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HEY! Can't get adb to boot into recovery? Try this!

Follow the official method posted everywhere on this forum, I won't get into that part.
But if you've been doing all your little tricks like pushing the card in and out, or waiting for the windows chime, and it hasn't worked... stop and listen up!
Look at your phone while you're waiting for the chime. Don't do anything yet, just look at the screen. Right before windows does the sound you'll see the screen flicker. Did you see it? ok good.
When I was trying this everyone said the reconnect sound would happen before I got into the screen with the ! Triangle. Mine always happened after a couple seconds on that screen. Also, I noticed the screen always flickered when windows disconnected from the phone.
try this:
when you're trying to get your phone into recovery do the 10 minute video method, and when you see the screen flicker immediately push the sd card in. This was the only way I was, or am able to get the phone into recovery. I was able to do it successfully on 2 different incredibles this way. I used a 16gb card from the moto droid, and the 2gb PNY from wal-mart successfully on both phones.
Please don't dowse me with gas and set me ablaze! just trying to help. Never said it was a final solution, just hopefully helps someone.

Yep worked for me too, this method has been updated in the unrevoked teams rootwiki.

generic.imitation said:
Look at your phone while you're waiting for the chime. Don't do anything yet, just look at the screen. Right before windows does the sound you'll see the screen flicker. Did you see it? ok good.
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Yep, I count from the boot vibrate and insert the card @ 7 seconds or when the scanline breaks for a second -- whichever comes first.
It's a simple rule that makes the whole process run smoothly, which is more than I could say when I started trying to root

Once again... No such luck for me. It was so much easier the first time i did it lol.

This has been the only method that has worked for me in the last week or so, and it has been very reliable. Usually get it within 5 attempts at worst. I have had success on only one pc, however, which is strange. I can move the usb to another pc after I get recovery and it works fine from there. This may just be coincidence, but it might be worth trying this method on more than one pc. YMMV.
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For developers. Root Info. Hope this helps

Hey,
I have been trying to root since the minute the process was let out publicly with no luck, until this morning. I have been through each thread over and over and finally found several things that made it work. After completing the task and going back over everything I tried. I found out the following and I would bet good money it will work for any one.
1. I left my phone plugged in the whole time. No usb cord inserting
2. I had it set to disk mode under pc connection in settings.
3. I used the 2gb card from verizon. Did not erase it. Don't know how it was formatted and don't believe it matters.
4. Made sure the HTC driver was working. This was done by having phone plugged in while in normal operating mode. To verify this once you hear the usb sounds in the command window at the C:/whatever/tools prompt type adb devices. It should come up with a serial number or such.
5. This will sound odd, but several of the methods talk about the screen flicker and not many talk about a sound the phone makes when it loads the sd card. That sound is real and audible if you put the phone to your ear. try it when you turn your phone on. You can hear it. That sound is the key. Try it by starting your phone normally and put it up to your ear. You will hear it.
6. Ok, if your phone is recognized by adb and you can hear the sound you have all you need. Make sure you have the necessay files downloaded to your tools folder.
7. With your phone in normal operating mode, shut it down. You need access to your battery and your sd card so the back needs to be off.
8. Pull the battery and unclick your sd card, hold Vol- and power. The phone will start and try to load the bootloader and leave you at the screen where you can select recovery.
9. Start Loop.bat
10. Press Vol - to select recovery and press power. move the phone close to your ear with your thumbnail on the sd card. When you hear that sound, immediately click in your sd card. The phone will goto the black triangle screen. The phone will then go through it's usb detection and when you hear the connected sound, you will get the error message. This may take 15-30 seconds. It took me 2 tries the first time, but now I have gotten it everytime I have tried since.
11. type in adb devices to verify that your in recovery.
12. Use your favorite method from here. The xda method is the one I used. Everything works fine. Wireless directly to my IPAD.
I think if I made a spread sheet of all the methods, sd cards and timings, we would find out that this is usually the thing that works. You can use the clock method, but I guarantee the right time collates with the cricket sound which collates with the screen flicker.
Anyone else smart that cares to look at this may be able to figure a way to streamline it even more.
Rod

sorry buddy but this old news we all knew about the audible sound, most people tried clicking in the sd card at that point, others tried plugging in usb at that point, buts we all knew about the sound and tried different methods to get it to work. personally i tried your method and it didnt work before i actually rooted. the method i used, envolved a linux live usb flash drive, linux live sd card formatted, and the tail messages, worked everytime the first time, if i missed the first time i had to restart the entire process. atleast now you are rooted

Jesus, everyone has a method that works for "everyone".
Apparently "Search" is broken?

aaronjb said:
Jesus, everyone has a method that works for "everyone".
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I hear what you're saying, but we shouldn't stifle discussion that could lead to a more reproducible method, either. Maybe this doesn't warrant a new thread, but whatever.
Anyway, I had tried several of the other methods before, maybe 20-30 times, but nothing worked. I tried to time it with the click sound a couple times before, and it didn't work, but I thought I'd give it another try, since OP mentioned he got it to work with the stock 2GB SanDisk card, and that's all I have.
This time, I got it on the second attempt. My reflexes were a little slow, so it was probably more like a half-second after the click sound that I managed to click in the SD card. I haven't attempted to get back yet, so I don't know how repeatable it is.
One thing that may or may not be worth trying for others is that right before I got it, I uninstalled HTC sync, installed the bootloader drivers from the unrevoked site (can't post URL since I'm a noob).
Then uninstalled them (check "delete drivers" when doing so they won't auto-reinstall), reinstalled HTC sync, and finally reinstalled the bootloader drivers. I did the last reinstall because the device wasn't showing up when the phone was in the bootloader menu w/just HTC sync. It's unclear if any of this made a difference, or if I just got lucky with my timing this time.
When I was booting into recovery and pushed in the SD card, very shortly afterwards, I got a balloon in the bottom right that said it was installing the drivers (again? is that expected?). After that, rewt!

Oh lord, if I never saw another one if these threads, I could die a happy man. They're about as useful as alchemy, phrenology, perpetual motion machines, astrology, cold fusion, x-ray specs, etc etc ...
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The question begs:
If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.

adrynalyne said:
The question begs:
If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.
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Because the title is so vague that you don't know it's YARMTISWWFE (Yet Another Root Method That I'm Sure Will Work For Everybody) thread until you read it?

If you couldn't figure out the post content by this time:
I have been trying to root since
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Then some folks here might want to get tested for some learning disabilities. Don't even have to finish the first sentence to figure out what this thread was about.

To become rooted, do you have wipe your phone and sd card?

No, you definitely do not need to do that.

adrynalyne said:
The question begs:
If it bothers you so much, why the heck did you read it? Nobody makes you read these particular threads.
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I wanted to see who was pretentious enough to think that their hare-brained scheme for rooting needed a new post, why they thought their experience could possible impact developing for the Inc, or what could possibly justify tacking "for devs" on the title of their post--as if they succeeded in making a secret club of a thread by doing so.
If he/she really wanted to help devs, they might have PM'd the guys involved with Unrevoked first, or joined their IRC channel, rather than clogging up the forum with another rooting thread. Honestly, there's enough going on now to think of others' purposes here before your "eureka" moment. Too bad I had to bump this thread just to respond.

