What's wrong with today's industry? - LG Optimus 2x

Optimus 2x was announced on 16-th dec 2010 and now in mar 2011 is NOT AVAILABLE!!!
Same is true for the rest - Atrix, Samsung G2...
Paper anouncments, with Mont's of NO availability???

2x is already available in s korea.
atrix was announced at ces and is already available in the us.
sgs2 was just announced 2-3 weeks ago at mwc. Recent rumors say it might be available march-april.
So i dont know what youre talking about.

I am talking about - announce and availability. Take for example Videocards - Nvidia announcing 580 (for example) and it is available in a week.
Optimus is available in Korea - great, but i am living in EU
Never mind, obviously i should stop reading announcements other than from stores

pesho00 said:
Optimus 2x was announced on 16-th dec 2010 and now in mar 2011 is NOT AVAILABLE!!!
Same is true for the rest - Atrix, Samsung G2...
Paper anouncments, with Mont's of NO availability???
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Precisely my thoughts. I'm getting jealous of Apple users who get their device a week after announcement. It is extremely annoying when Samsung announces a phone like the Infuse two months ago and doesn't speak a word of it since, with no release date in sight.

Just wait to be spoon fed information from local sources, easy as pie

is release in Korean since 2 month...

The LG Optimus 2X is available here in Holland:
http://www.belcompany.nl/Selecteren/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=p178031_1

thats called hyping
And indeed its available now
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I am happy for those of You having it available in their regions. Unfortunately here earliest dated quoted is 21-th of march and i am not sure it will be met
Look at apple (i don like their product, but should admit their trend setting abilities) - announce on 2-nd mar - availability on 11-th!

I know it's not fun having to wait, but I would rather have to wait a few months for a phone instead of buying a current generation phone a month before the next generation is released. Knowing which phones will be released in the near and far future makes it much easier to decide when to buy a new phone. The improvement they should make is make the release dates clearer. I still don't know when the Galaxy S2 or 2X will finally be released.

I am in Sales for years (not mobile phones). And i know that premature (paper) announcements are KILLING Sales! Now Everybody waiting 2 core phones (enthusiast at least ) and i am pretty positive sales of High end today devices suffer!
This is why i rose this topic -
1. They annoy people of boredom waiting
2. They slow todays phones sales (losing money???)
What's the thinking????

There's something to be said for building hype. And besides, in this day and age, with FCC and all kinds of other internet leaks being 100% inevitable, you might as well announce your product in advance as everyone is going to know about it anyway.

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Microsoft Confirms 1.5M WP7 Sold in the first 6 Weeks

This is really good news for Microsoft and for WP7. In the article they made mention of Apple's IPhone4 sales of 1.7M in 3days. I don't believe the comparison is justified considering people know what the Iphone was before it launched.
I believe WP7 will do very in 2011 considering over 18000 developers have signed on to build apps for this new platform.
So we have 4200 Apps in 2months and counting on WP Marketplace. Android does not even boast of these numbers when it first launched. It took Google's Android OS about 7-8months to reach those numbers.
See article >>> http://www.slashgear.com/over-1-5m-windows-phone-7-sales-in-first-6-weeks-confirms-microsoft-21120510/
I read it as manufacturers' sales to retailers.
That means you can sell 1.5 million phones but they might all be sitting on shelves in shops and store rooms.
Manufacturer sells to a retailer, I believe that's a sale. It doesnt matter when the phone gets to an end consumer. A sale is a sale.
I like the optimism but these figures don't show traction.
I'm sure that will come provided we get the fabled updates early next year.
digime said:
I like the optimism but these figures don't show traction.
I'm sure that will come provided we get the fabled updates early next year.
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In addition, need I remind you that we are claiming 104apps daily, but this is certain to grow as the months go by. Currently Andriod boasts about 300 daily while Apple boasts about 1000. But this all happens with time.
Like what you said, the updates will give it a boost as well as Verizon and Sprint announced to be involved with the phone as well this coming January to March.
I am just optimistic and I want to see a stronger competition.

