "gotchas" when moving from a CM based ROM back to a stock-ish one? Or is it as simple as downloading the radio files and the ROM's .zip for Computerfreek, and flashing them with TWRP, in that order?
I apologize if I've broken any forum rules, this is my first time posting here. I tried to do my due diligence searching the forums, and I think I know the answer to my problem, I just would like confirmation as I'm still not very adept with custom ROMs and such.
Thank you for your time and input. I appreciate any suggestions, advice, opinions, or solutions. Whatever you have to say I'm grateful!
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You can easily check if GPS is being used. I believe you are wrong that your GPS is not being used, but there's very simple way to check.
Download this app, install it. Go stand OUTSIDE in your front yard.
This is my phone, INSIDE. 17 satellites in view, 9 in use. 13 feet accuracy. Outside, I get ever better accuracy. If you get even ONE satellite, it's using GPS.
GPS Test
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest&hl=en
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After standing in clear view of the sky for over 5 minutes, I still showed 0 satellites with the app you suggested. This is congruent with the information shown by the other apps as well, as noted in the original post. So no, it's not using GPS.
I attempted to include a screenshot of this, but as a new user of the forum, I can't include links until I've made ten posts. So you'll have to take my word for it.
treewick said:
After standing in clear view of the sky for over 5 minutes, I still showed 0 satellites with the app you suggested. This is congruent with the information shown by the other apps as well, as noted in the original post. So no, it's not using GPS.
I attempted to include a screenshot of this, but as a new user of the forum, I can't include links until I've made ten posts. So you'll have to take my word for it.
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You mentioned some stuff you tried. Did you try the @baybutcher27 "clear modem" file?
ChazzMatt said:
You mentioned some stuff you tried. Did you try the @baybutcher27 "clear modem" file?
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I haven't - I was not aware this existed. I'll look for it and see what I can accomplish, thanks.
ChazzMatt said:
You mentioned some stuff you tried. Did you try the @baybutcher27 "clear modem" file?
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The clean modem file did the trick! Thank you for the suggestion.
@baybutcher27 clean modem file
treewick said:
The clean modem file did the trick! Thank you for the suggestion.
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You are welcome. For others, here it is:
baybutcher27 said:
GPS:
Going back and for changing the ROM may cause GPS problem, and user can't get a GPS lock.
To solve is necessary to erase the radio stats, that can be achieved via this zip "Clean_modem_status.zip" flash it via TWRP no wipe is need.
If this doesn't help going back to stock ROM and getting a GPS lock then going back to custom may solve this... But for that is need to have a backup of stock, and make a backup of custom to go back and for...
Is possible to use a TWRP backup of stock from @ChazzMatt thread, Moto Maxx - Moto Turbo XT1225 factory images (Mexico | Puerto Rico | India | Brazil)..
Thanks to @ChazzMatt for this GPS workaround...
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That quote is mostly for the Clean Modem file download, which works for all Quarks with TWRP custom recovery installed.
The TWRP backups @baybutcher27 mentioned would only be for XT1225 users, not Droid Turbo users.
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You are welcome. For others, here it is:
That quote is mostly for the Clean Modem file download, which works for all Quarks with TWRP custom recovery installed.
The TWRP backups @baybutcher27 mentioned would only be for XT1225 users, not Droid Turbo users.
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The clean modem status link does not work. Same link as is given on RR thread. Any where else to get this fix?
Raistlen0 said:
The clean modem status link does not work. Same link as is given on RR thread. Any where else to get this fix?
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Seems like the Android Host website is temporarily down.
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Yeah I see that now. Before it was an error from their site saying file can not be found.

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