Why be so mean? The more discussion on obtaining root the better I would think. Maybe this topic was not helpful but another one someday might and if people like the rude folks bashing the OP in this thread make others afraid to post then we might never get a reproducible method.
The sooner we get a reproducible method the better, because that means more folks to test and a wider user base for ROMs. I dont think a developer would spend too much time on a ROM for a device that they do not own and feel only a handful of people would have access to.

Oozura said:
Why be so mean? The more discussion on obtaining root the better I would think. Maybe this topic was not helpful but another one someday might and if people like the rude folks bashing the OP in this thread make others afraid to post then we might never get a reproducible method.
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You call it mean, I call it strongly discouraging more speculation on a topic that already has a dozen or more threads going. As you can see by the proliferation of more advanced thread recently, most have moved on from trying to root, which common sense would tell one is caused by most having figured it out.

Maybe everyone has figured it out, maybe not. I imagine if you started a thread and asked who was still trying you would get several folks respond that they were. Nothing indicative of the entire population but just saying.
Edit: I just saw your avatar and then your use of such excellent gramar and vocabulary above. Did you make your own lingwo(sp) robot?

This thread has turned into a flame fest against the OP (since pretty much the beginning of it). Thread closed.

[GUIDE] [BRICKED] Loading Roms/CWR via SD Fails - Black Screen of Death (28/02)

As we know, the Nook Color's SD slot will always take first boot priority. I'm in a situation where even booting via SD through known methods are not working.
The purpose of this thread is to:
1) Share with others who are in this similar situation, on methods which may result in the recovery of their own devices
2) Keep this discussion healthy so one day, I will be able to restore my own bricked device which I'm still striving hard to.
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IMPORTANT: If you have a bricked device I need to emphasize on searching and reading very carefully what others have shared here in both General and in Development. This is a fundamental requirement, as with the ability to follow instructions and not panic by creating unnecessary threads. This will only make things harder to find, so thank you in advance for not doing that.
There are many useful guides out there, some of which the most helpful are:
Nook Color Restore to stock by samuelhalff
Dummies Guide to Fixing 'My Nook Won't Boot' by RileyGrant
Stock 1.1.0 Clockwork Recovery Image by brianf21
Nook 1.01 stock dd images by shad0wf0x
[RECOVERY] Monster RootPack 0.7 / Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 SD by thecubed
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Anyway, in severe bricking cases where hardware is not at fault, many of the solutions to restore the NC begins with either:
1) Booting to CWR-SD via uSD
2) Booting to a rom i.e. Nookie Froyo via uSD
3) Having ADB access, if available
Till date I am not sure why the SD-loaded programs do not work for me, and here are the symptoms:
1) Without SD inserted, the standard BN splash appears, 'Welcome to the Future of Reading', then gets stuck there till powered down. Needless to say, the 8-times reset method doesn't work.
2) With SD inserted, the 'LOADING' screen will splash, then screen blacks out with device still powered on . You will know that the device is still running as you need to hold power down for around 20 secs before you're able to power it back up again. I call this the 'Black Screen of Death'.
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To get your device up and running, try the following:
0) Do not panic. As long there's no hardware failure there will always be a solution. Look at me, thing's still a damn brick and yet here I am, still hopeful
1) Perform a search, read the useful threads created by the above members first. This thread is related only to failed SD-booting.
Once you've done that, prepare your recovery options with these in mind. The elimination process is part and parcel of problem-solving. In no particular order:
2) Sometimes, try powering on your device by connecting the USB cable from your PC or A/C source, instead of using the Power button.
3) Use only the original USB cable that came with your device.
4) Use the back USB ports of your PC, instead of the fronts as they may provide more consistent power and connection to your device. Try to avoid using USB hubs as they may not distribute the required power equally/properly.
5) Try switching to different USB ports, some may be hardware-gimped due to wear-and-tear.
6) Try to attempt the recovery on another Win, Mac or Linux computer. At least eliminate further possibilities of environmental hardware error.
7) Try charging the battery full.
8) Or, try discharging the battery completely, by leaving the device in BSOD state overnight until you get a message saying your device can't boot due to insufficient power when switched on. Once you are in this state, keep booting the device up until the screen does not appear. Then, recharge it back to full to see if the OS returns to stock (I am sceptical of this, but this was what others advised).
9) Try different SD cards. The device could be picky. Variety should be by class-type, brand, SDHC or non-SDHC. It's been discussed that faster cards perform better, as with more reknowned brands. Also, 16GB cards reportedly do not run Froyo (do read more by searching).
10) When loading anything via SD (CWR, roms), try different button combinations i.e. power + n + up, power + n, etc.
11) And/or, hold power for various timed-presses i.e. >30 / 45 / 60 seconds. Some members report CWR booting up after these periods, or even longer.
Note: funnily I tried holding power + n + up for > 60 seconds and the 'LOADING' screen just stays frozen. Still doesn't work, and I didn't get any ADB access.
12) Try formatting the card completely with native Win/Linux tools, EASEUS Partition Master or SDFormatter before each burn.
13) Try using both Win32DiskImager and WinImage, or dd-ing in Linux (search for more instructions). If you have Linux, you can check to see if the SD's /boot partition is indeed bootable or not.
14) For ADB access, try to unregister your hardware (go to Start > Run > devmgmt.msc), then unplug-replug device to have your PC detect it again. If a device with VID of 2080 shows up, that's the NC. You should know what this means, by now. If not, read more here.
15) Try different SD card readers, especially when experiencing failure on multiple computers. As opposed to multi-adapters i.e. 6-in-1s, try dedicated microSD readers like this one. Do not use those microSD-to-normalSD converters (usually packed together in the same shipping plastic as your card) just because you only have a reader that reads regular SD cards, they tend to fail a lot.
16) At your own risk, try cleaning the contact points on your SD cards (if you must, use cleaning alcohol and a cottom swap/q-tip - do not use water), to free them of dirt and invisible grime. If you have multiple SDs, try cleaning the least expensive ones first. Don't forget to leave them to dry completely before insertion into the NC. Credit to bonobomidwest, read his experience here.
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17) Use Nooter 0.2 (recommendation from thecubed):
Here's my recommendation: use the stock charger cable (the one with the light-up N in it) when you try Nooter 0.2.
If the light goes from orange to green (or something like that) that means Nooter is booted and working.
My new thought: some file in /rom is missing, which controls the backlight and lcd controller. I can't prove this, but it seems logical haha.
All you need to do is get Nooter 0.2 booted and ssh'd in and you'll be able to dd over a complete 1.0.1 backup.
rawfish: I use Ubuntu, so sorry if I'm not able to provide instructions for Windows
Type:
Code:
sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.1
Then:
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ssh [email protected]
And you should be able to follow the directions for restoring on the wiki... either that or check around on IRC, if you tell them that you've got ssh access and you just need to restore your device, they'll help you out if I'm not around..
rawfish: I typed 'dmesg' in shell to see if the NC connected as a usb-ethernet device, and it doesn't show. If it does for you, then you should have progress and should ask around in IRC.
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All these did not work for me, but hope this is useful to some. I've read testimonies from everyone that this is an unbrickable device, and I certainly hope it's true, and for a kind soul to help suggest more solutions. As I'm overseas, do you think I should call BN up to see if I can arrange to send my device back for fixing/replacement? It's been a month since purchase, and 3 weeks of failed restore attempts.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if any of these methods get you in deeper trouble. Attempt at your own risk. Credit goes to thecube aka IOMonster, and the #nookcolor channel on irc.freenode.net. Thank you to everyone who created the recovery guides too.