Release Date

Any info on a release date?
Luke
Second Quarter of 2011 is the official release period. Any other release date(s) other than from Motorola or Verizon Wireless are just rumors and speculations.
2010??
I know ya ment 2011. My contract is up around Oct.
Luke
Sorry for the typo. I have corrected the year.
Thanks
According to Black Man X, the release is after Passover, which this year is April 19-25.
blackmanx.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/for-the-android-heads-a-wee-bit-of-poem/
This one was posted today:
When Beer flows in the color of envy and the rainbows are all but empty and you bask in the Thunder so bold…
But if it’s another device you seek to reach your Peak, then you may yet have several weeks.
For in the LiTE a new device shall shine, and perhaps that is fine if dual cores you don’t mind…
For Stevie Austin moves like a blur, Unless it stock style you prefer…
But its calmness we shall seek,
And shy away from the Hype-beast
One of the popular rumored release date is April 21st.
Update on Release Dates
Came across this news leak that just hit about an hour or so ago. Not sure about the reliability but Phandroid has been pretty good with news in the past. Thoughts?
www [dot] gizmocrunch [dot] com/mobile/6167-verizon-release-motorola-droid-bionic-x2-incredible-galaxy
I have called Wireless Advocates, 1-888-369-5931 (Costco's Wireless partner). Got the contact information from mynassda on the Droid forum.
Their computer shows that the Bionic will be in Costco stores on May 12th.
http://www.wirelessadvocates.com/_aboutus/aboutus.htm
"Wireless Advocates, LLC. is the exclusive third-party provider of wireless and related products and services in Costco warehouses nationwide. Operating more than 400 stores between Alaska and Puerto Rico, we leverage our experience to create a preferred destination for products people want."
This does confirm the latest leak of a May date.
June 9th is the leaked date. Same day has iphone 5.
Used my fascinating voodoo powers
The "leaked date" of June 9th is clearly an April fools prank. Read the leaked document - iPhone 5 options include 16 or 32 geebez, the bottom of the document recommends CSRs fast track sales for customers by stereotyping them, and characteristics to look for include tightness of their clothes, size of their european shoulder bag, thickness of glass rims, and continued insistence on having a phone with a white bag.
document image available at: farm6 (dot) static (dot) flickr (dot) com/5103/5581093902_79f9d45885.jpg
My contract ends around April 25th. Hopefully its out or coming out by then. i'm excited!
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The "leaked date" of June 9th is clearly an April fools prank. Read the leaked document - iPhone 5 options include 16 or 32 geebez, the bottom of the document recommends CSRs fast track sales for customers by stereotyping them, and characteristics to look for include tightness of their clothes, size of their european shoulder bag, thickness of glass rims, and continued insistence on having a phone with a white bag.
document image available at: farm6 (dot) static (dot) flickr (dot) com/5103/5581093902_79f9d45885.jpg
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I dont have the link, but do a google on upcoming phones for verizon. The first link that pops up mentions that date. These guys àre a credible source and have been for awhile.
Used my fascinating voodoo powers
Is that story about it being on Amazon Wireless for a few hours for $149 true? Will that be the price with new service / 2yr contact?
It's pissing me off, I want a new phone but if I get the Thundderbolt for $199 now and the Bionic comes out in June for $149, or $200, or even $250... I will be really pissed!!!
my upgrade has been available since Nov 2010...but i've been waiting for this phone...i will conintue to wait...
my fascinate will hold me up till then...
Some bad rumors floating around the net
There are rumors that started yesterday stating the Bionic may be cancelled. Even BlackmanX does not know the current state of things.
Quote from Android Central from BlackmanX
http://forum.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-bionic/53609-release-date-22.html
Long day is over... I think I understand where this cancelled news is coming from. still cant believe that verizon would be so... misguided, but alot lately has shocked me. I have to confirm with some moto people and some folks on my side.
If so.. guess some folks get collector items to go with their Merge devices... lol
will update accordingly.
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Panda, I speak all os.. I know a lil bit bout how this Cdma/LTE stuff works too...
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Latest from BMX suggests the cancellation be be true;
http://blackmanx.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/stevie-austin-where-are-you-or-a-bionic-by-any-other-name/
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New information from The Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110419-711034.html#articleTabs=article
NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Motorola Mobility Holdings Inc. (MMI) said that the Droid Bionic, a 4G smartphone, will launch with Verizon Wireless in the summer.
Motorola pushed back the timing of the launch to incorporate new features into ...
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Hopefully, this is a retooled release of the Targa as the Bionic.
I would have expected MMI to drop after the announcement hit the news today. Oddly enough the stock came back up for a positive close for the day.
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Delayed-as-iPhone-5-Looms-229162/
No cancelled but delayed.