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You sure you just don't have crap or badly burned SD cards? Sounds pretty much what happens if you boot s really slow/junk SD or burn it badly.

khaytsus said:
You sure you just don't have crap or badly burned SD cards? Sounds pretty much what happens if you boot s really slow/junk SD or burn it badly.
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I tried on 6 different SD cards:
1. Transcend 8GB Class 6
2. Transcend 4GB Class 2
3. Wintec 16GB Class 10
4. Sandisk 4GB Class 4
5. Sandisk 2GB non-SDHC
6. Sandisk 256MB
I've burned stuffs like Autonooter and Honeycomb on these before, and they worked fine.

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I tried on 6 different SD cards:
1. Transcend 8GB Class 6
2. Transcend 4GB Class 2
3. Wintec 16GB Class 10
4. Sandisk 4GB Class 4
5. Sandisk 2GB non-SDHC
6. Sandisk 256MB
I've burned stuffs like Autonooter and Honeycomb on these before, and they worked fine.
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First of all - great job in pulling all the resources into one place (it's small consolation, but i think you've just helped a whole load of people )
Second, i apologise if I'm telling you stuff that's obvious, but in helping out on these forums often it's the LOGIC of troubleshooting rather than the particulars of the problem that are important... In other words, only vary one thing at a time, and ALWAYS swap out every piece of hardware involved at each stage... if you always rely on one piece of hardware this might be the weak link... so have you tried a different SD drive or adapter? and have you tried burning from a different computer?
Now, I'm not being insulting, because I had a virtually identical problem with my first froyo - it just wouldn't boot (as you describe) despite multiple burns, different cards, all of the standard formatting tricks etc. It wouldn't work in multiple computers - the common element being the SD/microSD adapter. It never occurred to me that such an electrically simple part could be at fault, but you bet it was - in fact i would say in my experience these things consistently fail! (I spent a day kickign myself, because we know ho unreliable they are from using them in other devices). They also all look alike so it's hard to keep track of which one you are dealing with They also fail unexpectedly, so if you used an adapter before there's no guarantee it's working now...
Sooo... Have you tried a dedicated microSD reader (rather than a simple adapter)? I now carry one with me everywhere (it doubles as the world's smallest thumb drive too)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HGFKR8
Also bear in mind that froyo appears not to work on 16gb cards (i see you tried one)
Also, from my experience with other devices these cards are very sensitive to dirt and oil on the contacts. Certainly with enough frustrated handling you can get enough finger-grease on them to have them fail. Also they seem to be much less tolerant when writing than reading. I have NO idea how you would go about cleaning out the slot in the NC (and as someone who has ruined at least one DVD drive by blowing canned air where you shouldn't I'm not going to advocate for that). I have resurrected 'dead' SD cards before by cleaning the contacts with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip (on the card's contacts) - but again do so with great care (at your own risk!!!) and with your cheapest card, and make sure it si completely dry before you put it in the NC.
I have been generally a little scared that all this plugging and unplugging of the microSD might hurt the NC, so i have done everything i can to avoid that...

I am sure you can find someone local to you willing to help fix your boot issue but I assure you, its damn near impossible to brick a nook without physical damage.

@bonobomidwest:
No offence taken at all, in fact I am very appreciative of your contribution. I forgot to add the fact that I tried on 2 different card readers, plus indeed tried to clean the slot via an air duster VERY GENTLY as a last effort resort (I would not recommend this, it may cause permanent hardware damage). Once I'm free I'll go get a new SD reader (reads uSD only) and a new uSD which I haven't tried before. I'll try cleaning the contact points too.
*Thanks - I've added more checklists to the OP
@combustiblemonkey:
Thanks for the assurance.

I convinced my friend to buy a nook, rooted it for him, and was bricked within 2 days. Here is how I fixed it
EDIT: I tried to post a link, but was unable. If you go to theunlockr(dot)com and search for how to restore nook color to stock, there is a detailed article.
This took me almost 2 days of reboots, black screens, and freezing. I would get into CWR, and it would freeze. Had to reboot, got the black screen of death. Literally, a couple hundred reboots before it said that the OS has successfully installed, and of course, it froze again. Many more reboots, and it was finally at stock. I figure getting it back to stock was enough to return it.

Dr-Rockso said:
I convinced my friend to buy a nook, rooted it for him, and was bricked within 2 days. Here is how I fixed it
EDIT: I tried to post a link, but was unable. If you go to theunlockr(dot)com and search for how to restore nook color to stock, there is a detailed article.
This took me almost 2 days of reboots, black screens, and freezing. I would get into CWR, and it would freeze. Had to reboot, got the black screen of death. Literally, a couple hundred reboots before it said that the OS has successfully installed, and of course, it froze again. Many more reboots, and it was finally at stock. I figure getting it back to stock was enough to return it.
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Thanks, this is the direct link:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/14/how-to-restore-the-nook-color-to-stock
All instructions were taken from XDA, plus no guarantee it's the most updated
Moving on, great to hear you've gotten it back to stock. Man, you've got GREAT patience, a couple hundred reboots?
1) Was the SD inserted in or not? Curious about the OS successfully installed message, which is the result of 8x unsuccessful reboots without SD inserted.
2) Could you also provide a more detailed account on what you did? Looking forward to hear - thanks.

Hi rawfish
I also have this issue and have been trying many things. My nook did boot nooter 0.2 (the light went green) but I couldn't get Win 7 or Ubuntu to connect to it. My screen never changes at all, no backlight even. Seems this may be a larger issue than most believe it to be, especially for people like us who don't live in the US.

chrysilis said:
Hi rawfish
I also have this issue and have been trying many things. My nook did boot nooter 0.2 (the light went green) but I couldn't get Win 7 or Ubuntu to connect to it. My screen never changes at all, no backlight even. Seems this may be a larger issue than most believe it to be, especially for people like us who don't live in the US.
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If you can find a friend or person in your area having the same device, you can try to see if an SD you burned work on theirs. If it works on theirs, it's possible that your SD slot is defective - but then comes the question of it being in working condition before the bricking happened, right?
I still think mine's recoverable, as with yours. Could be a bad SD or reader, or bad contacts. I'm going to try out using another reader plus purchase an el-cheapo branded SD. I'm also going to try formatting it via another PC in a linux environment and messing around with the partitions.
I understand the trouble you may have taken to get the device - and this happens. All the best mate, and do cheer up, don't give up.

rawfish said:
Thanks, this is the direct link:
All instructions were taken from XDA, plus no guarantee it's the most updated
Moving on, great to hear you've gotten it back to stock. Man, you've got GREAT patience, a couple hundred reboots?
1) Was the SD inserted in or not? Curious about the OS successfully installed message, which is the result of 8x unsuccessful reboots without SD inserted.
2) Could you also provide a more detailed account on what you did? Looking forward to hear - thanks.
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When I finally got it to work, the SD card was installed with the 1.0.1 stock OS on it, and CWR. The problem was that that (+) and (-) would only occasionally work. And if they did, it would usually freeze. I would be able to format system, but it would freeze if I tried to format data. Powered off, and I would get the black screen of death (BSoD). Once this happened, I would plug it into my computer so that I could hear the chime indicating a new device was plugged in. I found that ejecting the SD and then rebooting would sometimes help get rid of the BSoD. Then another power down, plug in the SD, and start again. Also, holding the N, +, and Power would sometimes help in launching CWR. I would usually have to hold for 60 seconds, but it would finally launch. It seemed like the nook was trying to run a process that slowing it down and causing it to freeze, but I couldn't figure out what it was. If I would wait an hour, it would boot CWR and allow me to format system and data, but then it would freeze when I would try to install the zip.
The successful install message was in CWR. It said Install From SD Card Complete, or something like that. After that, I still had to do the 8 reboots. It would load up the stock welcome screen and freeze. 8 reboots later, I got the video lady. Good enough to return it to the store.
It really was just persistence. It would usually take an hour of reboots before I was able to try to install the zip, and it probably failed on me 15+ times. The status bar would get half way, and freeze. Then I had to begin again. If it had been my nook instead of my friends, I probably would have given up. I wish I could be more specific, but unfortunately I am new to all of this. My nook rooted just fine, and fixing his is really my only experience with CWR. I just kept going until it worked.
Good luck! It is a pain in the ass, but it can happen.

rawfish said:
If you can find a friend or person in your area having the same device, you can try to see if an SD you burned work on theirs. If it works on theirs, it's possible that your SD slot is defective - but then comes the question of it being in working condition before the bricking happened, right?
I still think mine's recoverable, as with yours. Could be a bad SD or reader, or bad contacts. I'm going to try out using another reader plus purchase an el-cheapo branded SD. I'm also going to try formatting it via another PC in a linux environment and messing around with the partitions.
I understand the trouble you may have taken to get the device - and this happens. All the best mate, and do cheer up, don't give up.
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My wife has one as well so am able to test using that and the SD works fine in hers. The whole screen not turning on thing is weird though, does your screen turn on?
We bought them when on honeymoon in America so didn't have to pay a shipper or anything

Deleting the partitions manually with Gparted and using dd to burn the SDs and making sure the correct partitions are bootable doesn't seem to work. Last night I retried a lot of the previously attempted options, with no results.
It's weird to think that a working SD slot and a slew of cards will suddenly malfunction, but for now that seems like the most plausible reason why my NC can't boot anything off SD.
To think back how it all started, the device suddenly rebooted from HC preview v0.4 to stock BN 1.01 (rooted + installed CWR on eMMC) while the SD is inserted, then upon another reboot it simply stays dead, this gives me reason to believe that the internal boot partition is corrupted, and SD slot nuked hardware-wise.
Hmmm, really hoping to find someone else who has the same device, in my area.

Right now I am at the Black Screen of Death as well...
I think Barnes should refund me, but I am willing to do some tests for the good of society.

Steelfan555 said:
Right now I am at the Black Screen of Death as well...
I think Barnes should refund me, but I am willing to do some tests for the good of society.
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Sorry to hear that, and don't give up! Hope you took a look at the other threads, and this little pseudo checklist I made in the OP. Do share the outcome

Thank you Rawfish. The first option, the Dummies Guide to Fixing 'My Nook won't boot'
was what I needed to get started on the right track again. Though I'm not sure anyone wants to know how I ended up here, I'm grateful to those that put in the time and effort to find any of these solutions.
Thank you!

FroztIkon said:
Thank you Rawfish. The first option, the Dummies Guide to Fixing 'My Nook won't boot'
was what I needed to get started on the right track again. Though I'm not sure anyone wants to know how I ended up here, I'm grateful to those that put in the time and effort to find any of these solutions.
Thank you!
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Update:
Ok, so after running through it, I ended up getting stuck on the boot screen that shows N. If I powered off, it would restart and get stuck at that screen. I tried the 8 shutdowns (it installed new software), but afterwards, it was still stuck. So, I tried another method I found on the forums. I powered off holding the N button and power, which caused it to boot back up and do a factory reset. I now have a factory fresh Nook.

Okay, it's been a while since I kept this thread updated - I contacted BN and had the device sent back, apparently the SD slot failed so they sent me a new one. I'm just wondering if it's sheer concidence that it happened, as I was tinkering with Nookie Honey preview v0.4, when the hardware suddenly failed.
Oh well, I guess the NC still remains as a 99.99% unbrickable device - with the 0.01% being related to the ambiguous root cause to my case.
I now have 2 NCs (one from the RMA process, another one from the $199 eBay deal.

[Q] Xperia phone dropped in water, ideas to recover data?

Hi everyone.
A few days ago a non tech-literate friend of mine told me that he had dropped his phone in the sink (clean, cold water, about three weeks ago). He had since bought another rolleyes: shame to not even try to repair it!) but had precious data on it. I agreed to try and recover it from him as he's quite a good friend. Since I only got the phone long after the incident, it is as far as I can know perfectly dry. I have never had any dealings with Sony before (phone-wise)... I think the data should be attainable, I just don't have the knowledge yet.
Symptoms :
When plugged off, the phone just sits there with really nothing happening.
When plugged on to a power cord (France), there's a softly blinking red light on the left of the top front speaker.
When plugged to a computer, the same soft red light is flashing. (I therefore imagine it indicates charging)
What I have tried :
Holding the power button
Unplugged, for 2, 3, 5, 10, 20, 30 seconds, to no avail
Plugged, and it vibrates shortly after about 6-8 seconds or 2-3 seconds (am I turning it on and off/long press to get the power menu?)
Connecting it to a computer (Windows 7 and Arch linux):
On Arch, there's nothing. No disk/drive of any kind is detected (/dev stays unchanged...)
On windows, the first time I connected I got the pop up indicating a driver install for an "unknown device", and the install failed. Browsing this forum I learned about PC companion, which I installed. Windows then successfully installed a driver for "usb device". Windows explorer does not detect the phone as a media device of any kind and PC companion refuses to connect to the phone : when manually prompted to connect, it recognizes something is plugged, but tells me it "fails(ed) to connect to the pone/tablet. Please refer to the guide", guide of course which is worthless. (No logs or smthng? geez, windows!)
What I have not tried :
I have *no* idea on how to remove cover to access battery and so on. As the back is perfectly smooth I am afraid to break smthng if I try with a knife blade or so...
Sacrificing chicken and/or blond virgins to the blood overlords while chanting black magic
My guess is the screen is dead ( as it shows no sign whatsoever) but the phone seems to be partly working. 1337 guyz out there, ideas, help? (actually anyone is welcome of course :laugh
The main objective is only to recover data, not get it back working (would've sent it for repair otherwise!) If you need more info, I'll be happy to provide it.
G'day to yall!
(As I am currently undergoing heavy fire from my engineering study teachers, I will check this post about once a week. sorry for the answering delays...)