which country / city start selling offical LG 4x (not include import goods)

not much country sell this devices?
Denmark got it in their shops here
I ordered a black one yesterday evening.
I am expecting it within 2 hours.
Netherlands
€499
I was waiting for the Padfone (just the phone). (Awfull long wait )
Seems they are probably not going to release it at all here, combos included.
Thailand since end of June.
Not interested in waiting for the F180? Should be out in 2 months.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Not interested in waiting for the F180? Should be out in 2 months.
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and if you wait a little longer you get the X380 with 2 quad core tegra4 cpu's. and just a little longer and you get a device you built into your body.
waiting is forever, living is now.
Dexter_nlb said:
and if you wait a little longer you get the X380 with 2 quad core tegra4 cpu's. and just a little longer and you get a device you built into your body.
waiting is forever, living is now.
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Dexter you're the best
Dexter_nlb said:
and if you wait a little longer you get the X380 with 2 quad core tegra4 cpu's. and just a little longer and you get a device you built into your body.
waiting is forever, living is now.
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I get your point, really, but the F180 will be announced and maybe out in the market in 2 months or less. The O4X is not even available everywhere yet. Tegra 4 hasn't even been rumored on a device yet, so most likely it will take another year or so to be announced, and a few more months to be released.
2 months isn't that long of a wait and the gap of release dates between the O4X and F180 isn't quite substantial.
Norway sell this phone, and have done it for a while...
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Sharpshooterrr said:
I get your point, really, but the F180 will be announced and maybe out in the market in 2 months or less. The O4X is not even available everywhere yet. Tegra 4 hasn't even been rumored on a device yet, so most likely it will take another year or so to be announced, and a few more months to be released.
2 months isn't that long of a wait and the gap of release dates between the O4X and F180 isn't quite substantial.
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i agree if we talk 2 months time, but again, you refer to o4x and facts on its release. as previously said, if the o4x takes so long to be distributed around europe and asia, how long would it take for new model to get around although some specs might sound better.
its not always worth the wait. If it happens to get to your country in 2 months time, sell the o4x if the new model is that nice.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I get your point, really, but the F180 will be announced and maybe out in the market in 2 months or less. The O4X is not even available everywhere yet. Tegra 4 hasn't even been rumored on a device yet, so most likely it will take another year or so to be announced, and a few more months to be released.
2 months isn't that long of a wait and the gap of release dates between the O4X and F180 isn't quite substantial.
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What you said about the Tegra 4 applies to the F180, it might be announced in 2 months but i doubt it will be released this year, probably it will be released in the beginning of 2013 (If the world doesn't end in 2012 ).
In Poland You can choose between 39 shops sorted from cheapest to most expensive offer in price comparison site. http://www.ceneo.pl/17003309
english version http://translate.google.pl/translat...ayout=2&eotf=1&u=http://www.ceneo.pl/17003309
Price ~460 Euro
You can find it in Romania too in a few online shops for bout 480Euros.
Vodafone will sell it officially at the end of the month
Hong Kong since 13July, approx. USD562 with extra battery, 2 NFC tags.
Russia bought a week ago key.ru

Launch date moved up!

Two websites are reporting the launch date and availability have been moved up from Oct 17th the Sept 26th! I highly doubt I'll have ours in hand by this Friday, but a gut can dream, can't he?
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-release-accelerate-iphone-529198/
Has anyone seen an official announcement from Samsung about this new launch date?
That said for south korea
Reading comprehension
Fail
I've actually for three website reports of this now, two mentioning Korea, and one mentioning India, with no confirmation of an accelerated us date yet, however they are supposedly trying to contact Samsung for clarification.
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That said for south korea
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Yeah? I couldn't care if South Korea gets product today - doesn't help me in Canada. ?
Doesn't help me either, but my point of posting was to find out if everyone was getting a more recent launch date, and if anyone had gotten further information. If India is also being moved up, other countries could be moved up as well.
We are seeing a very low key launch here right now. We were actually the first people to preorder yesterday, even though they have been available for preorders since Friday. The only ads we've also seen are the snarky apple comparison ads, which don't really make Samsung look that great, IMHO.
Looks like Samsung have fail. Is this their first time?
This will be my first Samsung phone.
i wanna get mine early. come on samsung announce it for the us early!
Lol so I read the article on gsmarena... Says Samsung moved the launch date up because "The positive reaction from consumers to those two Apple devices prompted us to launch the Note 4 earlier than previously scheduled. Samsung will be aggressive in promoting the Note 4 as it's true that we are being challenged and pressured amid a difficult situation,"
Really Samsung? How could they be so blind? Apple is androids biggest competitor... So apple releases a phablet and Samsung thinks they are going to release the note 4 almost a month later and not lose market share?
With how little of an upgrade the note4 compared to the note3 I know a few that bought the 6+ to just test the waters. With such a small upgrade they should have had this out on launch day to get as many sales as possible.
I have given up thinking Samsung has a strategy and just realized they are not familiar with consumerism... Especially western consumerism. They need to quit making lame ads about Apple and start copying apples marketing strategies while producing top of the line phones.
ATT website states 10-17 .. i have already ordered .. pre-order for ATT was 19th sept.
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What I seriously don't get, is on one hand, they say preorders are sold out.. and then on the pther hand, they say they are moving up the launch date to sell more phones.
How do you sell more phones if you are sold out, and if you wanted to sell 15 million of them, why don't you have 15 million to sell?
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What I seriously don't get, is on one hand, they say preorders are sold out.. and then on the pther hand, they say they are moving up the launch date to sell more phones.
How do you sell more phones if you are sold out, and if you wanted to sell 15 million of them, why don't you have 15 million to sell?
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Marketing!
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Yeah? I couldn't care if South Korea gets product today - doesn't help me in Canada. ?
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Add a fellow Canadian I just want "a" release date. I'm banking on getting it the same time the U.S. does.
The articles clearly state that Samsung is focusing on markets where the iPhone has not released yet.
Another buzz killer is the already advertised pre-order rebate. Ends 10/16.
That does not mean western places other than the u.s will not have a slight chance
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The articles clearly state that Samsung is focusing on markets where the iPhone has not released yet.
Another buzz killer is the already advertised pre-order rebate. Ends 10/16.
That does not mean western places other than the u.s will not have a slight chance
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I would assume even just releasing it to markets the iPhone hasn't reached yet are fairly small. I doubt apple would target small markets over large. So I still stand with another poorly handled launch.
They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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South Korea - from 26 september (in showroom has already)
India - in first days october
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Add a fellow Canadian I just want "a" release date. I'm banking on getting it the same time the U.S. does.
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i know right?? we're always left out...i pre-ordered my note 4 like 5 days after it was announced on rogers, i'm #4 in line. I was expecting a release date but got squat. pretty much the entire world knows their release date, except us
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They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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When and where? Do you have a source?

Official or rumored NDA lift date (reviews and so on)

Hi, does anyone know when does the NDA ends? will we see reviews tomorrow/today assuming NDA ends in USA when the pre orders starts?
The only rumored date I know of is November 3rd.
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The only rumored date I know of is November 3rd.
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It will be the 3rd because that's when the nexus 9 is released so lollipop still be finalized. Also expect a lot of app updates.
Thanks guys, i hope that's the case, i'm so tired and frustrated of this miserable media coverage, Google are terrible at it.
It has to be because the nexus 9 will ship out and it will likely have an OTA to download upon setup . Google can't keep the NDA effective after the ship date unless they plan on changing the N6's software more than what will be on the N9 which again isn't likely.
Yeah I would really like a still solid review if only to know what the battery life is like before spending 700.00.. Guess I will just have to take a leap of faith and deal with the return process if battery life is not on point. My only other concern is the audio quality, but that extensive of review probably wouldn't come until much later from someone like What-HiFi. Either way, Still can't wait to find out! Happy Nexus Day Peeps!
12th
It's the 12th. You'll see the reviews drop that day. If you watch the Droid-Life episode this week, Kellen strongly hinted that's the date and as he has a review unit in hand I'm going with that
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The Nov 12 date was published
arcanexvi said:
It's the 12th. You'll see the reviews drop that day. If you watch the Droid-Life episode this week, Kellen strongly hinted that's the date and as he has a review unit in hand I'm going with that
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/ made it clear-Nov 12:
My Nexus 6 review unit arrived yesterday and after a day of testing, I can say that it compares well against the iPhone 6 Plus. Google isn’t allowing reviewers to publish full-scale reviews until November 12th, but is permitting “first impressions.”..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56518302&postcount=65

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