Phenitei said:
Hi everyone.
A few days ago a non tech-literate friend of mine told me that he had dropped his phone in the sink (clean, cold water, about three weeks ago). He had since bought another rolleyes: shame to not even try to repair it!) but had precious data on it. I agreed to try and recover it from him as he's quite a good friend. Since I only got the phone long after the incident, it is as far as I can know perfectly dry. I have never had any dealings with Sony before (phone-wise)... I think the data should be attainable, I just don't have the knowledge yet.
Symptoms :
When plugged off, the phone just sits there with really nothing happening.
When plugged on to a power cord (France), there's a softly blinking red light on the left of the top front speaker.
When plugged to a computer, the same soft red light is flashing. (I therefore imagine it indicates charging)
What I have tried :
Holding the power button
Unplugged, for 2, 3, 5, 10, 20, 30 seconds, to no avail
Plugged, and it vibrates shortly after about 6-8 seconds or 2-3 seconds (am I turning it on and off/long press to get the power menu?)
Connecting it to a computer (Windows 7 and Arch linux):
On Arch, there's nothing. No disk/drive of any kind is detected (/dev stays unchanged...)
On windows, the first time I connected I got the pop up indicating a driver install for an "unknown device", and the install failed. Browsing this forum I learned about PC companion, which I installed. Windows then successfully installed a driver for "usb device". Windows explorer does not detect the phone as a media device of any kind and PC companion refuses to connect to the phone : when manually prompted to connect, it recognizes something is plugged, but tells me it "fails(ed) to connect to the pone/tablet. Please refer to the guide", guide of course which is worthless. (No logs or smthng? geez, windows!)
What I have not tried :
I have *no* idea on how to remove cover to access battery and so on. As the back is perfectly smooth I am afraid to break smthng if I try with a knife blade or so...
Sacrificing chicken and/or blond virgins to the blood overlords while chanting black magic
My guess is the screen is dead ( as it shows no sign whatsoever) but the phone seems to be partly working. 1337 guyz out there, ideas, help? (actually anyone is welcome of course :laugh
The main objective is only to recover data, not get it back working (would've sent it for repair otherwise!) If you need more info, I'll be happy to provide it.
G'day to yall!
(As I am currently undergoing heavy fire from my engineering study teachers, I will check this post about once a week. sorry for the answering delays...)
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Not realla an idea, but maybe a little help. In the attachement you find a pdf. (Working Instructions for Assembly and Disassembly the phone). Hope, it helps a little. Good luck :fingers-crossed:

Thanks mate! Will look at it this weekend

One of the first thing you should try is to access fastboot. For this you have to hold volume down button while plugging it in to the computer. If the phone is a Xperia SP your led should be blue then (I'm not sure you have this model regarding the description you gave). If this works then we make a small step !

Right I'll try that. Looking at the pdf given by reinipic, it seems it is one, as the phone corresponds to the photo of the Sp C5303/5302/5306/M35h.
Oops my bad!! You are, good sir, perfectly right, the phone is not an SP, as all Sps seem to have the front Camera as well as three sensors on the left of the top speaker. The model I'm working on only has a camera on the right side. ...
Erm as such I'm quite into the wild as to how to guess what model it is (google image is not really being helpfull...), any tips on that?
attached are front, back, and side photographs of the phone.
I have as well tried to long press the down button while connected to a computer (windows 7). The led changed it's pattern : it blinked shortly red twice,then green! :good: The screen still stays off though (which may confirm my hypothesis that it's dead), and the computer does not react.
As always, thx for the help!

Phenitei said:
Right I'll try that. Looking at the pdf given by reinipic, it seems it is one, as the phone corresponds to the photo of the Sp C5303/5302/5306/M35h.
Oops my bad!! You are, good sir, perfectly right, the phone is not an SP, as all Sps seem to have the front Camera as well as three sensors on the left of the top speaker. The model I'm working on only has a camera on the right side. ...
Erm as such I'm quite into the wild as to how to guess what model it is (google image is not really being helpfull...), any tips on that?
attached are front, back, and side photographs of the phone.
I have as well tried to long press the down button while connected to a computer (windows 7). The led changed it's pattern : it blinked shortly red twice,then green! :good: The screen still stays off though (which may confirm my hypothesis that it's dead), and the computer does not react.
As always, thx for the help!
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:highfive: Bravo man! As pecOra said, you hae done a grat step - the phone is alive! LED blinking red then green, means, that´s ready for flashing a rom with Flashtool! The problem now is to clarify, what Xperia-model it is, after this you can seach in the right thread for a Rom to flash it on the phone with Flashtool

Cool! This has me ask two questions though :
- wouldn't flashing a ROM erase the data I'm trying to retrieve? As it's not on the sd card (whose slot is on the outside, and empty).
- I'm afraid I'm slow here, but how would flashing a ROM help retrieve the data, as the main obstacle is that the data on the internal sd card is not readable

[UPDATE] : if, while connected to a computer, the up-volume button is long pressed, then the del becomes a stable and unchanging blue!

Phenitei said:
Cool! This has me ask two questions though :
- wouldn't flashing a ROM erase the data I'm trying to retrieve? As it's not on the sd card (whose slot is on the outside, and empty).
- I'm afraid I'm slow here, but how would flashing a ROM help retrieve the data, as the main obstacle is that the data on the internal sd card is not readable
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STOP! Flashing a Rom ALWAYS deletes all data on the internal SD. In the current situation you can make again a functional phone. To readout the data from the SD is an other thing. For this experiment I am to less competent. Maybe another member is smarter than I am, sorry.

No probs! That's also my experience with my phone (wiping I mean), and is why I asked why I would want to flash a ROM. No worries, we all have different skills[emoji41] . I'll help you the day you mess up a samsung [emoji6]
Thx for trying!

Phenitei said:
No probs! That's also my experience with my phone, and is why I asked why I would want to do that. No worries, we all have different skills. I'll help you the day you mess up a samsung
Thx for trying!
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:good: hope, pecOra can help you!!! He is a great man.

Ok that's good news, it means your phone isn't totally dead. The next step is to look if there is any way to access the data partition or sd from fastboot mode (when the blue led was on, it's generally used to access kernel/recovery partitions from the computer.) I'll make some search today and look in fastboot manual to see if I find something. You should try to find something too.
If there is no way with fastboot we'll try with adb but unless your friend was some kind of developer he probably kept it deactivated.
The phone looks more like a Xperia Z or a Xperia Z1 I think. Our xsp has a big led at the bottom.
Edit :
I found another thread with a similar problem. The solution is to flash a recovery and access adb from the recovery.
forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/to-recover-data-fastboot-t1871698
The problem is that I'm pretty sure the phone must have an unlocked bootloader.
Is the phone rooted?

pec0ra said:
Ok that's good news, it means your phone isn't totally dead. The next step is to look if there is any way to access the data partition or sd from fastboot mode (when the blue led was on, it's generally used to access kernel/recovery partitions from the computer.) I'll make some search today and look in fastboot manual to see if I find something. You should try to find something too.
If there is no way with fastboot we'll try with adb but unless your friend was some kind of developer he probably kept it deactivated.
The phone looks more like a Xperia Z or a Xperia Z1 I think. Our xsp has a big led at the bottom.
Edit :
I found another thread with a similar problem. The solution is to flash a recovery and access adb from the recovery.
forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/to-recover-data-fastboot-t1871698
The problem is that I'm pretty sure the phone must have an unlocked bootloader.
Is the phone rooted?
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:good: +1

Right. I'll look into fastboot and confirm the phone model this we, and will look at the thread you dug out tomorrow (gitta get some maths and physics done first ). (Great job finding the thread by the way! I hadn't seen that one)
I'm certain the phone os neither rooted nor was usb debugging enabled, as my friend is absolutely not into tech.
As always, your help is much appreciated, thank you.

Phenitei said:
Right. I'll look into fastboot and confirm the phone model this we, and will look at the thread you dug out tomorrow (gitta get some maths and physics done first ). (Great job finding the thread by the way! I hadn't seen that one)
I'm certain the phone os neither rooted nor was usb debugging enabled, as my friend is absolutely not into tech.
As always, your help is much appreciated, thank you.
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Mmmh this is not good. The solutions use adb so you must have it enabled but that's not really a problem because if your phone boots until adb mode, it will probably boot until usb storage mode too. So if you don't have usb storage when booting, you probably won't have adb mode either.
The second solution was to use adb (or usb storage) in another environment which is much less complex and easier to flash without losing any data : the recovery. The problem is that you can only flash a recovery with fastboot when your bootloader is unlocked. The other ways to flash it use adb and as we've seen we don't have it.
I'm pretty sure you can't access any partition from fastboot if your bootloader is unlocked because otherwise it would open easy exploits to gain root without losing your warranty unlocking your BL.
Now what you still have available is flashtool. This is the (copy of the, with more possibilities) official way to flash firmwares. You use it from your computer when your phone is in the mode with the green light. The problem is that with this you can only flash official firmwares. They might still repair your phone depending on the problem but you must be careful not to erase the data. If you want to try this I can help you in the procedure (you can even pm me en français if you want)
By the way, are you trying to access data like app data/ contacts / messages or data of the external storage?

I personally agree the solution of pec0ra to flash a stockrom with the flashtool, without erasing date. It should be the only successful procedure. Good luck man!
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reinipic said:
I personally agree the solution of pec0ra to flash a stockrom with the flashtool, without erasing date. It should be the only successful procedure. Good luck man!
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btw. when you are opening the flashtool and connect the phone with the pc, than you can see in the flashtool, which Xperia Model it really is, then you can search for the right stockrom and ... buuuuuum :laugh:

Right thanks a lot! I'll take the time to document my self a bit on all that and then I'll be happy to accept your proposal. Merci!

put it in a box of rice 4 days without touching.... you will see the results.

Kmiloxdxd, thanks for your proposal, I'll try! But as I said in the question, I got the phone at least a week after it fell into water, maybe more (up to 3 max) As such, I'm quite sure it's too late for that kind if trick... (which did save a few phones and watches of my own ^^)

You have 2 options..the first one is to reflash stock rom via flashtool without wiping data and the other one which requires a recovery, you can move this zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108) to your sd and move files from internal to external memory.

**Help needed with no charge and the lacklustre help not given via MAZE(Alpha 4gig)**

Hi guys, been a bit out of the loop (hospital) but bought an Alpha around sep last year...within 2 months i used a official Maze update (OTA) and it then no longer charges...got onto them via facebook (as there were no official threads for this phone back then) and they sent me this to reflash it...
http://www.mazemobile.com/download-center
The ROM used to be there, but they have the ****ing cheek to say "people tried to flash and blamed MAZE" now it was MAZE's update in the first place that buggered my phone.:silly:..i still have the original ROM...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8XLZxEJR8albndMcXJhWGtlVDQ
^not sure if that works for you, but basically it was..
:A really crap tutorial
:Maze Alpha flash tool.zip
:Maze_Alpha_V05_20170816
I've followed everything by the letter to no avail???
Now MAZE are bloody useless, can i count on one of you clever chaps to help me out?
P.s it's the 4 gig model.
Many thanks lads...

Any joy?
Is there anybody on here that had the same problem? You guys are usually really helpful, as i'm getting no rsponse from MAZE i thought i'd try where the true tech heads reside (i've received help before on my Xioami phones and smartwatches before) or is it that not many people have bothered with this phone? please help a guy out...much appreciated.

seedaripper said:
Is there anybody on here that had the same problem? You guys are usually really helpful, as i'm getting no rsponse from MAZE i thought i'd try where the true tech heads reside (i've received help before on my Xioami phones and smartwatches before) or is it that not many people have bothered with this phone? please help a guy out...much appreciated.
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Well the thing is that you need to provide a bit more info. 'I've followed everything by the letter to no avail???' But you are not telling what works or not or what step you are stuck in the manual.
A lot of things come to my mind.
- is it still booting
- did you try another cable - charger
- ...
If it still boots and works a bit can you connect it to a pc and access for example the internal memory etc?
Some more info would be of help to get response... although I find the Maze Alpha part of the forum a lot of read and very little help (a bit of ranting may wake up people)

Cheers...someone lives!
Thanks for responding lukesan (much appreciated)
I'm using the original charger, it was working fine until i got the OTA so i doubt that's the problem.
No it doesn't boot (there is just enough charge to get to recovery mode,fastboot mode,normal boot)
I followed the manual/flash/tool etc (does the google drive doc show up for you as posted above?) everything seemed to go fine...but the problem still persists, it just wont charge?
Maybe i need a new ROM (or it could be the tool MAZE sent me) they are ****ing useless and i've started a bit of a social media campaign against them
(at first they were keeping in touch, but now they just ignore me completely on facebook) it pisses me off no end:crying:
P.s it does connect to my PC (sometimes), where should i dig around?
lukesan said:
Well the thing is that you need to provide a bit more info. 'I've followed everything by the letter to no avail???' But you are not telling what works or not or what step you are stuck in the manual.
A lot of things come to my mind.
- is it still booting
- did you try another cable - charger
- ...
If it still boots and works a bit can you connect it to a pc and access for example the internal memory etc?
Some more info would be of help to get response... although I find the Maze Alpha part of the forum a lot of read and very little help (a bit of ranting may wake up people)
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seedaripper said:
Thanks for responding lukesan (much appreciated)
I'm using the original charger, it was working fine until i got the OTA so i doubt that's the problem.
No it doesn't boot (there is just enough charge to get to recovery mode,fastboot mode,normal boot)
I followed the manual/flash/tool etc (does the google drive doc show up for you as posted above?) everything seemed to go fine...but the problem still persists, it just wont charge?
Maybe i need a new ROM (or it could be the tool MAZE sent me) they are ****ing useless and i've started a bit of a social media campaign against them
(at first they were keeping in touch, but now they just ignore me completely on facebook) it pisses me off no end:crying:
P.s it does connect to my PC (sometimes), where should i dig around?
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Just checked, and yes it is the correct manual. But lets say that even me, a veteran (with no patience), had issues with it. It is 100% correct but ... well see later on where you get.
Ok, first couple of things come up in my mind. Could still be the cable, the charger or even the the charging port that is broken. Been in the electronics business since the late 80's and these things can go wrong or broken any minute even thinking that a firmware update caused it.
Charger you can easily check if you just connect it to another charger or a pc usb port. A PC usb port will only deliver (mostly) max 400mA to 500mA .. meaning it will charge, if it still does, extremely slow. So I would keep it connected to a pc all day long or night before trying to switch it on. Trying to switch it on during charging and batt at low level will probably not work. You could try to power on after 2 or 3 hours or so and if it powers on then I would power it off again to get at least some juice in it to play around.
Cable, I would go fetch another one, they will come in handy in the future too. If it doesn't fit properly because the port is to deep in the Alpha then just take a knife and carefully cut a very small piece of the plastic, just 1mm is enough. I've done this on the 2 extra cables I have here and it works perfectly and I don't even see it aesthetically so no harm done on mine.
Now if that still doesn't work we can try the next step. But be very careful to know that that will delete all data, pictures, etc off of the phone. Because of all my toying with this phone I stuck an sd-card in it and doing a backup before I play with it again.
The manual states that you have to press the volume up button.. Well you can already test that without hurting anything as long you don't press anything on the flashtool. So only volume up and then insert the usb cable to a pc. Now the mistake I made in the beginning was to also push the power button.
So on the pc open up your device manager. If you do volume up (not in any of the other modes like fastboot etc, so from a standpoint that the phone is completely off) hold it for 2 or 3 sec and plug it into the PC. Now you should hear the typical usb connection sound and see something happening like an extra device in the manager. Probably you do not have the correct drivers installed for starters. Look for mtk drivers for your OS. Be careful, a lot of crap and virus links out there.
Now another issue that I fell for the first time is that you have to connect it twice like that to the pc to actually flash. First time ... press the 'scan' and let it do it (think the top field will become green) and then disconnect the phone and do the same volume up and connect and then it will allow you to flash.
But first check what is happening before we have to flash it.
Btw I know about their attitude. Well, as a Chinese company they must understand that by this attitude they will not going to sell any products anymore. I only bought mine because it was a special deal and I wanted to test an MTK chipset. They never replied to me why there is no real fast charge on it etc.
I also very very highly recommend you to invest, well for the price of a sandwich, to buy a usb charging doctor which will allow you to see the voltage and current. You don't need to be a doctor to us it and at least you see something instead of having to guess. Also while you are at it buy good quality chargers and a couple of cables. They will always come in handy and take some of the guesswork away if needed.

Top lad.
Again many thanks luksan (hefty bit of typing you did there mate )
I very much doubt it's the charger (i was extremely careful everytime with insertion) or port for that matter...this is the only USB-C i have (everything else is old school micro USB) and i resent forking out more money (the original trader Cafago said to send it back tracked at my own cost...£60!!!)
i'd like to try and fix the bastard and then sell it, never to return
Again, all these probs literally appeared after i did the OTA (i doubt it was coincidence)
i do like your advice on the re-doing the flash twice, so i may give that a go...bloody nora, what a pain in the arse!
Thanks for being a voice in the void pal...
See
lukesan said:
Just checked, and yes it is the correct manual. But lets say that even me, a veteran (with no patience), had issues with it. It is 100% correct but ... well see later on where you get.
Ok, first couple of things come up in my mind. Could still be the cable, the charger or even the the charging port that is broken. Been in the electronics business since the late 80's and these things can go wrong or broken any minute even thinking that a firmware update caused it.
So on the pc open up your device manager. If you do volume up (not in any of the other modes like fastboot etc, so from a standpoint that the phone is completely off) hold it for 2 or 3 sec and plug it into the PC. Now you should hear the typical usb connection sound and see something happening like an extra device in the manager. Probably you do not have the correct drivers installed for starters. Look for mtk drivers for your OS. Be careful, a lot of crap and virus links out there.
Now another issue that I fell for the first time is that you have to connect it twice like that to the pc to actually flash. First time ... press the 'scan' and let it do it (think the top field will become green) and then disconnect the phone and do the same volume up and connect and then it will allow you to flash.
But first check what is happening before we have to flash it.
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seedaripper said:
Again many thanks luksan (hefty bit of typing you did there mate )
I very much doubt it's the charger (i was extremely careful everytime with insertion) or port for that matter...this is the only USB-C i have (everything else is old school micro USB) and i resent forking out more money (the original trader Cafago said to send it back tracked at my own cost...£60!!!)
i'd like to try and fix the bastard and then sell it, never to return
Again, all these probs literally appeared after i did the OTA (i doubt it was coincidence)
i do like your advice on the re-doing the flash twice, so i may give that a go...bloody nora, what a pain in the arse!
Thanks for being a voice in the void pal...
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Well don't flash it twice. You have to put it in that mode twice to start it to complete the procedure. I do not believe in the wipe it 3 times to be sure, turn around and jump to make it better or faster. Loads of voodoo that is not scientifically proven around. It's all about a 0 and a 1, there is nothing in between that.
But .£60 to send that charger, LOL.
A month ago I bought an Aukey charger that included a USB-C cable for like .£12 including shipping to Belgium. (well just followed the rain and snow and landed here)
Let us know what happens next.

Any update on what you did?

GAH!
Yes, i've just tried everything again...nothing seems to work? when i actually start the tool i get a number of errors (including scatter?) then the tool boots, i then go through the broken english bollocks of the 'guide' again, do everything and it still doesn't work?? listen man, could you do me a massive favour...just outline the steps (bullet point wise) on what to do? no chatting about the chinese or voodoo
just nice clear as day steps, because as it stands i'm going to have to pay £70 just to send this piece of **** back (and probably wont get a full refund)
If you could do that (and i mean laymans terms here) i'd be forever grateful...
Cheers bud.:good::good:
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Any update on what you did?
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seedaripper said:
Yes, i've just tried everything again...nothing seems to work? when i actually start the tool i get a number of errors (including scatter?) then the tool boots, i then go through the broken english bollocks of the 'guide' again, do everything and it still doesn't work?? listen man, could you do me a massive favour...just outline the steps (bullet point wise) on what to do? no chatting about the chinese or voodoo
just nice clear as day steps, because as it stands i'm going to have to pay £70 just to send this piece of **** back (and probably wont get a full refund)
If you could do that (and i mean laymans terms here) i'd be forever grateful...
Cheers bud.:good::good:
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But what about the drivers etc.... What shows up?

ROM?
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Any update on what you did?
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Perhaps it's the ROM? any chance you could give me the latest version? (or a link) i keep getting error in the light green field (FAIL) on the Tool?
I'm not sure if it's the tool or the bloody ROM?
As usual not a sodding dicky bird from MAZE (emails,twitter facebook etc) what a sh!tty company...

Nothing shows up...i think the first time i tried to plug it into the PC it ran a scan,(i don't think it found the drivers, as it doesnt show up on my computer :running win 7) from there on in, nothing? it also makes the mandatory PC sound bleep when plugged in, then about a second later i get the discharge bleep? (not sure if this is lack of charge) if i had a frigging phone i'd post screenshots! damned if i do, damned if i don't!
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seedaripper said:
Nothing shows up...i think the first time i tried to plug it into the PC it ran a scan,(i don't think it found the drivers, as it doesnt show up on my computer :running win 7) from there on in, nothing? it also makes the mandatory PC sound bleep when plugged in, then about a second later i get the discharge bleep? (not sure if this is lack of charge) if i had a frigging phone i'd post screenshots! damned if i do, damned if i don't!
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Well if it hasn't gotten the correct drivers it will never ever be able to flash. It's like trying to use your house keys to start your car.
I see all kinds of stuff happening if you keep the device manager open. Open up the 'ports' (com & lpt) section. Now press the 'volume up' key for a second or 2 and then connect it to a usb port while holding the key.. release it like a second later when it is connected to the port. Now you should see some stuff happening. Just did it on my win10 machine but should be pretty similar on a win7. One of them says first 'mtk usb' and then 'preloader usb vcom' . If these don't show up then look no further for now.

seedaripper said:
Perhaps it's the ROM? any chance you could give me the latest version? (or a link) i keep getting error in the light green field (FAIL) on the Tool?
I'm not sure if it's the tool or the bloody ROM?
As usual not a sodding dicky bird from MAZE (emails,twitter facebook etc) what a sh!tty company...
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Have you tried my backup here ?
Flash TWRP using fastboot method and then boot into TWRP and do a restore with the backup I provide for Maze Alpha 4/64

dreambo said:
Have you tried my backup here ?
Flash TWRP using fastboot method and then boot into TWRP and do a restore with the backup I provide for Maze Alpha 4/64
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His device doesn't charge and his battery is flat so I guess his by the time he can flash the device dies anyway.

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lukesan said:
Well if it hasn't gotten the correct drivers it will never ever be able to flash. It's like trying to use your house keys to start your car.
I see all kinds of stuff happening if you keep the device manager open. Open up the 'ports' (com & lpt) section. Now press the 'volume up' key for a second or 2 and then connect it to a usb port while holding the key.. release it like a second later when it is connected to the port. Now you should see some stuff happening. Just did it on my win10 machine but should be pretty similar on a win7. One of them says first 'mtk usb' and then 'preloader usb vcom' . If these don't show up then look no further for now.
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Ok, did that for a split second 'media TEK preloader USB VCOM (android) (COM4)' flashes up, i managed to click on it quickly and got to mediatek properties...then went to update driver (it searched the net and found it) all this time after the original insertion, literally a second after it just disconnects? (and it doesn't show up in my computer) i get this as device status.....
Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45)
To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer.
I plug it back in, it says normal, then a second later the above message? any ideas?

lukesan said:
His device doesn't charge and his battery is flat so I guess his by the time he can flash the device dies anyway.
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Yep, when i try to power on i have a split second of the MAZE logo, then back to death...i Can leave it charging and i get the wobble liquid battery graphic, but it never goes above 0%, as explained this only happened after a firmware update (#dreambo)

Can't get my head round multi quote?
dreambo said:
Have you tried my backup here ?
Flash TWRP using fastboot method and then boot into TWRP and do a restore with the backup I provide for Maze Alpha 4/64
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Yep, when i try to power on i have a split second of the MAZE logo, then back to death...i Can leave it charging and i get the wobble liquid battery graphic, but it never goes above 0%, as explained this only happened after a firmware update (#dreambo)

seedaripper said:
Ok, did that for a split second 'media TEK preloader USB VCOM (android) (COM4)' flashes up, i managed to click on it quickly and got to mediatek properties...then went to update driver (it searched the net and found it) all this time after the original insertion, literally a second after it just disconnects? (and it doesn't show up in my computer) i get this as device status.....
Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45)
To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer.
I plug it back in, it says normal, then a second later the above message? any ideas?
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Mmm, if you see the preloader thing then I guess that is ok. ... it is no longer an 'unknown device' which sounds fine to me. Let me quickly test on my Maze for a sec. (will edit this post).
It is normal that it disconnects. My guess is that it tries to setup comms between device and something on the pc where it can talk to. If there is no communication then it just powers down again. The display etc will all stay off since it directly does the comms to the cpu and the ram. Sort of write only state. So it is a very low level form of programming. Can be scary for people because you see nothing happening on the phone during that process.
Ok just tested again.. Can you do step 1 to 5 in the manual without an error? (to be sure I would right-click on the exe and run it as administrator to start that program)
Till that step 5 no connection to the Alpha is needed. In step 5 if you have pressed 'scan' it should say something like resetting comm ports and only the 'stop all' should be clickable.
If we are that far then I guess we are a step further.
Give that a try and then we'll see for the next step.

lukesan said:
Mmm, if you see the preloader thing then I guess that is ok. ... it is no longer an 'unknown device' which sounds fine to me. Let me quickly test on my Maze for a sec. (will edit this post).
It is normal that it disconnects. My guess is that it tries to setup comms between device and something on the pc where it can talk to. If there is no communication then it just powers down again. The display etc will all stay off since it directly does the comms to the cpu and the ram. Sort of write only state. So it is a very low level form of programming. Can be scary for people because you see nothing happening on the phone during that process.
Ok just tested again.. Can you do step 1 to 5 in the manual without an error? (to be sure I would right-click on the exe and run it as administrator to start that program)
Till that step 5 no connection to the Alpha is needed. In step 5 if you have pressed 'scan' it should say something like resetting comm ports and only the 'stop all' should be clickable.
If we are that far then I guess we are a step further.
Give that a try and then we'll see for the next step.
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Pics ...hopefully...